J13's - WITB - 2019 Callaway Triple Diamond for the win

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  • youngunz5840youngunz5840 Members Posts: 2,370 ✭✭✭✭✭✭

    Hey J13. Just did a driver fitting and I need to get my launch spin and peak height down with some forgiveness. Fitter got the shaft pinpointed with a TZ5 M5 but did not pinpoint a head. My smash factor was best on the ts3, EF triple diamond and ts4 really lowered my spin and launch. I am a mid handicapper at 12 with 113 SS but not their fitting heads had issues. Litterally had the adapter break on the ts3 and EF Triple diamond after 4 swing with each. How is the forgiveness on the EF? i hit one shot with an open face that I thought I hit terrible and the smash factor was 1.49.

  • J13J13 Dad golf Members Posts: 15,562 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    TS4 will produce some rockets but with any low low spin head, it will be punishing on misses. No way around it and I would say don't get lured in by trackman numbers. TS3 is a good stick though if you like the shape.

    The Triple EF ended up in my bag because of its consistency in spin and ball speed retention. Misses around the face are not punished and numbers don't jump around if you slightly heel or toe one. It's one of the most balanced drivers I tested (ping g410 plus being another) but maintains a lower spin profile. And the profile/shape is OUTSTANDING

    So think MOI G410 Plus but spin of G410 LST.

    Callaway Epic Flash Triple Diamond 9* / Mitsubishi Tensei White 70TX
    Callaway EF 3+ w/ HZRDUS Black 75 6.5
    Srixon 745's 4-PW / Modus Tour 120 TX
    Callaway MD3 50, 54, 60 / Modus 125
    Odyssey Stroke Lab Double Wide Flow Neck 35.5" (counter weight removed)
    Srixon Zstar XV
    GolfWRX WITB Podcast - Irons reveal 11/14/18 http://www.golfwrx.c...utm_content=sub
    GolfWrx WITB Podcast 2017 : http://www.golfwrx.com/482668/tgtg-golfwrx-forum-member-j13-talks-witb-and-club-testing/
    WITB- http://www.golfwrx.c.../page__st__1590
  • youngunz5840youngunz5840 Members Posts: 2,370 ✭✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks! Now to find a 9* or 8.5 head and green dot adapter

  • double or triple?double or triple? Members Posts: 1,994 ✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @youngunz5840 said:
    Thanks! Now to find a 9* or 8.5 head and green dot adapter

    So you normally play a 7-6.5* driver?

  • youngunz5840youngunz5840 Members Posts: 2,370 ✭✭✭✭✭✭

    My fitting over the weekend showed that I need to play 7* to get my launch and spin down.

  • double or triple?double or triple? Members Posts: 1,994 ✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @youngunz5840 said:
    My fitting over the weekend showed that I need to play 7* to get my launch and spin down.

    Dang. Seen a lot on eBay last week but prices were high

  • J13J13 Dad golf Members Posts: 15,562 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @youngunz5840 said:
    My fitting over the weekend showed that I need to play 7* to get my launch and spin down.

    The problem you run into with loft that low is dispersion. I'm tempted from time to time to get a 7* head and just hit bullets but when the swing is off the driver goes sideways quick.

    Callaway Epic Flash Triple Diamond 9* / Mitsubishi Tensei White 70TX
    Callaway EF 3+ w/ HZRDUS Black 75 6.5
    Srixon 745's 4-PW / Modus Tour 120 TX
    Callaway MD3 50, 54, 60 / Modus 125
    Odyssey Stroke Lab Double Wide Flow Neck 35.5" (counter weight removed)
    Srixon Zstar XV
    GolfWRX WITB Podcast - Irons reveal 11/14/18 http://www.golfwrx.c...utm_content=sub
    GolfWrx WITB Podcast 2017 : http://www.golfwrx.com/482668/tgtg-golfwrx-forum-member-j13-talks-witb-and-club-testing/
    WITB- http://www.golfwrx.c.../page__st__1590
  • J13J13 Dad golf Members Posts: 15,562 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @J13 said:

    @youngunz5840 said:
    My fitting over the weekend showed that I need to play 7* to get my launch and spin down.

    The problem you run into with loft that low is dispersion. I'm tempted from time to time to get a 7* head and just hit bullets but when the swing is off the driver goes sideways quick. Of course if that floats your boat then by all means, but if you are looking for fairways then 2700-2800 spin isn't all that bad.

    Callaway Epic Flash Triple Diamond 9* / Mitsubishi Tensei White 70TX
    Callaway EF 3+ w/ HZRDUS Black 75 6.5
    Srixon 745's 4-PW / Modus Tour 120 TX
    Callaway MD3 50, 54, 60 / Modus 125
    Odyssey Stroke Lab Double Wide Flow Neck 35.5" (counter weight removed)
    Srixon Zstar XV
    GolfWRX WITB Podcast - Irons reveal 11/14/18 http://www.golfwrx.c...utm_content=sub
    GolfWrx WITB Podcast 2017 : http://www.golfwrx.com/482668/tgtg-golfwrx-forum-member-j13-talks-witb-and-club-testing/
    WITB- http://www.golfwrx.c.../page__st__1590
  • youngunz5840youngunz5840 Members Posts: 2,370 ✭✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks J13 talked to Mark from Center Cut Golf about heads and the tz5 and he suggested the G410lst. Went that route at 8* and happy with the results. At one point I put it at 7.5 with weight in heel and agree with you that the super low spinner is not a real life option.
    The head open from 9 to 8 with the weight in center has kept the left side out and I am hitting fades or straight which ill take all day

  • J13J13 Dad golf Members Posts: 15,562 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @youngunz5840 said:
    Thanks J13 talked to Mark from Center Cut Golf about heads and the tz5 and he suggested the G410lst. Went that route at 8* and happy with the results. At one point I put it at 7.5 with weight in heel and agree with you that the super low spinner is not a real life option.
    The head open from 9 to 8 with the weight in center has kept the left side out and I am hitting fades or straight which ill take all day

    Cool, yeah the TZ5 is a great option. Speaking of Accra, interested to see how things progress now that True Temper bought them.

    Callaway Epic Flash Triple Diamond 9* / Mitsubishi Tensei White 70TX
    Callaway EF 3+ w/ HZRDUS Black 75 6.5
    Srixon 745's 4-PW / Modus Tour 120 TX
    Callaway MD3 50, 54, 60 / Modus 125
    Odyssey Stroke Lab Double Wide Flow Neck 35.5" (counter weight removed)
    Srixon Zstar XV
    GolfWRX WITB Podcast - Irons reveal 11/14/18 http://www.golfwrx.c...utm_content=sub
    GolfWrx WITB Podcast 2017 : http://www.golfwrx.com/482668/tgtg-golfwrx-forum-member-j13-talks-witb-and-club-testing/
    WITB- http://www.golfwrx.c.../page__st__1590
  • double or triple?double or triple? Members Posts: 1,994 ✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @J13 said:

    @youngunz5840 said:
    Thanks J13 talked to Mark from Center Cut Golf about heads and the tz5 and he suggested the G410lst. Went that route at 8* and happy with the results. At one point I put it at 7.5 with weight in heel and agree with you that the super low spinner is not a real life option.
    The head open from 9 to 8 with the weight in center has kept the left side out and I am hitting fades or straight which ill take all day

    Cool, yeah the TZ5 is a great option. Speaking of Accra, interested to see how things progress now that True Temper bought them.

    it's going to be interesting for sure.

  • J13J13 Dad golf Members Posts: 15,562 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @double or triple? said:

    @J13 said:

    @youngunz5840 said:
    Thanks J13 talked to Mark from Center Cut Golf about heads and the tz5 and he suggested the G410lst. Went that route at 8* and happy with the results. At one point I put it at 7.5 with weight in heel and agree with you that the super low spinner is not a real life option.
    The head open from 9 to 8 with the weight in center has kept the left side out and I am hitting fades or straight which ill take all day

    Cool, yeah the TZ5 is a great option. Speaking of Accra, interested to see how things progress now that True Temper bought them.

    it's going to be interesting for sure.

    I was hoping that would mean Accra shaft would be available by OEM's but apparently, that won't be the case and it will remain exclusively for dealers and fitters.

    Callaway Epic Flash Triple Diamond 9* / Mitsubishi Tensei White 70TX
    Callaway EF 3+ w/ HZRDUS Black 75 6.5
    Srixon 745's 4-PW / Modus Tour 120 TX
    Callaway MD3 50, 54, 60 / Modus 125
    Odyssey Stroke Lab Double Wide Flow Neck 35.5" (counter weight removed)
    Srixon Zstar XV
    GolfWRX WITB Podcast - Irons reveal 11/14/18 http://www.golfwrx.c...utm_content=sub
    GolfWrx WITB Podcast 2017 : http://www.golfwrx.com/482668/tgtg-golfwrx-forum-member-j13-talks-witb-and-club-testing/
    WITB- http://www.golfwrx.c.../page__st__1590
  • ProjectX_MizunoProjectX_Mizuno Members Posts: 1,791 ✭✭✭✭✭✭

    Hey my friend. Thank you for your honest insight and reviews. I have been on this site for a long time and have learned over the years to filter out those who are genuine. I decided to give the EF TD a go based on the information your provided this board. Simply put, it is the best driver I have ever owned and that is saying something as I have hit and/or purchased many. I wanted to express my gratitude for your contribution. Hit em well!

  • double or triple?double or triple? Members Posts: 1,994 ✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @J13 said:

    @double or triple? said:

    @J13 said:

    @youngunz5840 said:
    Thanks J13 talked to Mark from Center Cut Golf about heads and the tz5 and he suggested the G410lst. Went that route at 8* and happy with the results. At one point I put it at 7.5 with weight in heel and agree with you that the super low spinner is not a real life option.
    The head open from 9 to 8 with the weight in center has kept the left side out and I am hitting fades or straight which ill take all day

    Cool, yeah the TZ5 is a great option. Speaking of Accra, interested to see how things progress now that True Temper bought them.

    it's going to be interesting for sure.

    I was hoping that would mean Accra shaft would be available by OEM's but apparently, that won't be the case and it will remain exclusively for dealers and fitters.

    Maybe in the future but starting out it definitely be through the regular aftermarket channels

  • J13J13 Dad golf Members Posts: 15,562 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @ProjectX_Mizuno said:
    Hey my friend. Thank you for your honest insight and reviews. I have been on this site for a long time and have learned over the years to filter out those who are genuine. I decided to give the EF TD a go based on the information your provided this board. Simply put, it is the best driver I have ever owned and that is saying something as I have hit and/or purchased many. I wanted to express my gratitude for your contribution. Hit em well!

    Happy to help and I feel the exact same away about the TD. The only weakness the driver has is it's name. "Callaway Epic Flash Sub Zero Triple Diamond" is almost as long as my shots with the actual driver haha. It checks all the boxes for me and is without a doubt the best Cally head every produced.

    @double or triple? said:

    @J13 said:

    @double or triple? said:

    @J13 said:

    @youngunz5840 said:
    Thanks J13 talked to Mark from Center Cut Golf about heads and the tz5 and he suggested the G410lst. Went that route at 8* and happy with the results. At one point I put it at 7.5 with weight in heel and agree with you that the super low spinner is not a real life option.
    The head open from 9 to 8 with the weight in center has kept the left side out and I am hitting fades or straight which ill take all day

    Cool, yeah the TZ5 is a great option. Speaking of Accra, interested to see how things progress now that True Temper bought them.

    it's going to be interesting for sure.

    I was hoping that would mean Accra shaft would be available by OEM's but apparently, that won't be the case and it will remain exclusively for dealers and fitters.

    Maybe in the future but starting out it definitely be through the regular aftermarket channels

    I agree. I'd have to imagine after 2-3 years there will start to be some offerings through the major OEM's in the catalog. I mean why wouldn't you right?

    Callaway Epic Flash Triple Diamond 9* / Mitsubishi Tensei White 70TX
    Callaway EF 3+ w/ HZRDUS Black 75 6.5
    Srixon 745's 4-PW / Modus Tour 120 TX
    Callaway MD3 50, 54, 60 / Modus 125
    Odyssey Stroke Lab Double Wide Flow Neck 35.5" (counter weight removed)
    Srixon Zstar XV
    GolfWRX WITB Podcast - Irons reveal 11/14/18 http://www.golfwrx.c...utm_content=sub
    GolfWrx WITB Podcast 2017 : http://www.golfwrx.com/482668/tgtg-golfwrx-forum-member-j13-talks-witb-and-club-testing/
    WITB- http://www.golfwrx.c.../page__st__1590
  • WarrickWarrick ClubWRX Posts: 10,561 ClubWRX

    ****, lost track of this in the new format. Good info as always. I am back to OG Epic, but need to try the new SZ, nothing else has stuck. If I grab one, will be in touch for hot melt....lol

    Epic 9* HZRDUS Smoke
    F9 Tour 3w\13.5 - Smoke 70
    F9 Tour 5w\17.5- Smoke 70
    Epic hybrid - 22* Pro White 90
    Mizuno 919 combo 5-9 LZ Blackout 
    Mizuno T7 - 45-49-53-58 LZ Blackout 
    Custom V-Line Fang
    TM TP5X
  • J13J13 Dad golf Members Posts: 15,562 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @Warrick said:
    ****, lost track of this in the new format. Good info as always. I am back to OG Epic, but need to try the new SZ, nothing else has stuck. If I grab one, will be in touch for hot melt....lol

    Triple Diamond is the way to go. Forgiveness of the Epic Flash with Spin closer to the EF SZ. It's a brilliant driver.

    Callaway Epic Flash Triple Diamond 9* / Mitsubishi Tensei White 70TX
    Callaway EF 3+ w/ HZRDUS Black 75 6.5
    Srixon 745's 4-PW / Modus Tour 120 TX
    Callaway MD3 50, 54, 60 / Modus 125
    Odyssey Stroke Lab Double Wide Flow Neck 35.5" (counter weight removed)
    Srixon Zstar XV
    GolfWRX WITB Podcast - Irons reveal 11/14/18 http://www.golfwrx.c...utm_content=sub
    GolfWrx WITB Podcast 2017 : http://www.golfwrx.com/482668/tgtg-golfwrx-forum-member-j13-talks-witb-and-club-testing/
    WITB- http://www.golfwrx.c.../page__st__1590
  • oldhamer25oldhamer25 Members Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭✭✭✭

    Followed J's advice and tried the EF TD and have been very pleased. I just need to tip my current smoke shaft or follow J's lead and try the ad vr or tensei white.

    917 D3 8.5 Xphlexx Agera Orange RF Proto
    SLDR Mini 12 Evo Speeder TS 757x
    SLDR Mini 15.8 Rogue Black 110 80TX
    Srixon 765 4-6 PX LZ 6.0
    Srixon 965 7-PW PX LZ 6.0
    Mizuno T7 50 PX LZ 6.0
    Vokey TVD 54V & 58V
    Bettinardi Studio Stock 14 or Odyssey O-works 7
  • J13J13 Dad golf Members Posts: 15,562 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭
    edited Aug 11, 2019 2:12pm #2900

    @oldhamer25 said:
    Followed J's advice and tried the EF TD and have been very pleased. I just need to tip my current smoke shaft or follow J's lead and try the ad vr or tensei white.

    Played this morning (2:20 round btw (18 holes) and the EF with Tensei White was exceptional. I'm pretty sure i'm settled on this combo over the VR. I also have a Mitsu proto i'm messing around with Im not sure I like it as much as the Tesnei White. On side note I notice a faint creeking noise in the driver. I'm hoping the shaft isn't failing and it's just some epoxy breakdown from me leaving my clubs in the trunk during a heat wave (long story). In any case i'm going to take it apart, clean it, and re epoxy. Fingers crossed



    Callaway Epic Flash Triple Diamond 9* / Mitsubishi Tensei White 70TX
    Callaway EF 3+ w/ HZRDUS Black 75 6.5
    Srixon 745's 4-PW / Modus Tour 120 TX
    Callaway MD3 50, 54, 60 / Modus 125
    Odyssey Stroke Lab Double Wide Flow Neck 35.5" (counter weight removed)
    Srixon Zstar XV
    GolfWRX WITB Podcast - Irons reveal 11/14/18 http://www.golfwrx.c...utm_content=sub
    GolfWrx WITB Podcast 2017 : http://www.golfwrx.com/482668/tgtg-golfwrx-forum-member-j13-talks-witb-and-club-testing/
    WITB- http://www.golfwrx.c.../page__st__1590

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