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Arccos 360 - (Updated 2.0 Version)

MaitriMikeMaitriMike Advanced Members Posts: 1,578 ✭✭
Just got an email from Arccos stating by November, they are releasing a newer / updated version of Arccos called Arccos 360.



Anyone else have insight or know if the devices are much smaller than original? I have the original and have issues where the sensor would fall out after hitting certain shots.





URL to new version below:



http://www.arccosgolf.com/pages/arccos-360
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  • MSchadMSchad Advanced Members Posts: 299
    MaitriMike wrote:


    Just got an email from Arccos stating by November, they are releasing a newer / updated version of Arccos called Arccos 360.



    Anyone else have insight or know if the devices are much smaller than original? I have the original and have issues where the sensor would fall out after hitting certain shots.





    URL to new version below:



    http://www.arccosgol...ages/arccos-360




    From their site: "Second-generation system features ultralight low-profile sensors and enhanced shot detection algorithm"
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  • robrey85robrey85 Gamblers Bonus Advanced Members Posts: 2,126
    If it is a consistently performing application of stats then it's totally worth it. The problem I read about is these systems aren't as good as they could be because of consistency.
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  • TheGulagTheGulag Advanced Members Posts: 160
    I was just about to pull the trigger on a set I might wait now and pre order these... hmm...
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  • MaitriMikeMaitriMike Advanced Members Posts: 1,578 ✭✭
    Oh, I know its smaller, but half the size? Guess i'll believe it when i see it. Also preorder is $249.99. So whoever was going to buy the version one, preorder version 2, you won't regret it. I love the app / sensors / functionality. I just wish I took the data and improved on it more.



    For those not familiar with the item, Arrcos has a beta website with all your stats laid out in a graph chart, ranging from 10-20-30-40-etc rounds. Also has a proximity of green / pin of your shots landing. Very good data for those that want to go into detail of their game.



    One suggesting that would be good for the Arccos site is to have a Wizard or some kind of virtual tour pro to give you tips on improving your game. Hmmm.. I think I'll send arccos an email. They took my suggestion on marking the pin location once you are on the green to give an idea of how long your putts are. I'm probably not the only one that mentioned that to them.
  • mokedaddymokedaddy Advanced Members Posts: 1,239 ✭✭
    The website shows pictures of the new sensors.
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  • wingfoot64wingfoot64 Advanced Members Posts: 150 ✭✭
    MaitriMike wrote:


    Just got an email from Arccos stating by November, they are releasing a newer / updated version of Arccos called Arccos 360.



    Anyone else have insight or know if the devices are much smaller than original? I have the original and have issues where the sensor would fall out after hitting certain shots.

    Try one wrap of black electrical tape around outside of sensor half on grip, half on sensor works great for keeping them on and tight.



    I really love my Arccos but I was hoping for a bit of a discount for owners of the first generation Arccos, enough to pull the trigger on a newer set.

    The picture of the 2.0's do look like they have a lower profile, I'd like to see a side by side comparison.
  • MaitriMikeMaitriMike Advanced Members Posts: 1,578 ✭✭
    edited October 2016
    wingfoot64 wrote:

    MaitriMike wrote:


    Just got an email from Arccos stating by November, they are releasing a newer / updated version of Arccos called Arccos 360.



    Anyone else have insight or know if the devices are much smaller than original? I have the original and have issues where the sensor would fall out after hitting certain shots.

    Try one wrap of black electrical tape around outside of sensor half on grip, half on sensor works great for keeping them on and tight.



    I really love my Arccos but I was hoping for a bit of a discount for owners of the first generation Arccos, enough to pull the trigger on a newer set.

    The picture of the 2.0's do look like they have a lower profile, I'd like to see a side by side comparison.







    I did try that method and boy was it messy. I even got the non residue tape that supposedly doesn't leave any stuff... It would start leaving some nasty stuff on my clubs / grips. In addition, it would slowly peel off due to the club being pulled in and out of the bag. I've since then gave up on any proper solutions.
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  • Mick84Mick84 Members Posts: 5
    I definitely recommend using some type of tape to make sure you don't lose a sensor. I use white electrical tape, which doesn't leave the mess on my white grips that the black tape does.
  • wingfoot64wingfoot64 Advanced Members Posts: 150 ✭✭
    The black electrical tape I used didn't leave any residue, I'll check out the brand I have when I get home.
  • dcmidnightdcmidnight Marshals, BST Volunteer Mods Posts: 11,489 mod
    The one question their website doesn't answer is if you have to have your phone on / on you in order to record the data?



    I've been thinking of switching from Game Golf but not if I need to carry my phone on me.
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  • MaitriMikeMaitriMike Advanced Members Posts: 1,578 ✭✭
    wingfoot64 wrote:


    The black electrical tape I used didn't leave any residue, I'll check out the brand I have when I get home.




    It could be related to my grips being too soft. I use pure grips and its tackier than most. Also softer. and lastly, since there is no tape inside, the sensors have a harder time staying in.
  • MaitriMikeMaitriMike Advanced Members Posts: 1,578 ✭✭
    dcmidnight wrote:


    The one question their website doesn't answer is if you have to have your phone on / on you in order to record the data?



    I've been thinking of switching from Game Golf but not if I need to carry my phone on me.




    You should have your phone on you as it uses the GPS and gives you the correct readouts from your distance on your shots and distance to the green, (front, back, center). Hope that answers your question.



    I usually have it in my front pocket. Never gets in the way. (left peg pocket, and I'm a righty).
  • ilovenewtechilovenewtech Advanced Members Posts: 103
    Really interested to learn how they have improved their shot processing 'algorithm' to get rid of editing.



    Big question I have is (and may have picked this up wrongly): I believe the batteries are not replaceable and once they run out of power (after 2 years) then the golfer has to replace the whole sensor at $20/$29 a sensor. I get the feeling most golfers have missed this and will feel duped in 2 years time. However this was only my interpretation of their marketing. Anyone else pick up on this or have the answer?
  • MSchadMSchad Advanced Members Posts: 299
    edited October 2016


    Really interested to learn how they have improved their shot processing 'algorithm' to get rid of editing.



    Big question I have is (and may have picked this up wrongly): I believe the batteries are not replaceable and once they run out of power (after 2 years) then the golfer has to replace the whole sensor at $20/$29 a sensor. I get the feeling most golfers have missed this and will feel duped in 2 years time. However this was only my interpretation of their marketing. Anyone else pick up on this or have the answer?




    Where did you see that. I haven't seen anything. A cost like that would equate to $280-$420. I don't think so.
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  • dcmidnightdcmidnight Marshals, BST Volunteer Mods Posts: 11,489 mod
    MaitriMike wrote:

    dcmidnight wrote:


    The one question their website doesn't answer is if you have to have your phone on / on you in order to record the data?



    I've been thinking of switching from Game Golf but not if I need to carry my phone on me.




    You should have your phone on you as it uses the GPS and gives you the correct readouts from your distance on your shots and distance to the green, (front, back, center). Hope that answers your question.



    I usually have it in my front pocket. Never gets in the way. (left peg pocket, and I'm a righty).




    Ah thanks. Unfortunately yeah, try that with a bigger phone (S7 Edge) - just not going to happen.
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  • ilovenewtechilovenewtech Advanced Members Posts: 103
    MSchad wrote:



    Really interested to learn how they have improved their shot processing 'algorithm' to get rid of editing.



    Big question I have is (and may have picked this up wrongly): I believe the batteries are not replaceable and once they run out of power (after 2 years) then the golfer has to replace the whole sensor at $20/$29 a sensor. I get the feeling most golfers have missed this and will feel duped in 2 years time. However this was only my interpretation of their marketing. Anyone else pick up on this or have the answer?




    Where did you see that. I haven't seen anything. A cost like that would equate to $280-$420. I don't think so.




    I am now 99% sure that I am right. I can't remember where I saw the $20 replacement sensor fee after the two years. I assumed they had reduced the size of the sensor by removing the capability to remove the battery.



    So on Edwin Watts it says this:



    Additional Features of Arccos 360:
    • New software that increases accuracy by up to 90%
    • Permanent battery that's guaranteed for a minimum of two years with no charging
  • North ButteNorth Butte Advanced Members Posts: 9,755 ✭✭
    Yeah but in 12-18 months they will have a Version 3.0 and you'll be throwing away your 2.0 stuff way before the batteries run out. Kind of like an iPhone, sure the battery will refuse to take a charge in the three years but who wants to use the same phone for three years anyway?



    Wake up. It's the 21st century. Two years is an eternity in consumer electronics. Emphasis on the "consume".
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  • MSchadMSchad Advanced Members Posts: 299
    edited October 2016

    MSchad wrote:



    Really interested to learn how they have improved their shot processing 'algorithm' to get rid of editing.



    Big question I have is (and may have picked this up wrongly): I believe the batteries are not replaceable and once they run out of power (after 2 years) then the golfer has to replace the whole sensor at $20/$29 a sensor. I get the feeling most golfers have missed this and will feel duped in 2 years time. However this was only my interpretation of their marketing. Anyone else pick up on this or have the answer?




    Where did you see that. I haven't seen anything. A cost like that would equate to $280-$420. I don't think so.




    I am now 99% sure that I am right. I can't remember where I saw the $20 replacement sensor fee after the two years. I assumed they had reduced the size of the sensor by removing the capability to remove the battery.



    So on Edwin Watts it says this:



    Additional Features of Arccos 360:
    • New software that increases accuracy by up to 90%
    • Permanent battery that's guaranteed for a minimum of two years with no charging





    I emailed them and asked about the batteries. They said the batteries are not replaceable. But they will be offering an "opt-in" extended warranty for a small fee that will cover any lost/damaged/dead battery sensors. The details of this opt-in warranty will be shared at a later date.
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  • MaitriMikeMaitriMike Advanced Members Posts: 1,578 ✭✭
    dcmidnight wrote:

    MaitriMike wrote:

    dcmidnight wrote:


    The one question their website doesn't answer is if you have to have your phone on / on you in order to record the data?



    I've been thinking of switching from Game Golf but not if I need to carry my phone on me.




    You should have your phone on you as it uses the GPS and gives you the correct readouts from your distance on your shots and distance to the green, (front, back, center). Hope that answers your question.



    I usually have it in my front pocket. Never gets in the way. (left peg pocket, and I'm a righty).




    Ah thanks. Unfortunately yeah, try that with a bigger phone (S7 Edge) - just not going to happen.




    That's not that bad. I have an Iphone 7 Plus and I barely notice it. I guess it's all about preference. You can leave the phone in the cart as long as its relatively close to your shot. It'll help with tracking a little better.
  • HandsomeDaveHandsomeDave Advanced Members Posts: 158 ✭✭
    I have the original system- I've only looked through information briefly are there any new app or dashboard upgrades or is this just solely a better GPS tracker for the club? Would love to see some new bells and whistles in the dashboard. Given all the battery issues I've had and the information above about a 2 year battery warranty there is no way I'd be an early adopter of this new system.
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  • bjp1bjp1 Silky Advanced Members Posts: 818
    I've had Arccos for over 2 years now, and regrettably it appears they still do not use Google Maps for course mapping. Including my Home course, any newer courses not mapped or updated in Apple Maps will be useless with Arccos. I can still only use Arccos for 9 of the 18 holes on my course because Apple Maps will never update the map for 18 holes, and therefore Arccos cannot update the course map. Pitiful they still rely on Apple Maps for iPhone users.



    This is a non-issue for Android users.
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  • mbrairtonmbrairton Members Posts: 55
    I lost a sensor and sent them an email- they sent me a replacement right away - no shipping no charge of any kind. Great customer service I thought!
  • Trane5Trane5 Advanced Members Posts: 339
    bjp1 wrote:
    I've had Arccos for over 2 years now, and regrettably it appears they still do not use Google Maps for course mapping. Including my Home course, any newer courses not mapped or updated in Apple Maps will be useless with Arccos. I can still only use Arccos for 9 of the 18 holes on my course because Apple Maps will never update the map for 18 holes, and therefore Arccos cannot update the course map. Pitiful they still rely on Apple Maps for iPhone users.



    This is a non-issue for Android users.




    Hi BJP1,



    I've also noticed what you mention about some courses not be mapped correctly (for me) mostly due to course remodels....like reversing the order of holes or switching the front 9 with the back etc. Arcoss has been wonderful in remapping these for me correctly in every occasion. Have you tried reaching out to them? Their customer service is really good! Best of luck to you!
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  • ChromiumChromium Members Posts: 9
    I understand what people are saying about there will be a 3.0 etc. in regards to the battery thing, but going to a non replaceable battery and offering a "warranty" at the outset for batteries that are sure to die and were user replaceable in the last version is an absolute deal breaker here.
  • North ButteNorth Butte Advanced Members Posts: 9,755 ✭✭
    It's disposable tech. Built to last the same time frame as an iPhone.
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  • jackedhackmanjackedhackman Members Posts: 6
    I was hesitant to pull the trigger on the original version due to some of the known issues, am a little more tempted by the release of this new version. I would not pre-order though, I'd be keen to wait and see whether the new GPS algorithm works as good as they have marketed it to. Reviews of the product will shed light on that in quick time I'd imagine.



    Other issues, you couldn't switch from yards to meters, I wonder if that's fixed. Also a worry about the 2 year battery life but it does say "without a charge" so maybe the battery can be charged some how? Probably not likely though.



    Guess I'll just wait and see what the early adopters think once they receive them.
  • MaitriMikeMaitriMike Advanced Members Posts: 1,578 ✭✭
    Did anyone see cobras new F7 clubs? The grips have arccos built in. Good concept but I find it hard to see it sell well. Grips get interchanged often and you might not have the whole set of cobras. They do look very sleek and well made, grip & sensor.
  • bjp1bjp1 Silky Advanced Members Posts: 818
    Trane5 wrote:
    bjp1 wrote:
    I've had Arccos for over 2 years now, and regrettably it appears they still do not use Google Maps for course mapping. Including my Home course, any newer courses not mapped or updated in Apple Maps will be useless with Arccos. I can still only use Arccos for 9 of the 18 holes on my course because Apple Maps will never update the map for 18 holes, and therefore Arccos cannot update the course map. Pitiful they still rely on Apple Maps for iPhone users.



    This is a non-issue for Android users.




    Hi BJP1,



    I've also noticed what you mention about some courses not be mapped correctly (for me) mostly due to course remodels....like reversing the order of holes or switching the front 9 with the back etc. Arcoss has been wonderful in remapping these for me correctly in every occasion. Have you tried reaching out to them? Their customer service is really good! Best of luck to you!




    They have been excellent on issues within their control. My mapping concern was pertinent to their use of Apple Maps over Google Maps for iOS users. So long as Apple Maps hadn't updated my course map, Arccos would have to wait. However, after 16 months of waiting Apple finally updated my course, and Arccos did almost immediately.



    All seems well now!
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  • harringtons06harringtons06 Advanced Members Posts: 290
    Has anyone figured out a good way to use this if you have a Superstroke with a counter core grip?
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  • dethmandethman Advanced Members Posts: 394
    edited November 2016
    non user replaceable batteries so the sensor just dies? that sounds wack. hope they are rechargeable.



    i've been using the original arccos for lack of a better option and it's super annoying. false positive strikes everywhere with wedges and often misses shots.
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    Has anyone figured out a good way to use this if you have a Superstroke with a counter core grip?




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  • stubiwonstubiwon Members Posts: 12
    I have had the original Arccos for about 6 months and have been very pleased with it. My number one complaint is the sensor constantly comes loose from my driver, and I tighten it before every shot. I would also like to see a version that would combine the scores of multiple players using the system at the same time.



    Arccos says they do not have an upgrade plan for existing users and that is disappointing, to me, as i think this is one of those things that the price is going to drop like a rock over a short period of time.
  • MSchadMSchad Advanced Members Posts: 299
    dethman wrote:


    non user replaceable batteries so the sensor just dies? that sounds wack. hope they are rechargeable.



    i've been using the original arccos for lack of a better option and it's super annoying. false positive strikes everywhere with wedges and often misses shots.




    I used to get some false strike on wedges before the sensor firmware update earlier this year. But haven't had any since that came out.
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  • MBAMBA Members Posts: 5
    has anyone received the new sensors yet? I know the website says "shipping in early November"



    I'd say early November is almost over at this point and I haven't seen anything indicating they are starting to ship.
  • MBAMBA Members Posts: 5
    by the way I pre-ordered mine about 2 weeks ago but haven't gotten any email updates other than confirming the original purchase.
  • HandsomeDaveHandsomeDave Advanced Members Posts: 158 ✭✭
    MSchad wrote:

    dethman wrote:


    non user replaceable batteries so the sensor just dies? that sounds wack. hope they are rechargeable.



    i've been using the original arccos for lack of a better option and it's super annoying. false positive strikes everywhere with wedges and often misses shots.




    I used to get some false strike on wedges before the sensor firmware update earlier this year. But haven't had any since that came out.


    I get more false strikes than I would like as well. I don't really have a problem when I walk, but when I take a cart I am always carrying a few clubs to my ball and run into an issue. Definitely better since the firmware, but still an issue.
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  • MBAMBA Members Posts: 5
    FYI, I just got shipping confirmation for the new sensors...should have them tomorrow
  • MaitriMikeMaitriMike Advanced Members Posts: 1,578 ✭✭
    MBA wrote:


    FYI, I just got shipping confirmation for the new sensors...should have them tomorrow




    Awesome. Can't wait for mine.
  • wingfoot64wingfoot64 Advanced Members Posts: 150 ✭✭
    I got my my new sensors yesterday via FedEx, signature required shipment so be prepared for that or have them held at a FedEx store, that's what I did and picked them up on the way home from work. I haven't got to try them out yet, probably will get to try them out Monday, Tuesday at the latest.

    I am going to contact Arccos, I saw the batteries were guaranteed for 2 years but didn't know anything about having to buy a new sensor if the battery craps out. If that is the case I may be sending these back for a refund. I'll update after I hear back from them.



    For those of you that have had loose sensors, I used GE black electrical tape and have had no tape residue issues, I have had the tape to harden up and get brittle, not sure how old my tape is but it works good and I'm not losing sensors anymore.
  • MBAMBA Members Posts: 5
    tried to play today with the new sensors...it was an awful experience. It's likely a problem with my Iphone 6 but I'm not sure. Been back and forth with Arccos support via email to no avail...a lot of them asking me to re-pair the sensors, restart the phone etc. Mine would haphazardly register a shot every now and then so technically they did work on a few occassions.



    support thinks it's my phone mic that is the issue (this is how the new ones communicate via high frequency through the phone mic). That may be the case. I cleaned it and tried chipping in the backyard to no avail. Tried putting the app on my wife's phone (also an iphone 6) and that didn't work either.



    I may go upgrade to an Iphone 7 and see if that works...probably need to anyway but I hate that there's no headphone jack on the new one.



    Anyone else using the new sensors successfully? if so, what phone? Thanks
  • wingfoot64wingfoot64 Advanced Members Posts: 150 ✭✭
    Here's the response I got from Arccos today on the new 360 sensors if the battery dies after the warranty.



    Thank you for reaching out to the Arccos Golf Team. We are creating an opt-in extended warranty program for users of Arccos 360 and these details will be shared at a later date, but very soon. For a small fee we will replace the sensors for you when the batteries finally deplete 2+ years down the road.

    If you have further questions, our number is (844)MY-ARCCOS (844) 692-7226. Our phone lines are open Monday-Friday 11:00 am to 5:00 pm EST. Or feel free to visit our support website

    Have a wonderful day!!



    I guess depending on the cost, I may opt out and return mine. I don't like that they don't have this hammered out yet, I guess I jumped the gun and bought mine before finding this out. I like being able to replace my battery when it dies, instead of contacting them to buy another and having to wait for another to be sent. Not worth the cost to upgrade in my opinion, mine original ones work just fine.
  • Duke of HazardsDuke of Hazards Advanced Members Posts: 128
    Like others have said, I imagine that the tech 2 yrs from now might be substantially better.



    With an amortized cost of about $10/month over 2 yrs, it's probably fine.



    2+ yrs, and it's probably time to move on to something newer/better.
  • MaitriMikeMaitriMike Advanced Members Posts: 1,578 ✭✭
    Just got the sensors yesterday. I haven't used it yet but its definitely not 1/2 the size of the original. More like 2/3 of the size. I was hoping for it to be smaller. I hope I can test next week with the weather holding up.
  • lonehawkstationlonehawkstation Members Posts: 75 ✭✭
    wingfoot64 wrote:


    Here's the response I got from Arccos today on the new 360 sensors if the battery dies after the warranty.



    Thank you for reaching out to the Arccos Golf Team. We are creating an opt-in extended warranty program for users of Arccos 360 and these details will be shared at a later date, but very soon. For a small fee we will replace the sensors for you when the batteries finally deplete 2+ years down the road.

    If you have further questions, our number is (844)MY-ARCCOS (844) 692-7226. Our phone lines are open Monday-Friday 11:00 am to 5:00 pm EST. Or feel free to visit our support website

    Have a wonderful day!!



    I guess depending on the cost, I may opt out and return mine. I don't like that they don't have this hammered out yet, I guess I jumped the gun and bought mine before finding this out. I like being able to replace my battery when it dies, instead of contacting them to buy another and having to wait for another to be sent. Not worth the cost to upgrade in my opinion, mine original ones work just fine.




    Dude, I had NO IDEA. This is just dumb!
    • Cost - I doubt the "small fee" would be as low the battery cost.
    • Availability - I don't feel like shipping the sensors in and wait for new ones. I want to be able to change the batteries myself, reinstall, and play wit them the next day.
    • Availability2 - What if they phase out these sensors in a few years? I doubt they're going to give us new generation sensors without an upcharge. I like to keep my gadgets for a while and don't want to be forced into paying extra for newer items.


    I received my sensors a couple of days ago and plan to try them out this weekend. However, this sounds like a deal breaker to me. I will likely return them within the 30d trial period.
  • wingfoot64wingfoot64 Advanced Members Posts: 150 ✭✭
    I played 3 rounds with mine and they sucked, they failed to pick up a lot of shots. I don't mind carrying a phone in my pocket while I play as long as it's in the back pocket, they tended to rub my leg until it was sore in the front. I emailed them got an RA number and shipped them back, you have to do it on your dime as well, actually $10 to ship back priority mail.



    I've played a lot of rounds with the original Arccos 240 + rounds and love them but the new ones just don't cut it for me. Arccos not even knowing what they would charge for the replacement of the sensors really just rubbed me the wrong way. I'll happily continue to use my original set.
  • HandsomeDaveHandsomeDave Advanced Members Posts: 158 ✭✭
    wingfoot64 wrote:


    I played 3 rounds with mine and they sucked, they failed to pick up a lot of shots. I don't mind carrying a phone in my pocket while I play as long as it's in the back pocket, they tended to rub my leg until it was sore in the front. I emailed them got an RA number and shipped them back, you have to do it on your dime as well, actually $10 to ship back priority mail.



    I've played a lot of rounds with the original Arccos 240 + rounds and love them but the new ones just don't cut it for me. Arccos not even knowing what they would charge for the replacement of the sensors really just rubbed me the wrong way. I'll happily continue to use my original set.




    That's disappointing to hear the new tech wasn't much of an improvement. I have the originals and was probably not going to upgrade any time soon, but I was hoping for a leap in version 2.0. The success of the product is obviously tied to improvements/expansion with the app and the dashboard for all users.
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  • benlarsenarccosbenlarsenarccos Sponsors Posts: 2


    I was hesitant to pull the trigger on the original version due to some of the known issues, am a little more tempted by the release of this new version. I would not pre-order though, I'd be keen to wait and see whether the new GPS algorithm works as good as they have marketed it to. Reviews of the product will shed light on that in quick time I'd imagine.



    Other issues, you couldn't switch from yards to meters, I wonder if that's fixed. Also a worry about the 2 year battery life but it does say "without a charge" so maybe the battery can be charged some how? Probably not likely though.



    Guess I'll just wait and see what the early adopters think once they receive them.




    Hi jackedhackman: Arccos now has a toggle that allows you to switch between yards and meters inside the app.
  • lonehawkstationlonehawkstation Members Posts: 75 ✭✭
    After playing a few rounds with Arccos 360, I've decided to return it.



    The drawbacks I'm aware of:
    • Battery - No it doesn't charge (to answer jackedhackman's question). After about 2-3 years, when the batteries do die, you need to ship the sensors to Arccos for a sensor or battery replacement. The battery replacement section of their protection plans is a joke. They offer to replace the batteries/sensors 3 years ($50 plan) or 4 years ($100 plan) from the date of purchase, since their batteries are already guaranteed for at least 2 years, which mean they'll likely last ~2-3yrs, this battery replacement offer in their protection plan is not going to extend it all that much. The plans do include free replacement of 3 or 7 lost of damaged sensors.
    • Phone Battery - I have an iPhone 6. Each round with the Arccos draws ~60% of the phone battery. I didn't do anything else with the phone other than fixing scores. Which brings me to...
    • Accuracy - They're advertising an improved algorithm and technology that "virtually removed the need to modify shots". Not true. For the 3 rounds I played, I had to modify the scores of 9-12 holes. Most of them were for removing extra putts or extra wedge shots I never took, and to add tab-ins that the putter sensor didn't pick up. Making those changes was easy and quick. However, if you expect to click "start" and forget it, don't expect Arccos to report the actual score you shot.


    Overall, the system didn't tell me what I didn't already know. Hit more greens on approach and work on the short game inside 100 yds. The App and UI was nice, quick, and well designed. The sensor didn't impact my swing and wasn't intrusive at all.



    Me: 9 Handicapper. Did not own the original Arccos. Almost never do practice swings before a shot, the ones I do take are to relax my arms and never impact the ground (shouldn't cause the sensor to record a shot).
  • YossarianPasoYossarianPaso Members Posts: 11
    • Accuracy - They're advertising an improved algorithm and technology that "virtually removed the need to modify shots". Not true. For the 3 rounds I played, I had to modify the scores of 9-12 holes. Most of them were for removing extra putts or extra wedge shots I never took, and to add tab-ins that the putter sensor didn't pick up. Making those changes was easy and quick. However, if you expect to click "start" and forget it, don't expect Arccos to report the actual score you shot.







    The extra wedges is strange, usually with the original Arccos is the opposite (the technology has to filter out the practice shots, so if 2 shots happen a few yards apart it will count only the last one).

    The missed putts sounds like the original one (it never bothered me because it takes the same time to update the paper scorecard or to add a putt on their app)



    I wonder if the advertised extra accuracy is referred to the use of gps data for the ball position, but seemed to work pretty well in the original one.

    Also, I would be curious to know how many rounds they expect the batteries to last. Assuming it's now possible to put to sleep the sensors when practicing in the driving range (not an option in the original one), depending how often you play the 2 years limit may not be a big issue. Still, personally when I buy a gadget I want to be the one who decides when it's obsolete
  • MBAMBA Members Posts: 5
    I initially had major problems but it turned out to be a bad gyroscope in my iphone. Got a new phone and they've worked great ever since. They do occassionally miss a shot but certainly no more than the original sensors and not having to constantly change batteries is a huge plus for me.



    All in all, I'm quite happy with the new sensors. I did find that I have to remove my battery case if I want to carry in my back pocket but they worked well even in the case in the front pocket.
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