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  • MtlJeffMtlJeff MontrealMembers Posts: 28,708 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭
    Sheamus wins money in the bank.....



    He's an awesome heel man. Glad to see him getting this push. I thought they'd give him the IC title at Elimination chamber...when they didn't i thought maybe MITB instead, which it turned out to be
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  • shakeyshakey OvenWRX 1 Members Posts: 5,808 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭
    MtlJeff wrote:
    Sheamus wins money in the bank.....



    He's an awesome heel man. Glad to see him getting this push. I thought they'd give him the IC title at Elimination chamber...when they didn't i thought maybe MITB instead, which it turned out to be


    I figured Reigns would win and then cash in on Rollins at the end of the night. Or they let Ambrose win and then Reigns cashes in and turns heel. Wrong on both accounts.
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  • MtlJeffMtlJeff MontrealMembers Posts: 28,708 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭
    Reigns is still getting booed too much to give him another title shot. It's too bad because I think he's great. The fans just are set that he doesn't deserve it because he's not an indie guy...at least some fans. He was mostly over, but yesterday got booed again.



    You're right though, maybe the best thing to do is turn him. Otherwise he has to just keep putting on great matches until they finally fully accept him



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  • mzennario31mzennario31 Members Posts: 283 ✭✭✭✭
    I don't think they necessarily need to turn him, but I think put him in some feuds against guys that have some real heat. putting him against the Big Show or Kane is useless because no one cares about those guys anymore and no one believes they can win. Maybe put him against Rusev when he comes back. A feud against Bray Wyatt could be interesting.
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  • nickham10nickham10 Members Posts: 328 ✭✭
    Cena vs Owens 2 was awesome last night, match of the year candidate.
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  • MtlJeffMtlJeff MontrealMembers Posts: 28,708 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭
    Me and my friends called both Cena/Owens matches as "the feud of 1000 kickouts"



    They have been amazing...but man, a lot of kickouts lol
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  • ptjn1201ptjn1201 Members Posts: 1,195 ✭✭✭✭✭✭
    MtlJeff -- are you too young for Iron Mike Sharpe, Canada's Greatest Athlete? He was always fun to watch in the 80s and 90s -- they used him as a jobber but they'd let him win now and then when they taped up in Canada. He always put up a good fight and had an injured arm for ten years with a brace on it, always suggested it contained a foreign object. He was always in great shape, too, especially for the times.
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  • MtlJeffMtlJeff MontrealMembers Posts: 28,708 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭
    ptjn1201 wrote:


    MtlJeff -- are you too young for Iron Mike Sharpe, Canada's Greatest Athlete? He was always fun to watch in the 80s and 90s -- they used him as a jobber but they'd let him win now and then when they taped up in Canada. He always put up a good fight and had an injured arm for ten years with a brace on it, always suggested it contained a foreign object. He was always in great shape, too, especially for the times.




    Too young unfortunately! I watched it i think starting in the early 90's IIRC. Maybe a couple of years before the Bret Hart title runs and the Yokozuna/Luger feud. I remember when Razor Ramon made his debut...so must've been 1992 ish
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  • MtlJeffMtlJeff MontrealMembers Posts: 28,708 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭
    i'm a little dissapointed in what's leading up to Battleground. They can't give the title to Brock Lesnar because his appearances are limited so it makes it tough for them to get him into feuds. Though Rollins is great so him keeping it is fine. I'm not sure what Ambrose is doing, Reigns is in a go-nowhere feud with Bray Wyatt in another attempt to get him over, Cena/Owens put on great matches but this smells of Cena/Rusev all over again. Ryback/Show/Miz is brutal but i understand the Bryan/Rusev injuries factored into all of this. Sheamus has the MITB, hopefully he gets a good matchup there



    Just seems like there's not much going on
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  • CBJCBJ Members Posts: 1,190 ✭✭✭✭✭✭
    Agreed, Battleground has the makings of being a disappointment.



    Probably could do without this pay per view.....
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  • MtlJeffMtlJeff MontrealMembers Posts: 28,708 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭
    I liked the Rollins "price is right" thing yesterday. Rollins really is the highest potential guy in the business right now. I think he face turns within about 6 months, he's just too valuable to keep as a heel, when they can make a lot of merchandise off him as a good guy



    Me and my friends have a theory that Reigns basically has 6-9 months or so to fully get himself over , otherwise he's going heel and Rollins is turning face. I think Rollins will become a good guy regardless (once Kevin Owens , Sheamus and Rusev fully establish themselves as dominant top tier bad guys).



    Rollins will be a great good guy one day. He has very solid mic skills and puts on excellent matches



    I'd also like to see Cody Rhodes get a gimmick change given everything that's happened. He puts on really good matches too, and he could play a Rollins'ish arrogant heel, in fact he already has
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  • gongshow!gongshow! Wheelin' & Dealin' Members Posts: 1,017 ✭✭
    http://www.si.com/extra-mustard/2015/06/18/wwe-bret-hart-john-cena-brock-lesnar-daniel-bryan



    Great article on one of my favorite wrestler of all time.



    I just catch up with wrestling few months ago after +10 years without watching it and I love it. I left when Vince bought the WCW and split Raw and Smackdown. Monday Night War was the best. The feuds and storylines was the best.



    Today, I think the best character is by far Bray Wyatt. This guy has so much potential.



    What the **** is going on with Kane? He's corporate now? Coming from a character who was supposed to be burned and speechless, this is hard to believe (character-wise)
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  • TheGameChangerTheGameChanger Members Posts: 754


    http://www.si.com/ex...ar-daniel-bryan



    Great article on one of my favorite wrestler of all time.



    I just catch up with wrestling few months ago after +10 years without watching it and I love it. I left when Vince bought the WCW and split Raw and Smackdown. Monday Night War was the best. The feuds and storylines was the best.



    Today, I think the best character is by far Bray Wyatt. This guy has so much potential.



    What the **** is going on with Kane? He's corporate now? Coming from a character who was supposed to be burned and speechless, this is hard to believe (character-wise)




    I Liked Him as Husky Harris in NXT. However his taken it to another level. My 2nd Favourite guy from NXT ERA. Derrick Bateman (EC3) is Number 1.
  • shakeyshakey OvenWRX 1 Members Posts: 5,808 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭
    Shocked that Finn Balor beat KO for the NXT title. Really figured KO and Samoa Joe would battle for that. Looks like Cena will lose the title soon.
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  • shakeyshakey OvenWRX 1 Members Posts: 5,808 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭
    [url="http://www.si.com/extra-mustard/2015/06/18/wwe-bret-hart-john-cena-brock-lesnar-daniel-bryan"]http://www.si.com/extra-mustard/2015/06/18/wwe-bret-hart-john-cena-brock-lesnar-daniel-bryan[/url]



    Great article on one of my favorite wrestler of all time.



    I just catch up with wrestling few months ago after +10 years without watching it and I love it. I left when Vince bought the WCW and split Raw and Smackdown. Monday Night War was the best. The feuds and storylines was the best.



    Today, I think the best character is by far Bray Wyatt. This guy has so much potential.



    What the **** is going on with Kane? He's corporate now? Coming from a character who was supposed to be burned and speechless, this is hard to believe (character-wise)


    To me...Bray is the second best guy in wrestling right now at selling his promos. Nobody beats Paul Heyman.
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  • MtlJeffMtlJeff MontrealMembers Posts: 28,708 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭
    shakey wrote:


    Shocked that Finn Balor beat KO for the NXT title. Really figured KO and Samoa Joe would battle for that. Looks like Cena will lose the title soon.




    Owens is full time main roster now, they had to pass the title on. I'm hoping they promote Sami Zayn directly up too once he's healthy, because that could be Owens next feud.



    The good thing is the NXT champ is always the next promo... And Finn Balor needs to be a main roster guy too
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  • MtlJeffMtlJeff MontrealMembers Posts: 28,708 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭
    Ratings not so good so they're pulling out all the stops....Cena/Rollins champ vs champ at Summerslam, Undertaker back early, rumor is Sting will be also there possibly in the Ambrose/Reigns camp against the Wyatt family



    I'm liking the Rusev/Ziggler feud with Summer Rae and Lana too. There's a rumor that Owens/Cesaro might happen which could be the match of the night excitement wise. Cesaro has had a great month



    I wish Sheamus had something better going, but Randy Orton is a solid feud



    Summerslam shaping up really nice



    I don't care what anyone says, i like John Cena. In the past 6 months he's got probably 4-5 out of the top 10 matches
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  • shakeyshakey OvenWRX 1 Members Posts: 5,808 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭
    Any match with Cesaro lately has been good.
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  • dan360dan360 Paisano Members Posts: 5,410 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭
    Bray Wyatt is one of those guys who needs to be in a year long feud. Allow them to build it up to epic proportions. ala Jake the Snake, Harley Race, guys who could tell a real story.



    It's a lost art and shoving six week feuds at us to tell half a** PPVs is diluting the product. Money over quality is their new motto. But people also are too lazy to get into a long feud. They want the entire storyline told one 3 episodes of Raw. Dumb. But whatever.



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  • MtlJeffMtlJeff MontrealMembers Posts: 28,708 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭
    dan360 wrote:


    Bray Wyatt is one of those guys who needs to be in a year long feud. Allow them to build it up to epic proportions. ala Jake the Snake, Harley Race, guys who could tell a real story.



    It's a lost art and shoving six week feuds at us to tell half a** PPVs is diluting the product. Money over quality is their new motto. But people also are too lazy to get into a long feud. They want the entire storyline told one 3 episodes of Raw. Dumb. But whatever.




    I think the Reigns thing will get a good investment. There will be another match at Summerslam though probably teams, which means there will probably also be a payoff singles match down the line.



    It's good for Reigns too to be out of the title picture for now, until he is fully over
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    Most of you are not old enough to remember these - Danny Hodge, Bolo, Gorgeous George.



    My dad worked construction all his life and worked hard so I know he was tired.



    But every Tuesday night he set his alarm for 3:00 A.M. to watch rasslin. Incredible.
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  • shakeyshakey OvenWRX 1 Members Posts: 5,808 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭
    Watching Raw last night...it hit me that Seth Rollins and Chris Benoit (in his prime) would have been a good rivalry. Both guys are/were great in the ring.
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  • MtlJeffMtlJeff MontrealMembers Posts: 28,708 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭
    I was just happy they let Rollins look good in the ring for a change. He is so good...but lately his character is such a chump.



    They've really put him in a tough position. And themselves too...their best in ring performer (arguably) is saddled by a character who can't get offense in
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  • MtlJeffMtlJeff MontrealMembers Posts: 28,708 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭
    Rollins should hopefully get some good ones in with Cena, though.



    If he stays heel a great rivalry would be Sami Zayn too... would have to be a bit in the future. But Zayn is a high flyer who isn't much smaller then Rollins, plus they know each other well in real life
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  • dan360dan360 Paisano Members Posts: 5,410 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭
    Just when you think WWE Creative has it in the bag, they throw the bag up in the air, run around like a Ooompa Looompah, then it escapes the bag, and they blame it for not staying in the bag.



    ???????????????????????????????????????????????



    They can F up a wet dream, those people.
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  • shakeyshakey OvenWRX 1 Members Posts: 5,808 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭
    edited Jul 29, 2015 #57
    dan360 wrote:
    Just when you think WWE Creative has it in the bag, they throw the bag up in the air, run around like a Ooompa Looompah, then it escapes the bag, and they blame it for not staying in the bag.



    ???????????????????????????????????????????????



    They can F up a wet dream, those people.


    TNA is so much worse. They can't keep anything going strong for more than two weeks.
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  • dan360dan360 Paisano Members Posts: 5,410 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭
    shakey wrote:

    dan360 wrote:
    Just when you think WWE Creative has it in the bag, they throw the bag up in the air, run around like a Ooompa Looompah, then it escapes the bag, and they blame it for not staying in the bag.



    ???????????????????????????????????????????????



    They can F up a wet dream, those people.


    TNA is so much worse. They can't keep anything going strong for more than two weeks.




    It went downhill as soon as Vince Russo and Bischoff showed up, and it'll never recover. WCW all over again.



    The Ring of Honor shows and that new Lucha Underground on El Rey are pretty cool.
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  • shakeyshakey OvenWRX 1 Members Posts: 5,808 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭
    edited Jul 29, 2015 #59
    dan360 wrote:
    shakey wrote:

    dan360 wrote:
    Just when you think WWE Creative has it in the bag, they throw the bag up in the air, run around like a Ooompa Looompah, then it escapes the bag, and they blame it for not staying in the bag.



    ???????????????????????????????????????????????



    They can F up a wet dream, those people.


    TNA is so much worse. They can't keep anything going strong for more than two weeks.




    It went downhill as soon as Vince Russo and Bischoff showed up, and it'll never recover. WCW all over again.



    The Ring of Honor shows and that new Lucha Underground on El Rey are pretty cool.


    I love Lucha Underground. Can't wait for tonight.



    I wish Austin Aries and The Wolves would move over to the WWE. TNA is hard to watch. Dixie Carter should NEVER be in the ring talking. It's horrible.
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  • dan360dan360 Paisano Members Posts: 5,410 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭
    shakey wrote:

    dan360 wrote:
    shakey wrote:

    dan360 wrote:
    Just when you think WWE Creative has it in the bag, they throw the bag up in the air, run around like a Ooompa Looompah, then it escapes the bag, and they blame it for not staying in the bag.



    ???????????????????????????????????????????????



    They can F up a wet dream, those people.


    TNA is so much worse. They can't keep anything going strong for more than two weeks.




    It went downhill as soon as Vince Russo and Bischoff showed up, and it'll never recover. WCW all over again.



    The Ring of Honor shows and that new Lucha Underground on El Rey are pretty cool.


    I love Lucha Underground. Can't wait for tonight.



    I wish Austin Aries and The Wolves would move over to the WWE. TNA is hard to watch. Dixie Carter should NEVER be in the ring talking. It's horrible.




    Austin Aries could legitimately take the ball from CM Punk and run with it. Dixie is....well.....ya.....can't watch it.
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  • MtlJeffMtlJeff MontrealMembers Posts: 28,708 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭
    Every time i see Seth Rollins i get more and more upset with what WWE is doing to him. He's probably the most talented guy on the roster and they have him running away from people and jobbing to John Cena, Dean Ambrose, J&J etc...



    It's his character i get it....but i wish he'd get to play a character who got offense in every now and then
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