Bags with 4-way or 14-way dividers?

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  • nitramnitram Take Dead Aim Members Posts: 5,177 ✭✭
    arbitrage wrote:


    I have a Sun Mountain C-130 for riding and a Four 5 for walking. Both 14 way. I like that every club has a slot and I know right away if I have misplaced my club/left a wedge on the green.




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  • IsleOfManIsleOfMan Members Posts: 2,309 ✭✭
    I like 14-way and use it in my cart bag, but I really prefer the Ogio Wood-E system for smaller stand bags... Everything seems to fall where it's supposed to just as well as a 14-way, but in a 7" top. I'd even prefer it in a cart bag since I use mine on a push cart 50% of the time. Getting the necessary amount of tilt to get things sitting right on a riding cart would be harder, but I'm sure some slanted ridges could be worked into the inside of the base.
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  • theWISEmantheWISEman Legend in my own mind... TexasClubWRX Posts: 160 ClubWRX
    I have always used the 4 or 6 way bags. 14 way dividers space the clubs out in a way that drives me crazy to look at.

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  • Geaux GatorsGeaux Gators GEAUX GATORS Members Posts: 3,771 ✭✭
    I have a 14 way C130 that I just went back to and I HATE it... its not the dividers, its the putter well that sits behind the pocket that I keep my golf balls and other stuff in.... and the putter gets hung up... its weird...
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  • ryuartzryuartz Members Posts: 483 ✭✭
    14 ways for cart bag and 4 or 5 ways for carry bag.
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  • aliikanealiikane Members Posts: 1,617 ✭✭
    The 4-way top is the best for a stand bag. Simple, organized, and not cluttered. It makes it lighter with not so many dividers and clubs go into the bag pretty easy without getting stuck. It works well.



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  • pitchinwedgepitchinwedge Members Posts: 1,553 ✭✭
    aliikane wrote:


    The 4-way top is the best for a stand bag. Simple, organized, and not cluttered. It makes it lighter with not so many dividers and clubs go into the bag pretty easy without getting stuck. It works well.



    Lower section: 52, 56, 60, PW

    Left middle section: 7, 8, 9

    Right middle section: 4, 5, 6

    Top section: Driver, 3W, 3H, putter, alignment stick.




    Used to do this too, minus the alignment stick. Even without it, I felt the top section was too busy. Might be nice to have 4.5-way (4-way with then a separate putter section). What an idea! You heard it here first! Tried a clip-on putter holster, but found it unreliable.
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  • IsleOfManIsleOfMan Members Posts: 2,309 ✭✭
    edited Jan 27, 2017 #69


    Might be nice to have 4.5-way (4-way with then a separate putter section). What an idea! You heard it here first!




    My circa ~2000 Callaway/Ogio stand bag that I use for my short/walking set is 4 way plus a single slot on top for either putter or driver (I use it for putter)... only 17 years too late!



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  • pitchinwedgepitchinwedge Members Posts: 1,553 ✭✭
    Hawt dawg...
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  • MaitriMikeMaitriMike Members Posts: 1,587 ✭✭
    I've had both 14 way and currently 4 way. I prefer the 4 way so much better. Initially I thought the 14 way would keeps the clubs apart and organize better but in reality, the clubs get hung up more than my 4 way (two 5 bag). I had the four 5 prior. With my two 5, I'm able to place more than 14 clubs if need be, alignment aids, shafts, extra whatever for practice walking rounds or going to range for testing things.



    I guess it all comes down to your preference. I think lately due to walking often, the 4 way was easier to manage and grab and carry. If I used my push cart or motor cart often or for all my rounds, I'd consider using a 14 way since the weight would be heavier too.
  • Pinger89Pinger89 ghostbear Members Posts: 540
    There's a myth that 14-way tops are heavier than 4-way tops. It's simply not the case as there are a multitude of 14-way tops that are the same weight as their 4-way counterparts. Adding some nylon dividers and plastic up top adds so little weight that its barely discernible. Plenty of offerings from Sun Mountain, PING, and Callaway that offer a 14-way top in the 4.5 lb range. A half pound to a pound extra strapped to your back spread across both shoulders is nothing.



    Now, with all that said, 14-way tops are really only of benefit if each individual divider goes all the way to the bottom. The point of a 14-way top is to keep the clubs more organized, but also to limit grip tangle at the bottom of the bag. If the dividers don't go all the way down then the clubs will still lean and tangle all they want, so it's still going to be frustrating getting the clubs in and out of the bag. In this case I actually prefer to have the 4-way top because it gives more room at the top of the bag to maneuver the club around when taking it in or out. It's all preference though. To some the added value of organization at the top of the bag is more beneficial than grip tangle, so having 14 full length dividers isn't a make or break option. The problem with 14 full length dividers is added cost and the fact that there are not many bags on the market that have it.



    So, what's my preference? I actually prefer a 5-way top. My current bag is the Nike Sport Lite II bag and it's incredibly lightweight which is great for walking. The top is basically a PING 4-series top with an extra well up top for the putter. It's fantastic as you have the putter in the very top section that sits just above the section for the woods. Then you split the irons in the middle sections, followed by wedges in the bottom section. This way the woods and putter headcovers don't get tangled and there's plenty of room for getting the clubs in and out.
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  • brew4eaglebrew4eagle VAMembers Posts: 2,747 ✭✭
    Pinger89 wrote:


    There's a myth that 14-way tops are heavier than 4-way tops. It's simply not the case as there are a multitude of 14-way tops that are the same weight as their 4-way counterparts. Adding some nylon dividers and plastic up top adds so little weight that its barely discernible. Plenty of offerings from Sun Mountain, PING, and Callaway that offer a 14-way top in the 4.5 lb range. A half pound to a pound extra strapped to your back spread across both shoulders is nothing.



    Now, with all that said, 14-way tops are really only of benefit if each individual divider goes all the way to the bottom. The point of a 14-way top is to keep the clubs more organized, but also to limit grip tangle at the bottom of the bag. If the dividers don't go all the way down then the clubs will still lean and tangle all they want, so it's still going to be frustrating getting the clubs in and out of the bag. In this case I actually prefer to have the 4-way top because it gives more room at the top of the bag to maneuver the club around when taking it in or out. It's all preference though. To some the added value of organization at the top of the bag is more beneficial than grip tangle, so having 14 full length dividers isn't a make or break option. The problem with 14 full length dividers is added cost and the fact that there are not many bags on the market that have it.



    So, what's my preference? I actually prefer a 5-way top. My current bag is the Nike Sport Lite II bag and it's incredibly lightweight which is great for walking. The top is basically a PING 4-series top with an extra well up top for the putter. It's fantastic as you have the putter in the very top section that sits just above the section for the woods. Then you split the irons in the middle sections, followed by wedges in the bottom section. This way the woods and putter headcovers don't get tangled and there's plenty of room for getting the clubs in and out.


    I'd disagree based on my experience in comparing 14 way vs 4 way stand bag weights. The 14 ways are traditionally noticeably heavier to me. For example, a SM Three 5 was always significantly lighter feeling to me vs. a Four 5. Some of that may be due to the 14 way bags typically being bulkier than their 4 way counterparts (more pockets, bells, whistles, etc.). That said, I've yet to compare a 4.5 LS 4 way to a 4.5 LS 14 way, that would be a good test and may change my perceptions.
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  • IsleOfManIsleOfMan Members Posts: 2,309 ✭✭
    Why not look at a direct comparison... C130 14-way vs C130 5-way. I can only find Amazon product weights which list the 5-way at 9 lb and the 14-way at 10 lb, but without ounces known I'd almost bet the difference is down to half an lb and rounding error. If someone can point to more accurate and precise weights, I'd love to see them.
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  • Rookie1422Rookie1422 Members Posts: 148 ✭✭
    I've got the old Sun Mountain Swift X which is only a two way divider. I love the simplicity, but every year I'm tempted to switch to a fourteen way to protect my hips and forged heads.
  • p3gap3ga Members Posts: 647 ✭✭
    Using a bag with a 14 way divider would be silly for those of us that have migrated to a minimalist (8 clubs here) approach. Prefer one divider when walking, keeps the forgings from banging into each other.
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  • pitchinwedgepitchinwedge Members Posts: 1,553 ✭✭
    Amazingly close distribution of votes:



    Cart Bag with 14-way divider - 76

    Stand Bag with 4-way divider - 91

    Stand Bag with 14-way divider - 80



    But... the 4-way standbag is winning.
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  • SebmourSebmour sebastiendamour.com Members Posts: 551 ✭✭
    14 way cart bag for my push cart and Ping hoofer for when I walk.
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  • SirPercivalSirPercival Members Posts: 35
    As I don't want to have two bags , I need one bag that suits a push cart and freedom to go to range/walking 9 holes. Have SM 3.5 today , but when on a push cart there is club tangling. Looking for a bigger bag, like the new 4.5 ls 14 way to have less club tangle and also a bigger top (10.5"). It's quite expensive though.
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  • pitchinwedgepitchinwedge Members Posts: 1,553 ✭✭
    As far as cart bags go, I've just noticed there's quite a bit of difference in the size of the top dividers. The top/dividers on my quite ancient Ping Pioneer seems to be larger than on my newer 2016 Titleist Deluxe cart bag. Hard to tell just by looking at them, but when in use, the extra size definitely makes the Ping much easier to use. I'll have to remember this the next time I'm bag shopping.
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  • lehill66lehill66 Members Posts: 94 ✭✭


    As I don't want to have two bags , I need one bag that suits a push cart and freedom to go to range/walking 9 holes. Have SM 3.5 today , but when on a push cart there is club tangling. Looking for a bigger bag, like the new 4.5 ls 14 way to have less club tangle and also a bigger top (10.5"). It's quite expensive though.




    I bought a 3.5 last month because I could get it for $120. Less than two weeks later I traded it in and bough the 4.5 LS 4-way. Had to pay an additional $100 but it is leaps and bounds better. If you walk a fair amount go with the 4 way top. I get barely any club tangle and when you walk there is virtually no chatter.
  • Fleopold11Fleopold11 Members Posts: 18
    I just switched from a 14 way to a 6 way bag and find it about the same. Pros and cons are different with each bag. So it depends on what you want to maximize around. With the 14 way love the fact that it kept the grips from tangling, but I didn't like the way I had to organize them in a circular pattern. With the 6 way I can see my clubs better and can grab multiple at once with no issue, but they get tangled sometimes.
  • IsleOfManIsleOfMan Members Posts: 2,309 ✭✭
    I'm thinking about switching to a '17 Ogio Silencer, but for no other real reason than I had some Goodwill finds that, when combined with the 50% trade bonus at RBG, will cover the cost and my total out-of-pocket will be in the $30-40 range. My curren 14-way cart bag only has full-length dividers between rows so I still get some binding, especially when on the push cart. I just have to figure out if the Silencer mechanism will play nice with my Golf Tags before pulling the trigger.
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  • pitchinwedgepitchinwedge Members Posts: 1,553 ✭✭
    I've used 14-way cart bags for years. Super annoying when a course is cart-path only. I'm actually thinking about grabbing a lightweight 4-way standbag for tournament play - eek!
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  • mjriva45mjriva45 Members Posts: 772 ✭✭
    Would much rather have a 5 or 6
  • Lefty1775Lefty1775 Members Posts: 80 ✭✭
    14-way cart bag with 14 clubs when I'm pushing/riding.



    4-way stand bag with 7 clubs when I'm carring/walking
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  • SM 2FIVE sold me on 4 way tops. I don't care for the individual slots with 14 way, can't explain it just doesn't suit my eye. Received a 14 way top when I ordered a 4 way and couldn't deal with it so I returned it. I don't think I'll ever transition away from 4 way tops.
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  • pitchinwedgepitchinwedge Members Posts: 1,553 ✭✭
    Holy cow Batman!



    Never expected it be such a close race.
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  • PepperturboPepperturbo Midwest and SouthwestMembers Posts: 15,520 ✭✭
    Recently went with Titleist Players 5 -Way, as it fits how I like my clubs separated. Good stand, yet stands upright easily. Rather light too, at 4.8lbs for walking or push cart, and well made. Plus I like the way the legs lay down flat when in push cart or golf cart.



    I looked at the 14 way, but it seemed too large in circumference and ridged when multiple bags go in the trunk.
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  • mguhlermguhler Members Posts: 720 ✭✭
    I had my pro shop order a 4.5LS 14-way for me this week. I've had a couple Titleist 14-way bags over the years, but I didn't like their color choices at all with the 2017 offerings.
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  • pitchinwedgepitchinwedge Members Posts: 1,553 ✭✭
    Eyeing the new 4 / 5 / 14 way stand bags from Titleist.
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