Dynamic Gold X7 Question

Hi all,

I've been playing with an older set of Dynamic Gold x7's in my irons for a while. I was planning on upgrading my irons since I got them used and they weren't in particularly good shape to begin with. I was just going to leave my old irons (with the old x7s) assembled as a backup set and get a set of the newer x7's to install. Then I saw the new ones have a big tour issue logo on them that my older ones don't have.

Is it safe to assume that I'm going to be getting the same shaft with a new fancy logo? Or does anyone know if they've changed them from the ones you could get before they started selling them again (I think it was late last year / early this year when they added them back to the lineup). It's probably a little bit of overkill, I doubt they would have changed them too much if at all, I just know the old ones work well for me.

Sorry if this answer is already posted somewhere, I had a hard time finding the answer.

Thanks

The tour issue versions of the dynamic gold shafts are the same shaft as the non-tour issue with tighter tolerances. Don't quote me, but I believe the weight tolerances are +/- 1 gram on the tour issue shafts, where as the non-tour issue might be as high as +/- 3 grams. Long story short, the shaft should play the same as long as they are installed the same way as your old ones.

The tour issue versions of the dynamic gold shafts are the same shaft as the non-tour issue with tighter tolerances. Don't quote me, but I believe the weight tolerances are +/- 1 gram on the tour issue shafts, where as the non-tour issue might be as high as +/- 3 grams. Long story short, the shaft should play the same as long as they are installed the same way as your old ones.

I will say this and I'm not 100% certain, but all of my old x7 shafts in the code on the butt say dgx7ti. Which I would decipher as dynamic gold x7 tour issue. The new ones have the same code. I have both sets, the new ones having the silk screened label. the old ones having the old dg TOUR under the last step in small print. I think the x100 and the x100 tour issue have a different code on the butt. This would make me believe the x7s are identical since the identical codes. I would also think they would be the same since the x7 has always been a tour shaft of sorts. Since the rerelease, I think they feel they need to charge more for the shafts with the large logo like on the other tour issue lineup. I say this because I used to get x7s for a great price and now they are close to 40$ a shaft. Still my all time favorite shaft. Such a difference from x100. Hope this helps.

Dynamic GOLD is a sorting standard with plus minus 1.5 grams both ways, who gives:

S200 - 127 grams (shafts below 128.5)

S300 - 130 grams (above 128.5 - below 131.5)

S400 - 132 grams (shafts above 131.5)

Tour issue is a extra sorting where tolerances is brought down to plus minus 0.5 grams

X100 Ti - 130 grams (129.5 - 130.5)

S400 Ti - 132 grams (131.5 - 132.5)

DGX7Ti.- 132 grams (131.5 - 132.5)

There were two butt screening logos on the original DG Tours.

The original started with a C (something like C101010 or something). Original, the first shaft to have Dynamic Gold Tour on it.

Then they stocked them as DGX7. This model had the TOUR screen on the last step in a much larger font than the original.

Now, they have DGTIX7 with the billboard logo.

The current retail DG X7 are not a tour issue product, they are not weight sorted in the +/- 0.5g like Dynamic Gold Tour Issue, they have a similar looking label on them but they also do not say Tour Issue on them anywhere. The Code being DGX7TI the TI is Tapered Iron

The shafts have never changed. The true Tour issues will say TOUR in screened letters toward the tip. The rest will not. All of them are the same profile.

The shafts have never changed. The true Tour issues will say TOUR in screened letters toward the tip. The rest will not. All of them are the same profile.

Correct but they are not weight sorted to +/- 0.5g like the Dynamic Gold Tour Issue S440 and X100

The shafts have never changed. The true Tour issues will say TOUR in screened letters toward the tip. The rest will not. All of them are the same profile.

 

Correct but they are not weight sorted to +/- 0.5g like the Dynamic Gold Tour Issue S440 and X100

This is the correct information. They used to make a 36.5" discreet length but now the set composition is the same as the rest of the DGs.

Gotta love a 2+ year thread bump to answer an already answered question lol

Gotta love a 2+ year thread bump to answer an already answered question lol

Fair point, have a set coming and just doing some extra research. Hoping I can get it close to Tour Issue (+/- 0.5) since I have access to a couple sets to pick from.

Gotta love a 2+ year thread bump to answer an already answered question lol

 

Fair point, have a set coming and just doing some extra research. Hoping I can get it close to Tour Issue (+/- 0.5) since I have access to a couple sets to pick from.

They have always been tour only shafts and should all be weight sorted accordingly

Gotta love a 2+ year thread bump to answer an already answered question lol

 

Fair point, have a set coming and just doing some extra research. Hoping I can get it close to Tour Issue (+/- 0.5) since I have access to a couple sets to pick from.

 

They have always been tour only shafts and should all be weight sorted accordingly

They're not. Their tolerances are the gold standard not the TI standard and they don't come in bagged sets. When True Temper picks the order they just pick them like regular DG sets.

I can assure you they aren't, i've seen some as low as 130.7 and some as high as 135.6

I can assure you they aren't, i've seen some as low as 130.7 and some as high as 135.6

Exactly. I used to sell a lot of them back in the day so I would order them 10 sets at a time and sort them myself. They were definitely +/- 2 grams which lines up with your experience.

Hi guys,

I have pùrchased a set of DG X7 and I belived these had the same tolerances as the DG Tour Issue. The thing is I have until next Monday to change this for a set of X100 Tour Issue.

The shop were I got it from told me this is a premium shaft from True Temper and all premium Gold shafts (including DG Tour Issue) have the same tolerances. He also sent me the following screenshot:

However, last night I got a reply from a representative of true temper who told me this: "the Dynamic Gold X7 is not a Tour Issue model, so it is not sold in weight sorted sets to within 0.5g's. The X7's are held to our standard tolerances."

Then I asked another shop in the uk, and I got the following response: "Hi manuel the shaft tolerances should be pretty good on the x7 "

I don't know what to believe now. I'm about to build a set of irons with the X7 but I'm wondering now if I'd be better of using the X100 tour issue as they are roughly the same price.

My main goal is to get the lowest launching lowest spinnng shaft possible but also to gain consitency. I understand the X7 will help me with the first 2 but it looks like I might get more consitency from the X7.

Go by the X7, and dont think for a second that GOLD sorting who came 1980 is "bad", with a tolerance of plus minus 1.5 grams vs Tour Issue 0.5.

What ever brand we look at, its hard to find better than 1.5 grams as tolerance, and X7 will be lower launching than X100, and for all i know, those extra 2-3 grams shaft weight up to X7 is good for you.

Depending on where you put your order, they might have the option to weight in all shafts, and make switches from another set for tighter weight match, it cant hurt to ask so you get to know what you actually get delivered.

Thanks for your reply Howard.

I'm going to ask the shop if they could do that for me since they have the X7 back in stock.

FYI I've just found this statement in True Temper's website:

"Dynamic Gold X7 is True Temper's heaviest, stiffest and lowest launching/spinning design. All True Temper premium shafts are created using the company's state-of-the-art proprietary Gold Manufacturing (GM) process."

LOL...GOLD is their sorting standard, and now they call it "manufacturing" :-)

Its really the same old True Temper DYNAMIC from 1942 we still play, but in 1980 they started to weight sort shafts after production. For S flex, they was all meant to be "S300", but some turned out light, other a bit heavy, so they sorted them it like this:

S200 - Shafts from 127 to 128.5 grams

S300 - Shafts from 128.5 to 131.5 grams

S400 - shafts from 131.5 to 134.5 grams

Thats 7 grams from top to bottom, improved to 3 grams with the GOLD sorting standard.

The old production tools from the original is changed, so today tolerances out of production itself is improved, and thats why we no longer find X200 and X300 sub sorting for X flex. The one closest to 130 grams (129.5 to 130.5) becomes Tour Issue, the rest is "ordinary" DG X100, and once in a blue moon they might end up with a set X200. (same specs for weight as S400 and X7). So the improved tolerances out of production makes no need for Sub flexes for X and TX flex, they are able to keep them well within plus minus 1.5 grams.