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  • king_biscuitking_biscuit Members Posts: 1,029
    Golf would survive if he took US Open week off from now on.
  • BCULAWBCULAW Orlando, FLMembers Posts: 3,668 ✭✭
    I don't have a huge problem with the interview, but he looked like a clown out on the course dancing around with all the theatrics. He was running hot for 18 holes. Hard to compete when the course is in your head that much. He played a heck of a round today. Makes you wonder what he would have done with the proper mindset.
  • bscinstnctbscinstnct Members Posts: 26,672 ✭✭
    dam276 wrote:


    The existence of this thread is proof Fox got what they wanted. Leave BillyHo alone, he's usually one the good guys and was pi$$ed walking off a disappointing weekend.



    All of you clowns criticizing should think of an analogy for your own lives:

    Let's say you work on a computer daily. You're used to having something reasonably current - more than quick enough to keep up with whatever menial tasks you perform. Now let's say a week before quarter-end you have a "major" (see what I did there:) ) project due. Now instead of your normal PC I swap it out for an old Pentium 1. Sure, you can still do your job. Sure, the star employees are going to get their work done. But wouldn't you be just a little annoyed that one of the 4 weeks out of the year that you know is going to be critical to your success is now going to be that much harder because of something beyond your control?



    ::Steps off soap box::




    Good point but think of all the totally "unfair", crazy, lying, bs, last minute total blow ups that are constantly happening to us all day long.



    Go to the partners, the boss, the client, your family and say,



    "boohooo, things are too hard, its not fair, its not my fault."



    If you dont get it done, you failed. Move on.



  • WaterboyWaterboy #TheWRX Members Posts: 1,304 ✭✭
    The guy has always been opinionated so I'm not surprised with the comments. If I remember right he went on some Twitter rant about the presidential election results a few years ago. So the opinionated personality is not shocking



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  • Frankensteins MonsterFrankensteins Monster Members Posts: 6,683 ✭✭
    edited Jun 21, 2015 #36
    He made a perfectly valid statement when he met with the media. The U.S. Open is supposed to identify the best golfers of the week. He said the USGA took out one of the skills of the game, putting, with their disastrous greens and I completely agree. Putting is like throwing a dart with a fan on the side of the dart board. There's no skill to these greens. They're a putt and pray and that does not help identify the best golfer of the week. It turned the greens into a run of the green, literally. I agree, the USGA should be ashamed of themselves. With such a beautiful course you make the greens completely stupid. Way to go USGA buffoons.
  • lchanglchang Members Posts: 567 ✭✭
    I listened to the interview and thought it was fine. Short, honest and nothing too over-the-top at all.



    Antics on the course were more noteworthy than his interview IMO.
  • VeryedVeryed Members Posts: 179 ✭✭
    edited Jun 21, 2015 #38
    Jamboy72 wrote:


    Taking the PC stance isn't always a cop out and speaking your mind isn't always the right decision - Billy seems to get these confused all the time - There's an awful lot to be said for the guy who can navigate this reality and say what needs to be said w/o coming off as an idiot...




    Well said!
  • r32r32 Members Posts: 149
    Golf needs more fiery attitudes like Billy. Otherwise it's a gentlemen's borefest. I commend him for speaking his mind.
  • bladehunterbladehunter Rain rain go the hell away ! south carolinaMembers Posts: 26,740 ✭✭
    Hawkeye03 wrote:
    jdanlaw wrote:

    prorobo wrote:


    Situation 1: Player gives cordial and vanilla corporate responses in interview ("Would've been nice to make a few more putts, just happy to be here").

    Wrx response: These guys are robots and have no personality.



    Situation 2: Player speaks their mind in the heat of the moment and essentially summarizes the vast majority of their peers' opinions.

    Wrx response: He's a tool/fool/whiny b***h/etc.



    Can't win here.




    +100




    There are ways to express displeasure without making yourself out to be a fool.






    Who is more the fool? The person who sees wrong or shortcoming and points it out so next time it can be made better. ! Or the yes man who says " everything is wonderful " so as to cover for the governing body and also pave the way for this to happen again and again. I say the latter is the true fool.
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  • lawsonmanlawsonman Members Posts: 5,334 ✭✭
    Veryed wrote:

    Jamboy72 wrote:


    Taking the PC stance isn't always a cop out and speaking your mind isn't always the right decision - Billy seems to get these confused all the time - There's an awful lot to be said for the guy who can navigate this reality and say what needs to be said w/o coming off as an idiot...




    Well said!




    What did he say that made him come off a idiot? I thought his antics on the course was over the top acting but he said nothing that most everyone else is thinking but don't have the guts to say it.
    Welcome to where dumb opinions are better than no opinion. :)

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  • bscinstnctbscinstnct Members Posts: 26,672 ✭✭
    Billy see Rory.
  • bladehunterbladehunter Rain rain go the hell away ! south carolinaMembers Posts: 26,740 ✭✭
    Those saying all should be grateful need to remember. These players make the governing bodies , promoters , sponsors and course owners a lot of money. All that they usually ask is a nice set of greens to putt on and a fair playing field. 1/4 of that was given this week. And on a course that was built for this purpose with 8 years to prepare. Every player has a right to be disappointed. And within that right is the right to voice it publicly or privately. That part also falls back to the usga. If private griping got results guys would use it. Problem is it doesn't. Only public outcry will change their ways. We have seen greens 1000 times better than this in many regular tour events this year. With much less money backing them. No excuse for playing on dirt/poa greens.
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  • lawsonmanlawsonman Members Posts: 5,334 ✭✭


    Those saying all should be grateful need to remember. These players make the governing bodies , promoters , sponsors and course owners a lot of money. All that they usually ask is a nice set of greens to putt on and a fair playing field. 1/4 of that was given this week. And on a course that was built for this purpose with 8 years to prepare. Every player has a right to be disappointed. And within that right is the right to voice it publicly or privately. That part also falls back to the usga. If private griping got results guys would use it. Problem is it doesn't. Only public outcry will change their ways. We have seen greens 1000 times better than this in many regular tour events this year. With much less money backing them. No excuse for playing on dirt/poa greens.






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    Welcome to where dumb opinions are better than no opinion. :)

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  • cxxcxx Members Posts: 3,105 ✭✭
    Jamboy72 wrote:






    Taking the PC stance isn't always a cop out.




    Yes, I'm afraid it is, if you don't believe it.
  • VeryedVeryed Members Posts: 179 ✭✭
    lawsonman wrote:

    Veryed wrote:

    Jamboy72 wrote:


    Taking the PC stance isn't always a cop out and speaking your mind isn't always the right decision - Billy seems to get these confused all the time - There's an awful lot to be said for the guy who can navigate this reality and say what needs to be said w/o coming off as an idiot...




    Well said!




    What did he say that made him come off a idiot? I thought his antics on the course was over the top acting but he said nothing that most everyone else is thinking but don't have the guts to say it.




    Didn't he say something like, "They make good putters look average and bad putters look average"?



    To me that implies perhaps some of the guys on the leader board shouldn't be there and that minimalizes their accomplishment and kind of makes you a jerk.



    Maybe idiot is too harsh, but the general sentiment that there is a right way and a wrong way to voice your complaints was well said.
  • ksgolfcoachksgolfcoach Director of Instruction at Firekeeper Golf Course Members Posts: 735 ✭✭
    Fortunately for the op he gets to make comments and call people dbags and aholes with the protection of being anonymous on a golf forum. Billy Horshel said how he felt on national tv.
  • SonnyDSonnyD Members Posts: 66
    But that leaderboard.....
  • ShankopattamusShankopattamus Members Posts: 216
    FadeOnly wrote:


    Typical Gator. image/boredom.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':boredom:' />


    Just have to say thats the best post I've ever seen on here.



    Go Dawgs!
  • Jamboy72Jamboy72 Powered by the old school Members Posts: 5,958 ✭✭
    cxx wrote:

    Jamboy72 wrote:


    Taking the PC stance isn't always a cop out.




    Yes, I'm afraid it is, if you don't believe it.




    I disagree.
  • troysbama1troysbama1 Members Posts: 167
    As it stands 4 of the top 5 on the leaderbord fall at number 10 or better in the world golf rankings. IMO, I don't think the argument this course is based totally on luck stands on a very strong foundation.
  • golfcartegolfcarte Unregistered Posts: 3,064
    anyone who watched bay hill knows they were having an issue with the greens to the point that they are being overhauled for next year. but i didn't hear any of the players criticizing arnie the way they are the usga. they are taking advantage of the fact that the usga is an organization, not a person.
  • RiskyBusinessRiskyBusiness Members Posts: 1,022 ✭✭


    Fortunately for the op he gets to make comments and call people dbags and aholes with the protection of being anonymous on a golf forum. Billy Horshel said how he felt on national tv.


    International.
  • golfcartegolfcarte Unregistered Posts: 3,064


    Fortunately for the op he gets to make comments and call people dbags and aholes with the protection of being anonymous on a golf forum. Billy Horshel said how he felt on national tv.




    finchem should fire him from the tour. how dare he!
  • MoneyPlayer33MoneyPlayer33 Members Posts: 328 ✭✭
    wobgon wrote:


    I always say, if you don't want an answer, don't ask the question.




    I agree . I hate how every-1 has to be politically correct . He doesn't like the course and I don't blame him . Why should he lie and say it's a great venue if he Dosnet believe it . I usually love the open and this course is a joke . Worst U.S. open I remember
  • Jamboy72Jamboy72 Powered by the old school Members Posts: 5,958 ✭✭
    lawsonman wrote:

    Veryed wrote:

    Jamboy72 wrote:


    Taking the PC stance isn't always a cop out and speaking your mind isn't always the right decision - Billy seems to get these confused all the time - There's an awful lot to be said for the guy who can navigate this reality and say what needs to be said w/o coming off as an idiot...




    Well said!




    What did he say that made him come off a idiot? I thought his antics on the course was over the top acting but he said nothing that most everyone else is thinking but don't have the guts to say it.




    The combination of his on course antics and what he said...have to remember the way you say something often has just as much of an impact as how you say it
  • Frankensteins MonsterFrankensteins Monster Members Posts: 6,683 ✭✭
    edited Jun 21, 2015 #57
    Jamboy72 wrote:

    lawsonman wrote:

    Veryed wrote:

    Jamboy72 wrote:


    Taking the PC stance isn't always a cop out and speaking your mind isn't always the right decision - Billy seems to get these confused all the time - There's an awful lot to be said for the guy who can navigate this reality and say what needs to be said w/o coming off as an idiot...




    Well said!




    What did he say that made him come off a idiot? I thought his antics on the course was over the top acting but he said nothing that most everyone else is thinking but don't have the guts to say it.




    The combination of his on course antics and what he said...have to remember the way you say something often has just as much of an impact as how you say it




    And sometimes you have to be blunt to get the point across and draw attention to the issue.
  • PingfitzPingfitz Members Posts: 755 ✭✭
    He gave his opinion, just like we all do here. This set up is not one of Mike Davis' best, but he continues to spin it his way.
  • WhatsinthebagWhatsinthebag Members Posts: 1,024 ✭✭
    SurfDuffer wrote:


    I agree with him.......and Gary Player.


    What's Gary Player got to with it?
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  • Hawkeye03Hawkeye03 Members Posts: 357 ✭✭

    Hawkeye03 wrote:
    jdanlaw wrote:

    prorobo wrote:


    Situation 1: Player gives cordial and vanilla corporate responses in interview ("Would've been nice to make a few more putts, just happy to be here").

    Wrx response: These guys are robots and have no personality.



    Situation 2: Player speaks their mind in the heat of the moment and essentially summarizes the vast majority of their peers' opinions.

    Wrx response: He's a tool/fool/whiny b***h/etc.



    Can't win here.




    +100




    There are ways to express displeasure without making yourself out to be a fool.






    Who is more the fool? The person who sees wrong or shortcoming and points it out so next time it can be made better. ! Or the yes man who says " everything is wonderful " so as to cover for the governing body and also pave the way for this to happen again and again. I say the latter is the true fool.




    Neither actually. The fool is the one who can't control their emotions and make coherent and logical argument. "I lost a little respect for the USGA this week" added no value to his argument and made him sound like a fool..



    He could have said "With the amount of time and resources the USGA had to get this course right. The condition of the greens was a complete disappointment/disaster/abomination/etc"....
  • SonnyDSonnyD Members Posts: 66
    I mentioned in the course thread at the time of his antics he looked like a crybaby. In fact if you saw it, especially where hi did the whole zig zag hand gesture while walking like a rooster, I think he looked more like an idiot.



    Having said that, I have no issue with his post round comments. No issues with someone speaking their mind. But the on course antics? Really, really, idiotic.
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