Miura CB57 Review

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  • SmoothStroker81SmoothStroker81 I'd rather be driving a Kirkland Sig Members Posts: 207
    edited Dec 12, 2016 #122
    MY CB57's are solid and explosive, sending the ball on a boring/piercing trajectory with Modus 120X shafts. Definitely the most solid feeling irons I've hit.



    Hitting them off mats at the driving range was a little disappointing, but on the course with real balls is where they shine.
    Driver: Taylormade M2 9.5 Rogue 125 70TX
    3W: Taylormade M2 15 Tour AD Di-7X
    5W: Taylormade M1 19 Tour AD Di-7X
    2i & 4i Honma TW-U Forged w/ Nippon Modus 105X
    5i-PW: Miura CB-57 w/ Nippon Modus 120X
    Wedges: 52, 56, 60 Vokey SM6
    Putter: Black Lab BL-1
    Bag: Ping Hoofer
  • RedproRedpro Members Posts: 949 ✭✭
    Have the 4-PW CB-57's and hit them on the range for the first time today. Wonderful clubs, perfect turf interaction . . . shallow half-dollar bill divot. I have the F3 95 Recoil shafts in them.



    Now community, please recommend a suitable gap wedge (50, 51 degrees) to go along with that club head style.



    Thank you!
  • HopnstopnputtHopnstopnputt ClubWRX Posts: 337 ✭✭
    edited Dec 15, 2016 #124
    With a 47* PW in the CBs you can stick with the "1957" series, and pick up a y-grind 51* or, if you prefer a little less bounce, grab a k-grind 52* and bend stronger.



    I actually game a 49* y-grind but tend to use it more when I have my stronger lofted (45* PW) OnOffs in the bag.
  • RedproRedpro Members Posts: 949 ✭✭
    edited Dec 17, 2016 #125


    With a 47* PW in the CBs you can stick with the "1957" series, and pick up a y-grind 51* or, if you prefer a little less bounce, grab a k-grind 52* and bend stronger.



    I actually game a 49* y-grind but tend to use it more when I have my stronger lofted (45* PW) OnOffs in the bag.




    That's good advice. I'll look for one of those two.



    Meanwhile . . . love the turf interaction!!



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  • SmoothStroker81SmoothStroker81 I'd rather be driving a Kirkland Sig Members Posts: 207
    Great piercing ball flight with the CB57's and the Modus 120x's
    Driver: Taylormade M2 9.5 Rogue 125 70TX
    3W: Taylormade M2 15 Tour AD Di-7X
    5W: Taylormade M1 19 Tour AD Di-7X
    2i & 4i Honma TW-U Forged w/ Nippon Modus 105X
    5i-PW: Miura CB-57 w/ Nippon Modus 120X
    Wedges: 52, 56, 60 Vokey SM6
    Putter: Black Lab BL-1
    Bag: Ping Hoofer
  • glensmithisglensmithis GlenSmith Posts: 481
    I am thinks about putting the Fujikura MCI Black shafts in a set of CB-57's. Anyone have experience with that shaft?
  • chuckymullins38chuckymullins38 Members Posts: 10 ✭✭
    Can anyone compare the cb57 to the miura giken cb-1007 y grind ? thanks in advance.
  • MJisGOATMJisGOAT Members Posts: 4,586 ✭✭


    Can anyone compare the cb57 to the miura giken cb-1007 y grind ? thanks in advance.




    Not much to compare, the 57 is simply the North American iteration of the MG 1007. Nearly identical design with the same grind.
    Cali
    TailorMaid
    t****
    "inefficient and dead rear cavity design"
    @thereal#7
  • SmoothStroker81SmoothStroker81 I'd rather be driving a Kirkland Sig Members Posts: 207
    Do the short irons of the miura giken cb-1007 y grind also have a low trajectory?
    Driver: Taylormade M2 9.5 Rogue 125 70TX
    3W: Taylormade M2 15 Tour AD Di-7X
    5W: Taylormade M1 19 Tour AD Di-7X
    2i & 4i Honma TW-U Forged w/ Nippon Modus 105X
    5i-PW: Miura CB-57 w/ Nippon Modus 120X
    Wedges: 52, 56, 60 Vokey SM6
    Putter: Black Lab BL-1
    Bag: Ping Hoofer
  • Tcann32Tcann32 Members Posts: 3,527
    Maybe someone else will have some different input than me on them, but I've owned 2 different Miura CB's (LH CB and Miura MG CB) and two sets of MB's (LH Black Blades, and MG MB). All sets were pretty much the same, as I believe all the lefty MB's are essentially TB's with some very moderate changes, if any at all. Currently still own the long irons in the MG CB's, the full set of LH CB's and the LTD Black Blades.



    My question for anyone else that has extensively gamed the CB's and the MB's: Did you actually notice much of a difference between them? I ask this because I really don't notice any advantage to playing the CB's. Personally, I've tested the CB's against a few other sets of CB / players irons (2013 x forged, apex pros, and cobra king ltd's. The cobra's were a combo set, so I tested the mb's with my miura mb's and the CB's against my miura cb's), and have found other CB's to hold the advantages of CB's that most would want in terms of forgiveness, larger sole, size, etc, but the Miura's really only seem to launch a touch higher in the comparison of MB/CB.



    This question is really sort of limited because of my options as a lefty, so I haven't gotten to try the 501's, PP's, etc.



    This isn't a knock on Miura. I'm a true fan boy, but I was just curious if other's have come up with anything similar.
    What's actually in the bag...
    Callaway Epic SZ-9.0-Aldila X-Torsion Green Mamba-70TX
    Callaway Epic SZ 15* - PX Handcrafted Yellow 75 6.5
    Callaway Apex UT 21* - C- taper S+
    Miura LH LTD Black Blades: 3-p w/ DG TI X7's.
    Cleveland RTX 3: 50-54 w. C-Taper S+
    Scratch 1018: 58 w/ C-Taper S+
    Piretti Potenza / Odyssey MX #7

    Others gamed on occasion:
    Callaway BBA (2014)
    Callaway 13 X Forged w/ AMT X100's (hard stepped once)
    Scratch Golf 51,55,58,59
    Wilson Staff Kirk Currie Milled
  • Tcann32Tcann32 Members Posts: 3,527
    Redpro wrote:


    Have the 4-PW CB-57's and hit them on the range for the first time today. Wonderful clubs, perfect turf interaction . . . shallow half-dollar bill divot. I have the F3 95 Recoil shafts in them.



    Now community, please recommend a suitable gap wedge (50, 51 degrees) to go along with that club head style.



    Thank you!




    The first flushed shot, namely the turf interaction and how solid the ball flight is, spells disaster for anyone who has tried Miura's and was even considering using a different club ever again. lol
    What's actually in the bag...
    Callaway Epic SZ-9.0-Aldila X-Torsion Green Mamba-70TX
    Callaway Epic SZ 15* - PX Handcrafted Yellow 75 6.5
    Callaway Apex UT 21* - C- taper S+
    Miura LH LTD Black Blades: 3-p w/ DG TI X7's.
    Cleveland RTX 3: 50-54 w. C-Taper S+
    Scratch 1018: 58 w/ C-Taper S+
    Piretti Potenza / Odyssey MX #7

    Others gamed on occasion:
    Callaway BBA (2014)
    Callaway 13 X Forged w/ AMT X100's (hard stepped once)
    Scratch Golf 51,55,58,59
    Wilson Staff Kirk Currie Milled
  • RedproRedpro Members Posts: 949 ✭✭
    I asked an eBay seller about the Vega VC-01 irons compared to the Miura CB 57's, which I own. Here is my question and his answer:



    Are the leading ledge of these irons rather "sharp" or more rounded? I have a set of Miura CB-57's and they are a bit sharp. Looking for advice and experience with these regarding turf interaction. The irons you have for sale look great, and tempting.



    Here in Texas we play mostly firm conditions and we need a bit of relief at the leading edge.



    Thank you.




    His answer:





    [background=rgb(249, 249, 249)]Keep the 57's, Miura irons are great. You can round the leading edges of the irons by sanding them with something like a 4" wide bench sander. Like those sold at Harbor Freight. Don't worry about the value as someone will always buy them or you can have them refinished by a man in Colorado.[/background]



    [background=rgb(249, 249, 249)]It sounds like you need to flatten your swing. You can do this by standing further away from the ball at address. Also go back low and slow and come through low and slow. Play only half swings with the short irons 7-PW at least for a time. When you make your practice swings before hitting the ball, do so alongside the ball. Make sure that you bottom-out before the ball with the practice swing, between the ball and the target.[/background]



    [background=rgb(249, 249, 249)]I hope this helps. These Vegas are a little difficult to hit and you would not better yourself by buying them.[/background]



    [background=rgb(249, 249, 249)]Comments? [/background]
  • Tcann32 wrote:

    Redpro wrote:


    Have the 4-PW CB-57's and hit them on the range for the first time today. Wonderful clubs, perfect turf interaction . . . shallow half-dollar bill divot. I have the F3 95 Recoil shafts in them.



    Now community, please recommend a suitable gap wedge (50, 51 degrees) to go along with that club head style.



    Thank you!




    The first flushed shot, namely the turf interaction and how solid the ball flight is, spells disaster for anyone who has tried Miura's and was even considering using a different club ever again. lol






    I agree on that first flushed shot. First time I hit Miura's I was only visiting a fitter for what I assumed would be a re-shaft/adjustment of the irons I had at the time. It was the first time I saw the Miura's in real life, so while he was in the back room I grabbed a demo and started hitting it. Ooops. Took the Tuning Fork in my loins thing Tin Cup was talking about to a whole new level.

    Unfortunately I sold them a couple years ago, but thinking I'm going to have to go back.
  • MJisGOATMJisGOAT Members Posts: 4,586 ✭✭
    Redpro wrote:


    I asked an eBay seller about the Vega VC-01 irons compared to the Miura CB 57's, which I own. Here is my question and his answer:



    Are the leading ledge of these irons rather "sharp" or more rounded? I have a set of Miura CB-57's and they are a bit sharp. Looking for advice and experience with these regarding turf interaction. The irons you have for sale look great, and tempting.



    Here in Texas we play mostly firm conditions and we need a bit of relief at the leading edge.



    Thank you.




    His answer:





    [background=rgb(249, 249, 249)]Keep the 57's, Miura irons are great. You can round the leading edges of the irons by sanding them with something like a 4" wide bench sander. Like those sold at Harbor Freight. Don't worry about the value as someone will always buy them or you can have them refinished by a man in Colorado.[/background]



    [background=rgb(249, 249, 249)]It sounds like you need to flatten your swing. You can do this by standing further away from the ball at address. Also go back low and slow and come through low and slow. Play only half swings with the short irons 7-PW at least for a time. When you make your practice swings before hitting the ball, do so alongside the ball. Make sure that you bottom-out before the ball with the practice swing, between the ball and the target.[/background]



    [background=rgb(249, 249, 249)]I hope this helps. These Vegas are a little difficult to hit and you would not better yourself by buying them.[/background]



    [background=rgb(249, 249, 249)]Comments? [/background]




    Sounds like a genuine and sincere seller here, but the only advice I'd heed is keeping the Miura. I play in soft conditions and don't notice any issues with the leading edges being sharp on my 57s. In fact I think they're about perfect for nearly any and all playing conditions. I'd think you'd want a sharper leading edge playing in dryer and tighter conditions?!
    Cali
    TailorMaid
    t****
    "inefficient and dead rear cavity design"
    @thereal#7
  • RedproRedpro Members Posts: 949 ✭✭
    edited Mar 8, 2017 #136
    MJisGOAT wrote:

    Redpro wrote:


    I asked an eBay seller about the Vega VC-01 irons compared to the Miura CB 57's, which I own. Here is my question and his answer:



    Are the leading ledge of these irons rather "sharp" or more rounded? I have a set of Miura CB-57's and they are a bit sharp. Looking for advice and experience with these regarding turf interaction. The irons you have for sale look great, and tempting.



    Here in Texas we play mostly firm conditions and we need a bit of relief at the leading edge.



    Thank you.




    His answer:





    [background=rgb(249, 249, 249)]Keep the 57's, Miura irons are great. You can round the leading edges of the irons by sanding them with something like a 4" wide bench sander. Like those sold at Harbor Freight. Don't worry about the value as someone will always buy them or you can have them refinished by a man in Colorado.[/background]



    [background=rgb(249, 249, 249)]It sounds like you need to flatten your swing. You can do this by standing further away from the ball at address. Also go back low and slow and come through low and slow. Play only half swings with the short irons 7-PW at least for a time. When you make your practice swings before hitting the ball, do so alongside the ball. Make sure that you bottom-out before the ball with the practice swing, between the ball and the target.[/background]



    [background=rgb(249, 249, 249)]I hope this helps. These Vegas are a little difficult to hit and you would not better yourself by buying them.[/background]



    [background=rgb(249, 249, 249)]Comments? [/background]




    Sounds like a genuine and sincere seller here, but the only advice I'd heed is keeping the Miura. I play in soft conditions and don't notice any issues with the leading edges being sharp on my 57s. In fact I think they're about perfect for nearly any and all playing conditions. I'd think you'd want a sharper leading edge playing in dryer and tighter conditions?!




    Thanks MJ. True about the 57's playability. I have the Vega VC-01 8-iron head that I'll shaft up and see for myself. Now, about standing further away from the ball . . .image/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />
    Post edited by Unknown User on
  • lumberman2462lumberman2462 Members Posts: 5,325 ✭✭
    Redpro wrote:

    MJisGOAT wrote:

    Redpro wrote:


    I asked an eBay seller about the Vega VC-01 irons compared to the Miura CB 57's, which I own. Here is my question and his answer:



    Are the leading ledge of these irons rather "sharp" or more rounded? I have a set of Miura CB-57's and they are a bit sharp. Looking for advice and experience with these regarding turf interaction. The irons you have for sale look great, and tempting.



    Here in Texas we play mostly firm conditions and we need a bit of relief at the leading edge.



    Thank you.




    His answer:





    [background=rgb(249, 249, 249)]Keep the 57's, Miura irons are great. You can round the leading edges of the irons by sanding them with something like a 4" wide bench sander. Like those sold at Harbor Freight. Don't worry about the value as someone will always buy them or you can have them refinished by a man in Colorado.[/background]



    [background=rgb(249, 249, 249)]It sounds like you need to flatten your swing. You can do this by standing further away from the ball at address. Also go back low and slow and come through low and slow. Play only half swings with the short irons 7-PW at least for a time. When you make your practice swings before hitting the ball, do so alongside the ball. Make sure that you bottom-out before the ball with the practice swing, between the ball and the target.[/background]



    [background=rgb(249, 249, 249)]I hope this helps. These Vegas are a little difficult to hit and you would not better yourself by buying them.[/background]



    [background=rgb(249, 249, 249)]Comments? [/background]




    Sounds like a genuine and sincere seller here, but the only advice I'd heed is keeping the Miura. I play in soft conditions and don't notice any issues with the leading edges being sharp on my 57s. In fact I think they're about perfect for nearly any and all playing conditions. I'd think you'd want a sharper leading edge playing in dryer and tighter conditions?!




    Thanks MJ. True about the 57's playability. I have the Vega VC-01 8-iron head that I'll shaft up and see for myself. Now, about standing further away from the ball . . . image/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />




    It's not often you get swing advice from someone trying to sell golf clubs. Probably a nice guy but that gave me a chuckle.



    It would have been even better if he advised calling up Bob Rotella and getting some 'Golf Therapy'



    Turf interaction hasn't been an issue with my 57s.



    PS: I always think people are standing too far away from the ball.
    SYard T388
    TaylorMade RBZ 13-15
    Miura CB-57 3-PW
    Miura 51Y, 52K,56K, 57C, 60K
    Old Titleist Blade
  • RedproRedpro Members Posts: 949 ✭✭

    Redpro wrote:

    MJisGOAT wrote:

    Redpro wrote:


    I asked an eBay seller about the Vega VC-01 irons compared to the Miura CB 57's, which I own. Here is my question and his answer:



    Are the leading ledge of these irons rather "sharp" or more rounded? I have a set of Miura CB-57's and they are a bit sharp. Looking for advice and experience with these regarding turf interaction. The irons you have for sale look great, and tempting.



    Here in Texas we play mostly firm conditions and we need a bit of relief at the leading edge.



    Thank you.




    His answer:





    [background=rgb(249, 249, 249)]Keep the 57's, Miura irons are great. You can round the leading edges of the irons by sanding them with something like a 4" wide bench sander. Like those sold at Harbor Freight. Don't worry about the value as someone will always buy them or you can have them refinished by a man in Colorado.[/background]



    [background=rgb(249, 249, 249)]It sounds like you need to flatten your swing. You can do this by standing further away from the ball at address. Also go back low and slow and come through low and slow. Play only half swings with the short irons 7-PW at least for a time. When you make your practice swings before hitting the ball, do so alongside the ball. Make sure that you bottom-out before the ball with the practice swing, between the ball and the target.[/background]



    [background=rgb(249, 249, 249)]I hope this helps. These Vegas are a little difficult to hit and you would not better yourself by buying them.[/background]



    [background=rgb(249, 249, 249)]Comments? [/background]




    Sounds like a genuine and sincere seller here, but the only advice I'd heed is keeping the Miura. I play in soft conditions and don't notice any issues with the leading edges being sharp on my 57s. In fact I think they're about perfect for nearly any and all playing conditions. I'd think you'd want a sharper leading edge playing in dryer and tighter conditions?!




    Thanks MJ. True about the 57's playability. I have the Vega VC-01 8-iron head that I'll shaft up and see for myself. Now, about standing further away from the ball . . . image/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />




    It's not often you get swing advice from someone trying to sell golf clubs. Probably a nice guy but that gave me a chuckle.



    It would have been even better if he advised calling up Bob Rotella and getting some 'Golf Therapy'



    Turf interaction hasn't been an issue with my 57s.



    PS: I always think people are standing too far away from the ball.




    grin.



    Had I not said just a "thank you" to his answer, I'm sure a Rotella referral would have come in response. Too funny when he did say, essentially, "don't buy these clubs". Agree, we do stand too far away from the ball.
  • gambitgambit Members Posts: 4,174 ✭✭
    I have a set of 57s. With all the rain we've gotten in NorCal the courses have been really wet and soggy, and I haven't had an issue with turf interaction.
  • kekoakekoa ClubWRX Posts: 8,785 ClubWRX
    anyone own a set of the Black Boron cb-57's. Just curious if wear is any better or worse than say a pvd finish.



    I've been a blade player forever and over the last year really enjoy the 57's, but also want a black set as back up.
  • Pieter PPieter P Posts: 85 ✭✭
    Tcann32 wrote:


    Maybe someone else will have some different input than me on them, but I've owned 2 different Miura CB's (LH CB and Miura MG CB) and two sets of MB's (LH Black Blades, and MG MB). All sets were pretty much the same, as I believe all the lefty MB's are essentially TB's with some very moderate changes, if any at all. Currently still own the long irons in the MG CB's, the full set of LH CB's and the LTD Black Blades.



    My question for anyone else that has extensively gamed the CB's and the MB's: Did you actually notice much of a difference between them? I ask this because I really don't notice any advantage to playing the CB's. Personally, I've tested the CB's against a few other sets of CB / players irons (2013 x forged, apex pros, and cobra king ltd's. The cobra's were a combo set, so I tested the mb's with my miura mb's and the CB's against my miura cb's), and have found other CB's to hold the advantages of CB's that most would want in terms of forgiveness, larger sole, size, etc, but the Miura's really only seem to launch a touch higher in the comparison of MB/CB.



    This question is really sort of limited because of my options as a lefty, so I haven't gotten to try the 501's, PP's, etc.



    This isn't a knock on Miura. I'm a true fan boy, but I was just curious if other's have come up with anything similar.
    Different experience for me.

    Extensively gamed MB001(one season) followed by CB57 (one season) and 4 months of Baby Blades in-between.

    CB 57 the most forgiving of the lot, best dispersion on the course and on GC2, hit more greens with it, scores are better. 501's does not play well in my hands at all.

    MB001's are also fantastic, but slightly harder to score with. Better workability than the 57's. Really struggle with the 57's to hit the big curves when needed.

    Baby blades - the iron equivalent of the SLDR driver. The good shots are the best feeling ever, but the bad ones terrible. Scoring is 3 shots worse a round on average with the BB. I look at them and polish them, but does not play them when serious golf is being played.
  • copegolfercopegolfer Members Posts: 204 ✭✭
    Different comparison, but I'll add my thoughts.

    Yesterday I played my first round with my new MB-001 irons.

    I can't begin to describe how awesome and beautiful these are to play. But, being in this thread I'm sure everyone is aware...



    I came from Mizuno MP-64 irons. I was worried about playing a blade, but the MB-001 were virtually no different or more difficult to hit.

    If I put a bad swing or strike on it I was penalized, but I expected that even with the mizzys.



    Basically the MB-001 aren't going anywhere for along time.



    Note: I'm about a 10 handicap
    Cobra F9 10.5 Atmos TS Black 60X
    Cobra F8 3/4 (14.5) NV 2KXV Blue 80X
    Cobra Baffler 18.5 NV 2KXV Blue 80X
    Miura MB001 4-PW KBS Tour X +1/2"
    SM6 52 F Grind, 56 & 60 M Grind
    EvnRoll ER8 mallet
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