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  • SaskwatchSaskwatch Putting From The Rough 548WRX Points: 82Members Posts: 548
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    I've been seeing a lot of Instagram posts of this training system. Thoughts? What's the difference between this and an Orange Whip or a SKLZ Gold Flex besides the 3 different weighted clubs?!
    I have been at it for 2 weeks now. SS before was 105 consistently, now 107... I have also being using the SOMAX, so I am not sure which is contributing to the increase but I am excited for the future for sure...




    I can't believe anyone bought a somax.image/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' /> The golf part of the site isn't too bad (not saying it is great) but the rest of the site is pure crackpot:)




    I haven't found one golfer who has legitimately used it!



    Anyone?




    I bought a used one locally. I used it for 5 months pretty seriously. It dramatically increased my hip speed and power, however I personally had a hard time translating that into any clubhead increases. My SS going in was 117 and coming out was still 117. I lost a decent amount of fat around the mid section and my ball striking with my irons improved greatly. My scores never really changed however.



    I was also playing hockey and attempting the gym and other various outdoor activities during my use with Somax. This may have not been been the best scenario for usage. I ultimately stopped using the device as it kept aggravating a prior injury in my right foot which made golfing and using the device for prolonged periods very painful.



    I feel the device is a great way to strengthen hip rotation and work on separation.
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  • HondabuffHondabuff PA 1494WRX Points: 123Members Posts: 1,494
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    I always wondered about the Somax after seeing the videos because the left hip raises as the right hip lowers and drives through on your swing. Using the device it just rotates flat. Rory has the fastest hips out of any PGA guy and he is only at like 2mph. They said the average armature is around 1mph. Might be good for my spare tire though.
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  • EntourageLifeEntourageLife EntourageLife  1016WRX Points: 1Members Posts: 1,016
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    Saskwatch wrote:




    I've been seeing a lot of Instagram posts of this training system. Thoughts? What's the difference between this and an Orange Whip or a SKLZ Gold Flex besides the 3 different weighted clubs?!
    I have been at it for 2 weeks now. SS before was 105 consistently, now 107... I have also being using the SOMAX, so I am not sure which is contributing to the increase but I am excited for the future for sure...




    I can't believe anyone bought a somax.image/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' /> The golf part of the site isn't too bad (not saying it is great) but the rest of the site is pure crackpot:)




    I haven't found one golfer who has legitimately used it!



    Anyone?




    I bought a used one locally. I used it for 5 months pretty seriously. It dramatically increased my hip speed and power, however I personally had a hard time translating that into any clubhead increases. My SS going in was 117 and coming out was still 117. I lost a decent amount of fat around the mid section and my ball striking with my irons improved greatly. My scores never really changed however.



    I was also playing hockey and attempting the gym and other various outdoor activities during my use with Somax. This may have not been been the best scenario for usage. I ultimately stopped using the device as it kept aggravating a prior injury in my right foot which made golfing and using the device for prolonged periods very painful.



    I feel the device is a great way to strengthen hip rotation and work on separation.




    You want to sell it? I'll try anything...
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  • JSouthJSouth  591WRX Points: 61Members Posts: 591
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    Has anyone verified their increased swing speed on trackman?
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  • EntourageLifeEntourageLife EntourageLife  1016WRX Points: 1Members Posts: 1,016
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    JSouth wrote:
    Has anyone verified their increased swing speed on trackman?




    FYI: Trackman not the most optimal for measuring swing speed. As long as you have a constant variable then measuring increases or decreases it's ok.
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  • MakAttackMakAttack  375WRX Points: 30Members Posts: 375
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    Like iTeach said it's important not to have the heavy stick too heavy. Superspeed heavy club is %5 heavier than normal driver weight.
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  • HondabuffHondabuff PA 1494WRX Points: 123Members Posts: 1,494
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    I have adjusted my Heavy 410 gram club down to 360 gram. That's 9% heavier then my 915.
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  • thesiltmanthesiltman  125WRX Points: 60Members Posts: 125
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    Thoughts on this working with steel iron shafts? Would be a shorter length, but would the effectiveness be the same?
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  • EntourageLifeEntourageLife EntourageLife  1016WRX Points: 1Members Posts: 1,016
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    thesiltman wrote:
    Thoughts on this working with steel iron shafts? Would be a shorter length, but would the effectiveness be the same?




    Whatever gets you swinging faster and out of your comfort zone I'm all for it!
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  • Albatross85Albatross85 Tiger is the GOAT St. Louis, MO 2931WRX Points: 202Members Posts: 2,931
    Joined:  edited Jan 29, 2017 #41
    For anyone wondering more info on the build. I bought 3 calibration weights 150,200,300.



    After drilling them 1.25" with a 9.1mm bit (Amazon) they each lost exactly 15grams of weight. So I ended up with 135/185/285 weights.



    I ordered 3 graffaloy pro blue 75 gram .350 shafts off RBG for $12 a piece after coupons. I tipped them each 1.5" to help keep them stiff. They have 4" of parallel tip in case anyone is wondering.



    I shafted them with Brampton 20/20 Epoxy (strongest stuff on earth) and Brampton shafting beads. I left some extra epoxy coming out of top where it meets the ferrule in an attempt to make sure the shaft was protected and wouldn't snap against the steel. I'd recommend using collared ferrules if you have them but I just went with what I had on hand.



    My normal driver is 347 grams total weight.



    My speed sticks came out at



    266 77%

    316 91%

    408 117%



    My heavy one I used a grip that was 10grams lighter than the others but it still came out a little heavy. I may have to drill out some weight in the future.



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    Titleist TS3 8.5* ...........................................Tensei Pro White 70TX proto 44.5" D5
    Titleist TS2 13.5*..........................................Tensei Pro White 70TX 42.75" D2
    Ping G410 19* H..........................................GD AD IZ 95X 40.25" D4
    Adams Idea Pro Tour Prototype 23*....Aldila Proto By You 80X D3
    Wilson FG Tour V6 5-Gw .........................PX LZ 6.5 +3/8" D2-D5 off 46* Pw
    Mizuno T7 55.09 .........................................PX LZ 6.5 35.5" D6
    Vokey TVD 60M...........................................DG TI Onyx S400 35.5" D6
    Tour Only Odyssey Jailbird Mini Versa | BWB | plumbers neck | WHP insert | BGT Stability shaft
    Bridgestone Tour B XS


  • PJ72PJ72  1933WRX Points: 98Members Posts: 1,933
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    ago33 wrote:
    j.b.newton wrote:
    ago33 wrote:


    This has helped me, I've went up from 108-112 to 115-122 in a month.



    The gains have mainly been fromnaligning my kinematic sequence vs speed themselves.



    I made my own from $5 shafts on eBay and washers. $20 total vs the 200 they charge




    Would love a how to on this. Thanks!




    I prepped the shaft 2", put 2 inches worth of washers on the shaft and epoxied them in place. I think I used .375" washers. Not quite sure. Then I taped more washers to get it to the right weight. I wanted to make sure that the balance was consistent so that's why I didn't add washers all the way up.



    I used 180, 200 and 220 grams


    Could you wrap lead tape on the shaft?
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  • argee1977argee1977  297WRX Points: 0Members Posts: 297
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    Been looking at these, but as with a lot of the trainer stuff, there's no UK seller, so a long wait time and import tax added to the price makes them a bit too expensive.



    Are there similar products that might be worth a try, i.e. single clubs that are weighted to a similar level?
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  • ago33ago33  2199WRX Points: 145Members Posts: 2,199
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    PJ72 wrote:
    ago33 wrote:
    j.b.newton wrote:
    ago33 wrote:


    This has helped me, I've went up from 108-112 to 115-122 in a month.



    The gains have mainly been fromnaligning my kinematic sequence vs speed themselves.



    I made my own from $5 shafts on eBay and washers. $20 total vs the 200 they charge




    Would love a how to on this. Thanks!




    I prepped the shaft 2", put 2 inches worth of washers on the shaft and epoxied them in place. I think I used .375" washers. Not quite sure. Then I taped more washers to get it to the right weight. I wanted to make sure that the balance was consistent so that's why I didn't add washers all the way up.



    I used 180, 200 and 220 grams


    Could you wrap lead tape on the shaft?




    Sure but it would be less expensive to buy washers
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    Cobra F9 Speedback 9.................................Mitsubishi PO 70 TX
    Tour Edge CBX 13.5.......................................Rombax P95 X
    Tour Edge CBX 18..........................................Rombax P95 X
    Mizuno MP-18 FliHi 4,5................................DGTIX100
    Mizuno MP-25 6-9........................................DGTIX100
    Callaway MD Forged 46, 50, 56, 60........DGTIS400
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  • PJ72PJ72  1933WRX Points: 98Members Posts: 1,933
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    A word of warning on fixing these weights to the shaft tips. I'd be making sure that i placed a collared ferrule in the usual place, just like you would with a club head, to prevent a shear point. Although I'm not sure if not hitting a ball is enough to prevent shear stress being excessive.



    More than likely the head will simply slam into the ground if it snaps off, but is it worth the risk to a family member? Imagine a 200g weight flying at 130mph? Like a bullet.
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  • PJ72PJ72  1933WRX Points: 98Members Posts: 1,933
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    For anyone wondering more info on the build. I bought 3 calibration weights 150,200,300.



    After drilling them 1.25" with a 9.1mm bit (Amazon) they each lost exactly 15grams of weight. So I ended up with 135/185/285 weights.



    I ordered 3 graffaloy pro blue 75 gram .350 shafts off RBG for $12 a piece after coupons. I tipped them each 1.5" to help keep them stiff. They have 4" of parallel tip in case anyone is wondering.



    I shafted them with Brampton 20/20 Epoxy (strongest stuff on earth) and Brampton shafting beads. I left some extra epoxy coming out of top where it meets the ferrule in an attempt to make sure the shaft was protected and wouldn't snap against the steel. I'd recommend using collared ferrules if you have them but I just went with what I had on hand.



    My normal driver is 347 grams total weight.



    My speed sticks came out at



    266 77%

    316 91%

    408 117%



    My heavy one I used a grip that was 10grams lighter than the others but it still came out a little heavy. I may have to drill out some weight in the future.



    b108c9898b79d2e94efc9ca1b8fc7dd1.jpgab60bf61b627362c83b7c20f25876719.jpgc8529dd6e9c1ae2ad4b3a2720ed64990.jpg


    Sorry man, didn't even see your post about using collared ferrules! Great advice and it looks like you've done a very professional job on them. First class.
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  • HondabuffHondabuff PA 1494WRX Points: 123Members Posts: 1,494
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    Make sure you get some pictures with your first time speeds and speeds after a week. You will be amazed with how the Speed starts cranking up.
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  • ago33ago33  2199WRX Points: 145Members Posts: 2,199
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    My ball speed has went up on trackman



    I was getting 160 mph ball speed and now I am at 172-174
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    Cobra F9 Speedback 9.................................Mitsubishi PO 70 TX
    Tour Edge CBX 13.5.......................................Rombax P95 X
    Tour Edge CBX 18..........................................Rombax P95 X
    Mizuno MP-18 FliHi 4,5................................DGTIX100
    Mizuno MP-25 6-9........................................DGTIX100
    Callaway MD Forged 46, 50, 56, 60........DGTIS400
    Scotty Cameron 5.5M...................................Grip Master
  • EntourageLifeEntourageLife EntourageLife  1016WRX Points: 1Members Posts: 1,016
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    ago33 wrote:
    My ball speed has went up on trackman



    I was getting 160 mph ball speed and now I am at 172-174




    **** that's awesome! Good work
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  • WardonationWardonation  1538WRX Points: 172Members Posts: 1,538
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    Why did this topic go off on making these at home to save $90? THe set is only $200.. SS up 4mph after 3 weeks...
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  • EntourageLifeEntourageLife EntourageLife  1016WRX Points: 1Members Posts: 1,016
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    Why did this topic go off on making these at home to save $90? THe set is only $200.. SS up 4mph after 3 weeks...




    Hey whatever makes people happy. Quite frankly, I'd pay into the thousands for your additional 4mph!
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  • dblindendblinden  127WRX Points: 56Members Posts: 127
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    PJ72 wrote:


    More than likely the head will simply slam into the ground if it snaps off, but is it worth the risk to a family member? Imagine a 200g weight flying at 130mph? Like a bullet.




    Actually, that 130 mph is only 191 feet per second. A .308 caliber rifle bullet is launched at approximately 3000 feet per second. Can't quite determine how far a golf ball will travel with that kind of club head speed, but suffice it to say you won't need to carry anything more than a lob wedge and a putter.
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    Why did this topic go off on making these at home to save $90? THe set is only $200.. SS up 4mph after 3 weeks...




    If the SuperSpeed clubs were priced around $130-150 I probably would of bought them. Im pretty happy with the results I got from mine for a little under $100. If they Did a package for $200 that includes the Swing Radar then it would be worth the price.
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    Titleist TS2 9.5* Aldila Rogue Silver 125msi 60 TX
    Titleist 915F 15* Aldila Rogue Silver 110 60X
    Titleist 816 H2 Aldila Rogue Silver 110 85X
    Titleist 716 AP2 Project X 6.0
    Titleist Vokey SM4 50/54/58 Project X 6.0
    Scotty Cameron Futura 6M
    Titleist Staff Stand Bag
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  • Albatross85Albatross85 Tiger is the GOAT St. Louis, MO 2931WRX Points: 202Members Posts: 2,931
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    Why did this topic go off on making these at home to save $90? THe set is only $200.. SS up 4mph after 3 weeks...
    i think I'm all in for $75 which saved me $125. Plus it's winter and I have nothing better to do. Are you above saving 65% off retail? In reality it's a weight and a shaft with no technology. $200 seems crazy to me
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    Titleist TS3 8.5* ...........................................Tensei Pro White 70TX proto 44.5" D5
    Titleist TS2 13.5*..........................................Tensei Pro White 70TX 42.75" D2
    Ping G410 19* H..........................................GD AD IZ 95X 40.25" D4
    Adams Idea Pro Tour Prototype 23*....Aldila Proto By You 80X D3
    Wilson FG Tour V6 5-Gw .........................PX LZ 6.5 +3/8" D2-D5 off 46* Pw
    Mizuno T7 55.09 .........................................PX LZ 6.5 35.5" D6
    Vokey TVD 60M...........................................DG TI Onyx S400 35.5" D6
    Tour Only Odyssey Jailbird Mini Versa | BWB | plumbers neck | WHP insert | BGT Stability shaft
    Bridgestone Tour B XS


  • t-bonet-bone  241WRX Points: 0Members Posts: 241
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    Why did this topic go off on making these at home to save $90? THe set is only $200.. SS up 4mph after 3 weeks...




    They're £235 sterling so,equate to $280 for anybody U.K./Ireland
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  • PJ72PJ72  1933WRX Points: 98Members Posts: 1,933
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    dblinden wrote:
    PJ72 wrote:


    More than likely the head will simply slam into the ground if it snaps off, but is it worth the risk to a family member? Imagine a 200g weight flying at 130mph? Like a bullet.




    Actually, that 130 mph is only 191 feet per second. A .308 caliber rifle bullet is launched at approximately 3000 feet per second. Can't quite determine how far a golf ball will travel with that kind of club head speed, but suffice it to say you won't need to carry anything more than a lob wedge and a putter.


    Ha, slight exaggeration! But the point is, injury or worse could happen at 130mph and a solid metal object.



    Anyway, don't want to derail the thread, some good stuff in here. Carry on.
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  • t-bonet-bone  241WRX Points: 0Members Posts: 241
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    Looking up calibration weights, can't seem to find 150g anywhere on U.K. Sites... eBay is nearly €50 shipping from us for 1 weight
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    What is the recommended training regimen?
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  • HondabuffHondabuff PA 1494WRX Points: 123Members Posts: 1,494
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    If you check out the Super Speed golf videos on you tube you can start with Protocol one. It has alot to do with building your other side of your body. Supplement it with wrist curls and bicept curls. Your wrists and hands will ache after the first few workouts.
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    Titleist TS2 9.5* Aldila Rogue Silver 125msi 60 TX
    Titleist 915F 15* Aldila Rogue Silver 110 60X
    Titleist 816 H2 Aldila Rogue Silver 110 85X
    Titleist 716 AP2 Project X 6.0
    Titleist Vokey SM4 50/54/58 Project X 6.0
    Scotty Cameron Futura 6M
    Titleist Staff Stand Bag
    Titleist AVX
    Bushnell Tour Z6
  • jimb6golfjimb6golf  1670WRX Points: 170Members Posts: 1,670
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    There's all kinds of training devices out there to increase swing speed. I've got the Speed Whoosh which is a lighter club that helps increase speed and identify the release point. I've also got a Matzie swing trainer, but don't use that for speed training. The heavier clubs are for engraining your swing and positions but if you swing them too hard you will end up hurting yourself (I can attest as it aided me damaging my shoulder a few years ago). Each device has its benefits but you need to use them correctly to achieve results and avoid hurting yourself. Like anything else out there, the training aids are great if they are used correctly.
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  • WesquireWesquire  807WRX Points: 130Members Posts: 807
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    I was only interested in one ~10% less weight than my driver. Ended up just buying a used Cleveland XL270 w/ a 65g shaft for $35, which puts it at 295g total weight. I can adjust from there. Anyone know the total weight of a Ping G driver with a 75g shaft and tour velvet grip? I'm guessing around 335.
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    Driver - Ping G400 LST 8.5° (Mitsubishi CK Pro Orange 70 TX Tipped 1")
    3 Wood - Ping G 14.5° (PX HZRDUS Black 75g 6.5 Tipped 1.5")
    2 Crossover - Ping G410 17° (PX HZRDUS Black 85g 6.5)
    4-W - Ping i200 (PX 6.5)
    Wedges - Ping Glide 2.0 Stealth 50°/55°/60° (PX 6.5)
    Putter - Directed Force
    Ball - Snell MTB-X
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