3 & 4 Hybrid with a 5 wood?

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bradleyguyebradleyguye  901WRX Points: 96Handicap: 5.1Lefty Boomers Posts: 901 Golden Tee
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Looking at carrying at 3 and 4 hybrid and dropping my 4 iron.. Start a set with a 5-P.



I love my 5 Wood so that will be a mainstay... Is that too many clubs for a 5 Wood, 3 hybrid and 4 hybrid?



Anybody do it now ? Just looking for some advice.. My 5 wood is 18 degrees.. The 3 hybrid is 20 with a 4 hybrid being 23.



Looking at the Apex hybrid if it matters.
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  • Tommy56Tommy56  501WRX Points: 99Handicap: 5Members Posts: 501 Golden Tee
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    I play an 18° 5w and then jump to a 23° hybrid ... works fine for me as I don't need as tight of gaps at that end of the bag.
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  • Golf64Golf64 Go Habs Go! Ontario, Canada 8101WRX Points: 330Handicap: ScotchMembers Posts: 8,101 Titanium Tees
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    No need for 3H with a 5w, IMO. I have trouble with driver, so next yr.'s set up will be 3w, 4h, 5-pw, 56*, putter. Pretty much all I need. image/wink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' />
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  • alkal11alkal11  173WRX Points: 32Members Posts: 173 Fairways
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    Tommy56 wrote:


    I play an 18° 5w and then jump to a 23° hybrid ... works fine for me as I don't need as tight of gaps at that end of the bag.




    I do the same. But my 5 wood is at 19 and hybrid is 22.
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  • Tex1986Tex1986  1771WRX Points: 79Handicap: 12Members Posts: 1,771 Bunkers
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    As long as the distance gaps work for you, the club/number on the bottom shouldn't matter.



    I've played setups with a 15*3w, 17* hybrid, 20* hybrid and there was about 10 yards between each club.

    I don't see why 18*5W, 20* and 23* hybrids wouldn't be similar.



    Definitely go hit them all on the same launch monitor to verify that the distance gapping works. Loft alone doesn't determine distance; head, shaft length, shaft flex, etc all play a part as well.
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  • Bagz1880Bagz1880  33WRX Points: 23Handicap: 17Members Posts: 33 Bunkers
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    I also think you don't need both a 3 and 4 hybrid if you're keeping the 5 wood. I usually play a 5 wood at 18* and a 22* or 23* hybrid and haven't felt the lack of an intermediate club. That said, I usually play courses which are 6200 - 6600 yards; I guess if you're playing much longer courses you might want to top-load your bag and carry both - in which case going for adjustable models rather than fixed models such as the Apex (though that is a great club) might be the way to go to get the best gapping.
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  • Argonne69Argonne69  23266WRX Points: 7,238Members Posts: 23,266 Titanium Tees
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    A hybrid is generally a club longer than the corresponding iron. I'd add a 4H and 5H, to go along with the 5-P. A 3H is likely as long as a 5W.
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  • zetazetazetazeta  115WRX Points: 32Handicap: 19.3Members Posts: 115 Bunkers
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    I hit my 5w about 10-15 yds longer than my 3h, which I think is attributable to the longer shaft and 1 degree stronger loft in the 5w. That said, I usually carry one or the other as the distances are too similar to justify both clubs in the bag.



    Have you thought about a 4w instead? That might be better for your gapping
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  • lil'mikelil'mike  1298WRX Points: 86Members Posts: 1,298 Platinum Tees
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    As others have mentioned, I too would skip the 3H and just go 5wd, 4H, 5-PW. I played that setup just yesterday and had no issues and my 5 wood too is 18 degrees but my 4H is 22 degrees but even at 23 degrees it probably wont make any difference.
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  • Argonne69Argonne69  23266WRX Points: 7,238Members Posts: 23,266 Titanium Tees
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    lil wrote:


    As others have mentioned, I too would skip the 3H and just go 5wd, 4H, 5-PW. I played that setup just yesterday and had no issues and my 5 wood too is 18 degrees but my 4H is 22 degrees but even at 23 degrees it probably wont make any difference.




    There will likely be a large gap between the 4H and 5i. By choking down on the 4H, it can serve as a 4i, and bridge the gap.
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  • AC in TXAC in TX  743WRX Points: 96Handicap: 2 HiMembers Posts: 743 Golden Tee
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    Since I set my G driver to 11.5 degrees and 5 wood to 16.5 degrees, I carry the G 3 hybrid (19 degrees) and G 4 iron (21 degrees). I should probably carry a 4 hybrid but I don't really hit woods consistently and do like the 4 iron off the tee.
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  • JohnKHawkJohnKHawk  810WRX Points: 135Handicap: 10Members Posts: 810 Golden Tee
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    I generally play this setup:

    5 wood adjustable to 17 degrees good for 225-235 yards (Sometimes I'll use a 4 wood here depending on the set & club availability)

    3 hybrid adjusted to 20 degrees good for about 210-220 yards (Again I'll sometimes switch to 7 wood depending on the set & club availability)

    4 hybrid adjusted to 23 degrees good for about 195-205 yards
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  • bradleyguyebradleyguye  901WRX Points: 96Handicap: 5.1Lefty Boomers Posts: 901 Golden Tee
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    Good to know. Sounds like I could do it but just have to choke up on some clubs which I really don't mind doing.
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  • lil'mikelil'mike  1298WRX Points: 86Members Posts: 1,298 Platinum Tees
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    Argonne69 wrote:

    lil wrote:


    As others have mentioned, I too would skip the 3H and just go 5wd, 4H, 5-PW. I played that setup just yesterday and had no issues and my 5 wood too is 18 degrees but my 4H is 22 degrees but even at 23 degrees it probably wont make any difference.




    There will likely be a large gap between the 4H and 5i. By choking down on the 4H, it can serve as a 4i, and bridge the gap.




    That is what I did when I used that setup! image/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />
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  • nova6868nova6868  4884WRX Points: 268Handicap: 2.1Members Posts: 4,884 Titanium Tees
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    I play a 14 3w, 17.5 5w, 20 3h, and 23 4i. Plenty of gaps there for me. 110ish swing speed.
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    My "3 hybrid" actually says "4h" on it but it's 21°. It fills a nice gap between the 4 hybrid and the 5 wood - roughly 220 on a mid flight. Depending on the course, I'll drop the 3h or only go with 3 wedges in a p/52/58 setup.
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  • Z1ggy16Z1ggy16  8922WRX Points: 1,202Members Posts: 8,922 Titanium Tees
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    I'd say no, but it depends on your gaps, which are based on the club and how you swing.



    Ex: I have a 3w, 5w and a 3h. I hit the 3w off the deck around 240, the 5w around 220 and the 3h around 200. the 3h is 19*, and the 5w is 18*. Even though it's only 1 degree less, the 5w goes much further because of the longer shaft (and because the 3h isn't as "hot" as others). I then play 5-pw.
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  • mcs4mcs4 South Florida 658WRX Points: 61Handicap: 12Members Posts: 658 Golden Tee
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    For me a 3 iron, 3 hybrid, and 5 wood are all too close together in distance to carry more than one out of the three. You won't know until you try them yourself though.



    Currently I carry 3 and 4 utility irons (MP-H4) and a 4 wood.
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  • Dan DrakeDan Drake  2093WRX Points: 297Handicap: 1.3Members Posts: 2,093 Platinum Tees
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    I have a 3w (14°), 2h (17°) that is very similar to a 5w, a 3h (20°), a 4i/h (24°) hollow iron, and then on to a 5i (28°).



    For my game and the courses I play, that appears to be the optimal bag setup. For now, at least. This is GolfWRX after all!



    It really is a very individual thing, but here's the "main" points:



    Do you commonly face long shots during your rounds of golf? If you do, either because you are a long hitter and go for lots of par 5's while also playing par 3's from 200yds+, or because you are a short hitter who often has long irons/hybrids into par 3's and par 4's, then it makes sense to skew your bag makeup towards the top end. The same can be said if the long shots you normally face, even if they aren't numerous, carry with them very large penalties, if not executed correctly? This sounds like it would cover the vast majority of golfers (and probably does, unfortunately) but it shouldn't, if more golfers would play the correct tees.



    Do you rarely face long shots during your round of golf? If you are playing the "correct" set of tees, you face approximately 9-11 shots each round with your wedges and short irons, 3-4 with your mid irons, and only a couple each round with your long clubs. If so, don't worry too much about the gapping on the long end of the bag. Get a bunch of wedges that you like and go make a bunch of birdies. Golf is about having fun and, last I checked, making birdies is fun!



    So, like I said, all of this is very individual and requires a good bit of honesty with yourself. Either way, good luck!
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  • Hit em goodHit em good Hit em good  2111WRX Points: 133Handicap: LowMembers Posts: 2,111 Platinum Tees
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    I go:

    3w

    5w

    7w (which is the equivalent of a 3h)

    4h

    5h



    The gaps work for me.

    My gap issue is between 5h and 6iron. It is manageable though.



    Hit em good
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  • doublehansdoublehans  652WRX Points: 64Members Posts: 652 Golden Tee
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    I used to play a 5w and 3h and it was a nice gap (I've since replaced the 5w with a 17deg 2h). But a lot depends on what you mean by 5w and 3h. My 5w was 18 deg and 3h is 21 deg. But you could also have a 19deg 5w and 19deg 3h which likely would be too close of a gap. There's quite a bit of range of lofts on 5w and 3h. 5w could be 17-19. And 3h 18-22. Plus differences in how hot the clubs are or shafts you use. So a lot is going to depend on the actual clubs you use. That said, if both clubs were the same model a 3deg gap between 5w and 3h is probably about right
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  • dan100dan100  60WRX Points: 45Members Posts: 60 Bunkers
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    I usually play driver, 3 wood tee xcg5, x2hot5 wood, Bobby jones 20/ or mizuno ez 19 (3h) and a Bobby jones 5h, 5-pw. Experimenting a little with dropping the 5 wood and adding a 4 iron. However I hit the x2 hot 5 wood longer than the 3h so it is worth me having both.
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  • GT7212GT7212  378WRX Points: 71Handicap: YesMembers Posts: 378 Greens
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    I don't see the need to carry that many clubs to accommodate the 200+ yd shots. You just don't encounter that many shots during an average round to justify having 3 clubs to manage the 30yd gap for most.
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    I prefer carrying 4 wedges to really dial in opportunities w scoring clubs
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  • RacineBoxerRacineBoxer  871WRX Points: 161Members Posts: 871 Golden Tee
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    3 wood- 250. Pretty much only used for 2nd shots on par 5's.
    5 wood -230. Used off the tee for accuracy and also for approach shots.
    4 hybrid- 217
    5 iron- 205

    IMO the clubs in this part of the bag are all about yardage gaping and what fits your eye/style. I've always liked fairway woods over hybrids but decided to give a hybrid a prolonged chance to stay in the bag this year. Some love hybrids and dislike FW's so they'd obviously swap the 5 wood with another hybrid. Again, it's all about filling those gaps.

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  • bcsquarebcsquare  294WRX Points: 46Handicap: 7.5Members Posts: 294 Greens
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    The OP doesn't mention the yardages and what gaps they are looking to address.

    I personally carry a 3w, 5w and a 4 iron. I picked up a new to me U85 23* last night and plan on testing out if I want to drop the 4 iron in favor of it. Like a previous poster said, you'll have to consider how often and the intent of those 200+ yard shots. Are you looking to close the distance on a par 5, long approaches to the green, off the tee? I don't think there's a great need to dial the in gaps so much at the top of the bag if you're intent is to use it off the tee or to close the distance on an approach.

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  • Jack PearsallJack Pearsall  3479WRX Points: 264Members Posts: 3,479 Titanium Tees
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    19* 5 wood and either a 21* DI or a 21* hybrid.
    However, there is more distance variance with the 5 wood, which Jack Pearsall likes.

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  • ChipNRunChipNRun  2048WRX Points: 449Members Posts: 2,048 Platinum Tees
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    On -, @Golf64 said:

    No need for 3H with a 5w, IMO. I have trouble with driver, so next yr.'s set up will be 3w, 4h, 5-pw, 56*, putter. Pretty much all I need. /wink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' />

    It all depends on how bg's yardage gaps play out. In my case, the distance overlap is 7W and 3H. (3H goes in bag in fall and spring when winds are higher and rough is thinner).
    Another factor is whether you have traditional hybrids - with shaft lengths between FW and numbered irons - or iron-replacement hybrids, which have pretty much same loft and shaft length as numbered irons in a set.

    bradleyguye - Consider putting your current bag mix in your sig line. That way, we know your full array of clubs, and the club models. This enables more specific replies to your posts.

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    FWs: Tour Edge XRail 4W + 7W / GraphiteDesign G60 R-flex 60 gr.
    or Calla Alpha 815, set 16° + 20° / Fuji Motore Speeder 665 R-flex 62 gr.
    Hybrid: Cobra FlyZ 3H 19° + 4H 22° / Matrix VLCT Altus Lite flex 73 gr.
    Irons: Tour Edge CB Pro Tungsten 4i - PW** / KBS Tour 90 R-flex 101 gr.
           4i refitted with SteelFiber 780 HLS Hybrid shaft R Flex 75 gr.
    Wedge: Calla MD3 48°/8.SS + 54°/12.WS + MD.PM 60°/10  | KBS Tour R-flex 110 gr.  | Note: MD4 58°/8.C-grind may replace MD/PM
    Putter: Ping Sigma G Tyne (face-balanced) / 34" w. Ping Pistol PP60 grip (stock)
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    I was having the same dilemma...decided on the Ping G410 3Hy , with the loft adjusted to 18 deg. My set is - DR, 3W(14.5), 3Hy(18),4Hy(22), 5-PW. This way, I figure the gaping and the distance will allow me to eliminate the 5W, and then I was able to add an extra wedge. I have the Ping Glide 2.0 Black 50-54 & 58 that completes my set.

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