#TheWRX: The EPIC Event at Callaway Golf. 8 Members are treated to TheWRX

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  • misplacedtexan83misplacedtexan83 Members  15689WRX Points: 634Posts: 15,689 Titanium Tees
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    mackepa wrote:


    I got to see some of the Callaway guys again at the PGA Show. They are just a fun group of guys to talk shop with. Johnny did a great job on the booth design this year.




    I feel you need to update your sig block for your wedges and add with tour issue lead tape image/wink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' />
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  • TM_HOYERTM_HOYER Members  2266WRX Points: 146Posts: 2,266 Platinum Tees
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    I do not have any numbers but I now believe what the Epic 8 were reporting. Saturday was a good news, good news, good news day. First, UPS was able to change the delivery of my Epic from Monday to Saturday (but I was supposed to get Friday). Second, I went to the range and after some warm up I found the Epic to be very forgiving. Looking at the driver after I was done, most of the hits were heal or high on the club face and they still went straight. Between the wind and temperature, it was not a good day to judge distance, but I had a cross wind and it held the wind really well. Third I found the lower back injections that I started just might work. I ignored the doctor's advice and hit some golf balls. The issues with the back afterwards was much lower than before. So once they zip the nerve in my back, I should be able to play golf pain free.
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    Callaway Epic Flash 10.5 driver w/ Fujikura Pro 2.0 R2-5
    Callaway Epic Flash 3, 5, & 7 woods w/ Fujikura Pro 2.0 R2-6
    Callaway Epic Forged 5 - GW with Project X Catalyst 60 5.5 soft stepped once
    Callaway MD4 56 & 60 w/ Project X LZ 5.5
    Toulon Design Palm Beach
    Callaway Chrome Soft
  • therealjonzonetherealjonzone Members  2693WRX Points: 326Handicap: 2.9Posts: 2,693 Titanium Tees
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    TM_HOYER wrote:


    I do not have any numbers but I now believe what the Epic 8 were reporting. Saturday was a good news, good news, good news day. First, UPS was able to change the delivery of my Epic from Monday to Saturday (but I was supposed to get Friday). Second, I went to the range and after some warm up I found the Epic to be very forgiving. Looking at the driver after I was done, most of the hits were heal or high on the club face and they still went straight. Between the wind and temperature, it was not a good day to judge distance, but I had a cross wind and it held the wind really well. Third I found the lower back injections that I started just might work. I ignored the doctor's advice and hit some golf balls. The issues with the back afterwards was much lower than before. So once they zip the nerve in my back, I should be able to play golf pain free.




    "I ignored the doctor's advice...."



    That always works out well....
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  • TM_HOYERTM_HOYER Members  2266WRX Points: 146Posts: 2,266 Platinum Tees
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    TM_HOYER wrote:


    I do not have any numbers but I now believe what the Epic 8 were reporting. Saturday was a good news, good news, good news day. First, UPS was able to change the delivery of my Epic from Monday to Saturday (but I was supposed to get Friday). Second, I went to the range and after some warm up I found the Epic to be very forgiving. Looking at the driver after I was done, most of the hits were heal or high on the club face and they still went straight. Between the wind and temperature, it was not a good day to judge distance, but I had a cross wind and it held the wind really well. Third I found the lower back injections that I started just might work. I ignored the doctor's advice and hit some golf balls. The issues with the back afterwards was much lower than before. So once they zip the nerve in my back, I should be able to play golf pain free.




    "I ignored the doctor's advice...."



    That always works out well....




    I just received my Epic so I had to try it out. I only hit around 35 balls. It is now going to sit until late March when all of the procedures are done and healed. I am going through the sequence of epidural, facet block, and rhizotomy. I just could not wait until the middle of next week to hit it after all of the hype around it.
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    Callaway Epic Flash 10.5 driver w/ Fujikura Pro 2.0 R2-5
    Callaway Epic Flash 3, 5, & 7 woods w/ Fujikura Pro 2.0 R2-6
    Callaway Epic Forged 5 - GW with Project X Catalyst 60 5.5 soft stepped once
    Callaway MD4 56 & 60 w/ Project X LZ 5.5
    Toulon Design Palm Beach
    Callaway Chrome Soft
  • MtlJeffMtlJeff MontrealMembers  29446WRX Points: 2,375Handicap: 0.0Posts: 29,446 Titanium Tees
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    I feel like "The Epic 8" is a bit pompous. I pitched "The Hateful 8" in our threads many times but in the end people i don't think ended up hating us as much as predicted. Originally I figured the GolfWRX community and this trip was to me, like talking to girls at bars in University. If i could make it through the night without them hating me i've really accomplished something.



    Anyway, that's neither here nor there.



    Yeah the Epic is a great club



    On another note, i'm wondering what the statute of limitations is on updating my signature to say that i'm probably gonna play my SGC Northwood putter this year. It's a **** a** putter that i spent my hard earned yet worthless Canadian currency on
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  • TM_HOYERTM_HOYER Members  2266WRX Points: 146Posts: 2,266 Platinum Tees
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    MtlJeff wrote:


    I feel like "The Epic 8" is a bit pompous. I pitched "The Hateful 8" in our threads many times but in the end people i don't think ended up hating us as much as predicted. Originally I figured the GolfWRX community and this trip was to me, like talking to girls at bars in University. If i could make it through the night without them hating me i've really accomplished something.



    Anyway, that's neither here nor there.



    Yeah the Epic is a great club



    On another note, i'm wondering what the statute of limitations is on updating my signature to say that i'm probably gonna play my SGC Northwood putter this year. It's a **** a** putter that i spent my hard earned yet worthless Canadian currency on




    You guys got it easy. I was one of the people sent to report on the TaylorMade RSi iron launch at various locations. Every TM troll and hater went after us with us reporting the results of face slots. As it is, I cannot complain about the eight of you being selected. You gave us a lot of good info and while you were at Callaway, I was playing a couple rounds of golf at Bay Hill. So I was OK.
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    Callaway Epic Flash 10.5 driver w/ Fujikura Pro 2.0 R2-5
    Callaway Epic Flash 3, 5, & 7 woods w/ Fujikura Pro 2.0 R2-6
    Callaway Epic Forged 5 - GW with Project X Catalyst 60 5.5 soft stepped once
    Callaway MD4 56 & 60 w/ Project X LZ 5.5
    Toulon Design Palm Beach
    Callaway Chrome Soft
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  • mackepamackepa #TheWRX Members  3735WRX Points: 288Posts: 3,735 Titanium Tees
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    TM_HOYER wrote:

    MtlJeff wrote:


    I feel like "The Epic 8" is a bit pompous. I pitched "The Hateful 8" in our threads many times but in the end people i don't think ended up hating us as much as predicted. Originally I figured the GolfWRX community and this trip was to me, like talking to girls at bars in University. If i could make it through the night without them hating me i've really accomplished something.



    Anyway, that's neither here nor there.



    Yeah the Epic is a great club



    On another note, i'm wondering what the statute of limitations is on updating my signature to say that i'm probably gonna play my SGC Northwood putter this year. It's a **** a** putter that i spent my hard earned yet worthless Canadian currency on




    You guys got it easy. I was one of the people sent to report on the TaylorMade RSi iron launch at various locations. Every TM troll and hater went after us with us reporting the results of face slots. As it is, I cannot complain about the eight of you being selected. You gave us a lot of good info and while you were at Callaway, I was playing a couple rounds of golf at Bay Hill. So I was OK.




    I think we had a great group of guys go and the responses of guys following along were for the most part very constructive. There's trolls for every brand and it's hard not to snap back. Taylormade and Callaway probably get the brunt of them though.



    Speaking of Taylormade, I see Golfwrx has another trip planned and is taking a few WRXers to their facility. That should be a great time and I'm excited to see who gets picked. These OEM's are really going out of their way to involve the consumer more and more.
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    Epic Flash SZ 15* AD IZ 8
    Epic Flash TC 18.5* Kai Li 80
    X Forged Utility 22* $-Taper
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    MD4 52s, 56s, 60x - $-Taper
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  • gregh729gregh729 #TheWRX 2016 Members  3140WRX Points: 732Posts: 3,140 Titanium Tees
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    mackepa wrote:




    I think we had a great group of guys go and the responses of guys following along were for the most part very constructive. There's trolls for every brand and it's hard not to snap back. Taylormade and Callaway probably get the brunt of them though.



    Speaking of Taylormade, I see Golfwrx has another trip planned and is taking a few WRXers to their facility. That should be a great time and I'm excited to see who gets picked. These OEM's are really going out of their way to involve the consumer more and more.




    We did have a great group. We got along great together, gave each other the needle at times, and just had a blast
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  • GC70GC70 What's Next? State of HockeyClubWRX  7744WRX Points: 301Handicap: 7.1Posts: 7,744 Titanium Tees
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    MtlJeff wrote:


    I feel like "The Epic 8" is a bit pompous. I pitched "The Hateful 8" in our threads many times but in the end people i don't think ended up hating us as much as predicted. Originally I figured the GolfWRX community and this trip was to me, like talking to girls at bars in University. If i could make it through the night without them hating me i've really accomplished something.



    Anyway, that's neither here nor there.



    Yeah the Epic is a great club



    On another note, i'm wondering what the statute of limitations is on updating my signature to say that i'm probably gonna play my SGC Northwood putter this year. It's a **** a** putter that i spent my hard earned yet worthless Canadian currency on




    You go ahead and change your signature! You play what works don't matter if it was given to you or you paid for it!
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  • PuppetmasterPuppetmaster Members  15051WRX Points: 449Posts: 15,051 Titanium Tees
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    MtlJeff wrote:


    I feel like "The Epic 8" is a bit pompous. I pitched "The Hateful 8" in our threads many times but in the end people i don't think ended up hating us as much as predicted. Originally I figured the GolfWRX community and this trip was to me, like talking to girls at bars in University. If i could make it through the night without them hating me i've really accomplished something.




    How about the Hans Gruber 8?
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  • Dscvrr St LouisDscvrr St Louis #CALLAWRX 12/12/12 & HOGAN Ft Worth ClubWRX  5439WRX Points: 184Handicap: 3.9Posts: 5,439 Titanium Tees
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    MtlJeff wrote:


    I feel like "The Epic 8" is a bit pompous. I pitched "The Hateful 8" in our threads many times but in the end people i don't think ended up hating us as much as predicted. Originally I figured the GolfWRX community and this trip was to me, like talking to girls at bars in University. If i could make it through the night without them hating me i've really accomplished something.



    Anyway, that's neither here nor there.



    Yeah the Epic is a great club



    On another note, i'm wondering what the statute of limitations is on updating my signature to say that i'm probably gonna play my SGC Northwood putter this year. It's a **** a** putter that i spent my hard earned yet worthless Canadian currency on




    Just put both putters in your sig and rotate, I used to list all my putters since they ALL were in play on any given week due to poor performance from the previous week...lol!! But eventually narrowed down to 2, or 3, or 4 instead of 9!!
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    Callaway Epic Flash SZ 15 VA Composites Drago 75 04
    Callaway 816 Alpha Hybrid 19* Veylix Rome 888 S
    Callaway 2019 Apex Pro DOT 4-PW/ Epon AF-305 4- PW both Mitsubishi MMT 125 TX Graphite
    Odyssey WHP #3, Toulon Long Island Garage-Stability Shaft, Toulon Palm Beach, Toulon Azalea
    Callaway MD5 Jaws Tour Grey 50/54/58 and  Cobra Tour Versatile 50/54/58 Mitsubishi MMT 125TX Graphite
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  • WaterboyWaterboy #TheWRX Members  1313WRX Points: 120Posts: 1,313 Platinum Tees
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    MtlJeff wrote:




    On another note, i'm wondering what the statute of limitations is on updating my signature to say that i'm probably gonna play my SGC Northwood putter this year. It's a **** a** putter that i spent my hard earned yet worthless Canadian currency on




    Jeff - You are actually the last person I would have expected to worry about putting a different putter in play then what was given to you at TheWRX.



    I can't remember which one you ended up with but I brought along only the O-Works on my last trip and by the last day I was really starting to like it. It definitely has a different feel from the typical milled putter, its softer, but I could really tell that the ball would start rolling on its line a lot sooner after strike.



    I'm going to use it once the courses open back up near me. I may experiment with a different head shape just to look at something different.
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  • sandiegonativesandiegonative Lefty Boomers  878WRX Points: 62Posts: 878 Golden Tee
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    Hot Rod 71 wrote:


    First and foremost I have to send out a huge thanks to Callaway and GolfWRX for providing this opportunity. I had the trip of a lifetime and I feel like I cannot say "thank you" enough. When I was first contacted by HipCheck and asked if I would like to attend I was completely stunned. I wrote back "**** yes!", which I still don't think really conveyed how excited I was. Over the next few weeks the 8 of us were connecting through a group PM (along with HipCheck and Zak) so we could converse and get to know each other. Our chat is still going and I think is over 60 pages long.



    I took a lot more photos than I have shared here, but in an effort to not re-post those photos other participants have shared or that I have already shared within the thread, I left them out.



    Without further ado, here it is.......



    The night before I left for the trip I was contacted by Johnny Rodriguez, a Callaway representative. He informed me and everyone else that he was to be our group leader and would take care of whatever we needed. The entire group was participating in a group text that had my phone dinging constantly. So much for sleep! Sunday morning I awoke before the sun so I could be at the airport by 5:15 to catch my flight out of Richmond to Dallas, where I had a short layover before heading to San Diego. I met up with Paul (Mackepa)in the airport and we chatted until we had to board the plane. Unfortunately we sat a mile apart on the airbus.



    We landed around noon in San Diego we were met at the front door by a driver holding a Callaway sign. We followed him to the car (a nice BMW limo) and off we went, heading to the hotel which was about 30-40 minutes away. Once we arrived, Johnny was waiting for us. All I can say about Johnny is: what an awesome guy! He gave us our room keys and told us to get settle and come back down for a meet and greet. When I arrived at my room I couldn’t believe my eyes; the swag was in full effect already!





    Hot Rod,



    How's it going buddy. I can't decide between the two EPIC heads. Can you elaborate why you went with Standard over SZ? Assuming you tried both, what were your numbers?
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  • misplacedtexan83misplacedtexan83 Members  15689WRX Points: 634Posts: 15,689 Titanium Tees
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    SZ for people that need help with spin and GBB is for people that need help with direction. Honestly, it seems to be 50/50 on what driver is better for a person. SZ slightly open compare to GBB with a slightly draw bias. Start with a 9* head if the draw bias is a no go for you.



    Try both and see what produces the best numbers with the same shaft but consistency should be important as well, IMO.
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  • Hot Rod 71Hot Rod 71 #TheWRX ClubWRX, BST Volunteer Mods  8967WRX Points: 315Handicap: lowPosts: 8,967 ClubWRX
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    Hot Rod,



    How's it going buddy. I can't decide between the two EPIC heads. Can you elaborate why you went with Standard over SZ? Assuming you tried both, what were your numbers?




    The standard Epic gave me more favorable numbers and better dispersion. Spin was too low with the SZ. I was getting ~2200 with the standard and the fitter said that was perfect for my launch angle and swing speed.



    I also like to have the ability to hit a draw with the driver and I struggled to do so with the SZ.
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  • sandiegonativesandiegonative Lefty Boomers  878WRX Points: 62Posts: 878 Golden Tee
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    SZ for people that need help with spin and GBB is for people that need help with direction. Honestly, it seems to be 50/50 on what driver is better for a person. SZ slightly open compare to GBB with a slightly draw bias. Start with a 9* head if the draw bias is a no go for you.



    Try both and see what produces the best numbers with the same shaft but consistency should be important as well, IMO.




    I was able to demo both heads. Unfortunately, the Callaway Demo guys forgot to charge their TrackMan so I wasn't able to get any numbers. Both heads felt great with the standard head "Apex height" being higher than the SZ (as expected).
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    TM_HOYER wrote:


    I do not have any numbers but I now believe what the Epic 8 were reporting. Saturday was a good news, good news, good news day. First, UPS was able to change the delivery of my Epic from Monday to Saturday (but I was supposed to get Friday). Second, I went to the range and after some warm up I found the Epic to be very forgiving. Looking at the driver after I was done, most of the hits were heal or high on the club face and they still went straight. Between the wind and temperature, it was not a good day to judge distance, but I had a cross wind and it held the wind really well. Third I found the lower back injections that I started just might work. I ignored the doctor's advice and hit some golf balls. The issues with the back afterwards was much lower than before. So once they zip the nerve in my back, I should be able to play golf pain free.




    "I ignored the doctor's advice...."


    HaHa, that should be my epitaph...



    And no, it hasn't always worked out well, but I wouldn't trade one single memory, lol😜



    All the Best,

    RP
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  • sandiegonativesandiegonative Lefty Boomers  878WRX Points: 62Posts: 878 Golden Tee
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    Hot Rod 71 wrote:


    Hot Rod,



    How's it going buddy. I can't decide between the two EPIC heads. Can you elaborate why you went with Standard over SZ? Assuming you tried both, what were your numbers?




    The standard Epic gave me more favorable numbers and better dispersion. Spin was too low with the SZ. I was getting ~2200 with the standard and the fitter said that was perfect for my launch angle and swing speed.



    I also like to have the ability to hit a draw with the driver and I struggled to do so with the SZ.




    Thanks Hot Rod
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    TM_HOYER wrote:


    I do not have any numbers but I now believe what the Epic 8 were reporting. Saturday was a good news, good news, good news day. First, UPS was able to change the delivery of my Epic from Monday to Saturday (but I was supposed to get Friday). Second, I went to the range and after some warm up I found the Epic to be very forgiving. Looking at the driver after I was done, most of the hits were heal or high on the club face and they still went straight. Between the wind and temperature, it was not a good day to judge distance, but I had a cross wind and it held the wind really well. Third I found the lower back injections that I started just might work. I ignored the doctor's advice and hit some golf balls. The issues with the back afterwards was much lower than before. So once they zip the nerve in my back, I should be able to play golf pain free.




    "I ignored the doctor's advice...."


    HaHa, that should be my epitaph...



    And no, it hasn't worked out well, but I wouldn't trade one single memory, lol😜



    All the Best,

    RP




    It only took me 5 years to get my official Richard response! I now feel officially a WRX'er....
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    TM_HOYER wrote:


    I do not have any numbers but I now believe what the Epic 8 were reporting. Saturday was a good news, good news, good news day. First, UPS was able to change the delivery of my Epic from Monday to Saturday (but I was supposed to get Friday). Second, I went to the range and after some warm up I found the Epic to be very forgiving. Looking at the driver after I was done, most of the hits were heal or high on the club face and they still went straight. Between the wind and temperature, it was not a good day to judge distance, but I had a cross wind and it held the wind really well. Third I found the lower back injections that I started just might work. I ignored the doctor's advice and hit some golf balls. The issues with the back afterwards was much lower than before. So once they zip the nerve in my back, I should be able to play golf pain free.




    "I ignored the doctor's advice...."


    HaHa, that should be my epitaph...



    And no, it hasn't worked out well, but I wouldn't trade one single memory, lol&#55357;&#56860;



    All the Best,

    RP




    It only took me 5 years to get my official Richard response! I now feel officially a WRX'er....




    I remember my first Richard response like it was yesterday.
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  • vernonvernon Rock Chalk! Members  1295WRX Points: 202Posts: 1,295 Platinum Tees
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    TM_HOYER wrote:


    TM_HOYER wrote:


    I do not have any numbers but I now believe what the Epic 8 were reporting. Saturday was a good news, good news, good news day. First, UPS was able to change the delivery of my Epic from Monday to Saturday (but I was supposed to get Friday). Second, I went to the range and after some warm up I found the Epic to be very forgiving. Looking at the driver after I was done, most of the hits were heal or high on the club face and they still went straight. Between the wind and temperature, it was not a good day to judge distance, but I had a cross wind and it held the wind really well. Third I found the lower back injections that I started just might work. I ignored the doctor's advice and hit some golf balls. The issues with the back afterwards was much lower than before. So once they zip the nerve in my back, I should be able to play golf pain free.




    "I ignored the doctor's advice...."



    That always works out well....




    I just received my Epic so I had to try it out. I only hit around 35 balls. It is now going to sit until late March when all of the procedures are done and healed. I am going through the sequence of epidural, facet block, and rhizotomy. I just could not wait until the middle of next week to hit it after all of the hype around it.
    I've been having the same treatment for about six years now and it's been a game changer for me. I don't know how much difference there is in the terminology but my deal has been epidural, medial branch block and radio frequency ablation. I've mixed in a couple of chiropractic treatments as well.



    So far as ignoring the doc's advice, my guy told me it was OK to play nine holes about four or five hours after an injection. Zapping the nerves is a little bit different deal though. I didn't really feel like hitting balls after that. Just had my third ablation a couple of weeks ago. Mine seem to last about two years before the nerves regenerate and we have to wack em' again.



    Sure beats the constant pain I was in for years prior that's for sure.
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    thx for the info about the trip, wish i was there
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    I just received my Epic so I had to try it out. I only hit around 35 balls. It is now going to sit until late March when all of the procedures are done and healed. I am going through the sequence of epidural, facet block, and rhizotomy. I just could not wait until the middle of next week to hit it after all of the hype around it.
    I've been having the same treatment for about six years now and it's been a game changer for me. I don't know how much difference there is in the terminology but my deal has been epidural, medial branch block and radio frequency ablation. I've mixed in a couple of chiropractic treatments as well.



    So far as ignoring the doc's advice, my guy told me it was OK to play nine holes about four or five hours after an injection. Zapping the nerves is a little bit different deal though. I didn't really feel like hitting balls after that. Just had my third ablation a couple of weeks ago. Mine seem to last about two years before the nerves regenerate and we have to wack em' again.



    Sure beats the constant pain I was in for years prior that's for sure.




    It is the same thing. One doctor uses the names I listed and another doctor uses the names you listed. My doctor said no hitting balls for one month after an injection. I have had pain after golf and occasionally during golf since 1989. And it is difficult to play two days in a row. I am glad to hear yours works and hope when I am done that I will be pain free. In April I plan to go down to Bay Hill to play some golf to celebrate my 60th birthday and I hope to do it pain free.
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    To the Epic 8 or anyone else. Sorry I haven't gone through all 66 pages but I'd really like to know if anyone switched from an XR16 Pro? I was able to get a near new 9* recently. I set it to 10* neutral and it has the Evo II speeder ts. I finally got to take it to the course today and holy smokes it is a beast. I played it on the back 9 and drove the ball better than I have in quite some time. It immediately benched a 917 D3. I was 10-15 yards longer than I've ever been on most of those holes. To anyone that has hit both, is it worth the 5 bills to switch to the Epic? Epic would have to be a monster to beat out what I saw today.
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    TM_HOYER wrote:

    vernon wrote:

    TM_HOYER wrote:


    I just received my Epic so I had to try it out. I only hit around 35 balls. It is now going to sit until late March when all of the procedures are done and healed. I am going through the sequence of epidural, facet block, and rhizotomy. I just could not wait until the middle of next week to hit it after all of the hype around it.
    I've been having the same treatment for about six years now and it's been a game changer for me. I don't know how much difference there is in the terminology but my deal has been epidural, medial branch block and radio frequency ablation. I've mixed in a couple of chiropractic treatments as well.



    So far as ignoring the doc's advice, my guy told me it was OK to play nine holes about four or five hours after an injection. Zapping the nerves is a little bit different deal though. I didn't really feel like hitting balls after that. Just had my third ablation a couple of weeks ago. Mine seem to last about two years before the nerves regenerate and we have to wack em' again.



    Sure beats the constant pain I was in for years prior that's for sure.




    It is the same thing. One doctor uses the names I listed and another doctor uses the names you listed. My doctor said no hitting balls for one month after an injection. I have had pain after golf and occasionally during golf since 1989. And it is difficult to play two days in a row. I am glad to hear yours works and hope when I am done that I will be pain free. In April I plan to go down to Bay Hill to play some golf to celebrate my 60th birthday and I hope to do it pain free.
    Wow. A month! My doc's a golfer so I don't know if that's got anything to do with it but as we've gotten to know each other better he's become much less strict with the "doctors orders" stuff. Even after an ablation he's fine with me resuming normal activities the next day. I usually have some soreness for up to a week but no big deal. In fact, I always refuse the hydrocodone they prescribe afterwards. I hate that stuff for one thing but I just don't think that the discomfort warrants the opioids.



    I'll be 64 the end of March so we're somewhat close in age although I don't know if that really matters much as everybody's different. I initially hurt mine as a firefighter back in 1981. Fell off of a house roof and landed on my air pack. So that's 35 years of it and nothing has helped as much as the injection/ablation route.



    I've had the same procedure twice on my neck as well. Enjoyed a double whiplash from being rear ended on an interstate five years ago that resulted in two cervical discs being crushed. That one forced me to retire but, again, the injections have been a godsend. Lost most of my range of motion insofar as turning my head but controlling the pain is all that matters if you ask me.



    I don't know that I can say that I'm "pain free" but the improvement is beyond significant. If you're like me you will still have to be sensible about stuff like yard work and other household chores as excess always puts me back down for a while -although now it's for a few hours as opposed to days or weeks like previously. Keep your weight under control and try and strengthen your core muscles and you should be good to go. I always ice my back after exertion as well just as preventive measure. Helps keep any inflammation under control and I always seem to feel better the next day.



    Best of luck.
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    jwo wrote:


    To the Epic 8 or anyone else. Sorry I haven't gone through all 66 pages but I'd really like to know if anyone switched from an XR16 Pro? I was able to get a near new 9* recently. I set it to 10* neutral and it has the Evo II speeder ts. I finally got to take it to the course today and holy smokes it is a beast. I played it on the back 9 and drove the ball better than I have in quite some time. It immediately benched a 917 D3. I was 10-15 yards longer than I've ever been on most of those holes. To anyone that has hit both, is it worth the 5 bills to switch to the Epic? Epic would have to be a monster to beat out what I saw today.


    I didn't switch from the XR16 pro, but I did hit it a few times when I was fit for the Epic SZ. I actually liked the XR16 a lot, but for me, the thing that stood out the most for me with the Epic is even while being long, the thing only wanted to go straight. Even if I hit the ball offline, it was straight where I was aiming.



    I didn't get a 14mph jump in ballspeed or anything but my issue has been directional control. I saw maybe 4 mph jump in ballspeed over my gamer and was getting an extra 10 yards or so with the rollout from lowering my spin. It just sets up really nice for my eye and was able to consistently find the middle of the face.



    For me it was worth the money. When my driving is good, I score well. When my driving is poor, my entire game struggles. I feel like I have found a new confidence off the tee and about my game for the coming year just because I have belief that I will hit the ball in the middle. YMMV
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    vernon wrote:

    TM_HOYER wrote:

    vernon wrote:

    TM_HOYER wrote:


    I just received my Epic so I had to try it out. I only hit around 35 balls. It is now going to sit until late March when all of the procedures are done and healed. I am going through the sequence of epidural, facet block, and rhizotomy. I just could not wait until the middle of next week to hit it after all of the hype around it.
    I've been having the same treatment for about six years now and it's been a game changer for me. I don't know how much difference there is in the terminology but my deal has been epidural, medial branch block and radio frequency ablation. I've mixed in a couple of chiropractic treatments as well.



    So far as ignoring the doc's advice, my guy told me it was OK to play nine holes about four or five hours after an injection. Zapping the nerves is a little bit different deal though. I didn't really feel like hitting balls after that. Just had my third ablation a couple of weeks ago. Mine seem to last about two years before the nerves regenerate and we have to wack em' again.



    Sure beats the constant pain I was in for years prior that's for sure.




    It is the same thing. One doctor uses the names I listed and another doctor uses the names you listed. My doctor said no hitting balls for one month after an injection. I have had pain after golf and occasionally during golf since 1989. And it is difficult to play two days in a row. I am glad to hear yours works and hope when I am done that I will be pain free. In April I plan to go down to Bay Hill to play some golf to celebrate my 60th birthday and I hope to do it pain free.
    Wow. A month! My doc's a golfer so I don't know if that's got anything to do with it but as we've gotten to know each other better he's become much less strict with the "doctors orders" stuff. Even after an ablation he's fine with me resuming normal activities the next day. I usually have some soreness for up to a week but no big deal. In fact, I always refuse the hydrocodone they prescribe afterwards. I hate that stuff for one thing but I just don't think that the discomfort warrants the opioids.



    I'll be 64 the end of March so we're somewhat close in age although I don't know if that really matters much as everybody's different. I initially hurt mine as a firefighter back in 1981. Fell off of a house roof and landed on my air pack. So that's 35 years of it and nothing has helped as much as the injection/ablation route.



    I've had the same procedure twice on my neck as well. Enjoyed a double whiplash from being rear ended on an interstate five years ago that resulted in two cervical discs being crushed. That one forced me to retire but, again, the injections have been a godsend. Lost most of my range of motion insofar as turning my head but controlling the pain is all that matters if you ask me.



    I don't know that I can say that I'm "pain free" but the improvement is beyond significant. If you're like me you will still have to be sensible about stuff like yard work and other household chores as excess always puts me back down for a while -although now it's for a few hours as opposed to days or weeks like previously. Keep your weight under control and try and strengthen your core muscles and you should be good to go. I always ice my back after exertion as well just as preventive measure. Helps keep any inflammation under control and I always seem to feel better the next day.



    Best of luck.




    Thanks for sharing your experience. Hopefully I am as happy when I get done with the procedures. Based on the epidural I think I am on the right path. My lower back has not been this good in a long time. I get the facet block on Thursday. I will see what the doctor says then about hitting golf balls after the block.
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  • vernonvernon Rock Chalk! Members  1295WRX Points: 202Posts: 1,295 Platinum Tees
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    TM_HOYER wrote:

    vernon wrote:

    TM_HOYER wrote:

    vernon wrote:

    TM_HOYER wrote:


    I just received my Epic so I had to try it out. I only hit around 35 balls. It is now going to sit until late March when all of the procedures are done and healed. I am going through the sequence of epidural, facet block, and rhizotomy. I just could not wait until the middle of next week to hit it after all of the hype around it.
    I've been having the same treatment for about six years now and it's been a game changer for me. I don't know how much difference there is in the terminology but my deal has been epidural, medial branch block and radio frequency ablation. I've mixed in a couple of chiropractic treatments as well.



    So far as ignoring the doc's advice, my guy told me it was OK to play nine holes about four or five hours after an injection. Zapping the nerves is a little bit different deal though. I didn't really feel like hitting balls after that. Just had my third ablation a couple of weeks ago. Mine seem to last about two years before the nerves regenerate and we have to wack em' again.



    Sure beats the constant pain I was in for years prior that's for sure.




    It is the same thing. One doctor uses the names I listed and another doctor uses the names you listed. My doctor said no hitting balls for one month after an injection. I have had pain after golf and occasionally during golf since 1989. And it is difficult to play two days in a row. I am glad to hear yours works and hope when I am done that I will be pain free. In April I plan to go down to Bay Hill to play some golf to celebrate my 60th birthday and I hope to do it pain free.
    Wow. A month! My doc's a golfer so I don't know if that's got anything to do with it but as we've gotten to know each other better he's become much less strict with the "doctors orders" stuff. Even after an ablation he's fine with me resuming normal activities the next day. I usually have some soreness for up to a week but no big deal. In fact, I always refuse the hydrocodone they prescribe afterwards. I hate that stuff for one thing but I just don't think that the discomfort warrants the opioids.



    I'll be 64 the end of March so we're somewhat close in age although I don't know if that really matters much as everybody's different. I initially hurt mine as a firefighter back in 1981. Fell off of a house roof and landed on my air pack. So that's 35 years of it and nothing has helped as much as the injection/ablation route.



    I've had the same procedure twice on my neck as well. Enjoyed a double whiplash from being rear ended on an interstate five years ago that resulted in two cervical discs being crushed. That one forced me to retire but, again, the injections have been a godsend. Lost most of my range of motion insofar as turning my head but controlling the pain is all that matters if you ask me.



    I don't know that I can say that I'm "pain free" but the improvement is beyond significant. If you're like me you will still have to be sensible about stuff like yard work and other household chores as excess always puts me back down for a while -although now it's for a few hours as opposed to days or weeks like previously. Keep your weight under control and try and strengthen your core muscles and you should be good to go. I always ice my back after exertion as well just as preventive measure. Helps keep any inflammation under control and I always seem to feel better the next day.



    Best of luck.




    Thanks for sharing your experience. Hopefully I am as happy when I get done with the procedures. Based on the epidural I think I am on the right path. My lower back has not been this good in a long time. I get the facet block on Thursday. I will see what the doctor says then about hitting golf balls after the block.
    Please don't interpret what I stated as encouragement to disregard your doctor's directives. It didn't occur to me that it might have come across that way until I reread my post. He's obviously a helluva lot smarter than I am and if you're like me the last that you need is another smartazz influencing you to do even more stupid stuff!



    I get the sense that we're both the kind of guys that probably played football, basketball and baseball with torn and sprained tendons and ligaments, cracked bones and jammed joints. The problem is, you're only eight foot tall and bulletproof for so long. After that, you're just stupid. Learning where the breaking point occurs is kind of important in how your quality of life will shake out for whatever productive future you have left. I've always erred on the side of doing more rather than less but even that has its limitations.



    I will say, however, that when undergoing the "block" be sure to listen VERY carefully to the doc and make sure that you provide him with the most accurate feedback possible when he asks about pain, tingling, etc. as he maneuvers the needle around. Any misinterpretation of this process could result in him burning out the wrong nerve clusters. Not that that in and of itself is harmful it's just that the offending nerves will remain unaffected as will your pain.



    Also, be patient regarding the recovery. The burned nerves will be very "angry" for up to three weeks and it can take that long for them to actually "die". In my case, I always feel way better immediately after the procedure but that's primary due to the numbing agents injected in the area prior to the procedure - much like the epidural and block. However, within a couple of days you might notice a slight increase in discomfort as the anesthesia wears off and the nerves start throwing tantrums. Do not despair - it's just part of the deal. In fact, I have found that the journey to "pain free" sometimes is akin to when your foot falls asleep. It's somewhat uncomfortable while it's "waking up" but then suddenly and almost without you even realizing it, it's awake and back to normal. It's not always (in fact, seldom) a night to day deal.



    Again, best of luck. If you have any specific questions that I might be able to help answer feel free to PM me. I know that going into it for the first time can be a little daunting and mess with your head. I'm no doc but I am a "veteran" of the war on back pain!
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    Please don't interpret what I stated as encouragement to disregard your doctor's directives. It didn't occur to me that it might have come across that way until I reread my post. He's obviously a helluva lot smarter than I am and if you're like me the last that you need is another smartazz influencing you to do even more stupid stuff!



    I get the sense that we're both the kind of guys that probably played football, basketball and baseball with torn and sprained tendons and ligaments, cracked bones and jammed joints. The problem is, you're only eight foot tall and bulletproof for so long. After that, you're just stupid. Learning where the breaking point occurs is kind of important in how your quality of life will shake out for whatever productive future you have left. I've always erred on the side of doing more rather than less but even that has its limitations.



    I will say, however, that when undergoing the "block" be sure to listen VERY carefully to the doc and make sure that you provide him with the most accurate feedback possible when he asks about pain, tingling, etc. as he maneuvers the needle around. Any misinterpretation of this process could result in him burning out the wrong nerve clusters. Not that that in and of itself is harmful it's just that the offending nerves will remain unaffected as will your pain.



    Also, be patient regarding the recovery. The burned nerves will be very "angry" for up to three weeks and it can take that long for them to actually "die". In my case, I always feel way better immediately after the procedure but that's primary due to the numbing agents injected in the area prior to the procedure - much like the epidural and block. However, within a couple of days you might notice a slight increase in discomfort as the anesthesia wears off and the nerves start throwing tantrums. Do not despair - it's just part of the deal. In fact, I have found that the journey to "pain free" sometimes is akin to when your foot falls asleep. It's somewhat uncomfortable while it's "waking up" but then suddenly and almost without you even realizing it, it's awake and back to normal. It's not always (in fact, seldom) a night to day deal.



    Again, best of luck. If you have any specific questions that I might be able to help answer feel free to PM me. I know that going into it for the first time can be a little daunting and mess with your head. I'm no doc but I am a "veteran" of the war on back pain!




    When I tried out the Epic driver, I knew the few shots I did hit were not going to damage anything. I'm doing the procedures now so I will be ready when spring comes. Also I realize everyone's situation is different. I have issues with every disc between L2 and S1 with two of them herniated. But the MRI identified the specific area that is causing the pain. Last winter I had surgery on my left index finger and waited well past the time the doctor said before I started to hit balls. I knew I was not ready and if I did starting balls, my grip would cause issues and change my swing. My goal to be ready to head down to Bay Hill at the end of April to celebrate my 60th birthday.
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    I don't post very often, but I have read every page of this thread at one point or another, as well as many other topics on this amazing site. To the 8 that went, were any of you fit into a shaft or shaft/head combo that maybe you didn't expect... i.e. Shaft weight, flex, launch characteristics,, etc?



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