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  • cbrwn425cbrwn425 Members Posts: 344 ✭✭
    After some decent outings lately, yesterday was very disappointing and somewhat expected. I get why Fellaini was in there but the lack of mobility in the midfield between him and Matic was a killer and our defense really seemed to struggle. City really put on a clinic and showed how far behind we are falling tactically.
  • scruffynickscruffynick Members Posts: 1,467 ✭✭
    cbrwn425 wrote:


    After some decent outings lately, yesterday was very disappointing and somewhat expected. I get why Fellaini was in there but the lack of mobility in the midfield between him and Matic was a killer and our defense really seemed to struggle. City really put on a clinic and showed how far behind we are falling tactically.


    Far behind in most things to be fair.... Except support, City will never ever be on uniteds level. Could have been messy, 3-1 seems like a result
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    Yeah you never know with City. Can get ugly quickly.
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  • Texas1Texas1 Posts: 309 ✭✭
    Arise Sir Kenny



    He stood with a city on his shoulders that nearly broke him. Not a more deserving man on the planet.



    Sir Kenny Dalglish receives knighthood for heroics on and off the field



    The Scot has been recognised for services to football and his efforts in supporting the families of Hillsborough victims





    The Scot has been recognised for services to football and his efforts in supporting the families of Hillsborough victims



    Liverpool legend Sir Kenny Dalglish has received his knighthood from the Prince of Wales in recognition of an outstanding career on and off the pitch.



    Daglish won three European Cups in seven years with Liverpool, and as a manager earned top-flight league championship titles with the Anfield club and Blackburn Rovers.



    His off-field heroics include supporting the families of the Hillsborough disaster and his charity work with his wife Marina which has raised more than £10million.



    When the announcement was made in June, Dalglish admitted he thought the letter was from the taxman.





    Liverpool legend Sir Kenny Dalglish is knighted by the Prince of Wales (Image: PA)



    Dalglish was honoured for his services to football and charity (Image: PA)

    “I got a letter through the door. I thought it was the taxman!” he said.



    “I saw a wee bit of the crown but as I went to open it the door bell went so I said to Marina, ‘here’ and she went, ‘Ooooh…’ That was it.



    “It is some journey, aye. You start off in your life just hoping to be a footballer.



    "You become a footballer and have a bit of success in the football world and that seems to give you a platform to go on to other things.



    “We (with wife Marina) only set out to do the best we possibly could, even through all the other stuff. The charity or Hillsborough; it was to help people because somebody helped us.



    Steve Nicol, Kenny Dalglish, Alan Hansen, Gary Gillespie, and Greaeme Souness celebrate with the trophy after winning the UEFA European Cup Final



    Dalglish won three European Cups with Liverpool (Image: Liverpool FC

    “You start off with your parents and they put you on the right road. Then the football; you couldn't get any better tutors than Jock Stein and Bob Paisley.



    “People might say they didn’t get a recognition like this. I wouldn't get into a discussion about that but I’m not saying I’m any more deserving than those two great men.



    “Someone has thought it was fitting for me to get it and that’s all we can deal with at the moment. We are hugely proud to have got this accolade.”



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  • scruffynickscruffynick Members Posts: 1,467 ✭✭
    Texas1 wrote:


    Arise Sir Kenny



    He stood with a city on his shoulders that nearly broke him. Not a more deserving man on the planet.



    Sir Kenny Dalglish receives knighthood for heroics on and off the field



    The Scot has been recognised for services to football and his efforts in supporting the families of Hillsborough victims





    The Scot has been recognised for services to football and his efforts in supporting the families of Hillsborough victims



    Liverpool legend Sir Kenny Dalglish has received his knighthood from the Prince of Wales in recognition of an outstanding career on and off the pitch.



    Daglish won three European Cups in seven years with Liverpool, and as a manager earned top-flight league championship titles with the Anfield club and Blackburn Rovers.



    His off-field heroics include supporting the families of the Hillsborough disaster and his charity work with his wife Marina which has raised more than £10million.



    When the announcement was made in June, Dalglish admitted he thought the letter was from the taxman.





    Liverpool legend Sir Kenny Dalglish is knighted by the Prince of Wales (Image: PA)



    Dalglish was honoured for his services to football and charity (Image: PA)

    “I got a letter through the door. I thought it was the taxman!” he said.



    “I saw a wee bit of the crown but as I went to open it the door bell went so I said to Marina, ‘here’ and she went, ‘Ooooh…’ That was it.



    “It is some journey, aye. You start off in your life just hoping to be a footballer.



    "You become a footballer and have a bit of success in the football world and that seems to give you a platform to go on to other things.



    “We (with wife Marina) only set out to do the best we possibly could, even through all the other stuff. The charity or Hillsborough; it was to help people because somebody helped us.



    Steve Nicol, Kenny Dalglish, Alan Hansen, Gary Gillespie, and Greaeme Souness celebrate with the trophy after winning the UEFA European Cup Final



    Dalglish won three European Cups with Liverpool (Image: Liverpool FC

    “You start off with your parents and they put you on the right road. Then the football; you couldn't get any better tutors than Jock Stein and Bob Paisley.



    “People might say they didn’t get a recognition like this. I wouldn't get into a discussion about that but I’m not saying I’m any more deserving than those two great men.



    “Someone has thought it was fitting for me to get it and that’s all we can deal with at the moment. We are hugely proud to have got this accolade.”


    About time too.... For what he did after hilsbrough was remarkable!
  • Texas1Texas1 Posts: 309 ✭✭
    Klopp ya mad bastxxx 😂
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  • Texas1Texas1 Posts: 309 ✭✭
    Oh Everton, we’re all laughing at you



    Comical end to the Merseyside derby, but can’t stop laughing at that goal and Klopp



    Probably get a ban for it the mad lunatic
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  • Imhappyinthe80sImhappyinthe80s Posts: 441 ✭✭
    December drives me crazy because golf usually officially ends for 3 months....but I love EPL in December. Can't wait for fixtures 5-6 days a week
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  • ea19ea19 future hall of famer Posts: 394 ✭✭


    Far behind in most things to be fair.... Except support, City will never ever be on uniteds level. Could have been messy, 3-1 seems like a result





    Are you sure? It does not take long and suddenly you are outdated, tired and the generation has passed you by. Ask Nottingham F and the Dallas Cowboys. If City wins the champions league this year, it could really snowball. Not sure they have the owners to get back on the right path. We know they don’t have the manager.
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  • scruffynickscruffynick Members Posts: 1,467 ✭✭
    ea19 wrote:




    Far behind in most things to be fair.... Except support, City will never ever be on uniteds level. Could have been messy, 3-1 seems like a result





    Are you sure? It does not take long and suddenly you are outdated, tired and the generation has passed you by. Ask Nottingham F and the Dallas Cowboys. If City wins the champions league this year, it could really snowball. Not sure they have the owners to get back on the right path. We know they don’t have the manager.


    City will never and I mean never be united level of support. Just go to my city to find out, its 2/3 red and always has been. Even in 74 after relegation they had the highest attendance in the UK, 3rd in Europe. City after the war were the so called bigger team yet united each season had over 20k more supporters coming through the gates.... Nothing has changed.

    City can't fill out now and its buy one get one free at present time.... With that team. 76k turn out at old trafford each home game to watch dross! Don't even try and convince anybody that City can overtake uniteds support as even the blue mancs stay quite on that one. Just come to Manchester and find out
  • Texas1Texas1 Posts: 309 ✭✭

    ea19 wrote:




    Far behind in most things to be fair.... Except support, City will never ever be on uniteds level. Could have been messy, 3-1 seems like a result





    Are you sure? It does not take long and suddenly you are outdated, tired and the generation has passed you by. Ask Nottingham F and the Dallas Cowboys. If City wins the champions league this year, it could really snowball. Not sure they have the owners to get back on the right path. We know they don’t have the manager.


    City will never and I mean never be united level of support. Just go to my city to find out, its 2/3 red and always has been. Even in 74 after relegation they had the highest attendance in the UK, 3rd in Europe. City after the war were the so called bigger team yet united each season had over 20k more supporters coming through the gates.... Nothing has changed.

    City can't fill out now and its buy one get one free at present time.... With that team. 76k turn out at old trafford each home game to watch dross! Don't even try and convince anybody that City can overtake uniteds support as even the blue mancs stay quite on that one. Just come to Manchester and find out




    Even though I have no time for UTD the above is true

    City are like Chelsea, rich sugar daddy, Johnny come lately

    Don’t get me wrong, all credit to them as they are building something good, on the back of ffp rules ignored lol.



    They will never be as big a club Utd, same way Everton will never be the biggest club on Merseyside



    To suggest anything else is just folly

    And as Nick states, they can’t fill their ground now, always 1000’s of seats empty, good accounting for sell outs image/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />



    At least it’s a better stadium that Maine Rd with the old Kippax, holy **** that was not a good place to watch an away side like I did a few times
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  • scruffynickscruffynick Members Posts: 1,467 ✭✭
    Texas1 wrote:


    ea19 wrote:




    Far behind in most things to be fair.... Except support, City will never ever be on uniteds level. Could have been messy, 3-1 seems like a result





    Are you sure? It does not take long and suddenly you are outdated, tired and the generation has passed you by. Ask Nottingham F and the Dallas Cowboys. If City wins the champions league this year, it could really snowball. Not sure they have the owners to get back on the right path. We know they don’t have the manager.


    City will never and I mean never be united level of support. Just go to my city to find out, its 2/3 red and always has been. Even in 74 after relegation they had the highest attendance in the UK, 3rd in Europe. City after the war were the so called bigger team yet united each season had over 20k more supporters coming through the gates.... Nothing has changed.

    City can't fill out now and its buy one get one free at present time.... With that team. 76k turn out at old trafford each home game to watch dross! Don't even try and convince anybody that City can overtake uniteds support as even the blue mancs stay quite on that one. Just come to Manchester and find out




    Even though I have no time for UTD the above is true

    City are like Chelsea, rich sugar daddy, Johnny come lately

    Don’t get me wrong, all credit to them as they are building something good, on the back of ffp rules ignored lol.



    They will never be as big a club Utd, same way Everton will never be the biggest club on Merseyside



    To suggest anything else is just folly

    And as Nick states, they can’t fill their ground now, always 1000’s of seats empty, good accounting for sell outs image/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />



    At least it’s a better stadium that Maine Rd with the old Kippax, holy **** that was not a good place to watch an away side like I did a few times


    Cheers pal... I was going to mention pool to Everton but I ran out of steam... But I rather liked maine Rd, got a brilliant atmosphere back in the day, you know when games were sat 3pm!
  • Texas1Texas1 Posts: 309 ✭✭

    Texas1 wrote:


    ea19 wrote:




    Far behind in most things to be fair.... Except support, City will never ever be on uniteds level. Could have been messy, 3-1 seems like a result





    Are you sure? It does not take long and suddenly you are outdated, tired and the generation has passed you by. Ask Nottingham F and the Dallas Cowboys. If City wins the champions league this year, it could really snowball. Not sure they have the owners to get back on the right path. We know they don’t have the manager.


    City will never and I mean never be united level of support. Just go to my city to find out, its 2/3 red and always has been. Even in 74 after relegation they had the highest attendance in the UK, 3rd in Europe. City after the war were the so called bigger team yet united each season had over 20k more supporters coming through the gates.... Nothing has changed.

    City can't fill out now and its buy one get one free at present time.... With that team. 76k turn out at old trafford each home game to watch dross! Don't even try and convince anybody that City can overtake uniteds support as even the blue mancs stay quite on that one. Just come to Manchester and find out




    Even though I have no time for UTD the above is true

    City are like Chelsea, rich sugar daddy, Johnny come lately

    Don’t get me wrong, all credit to them as they are building something good, on the back of ffp rules ignored lol.



    They will never be as big a club Utd, same way Everton will never be the biggest club on Merseyside



    To suggest anything else is just folly

    And as Nick states, they can’t fill their ground now, always 1000’s of seats empty, good accounting for sell outs image/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />



    At least it’s a better stadium that Maine Rd with the old Kippax, holy **** that was not a good place to watch an away side like I did a few times


    Cheers pal... I was going to mention pool to Everton but I ran out of steam... But I rather liked maine Rd, got a brilliant atmosphere back in the day, you know when games were sat 3pm!




    I wasn’t from Manchester so my accent stood out like like a Tory in Liverpool



    Not a bad ground, old school, but in a shithole 😂



    Anyway back to your mid table club 😉
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  • scruffynickscruffynick Members Posts: 1,467 ✭✭
    Texas1 wrote:


    Texas1 wrote:


    ea19 wrote:




    Far behind in most things to be fair.... Except support, City will never ever be on uniteds level. Could have been messy, 3-1 seems like a result





    Are you sure? It does not take long and suddenly you are outdated, tired and the generation has passed you by. Ask Nottingham F and the Dallas Cowboys. If City wins the champions league this year, it could really snowball. Not sure they have the owners to get back on the right path. We know they don’t have the manager.


    City will never and I mean never be united level of support. Just go to my city to find out, its 2/3 red and always has been. Even in 74 after relegation they had the highest attendance in the UK, 3rd in Europe. City after the war were the so called bigger team yet united each season had over 20k more supporters coming through the gates.... Nothing has changed.

    City can't fill out now and its buy one get one free at present time.... With that team. 76k turn out at old trafford each home game to watch dross! Don't even try and convince anybody that City can overtake uniteds support as even the blue mancs stay quite on that one. Just come to Manchester and find out




    Even though I have no time for UTD the above is true

    City are like Chelsea, rich sugar daddy, Johnny come lately

    Don’t get me wrong, all credit to them as they are building something good, on the back of ffp rules ignored lol.



    They will never be as big a club Utd, same way Everton will never be the biggest club on Merseyside



    To suggest anything else is just folly

    And as Nick states, they can’t fill their ground now, always 1000’s of seats empty, good accounting for sell outs image/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />



    At least it’s a better stadium that Maine Rd with the old Kippax, holy **** that was not a good place to watch an away side like I did a few times


    Cheers pal... I was going to mention pool to Everton but I ran out of steam... But I rather liked maine Rd, got a brilliant atmosphere back in the day, you know when games were sat 3pm!




    I wasn’t from Manchester so my accent stood out like like a Tory in Liverpool



    Not a bad ground, old school, but in a shithole 😂



    Anyway back to your mid table club 😉


    Hey, we got another draw.... Finish 6th again. Hope for a good fa cup run
  • Texas1Texas1 Posts: 309 ✭✭
    Ok, well his agent has just made all Liverpool fans happy



    Jose is happy and so are his employers



    Must not read between the lines
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  • scruffynickscruffynick Members Posts: 1,467 ✭✭
    Texas1 wrote:


    Ok, well his agent has just made all Liverpool fans happy



    Jose is happy and so are his employers



    Must not read between the lines


    He won't be there come the summer. Whisper I heard off a MEN journalist is uniteds first choice is poch, will try and turn his head come may
  • Texas1Texas1 Posts: 309 ✭✭
    He will do well at yours

    We all want Maureen to fulfil his contract
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  • cbrwn425cbrwn425 Members Posts: 344 ✭✭

    Texas1 wrote:


    Ok, well his agent has just made all Liverpool fans happy



    Jose is happy and so are his employers



    Must not read between the lines


    He won't be there come the summer. Whisper I heard off a MEN journalist is uniteds first choice is poch, will try and turn his head come may




    I would absolutely love for us to be able to lure Poch away from Spurs.
  • GolfChannelGolfChannel Orlando, FloridaMembers Posts: 1,630 ✭✭
    cbrwn425 wrote:

    Texas1 wrote:


    Ok, well his agent has just made all Liverpool fans happy



    Jose is happy and so are his employers



    Must not read between the lines


    He won't be there come the summer. Whisper I heard off a MEN journalist is uniteds first choice is poch, will try and turn his head come may




    I would absolutely love for us to be able to lure Poch away from Spurs.




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  • GolfingfanaticGolfingfanatic Members Posts: 3,013 ✭✭
    edited Dec 11, 2018 #832
    Poch used to coach Espanyol. If I remember correctly, he said recently that he wouldn’t want to coach Barça out of allegiance to Espanyol. I think Real is more likely. No way they keep Solari long term.
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  • Texas1Texas1 Posts: 309 ✭✭
    Not matter how shite manu are at the moment, this weekends game will be a cagey affair



    Utd to play act, waste time, park the bus and hope for a swallow dive in our box on Sunday



    All the hallmarks of a typical Maureen setup and win



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  • scruffynickscruffynick Members Posts: 1,467 ✭✭
    edited Dec 14, 2018 #834
    Texas1 wrote:


    Not matter how shite manu are at the moment, this weekends game will be a cagey affair



    Utd to play act, waste time, park the bus and hope for a swallow dive in our box on Sunday



    All the hallmarks of a typical Maureen setup and win



    😂😉


    Haven't won in 9 games.... But you will on sunday! Diving?? A team with sturridge, even chomps in his book wrote how bad he's at diving
  • Texas1Texas1 Posts: 309 ✭✭
    edited Dec 16, 2018 #835
    Routine win against mid table shite



    Just another 3 points for the reds
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    Texas1 wrote:


    Routine win against mid table shite



    Just another 3 points for the reds


    Uggg! Like the midtable jibe, since when has 6th ever been midtable?? That means pool have been midtable shite for 20 odd years.... But joking aside pool are an outstanding side, might just finally win it this time
  • Texas1Texas1 Posts: 309 ✭✭
    Well you are closer to bottom than you are to top. So mid table is spot on



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  • Texas1Texas1 Posts: 309 ✭✭
    Still think City have a better squad tbf

    Klopp is doing an outstanding job, even though he’s won nothing. All I want atm is the club to be executing well laid out plans.



    We aren’t buying complete shite anymore and we are waiting till the player comes available or agreeing a huge fee for the right one



    For example, mane Firmino and salah cost the same as lukaku. That’s great business



    Unfortunately you’ve slipped into buying with no plan. Football always goes full circle.



    I told you he’d destroy the club from inside. Charlton knew it and wanted him nowhere near your club. Gill and Ferguson, you can’t replace that, just like us replacing a long lost of bootroom boys after dalglish
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  • scruffynickscruffynick Members Posts: 1,467 ✭✭
    Texas1 wrote:


    Still think City have a better squad tbf

    Klopp is doing an outstanding job, even though he’s won nothing. All I want atm is the club to be executing well laid out plans.



    We aren’t buying complete shite anymore and we are waiting till the player comes available or agreeing a huge fee for the right one



    For example, mane Firmino and salah cost the same as lukaku. That’s great business



    Unfortunately you’ve slipped into buying with no plan. Football always goes full circle.



    I told you he’d destroy the club from inside. Charlton knew it and wanted him nowhere near your club. Gill and Ferguson, you can’t replace that, just like us replacing a long lost of bootroom boys after dalglish


    Spot on, amazed how both clubs have mirrored each other. Going to take years to rebuild. In hind sight, lvg should have done his last year and tried everything to get poch.... Oh well, dreadful season but Xmas do on Saturday and I'll be utterly hammered by the time United are on at 5.30,so I won't even remember what dog poo Jose served up
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  • Texas1Texas1 Posts: 309 ✭✭
    Great article here



    Ken Early: Mourinho is the manager Manchester United deserve



    about 10 hours ago

    Nine months have passed since Sevilla knocked Manchester United out of the Champions League, when the Spanish club’s Danish defender Simon Kjaer gave the most perceptive and withering assessment of what José Mourinho’s team were all about: “We knew that with Fellaini and Lukaku they will always have chances from . . . how do you say that in English . . . coincidences.”



    Coincidence football – kick and rush, hit and hope, close your eyes and pray. There was a period at Anfield last night when it looked as though the football of coincidences might get United through. It doesn’t always matter if the other team is dominating the match – there’s always a chance their keeper might drop one on your striker’s foot.



    But it usually matters. As one of those old American sportswriters used to say, the race is not always to the swift, nor the battle to the strong, but that’s the way to bet. When one team has 36 attempts on goal and the other only six, there’s more chance of the first team benefiting from a couple of lucky deflections.



    When Mourinho was asked afterwards on Sky if his players were still playing for him, he tried to turn it into a word game. “What is that? Play for me? Are you calling the players dishonest?”



    According to this latest Mourinho rhetoric, the honest player gives 100 per cent every time they take the field while only the dishonest player gives less, regardless of who happens to be standing in the dugout. If that is true you have to wonder how managers like Mourinho can get clubs to pay them £15 million a year. You can tell he must be pretty desperate if he’s had to resort to such a manager-minimising line of argument.



    But of course, his talk about honest and dishonest players should not be taken as a sincere pronouncement about how football works. It’s a tactical device meant to create confusion and divert attention away from himself. It’s not that Manchester United’s players didn’t try: in a game like that every player is trying. It’s that, as usual under Mourinho, they went out with no real idea of how they were going to win the game.



    Terror of losing



    The key to understanding Mourinho is that there is no other top manager who has such a terror of losing. The terror conditions his approach to every big match, and means that this approach will always be risk-averse and safety-first. If his team wins on a coincidence then so much the better, but if the coincidences don’t go their way that’s okay as long as they do not lose.



    The terror might seem like an unusual psychological quirk, until you realise that it is the logical culmination of an ultra-cynical approach to the game that focuses only on the result at the expense of everything else. The terror is where you end up when you regard the performance – that is, the actual football – as something that could interest only the “Einsteins”, the “poets”, and other such dreamers and frauds.



    In Mourinho’s view, it does not really matter whether his players play “well” or “badly”, whether they create 36 chances or six. What matters is what is written on the scoreboard at the end of the game. If the scoreboard says that Mourinho has won, then he gets to shush the camera, trash some water-bottles, troll the critics. If the scoreboard says that Mourinho has won even though certain statistics suggest the other team perhaps had the better of the game, then so much the better, as he gets to troll the statisticians as well. As long as the scoreboard says Mourinho has won, all is well in his world – until he wakes up on the next matchday and has to worry about losing again.



    But while Mourinho is only thinking about the scoreboard, the players also have to think about how to get through the 90 minutes of the match, and here they get very little help from Mourinho.



    He has been at Manchester United for two-and-a-half years and there is still no sign of a football identity – of the kind that rivals such as Jurgen Klopp, Pep Guardiola, Mauricio Pochettino and Maurizio Sarri had managed to imprint on their teams within at most a few months of their arrival. These managers do tactics, Mourinho specialises in drama.



    At Chelsea they argue over whether Hazard should play up front or out wide, at Liverpool they squabble over which combination offers the best balance in midfield. At United the argument always seems to be about which player just got thrown under the bus, and whether they deserved it or not. The fact that a significant section of the Manchester United crowd seems to have turned on their best player, Paul Pogba, is a sad testament to how effective Mourinho’s dramatic distractions can be.



    Results-only approach



    The worst thing about this mess from Manchester United’s point of view is that, right now, Mourinho is exactly the manager they deserve. His results-only approach is mirrored in the boardroom, where the leading director, Ed Woodward, is also judged on outcomes and not processes. Woodward’s employers don’t ask: “Is the club doing better this year than last year?” They ask: “Did we make more money this year than we did last year?” As long as the answer to this second question is yes, then Woodward has nothing to worry about.



    The big threat to the bottom line at United is failure to qualify for the Champions League – not just because they lose out on participation money, but also because their big sponsorship contracts pay less if they don’t qualify. Right now it looks like the only feasible way back into next year’s Champions League is to win it this year, and that does not look likely.



    The heat is therefore on Woodward, but at the moment Mourinho has one thing still going for him. The main reason why Louis van Gaal – a process-focused manager – lost his job immediately after winning the FA Cup was that Mourinho the superstar was available to replace him.



    Currently there is no obvious candidate to replace Mourinho – and remember, the candidate has to be very obvious for outcomes-focused directors like Woodward to notice them. This is not a board that is about to take a risk on a lesser-known coach simply because their team plays great football: United’s directors are blind to things like that.



    They could perhaps give Michael Carrick the job on a caretaker basis, in the vague hope of unearthing a home-grown Guardiola – but they lack the football insight to form a credible judgment of Carrick’s potential. Hiring him would be a shot in the dark. What they want more than anything is a big box-office name, preferably one big enough for a couple of directors to hide behind.



    But right now all the managerial superstars are spoken for, so the loveless embrace with Mourinho could go on for a while yet.
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