Now that it's legal, Going to use a rangefinder?

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Now that it's legal, Going to use a rangefinder?
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  • OaksOaks Member of #TeamJetSpeed ClubWRX Posts: 2,388 ClubWRX
    I had one down in FL and found that it hurt me more than it helped me... I guess I like my instincts better.... image/drinks.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':dntknw:' />



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  • Husky18Husky18 Pro no more Members Posts: 792
    Yes, without a doubt.
  • ajlacombeajlacombe Members Posts: 228 ✭✭
    Absolutely - been using one since 1996. Anyone that says that they are not, what do you do on a par 3 or do you step off the yardage? What is the difference? The pros have the exact yardage, they have the location of the pin, and they have the slope profile on the green. This evens it up just a bit, but their caddie and pin sheet are far more than a rangefinder.
  • JHRJHR Charter Members Posts: 4,347 ✭✭
    edited Dec 17, 2005 #5
    I don't think i would ever use one, i don't even like the GPS Yardage Systems on a cart, i still walk it off, i guess it is so much a part of my routine that i can not ever see me changing it. Give me a yardage book and i am good.
  • italianstallionitalianstallion Bethpage Black - 8th hole Junior Mod Squad Posts: 3,016 ✭✭
    Question: Are those scope/binocular rangefinders included in this rule? Just wondering. Eventually, i'll buy a rangefinder, just not now. I do really need to get more exact with my distances instead of just eyeballing it. Just asking about the scope kind because I was thinking about buying one for $20 bucks.
  • SakmanSakman @ryansako Marshals Posts: 6,292 mod
    Yeah, I'll be using one...my wife just picked me up a Pinseeker 1500 for Christmas.
  • kkherekkhere Jr. Boomers Posts: 1,138
    i dont think so. If everyone else arounds me starts using one and i feel i am at a disadvantage by not using technology to my advantage, then i will switch
  • ScottWS33ScottWS33 Up and down for par Jr. Boomers Posts: 1,379
    edited Dec 18, 2005 #9
    I wouldn't use one. I see it as a waste of money considering I am pretty good at pacing off yardages anyway. Like JHR I see pacing yardages as part of my routine and would be uncomfortable changing.
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  • GolfwolfGolfwolf Members Posts: 2,635
    I am planning on getting one for next season, either the Pinseeker or the Nikon 500G.
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  • easyyyeasyyy Founder & Still a Ho DetroitRules Official, Administrator Posts: 12,288 admin
    pinseeker with or with out slope? I dont get the pro or cons of the slope -
  • BigteeBigtee Members Posts: 87
    I think I will try it on unfamiliar courses.





























  • JohnnyJohnny Get Kwok'd Charter Members Posts: 8,706 ✭✭
    slope is a no-no rules wise...so no slope for me

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    edited Dec 25, 2005 #14
    I'm so thrilled about this new ruling, I feel it will help my game tremendously. I used to worry whether the distance was 148 yards or 150 yards, should I hit a full 6 iron or a soft 5 iron, but now with the technology of the range finder, and it becoming legall, I've finally laid that all to rest now. Either it's a full 6 iron or a soft 5 iron. image/biggrin.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':dntknw:' />
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  • larslars Members Posts: 272 ✭✭
    Johnny wrote on Dec 18 2005, 02:18 PM:


    slope is a no-no rules wise...so no slope for me




    are the bushnell rangefinders w/ slope illegal? I wasnt aware that they were not allowed.
  • JohnnyJohnny Get Kwok'd Charter Members Posts: 8,706 ✭✭
    yes slope is a no-no for 2006

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  • easyyyeasyyy Founder & Still a Ho DetroitRules Official, Administrator Posts: 12,288 admin
    lars wrote on Dec 18 2005, 07:17 PM:

    Johnny wrote on Dec 18 2005, 02:18 PM:


    slope is a no-no rules wise...so no slope for me




    are the bushnell rangefinders w/ slope illegal? I wasnt aware that they were not allowed.






    If this is true then Bushnell should call this out on their site in bold print. I was on it last week looking around for a Christmas gift and they had nothing mentioning that. All legal and green lights looking around there.
  • JohnnyJohnny Get Kwok'd Charter Members Posts: 8,706 ✭✭
    edited Dec 18, 2005 #18
    The Committee may, by Local Rule, permit the use of devices that measure distance only (i.e., the device may not be used to measure other conditions such as wind-speed or the slope of the ground). (Decision 14-3/0.5)



    14-3/0.5 Local Rule Permitting Use of Distance-Measuring Device



    Q. May a Committee, by Local Rule, permit the use of distance-measuring devices?

    A. Yes. A Committee may establish a Local Rule allowing players to use devices that measure distance only. However, the use of devices that gauge or measure other conditions that might affect a player’s play (e.g., wind or gradient) is not permitted. In the absence of such a Local Rule, the use of a distance-measuring device would be contrary to Rule 14-3. (New)







    NOW I am 100% sure.. slope is no good I bolded the part you need to know. I agree all BUSHNELL should make that very clear on their website.

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  • ramsey_steveramsey_steve Members Posts: 255
    Bought the Nikon 500g earlier this year, but don't use it much on my home course. Great when playing somewhere unfamiliar. Much quicker than searching around for sprinkler heads.
  • the_krulatzthe_krulatz Members Posts: 526
    No, I don't think I'll be using a range finder. If the golf course is anything of decent condition, it should be fairly well marked. Besides, as a lot of other people mentioned, I base a shot off the distanced walked as well as how it looks. When know purely the distance and rely solely on that, I think you forget about the other variables. So with that, I think I'll be staying away from the rangefinders.
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  • larslars Members Posts: 272 ✭✭
    I currently have one and use it pretty much to double check marked yardages in practice rounds, and at my home course when I am dialing in 100 and in play. i may carry one in competition, but not sure how much it will be used.
  • oldpalchampoldpalchamp Members Posts: 1,205 ✭✭
    I will probably get a sky caddie or some other GPS device, not so much for yardage to the green, but for the yardage to any hazards off the tee. That's where I think these devices become valuable. Almost every course is well marked to the center of the green, but how many are marked for distance off the tee to a fairway bunker, or a pond? I think this ruling by the USGA could be huge.
  • JuiceManJuiceMan Members Posts: 34
    What about the use of a Sky Caddie? image/cool.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':dntknw:' />
  • Cameron Circle TCameron Circle T The Doc Junior Mod Squad Posts: 2,210 ✭✭
    No I won't be using one, you have to keep in mind this allows for a local rule to allow the use of these such measuring devices (I do use bushnells in practice rounds to draw out yardage books) however; after reading it appears as though any serious tournament will still follow strict usga rules and will therefore not permit the use of the range finder under said local rule. I know none of the usga sanctioned amateur events, or anything along those lines will permit it and neither will any of the college tournaments, so do keep in mind that the local rule must be in effect for it to even be considered a thought as to whether or not you will use one. For this reason I wont be using a rangefinder during competition. Just remember everyone check b4 you use them bc it is a local rule.
  • gslabbertgslabbert Senior Tour Hack !! Members Posts: 364
    I have both the skycaddie and a Bushnell range finder. I like the skyCaddie if the course is charted properly, but I still have to do some work with it. I found that the course I went to Senior Euro Q-School this was not available on the Skycaddie so it was of no help during my practice round. Also the Skycaddie once you have bought your unit you have to pay each year to renew your service and download courses. There are competing devices to Skycaddie. When I went to play Pebble Beach, my Skycaddie was no use to me as I could not get the map from Skygolf as they were not contracted with Pebble to provide the course map even though they had one. Pebble had a different GPS system that they wanted me to use at their own special fee. Now that the GPS systems are legal you are going to see this more and more, it becomes a revenue point for golf courses.



    The Bushnell rangefinder (Non slope unit which is illegal) is much easier to use but you can pick up the trees behind the flag, or something it sees that you dont see, then your yardages are off. I had a 40 yard shot to a tucked pin once in a tournament (Tightlies allowed yardage devices) and the range finder gave me 65 yards, So I hit it 65 and landed in the lake behind the flag. Not good.



    In the USA most of the newer courses have very good yardages, I have found the older courses, quite a few of the private courses, have few markers or only 100, 150, 200 in the middle of the fairway. Many are starting to rely on the GPS system on the cart. You watch in the next 10 years very few new courses will have yardage markers, especially with courses catering more to the recreational golfer and making golf carts mandatory. In my part of Florida is is becoming increasingly difficult to play a course and be allowed to walk. Pace of play is one problem, and the income courses are making off the cart fees is another. $30 for 2 people to rent a cart for 18 holes, I can rent a car with unlimited mileage through Hertz for less.



    In Portugal I found the there were very few yardage markers on the courses, but the players there are accustomed to walking so the hustle around the course and finding the yardages does not slow down play.



    In South Africa the course I belonged to (Port Elizabeth Golf Club) added yardage markers to the sprinklers by attaching aluminum plates to the sprinklers, only to find that inside a month they had been stolen and apparently sold for the value of the metal.



    Sorry about being long winded, but will I use a range finder, absolutely yes, besides it does speed up play. by about 10 minutes per side, according to stats.



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  • animalisticanimalistic 7th Hole Ballybunion !! Jr. Boomers Posts: 1,235
    no prefer to play the course by feel and factor in wind etc. in my mind
  • GooseGoose Junior Mod Squad Posts: 1,270 ✭✭
    il be getting the bushnell 1500 whatever so i can make yardage books in practice rounds for tourneys.







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  • bjacksonbjackson Win The Day Marshals Posts: 5,689 mod
    with slope is illegal, no slope is okay according to ?golf digest?--think thats where i heard it...
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    Goose wrote on Jan 1 2006, 06&#58;06 PM:


    il be getting the bushnell 1500 whatever so i can make yardage books in practice rounds for tourneys.







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    Same here Goose! I think it will help a ton during practice rounds.
  • GooseGoose Junior Mod Squad Posts: 1,270 ✭✭
    bjackson wrote on Jan 1 2006, 07&#58;02 PM:


    with slope is illegal, no slope is okay according to ?golf digest?--think thats where i heard it...




    Doesnt matter for me slope or no slope bc in tourneys they strill wont be allowed...id only be using it for practice rounds.







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  • golf9596golf9596 Members Posts: 2,080 ✭✭
    I have been using a Bushnell for the past two seasons during practice rounds. Now that they are legal I will use them when ever I'm allowed, just to confirm what I am seeing. I found that my calculations and the Bushnells readings were only a yard or two different( I'm not that good to notice a big advantage). I think the range finders biggest advantage is in determining the yardage to hazards and total carry distances.
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