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  • GolfChannelGolfChannel Advanced Members Posts: 1,581 ✭✭
    Dinosaur wrote:

    ButchGann wrote:


    It actually has made my swing longer (in a good way), although I can see where trying to swing out of your shoes on every swing is not a good thing. I made my own version of these and have been doing the program for 2 weeks (every other day). Have definitely started swinging the club faster (per my brother in law's simulator), One of the biggest things it has done for me so far is to help me with my previous deceleration problem and also a more complete follow-through. I am going to keep working the program until I can't see any benefit.




    are those weights near SSG specs? Look like a lot of washers. I did something similar and a lot fewer washers needed.







    I'm not sure how you guys are creating the attachment to use the washers? Are you just using a standard new driver sleeve and ****? Please elaborate.
    [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Driver: He who shall not be named...[/font]
    [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]3 Wood: [/font][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Callaway Rogue w/Project X Blue Evenflow 75[/font]
    [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]5 Wood: [/font][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Callaway Rogue w/Project X Blue Evenflow 75[/font]
    [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Hybrid: [/font][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Titleist 816H1 21 Degree w/Accra 182H M3[/font]
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    [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Wedges: [/font][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Callaway MD3 50, 54, and Honma TW737 Forged 62[/font]
    [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Putter: [/font][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Odyssey White Hot XG No. 7 [/font]
    [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Ball: Callaway ChromeSoft 2018 (Yellow)[/font]
  • DinosaurDinosaur Advanced Members Posts: 1,968 ✭✭
    edited March 1

    Dinosaur wrote:

    ButchGann wrote:


    It actually has made my swing longer (in a good way), although I can see where trying to swing out of your shoes on every swing is not a good thing. I made my own version of these and have been doing the program for 2 weeks (every other day). Have definitely started swinging the club faster (per my brother in law's simulator), One of the biggest things it has done for me so far is to help me with my previous deceleration problem and also a more complete follow-through. I am going to keep working the program until I can't see any benefit.




    are those weights near SSG specs? Look like a lot of washers. I did something similar and a lot fewer washers needed.







    I'm not sure how you guys are creating the attachment to use the washers? Are you just using a standard new driver sleeve and ****? Please elaborate.




    I had an old shaft with the shaft tip still attached off an XCG7 driver from Tour Edge. Then I got a cap **** same size (6mm I believe). The beauty is, you can add or subtract weights quickly. I am sure any adjustable hosel tip would work. On the Tour Edge, the adapter is "stepped" requiring two different sized washers. I snug them down with a piece of rubber from range rubber tee and zip tie. Only caution I recommend is to frequently check the cap **** for tightness or use a light strength Loctite. The photo you copied is just after removing the large washers but before snugging down. (no matter though, as the smaller washers are on the lower step of the adapter).



    In my bottom photo (light club), I simply jammed a broken wooden tee into the end of the shaft. That worked...until it didn't....Created a missile launcher.
    "Non rinunciare mai quello
    che desideri...."
    Go with what you know!
  • DinosaurDinosaur Advanced Members Posts: 1,968 ✭✭
    Dinosaur wrote:


    Dinosaur wrote:

    ButchGann wrote:


    It actually has made my swing longer (in a good way), although I can see where trying to swing out of your shoes on every swing is not a good thing. I made my own version of these and have been doing the program for 2 weeks (every other day). Have definitely started swinging the club faster (per my brother in law's simulator), One of the biggest things it has done for me so far is to help me with my previous deceleration problem and also a more complete follow-through. I am going to keep working the program until I can't see any benefit.




    are those weights near SSG specs? Look like a lot of washers. I did something similar and a lot fewer washers needed.







    I'm not sure how you guys are creating the attachment to use the washers? Are you just using a standard new driver sleeve and ****? Please elaborate.




    I had an old shaft with the shaft tip still attached off an XCG7 driver from Tour Edge. Then I got a cap **** same size (6mm I believe). The beauty is, you can add or subtract weights quickly. I am sure any adjustable hosel tip would work. On the Tour Edge, the adapter is "stepped" requiring two different sized washers. I snug them down with a piece of rubber from range rubber tee and zip tie. Only caution I recommend is to frequently check the cap **** for tightness or use a light strength Loctite. The photo you copied is just after removing the large washers but before snugging down. (no matter though, as the smaller washers are on the lower step of the adapter).



    In my bottom photo (light club), I simply jammed a broken wooden tee into the end of the shaft. That worked...until it didn't....Created a missile launcher.




    Here is another "tweaked" configuration
    "Non rinunciare mai quello
    che desideri...."
    Go with what you know!
  • getgolfedgetgolfed Members Posts: 75


    Swinging the Driver as hard as you can definitely is a good way to increase speed as well. While it's not technically overspeed training, it's another great method to use. Great gains btw stk.




    I think that'll be my plan going forward. Just having an impact target/hitting a ball may be enough to prevent injury for me. I think if I get a few range sessions in each week and spend some of that time swinging my driver as hard as possible, I will get at least some of the speed gain. Just a matter of retaining a compact swing for me.
  • 300_Straight300_Straight Advanced Members Posts: 929
    Focusing on using the ground to push up really helps. Doing the deep squat like Rory and Tiger helps power a ton. Even overemphasizing the squat at times, should be beneficial in you getting the correct 'feel' in the downswing.
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  • GolfChannelGolfChannel Advanced Members Posts: 1,581 ✭✭
    Focusing on using the ground to push up really helps. Doing the deep squat like Rory and Tiger helps power a ton. Even overemphasizing the squat at times, should be beneficial in you getting the correct 'feel' in the downswing.




    I can’t figure out the squat, but will keep practicing it, because when I use my legs correctly it’s always a drive 25 yards further than average.
    [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Driver: He who shall not be named...[/font]
    [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]3 Wood: [/font][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Callaway Rogue w/Project X Blue Evenflow 75[/font]
    [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]5 Wood: [/font][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Callaway Rogue w/Project X Blue Evenflow 75[/font]
    [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Hybrid: [/font][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Titleist 816H1 21 Degree w/Accra 182H M3[/font]
    [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Irons: [/font][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Ping iBlade Nippon AWT 2.0 Stiff[/font]
    [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Wedges: [/font][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Callaway MD3 50, 54, and Honma TW737 Forged 62[/font]
    [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Putter: [/font][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Odyssey White Hot XG No. 7 [/font]
    [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Ball: Callaway ChromeSoft 2018 (Yellow)[/font]
  • stk123stk123 Advanced Members Posts: 439 ✭✭
    edited March 1
    getgolfed wrote:



    Swinging the Driver as hard as you can definitely is a good way to increase speed as well. While it's not technically overspeed training, it's another great method to use. Great gains btw stk.




    I think that'll be my plan going forward. Just having an impact target/hitting a ball may be enough to prevent injury for me. I think if I get a few range sessions in each week and spend some of that time swinging my driver as hard as possible, I will get at least some of the speed gain. Just a matter of retaining a compact swing for me.




    That is all you really need. I went from 99mph (trackman) to ~108mph (guessing, as I was 112mph on trackman a couple months later) by simply hitting driver as hard as I can on the range for a couple of weeks. I got my SSR and day 1 my first couple of swings registered around 102mph. Quickly got to 104mph, and by the end of my range session I hit a couple at 107-108mph. Day 2 (a couple days later) I was at 105-108 consistently with my radar and got a couple over 110mph. 5 days later (day 3 on range) I was 108-111. By day 4 I was 111-114.



    Obviously, I was doing a bunch of stuff in between:



    fitness, working out, stretching

    swing changes. working on bigger shoulder turn, etc.

    more fitness.



    But had I not gone to the range those 4 days, I still would have been swinging it at 100mph. I don't have time to go to the range and pound driver, so I do some other stuff at home (whatever I can), but pounding driver is most effective way.



    I was at range two days ago, got loose after a couple dozen or so shots and all of a sudden I clocked 5-10 balls at 120 - 121 mph. Until I cracked the face of my driver. I was launching those range balls into the hill at the back of the range 290y carry.



    Hardly ever do SSG anymore. Only do it once every couple of weeks to mix it up. I will sometimes do 5-10 reps with green club randomly, but definitely do not do the structured program as it is tedious and unnecessary.
  • stk123stk123 Advanced Members Posts: 439 ✭✭

    Focusing on using the ground to push up really helps. Doing the deep squat like Rory and Tiger helps power a ton. Even overemphasizing the squat at times, should be beneficial in you getting the correct 'feel' in the downswing.




    I can’t figure out the squat, but will keep practicing it, because when I use my legs correctly it’s always a drive 25 yards further than average.




    What I did recently was change my knee bend at address. I used to have very little flex in my knees, and just recently changed it so there is a lot more bend in them. Feels more like an athletic position, like you were guarding someone in basketball. Basically I am already squatting so I don't need to squat on downswing anymore, as it is built in. Feel like this has helped me so much, that I applied it to putting and chipping. It feels very natural to me and have been playing great. But note that the first couple times out I was hitting everything fat, because I was not used to being closer to the ground. Quickly figured it out though.
  • PorscheFanPorscheFan Advanced Members Posts: 1,148 ✭✭
    I’ve been meaning to make a simpler and more protective SSR protective shield, so I went all Martha Stewart this morning.



    1/16 Lexan. Spare packing foam. Hot glue gun.



    Bent the Lexan with a heat gun and $5 angle iron in a vice. Traced out the SSR in the foam for a friction fit. Cut foam on the bandsaw and hot glued it in place.



    Has the added benefit of keeping the unit more upright than the stand sometimes allows.



    Radar goes through the Shield like it wasn’t there.







  • DinosaurDinosaur Advanced Members Posts: 1,968 ✭✭
    PorscheFan wrote:


    I've been meaning to make a simpler and more protective SSR protective shield, so I went all Martha Stewart this morning.



    1/16 Lexan. Spare packing foam. Hot glue gun.



    Bent the Lexan with a heat gun and $5 angle iron in a vice. Traced out the SSR in the foam for a friction fit. Cut foam on the bandsaw and hot glued it in place.



    Has the added benefit of keeping the unit more upright than the stand sometimes allows.



    Radar goes through the Shield like it wasn't there.











    ha, wished I had seen this before I hit my unit (again).
    "Non rinunciare mai quello
    che desideri...."
    Go with what you know!
  • PorscheFanPorscheFan Advanced Members Posts: 1,148 ✭✭
    Dinosaur wrote:

    PorscheFan wrote:


    I've been meaning to make a simpler and more protective SSR protective shield, so I went all Martha Stewart this morning.



    1/16 Lexan. Spare packing foam. Hot glue gun.



    Bent the Lexan with a heat gun and $5 angle iron in a vice. Traced out the SSR in the foam for a friction fit. Cut foam on the bandsaw and hot glued it in place.



    Has the added benefit of keeping the unit more upright than the stand sometimes allows.



    Radar goes through the Shield like it wasn't there.











    ha, wished I had seen this before I hit my unit (again).




    I know the feeling. I have a graveyard of old units. I’ve phoned the company and asked if I can just buy the LCDs (no response), but in the meantime I’m protecting my current one with this.



    It’s also helpful since my wife and son have started SSG, so it has lots more opportunities to get spanked
  • DinosaurDinosaur Advanced Members Posts: 1,968 ✭✭
    PorscheFan wrote:

    Dinosaur wrote:

    PorscheFan wrote:


    I've been meaning to make a simpler and more protective SSR protective shield, so I went all Martha Stewart this morning.



    1/16 Lexan. Spare packing foam. Hot glue gun.



    Bent the Lexan with a heat gun and $5 angle iron in a vice. Traced out the SSR in the foam for a friction fit. Cut foam on the bandsaw and hot glued it in place.



    Has the added benefit of keeping the unit more upright than the stand sometimes allows.



    Radar goes through the Shield like it wasn't there.











    ha, wished I had seen this before I hit my unit (again).




    I know the feeling. I have a graveyard of old units. I’ve phoned the company and asked if I can just buy the LCDs (no response), but in the meantime I’m protecting my current one with this.



    It’s also helpful since my wife and son have started SSG, so it has lots more opportunities to get spanked




    the first time I had a mishap, they replaced the LCD at no cost. The second time, I had some case damage and screen did not function properly. I sent email asking if they had any refurbs on a Red unit with tempo trainer. Awaiting response. If not, I may try Voice Caddie or SST-T on ebay.
    "Non rinunciare mai quello
    che desideri...."
    Go with what you know!
  • DinosaurDinosaur Advanced Members Posts: 1,968 ✭✭


    Focusing on using the ground to push up really helps. Doing the deep squat like Rory and Tiger helps power a ton. Even overemphasizing the squat at times, should be beneficial in you getting the correct 'feel' in the downswing.




    In retrospect, I feel as if I am doing that already without consciously thinking about it. I would not call it a vertical squat though, more like a push off pivot. Now being aware of it, I can see the move in a mirror. I can also envision some may misinterpret the move by using a sort of down hill dipping motion like Shawn Clement where it looks like more head bobbing. When I am in tempo, the strikes are solid. I do have to caution about hitting fat. I try to focus on a spot a few inches in front of the ball.
    "Non rinunciare mai quello
    che desideri...."
    Go with what you know!
  • PorscheFanPorscheFan Advanced Members Posts: 1,148 ✭✭
    Dinosaur wrote:


    the first time I had a mishap, they replaced the LCD at no cost. The second time, I had some case damage and screen did not function properly. I sent email asking if they had any refurbs on a Red unit with tempo trainer. Awaiting response. If not, I may try Voice Caddie or SST-T on ebay.




    I have the Voice Caddie SC200 and love it for the range, but it doesn’t read no ball swings effectively. The SSR is the best cheap solution there... It just needs to be protected.



    I should take your route and email them. I called twice, and it was like calling somebody’s house phone... because I believe I was actually calling somebody’s house phone.
  • DinosaurDinosaur Advanced Members Posts: 1,968 ✭✭
    edited March 2
    PorscheFan wrote:

    Dinosaur wrote:


    the first time I had a mishap, they replaced the LCD at no cost. The second time, I had some case damage and screen did not function properly. I sent email asking if they had any refurbs on a Red unit with tempo trainer. Awaiting response. If not, I may try Voice Caddie or SST-T on ebay.




    I have the Voice Caddie SC200 and love it for the range, but it doesn’t read no ball swings effectively. The SSR is the best cheap solution there... It just needs to be protected.



    I should take your route and email them. I called twice, and it was like calling somebody’s house phone... because I believe I was actually calling somebody’s house phone.




    Al Dilz (President of Sports Sensors) was pretty good about answering emails within 48 hours. I do believe he is working out of his house though, but I do not really know that. here is the address: [email protected]
    "Non rinunciare mai quello
    che desideri...."
    Go with what you know!
  • KC4441KC4441 ClubWRX Charter Members Posts: 725 ClubWRX
    I’ve been doing the beginning protocol for about 3 weeks now without a SS radar. I’ll be hitting on a flightscope later next week that I’ve hit on before. I’ll be interested to see the progress. From reading this and other forums about the system, I’m guessing I may need a system to keep track a little better.
    M5

    M5 3 wood

    P790 3 iron

    P760 4-9

    TM MG 48, 50, 54, Hi Toe 58

    MySpider
    TMAG Tour Preferred Locker
  • DinosaurDinosaur Advanced Members Posts: 1,968 ✭✭
    KC4441 wrote:


    I’ve been doing the beginning protocol for about 3 weeks now without a SS radar. I’ll be hitting on a flightscope later next week that I’ve hit on before. I’ll be interested to see the progress. From reading this and other forums about the system, I’m guessing I may need a system to keep track a little better.




    I probably will buy the real sticks and then revisit the protocols. I am not that structured in following the regimin but probably would be should I purchase the system. For now I am satisfied with swinging my home made version aggressively a few times. I could change the weights between sets easily if desired as they are held in place by a hosel adapter and cap ****. The SSR seems to be the most economical way to measure progress, but there are even cheaper ones available. I think Sklz has one for around $35. Accuracy may be a concern.
    "Non rinunciare mai quello
    che desideri...."
    Go with what you know!
  • KC4441KC4441 ClubWRX Charter Members Posts: 725 ClubWRX
    Dinosaur wrote:

    KC4441 wrote:


    I’ve been doing the beginning protocol for about 3 weeks now without a SS radar. I’ll be hitting on a flightscope later next week that I’ve hit on before. I’ll be interested to see the progress. From reading this and other forums about the system, I’m guessing I may need a system to keep track a little better.




    I probably will buy the real sticks and then revisit the protocols. I am not that structured in following the regimin but probably would be should I purchase the system. For now I am satisfied with swinging my home made version aggressively a few times. I could change the weights between sets easily if desired as they are held in place by a hosel adapter and cap ****. The SSR seems to be the most economical way to measure progress, but there are even cheaper ones available. I think Sklz has one for around $35. Accuracy may be a concern.




    Yea I’m sticking to the protocols, even adding an extra day here and there. This is in addition to my shoulder rehab for a slight tear in my rotator cuff, so I’m hoping the combination will get my SS back up close to where I used to be
    M5

    M5 3 wood

    P790 3 iron

    P760 4-9

    TM MG 48, 50, 54, Hi Toe 58

    MySpider
    TMAG Tour Preferred Locker
  • Pooh_BearPooh_Bear Advanced Members Posts: 99
    edited March 2
    With all due respect how are you guys hitting the radar with the sticks or your driver? Aren't we supposed to swing six to ten inches away from the thing? I mean no offense but hitting the radar would be the equivalent of heeling the ball so bad it takes out your ****. Is this some right of passage I should be aware of?
  • stk123stk123 Advanced Members Posts: 439 ✭✭
    edited March 2
    Pooh_Bear wrote:


    With all due respect how are you guys hitting the radar with the sticks or your driver? Aren't we supposed to swing six to ten inches away from the thing? I mean no offense but hitting the radar would be the equivalent of heeling the ball so bad it takes out your ****. Is this some right of passage I should be aware of?




    Was wondering this exact same thing. I don't think I ever came withing 5 inches of the radar.
  • Pooh_BearPooh_Bear Advanced Members Posts: 99
    stk123 wrote:

    Pooh_Bear wrote:


    With all due respect how are you guys hitting the radar with the sticks or your driver? Aren't we supposed to swing six to ten inches away from the thing? I mean no offense but hitting the radar would be the equivalent of heeling the ball so bad it takes out your ****. Is this some right of passage I should be aware of?




    Was wondering this exact same thing. I don't think I ever came withing 5 inches of the radar.




    I can only hope/imagine it's from the step/lefty/knee swings. I don't do radar for the sticks at all, only driver for me. I get no speed with the sticks on the radar. It's comical.
  • PorscheFanPorscheFan Advanced Members Posts: 1,148 ✭✭
    Pooh_Bear wrote:


    With all due respect how are you guys hitting the radar with the sticks or your driver? Aren't we supposed to swing six to ten inches away from the thing? I mean no offense but hitting the radar would be the equivalent of heeling the ball so bad it takes out your ****. Is this some right of passage I should be aware of?




    It’s a right of passage you should be aware of. You’re totally missing out.
  • DinosaurDinosaur Advanced Members Posts: 1,968 ✭✭
    edited March 3
    PorscheFan wrote:

    Pooh_Bear wrote:


    With all due respect how are you guys hitting the radar with the sticks or your driver? Aren't we supposed to swing six to ten inches away from the thing? I mean no offense but hitting the radar would be the equivalent of heeling the ball so bad it takes out your ****. Is this some right of passage I should be aware of?




    It’s a right of passage you should be aware of. You’re totally missing out.




    its the grinch's 3rd law of inevitability...."things that can go wrong, usually do"
    Post edited by Unknown User on
    "Non rinunciare mai quello
    che desideri...."
    Go with what you know!
  • JokesJokes Advanced Members Posts: 99 ✭✭
    Today was my first day using Superspeed since about July of last year. I sold my previous set because my right shoulder started to take a beating when doing the left handed swings (right handed golfer). This time I purchased the sticks and the radar as I deemed it would be more helpful then just the sticks on their own. On Trackman last year my slowest swing was about 100mph and fastest was slightly over 110 with an average of 104-107 in the summer. Here is my initial numbers and I will update them in a few weeks while going through the system. These are my first swings in about 3-4 months so I suspect the numbers to grow fairly quickly as I get back in the groove of things.
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    Scotty Cameron Newport 2
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  • tyorke1tyorke1 Advanced Members Posts: 2,132 ✭✭
    I made a set but Ididnt have a scale and just swing weighted them,they turned out way to heavy, hopefully why I am seeing zero gains , also the shafts are short by 3 inch's will this make a difference I can lengthen them. new weights are 267-292 342 , any thoughts .
    m3 9.5 v2 proforce ,
    callaway rogue sub zero 10.5 rogue 60x ,
    m2 3 wd, 15 degree rogue 125 msi 60 tour x ,
    816 h1 hybrid 19 degree ,speeder tour spec
    taylor p790 17 degree
    callaway apex pro 6.5 pro x
    vokey 52--56--60
    taylormade spider tour dj versionr
    epic green staff bag or titleist cart bag
  • DinosaurDinosaur Advanced Members Posts: 1,968 ✭✭
    tyorke1 wrote:


    I made a set but Ididnt have a scale and just swing weighted them,they turned out way to heavy, hopefully why I am seeing zero gains , also the shafts are short by 3 inch's will this make a difference I can lengthen them. new weights are 267-292 342 , any thoughts .




    As mentioned, I have done the same thing approximating the suggested weights. I believe the idea is to train those "twitchy" muscles to swing faster and anything you do along those lines would be beneficial, at least that has been my experience. I would also suggest purchasing the actual product would be even better given they will cause you to use progressively heavier clubs in an exponential manner and then revert back to the lightest as the final swing.



    Another thing I am experimenting with is to combine my "Hacker Whacker" with speed training. This results in giving the club more momentum as the lightweight sliding birdie ball contacts the tip of the speed stick giving feedback as to proper tempo/extension point. I cannot evaluate this until I get a new SSR to replace a broken one. The caveat being that it *may* or may not defeat the purpose. I just do not know (yet).
    "Non rinunciare mai quello
    che desideri...."
    Go with what you know!
  • clevitedclevited Don't think you are, know you are. Advanced Members Posts: 992 ✭✭
    Jokes wrote:


    Today was my first day using Superspeed since about July of last year. I sold my previous set because my right shoulder started to take a beating when doing the left handed swings (right handed golfer). This time I purchased the sticks and the radar as I deemed it would be more helpful then just the sticks on their own. On Trackman last year my slowest swing was about 100mph and fastest was slightly over 110 with an average of 104-107 in the summer. Here is my initial numbers and I will update them in a few weeks while going through the system. These are my first swings in about 3-4 months so I suspect the numbers to grow fairly quickly as I get back in the groove of things.




    Cool. Thanks for posting that. Your data is helpful to me for correlating your red stick speed to your actual driver speed. Can I ask if your driver is standard length (45.5 inches)?
  • tyorke1tyorke1 Advanced Members Posts: 2,132 ✭✭
    are guys getting same results from home made sticks, I am sure you are just checking .
    m3 9.5 v2 proforce ,
    callaway rogue sub zero 10.5 rogue 60x ,
    m2 3 wd, 15 degree rogue 125 msi 60 tour x ,
    816 h1 hybrid 19 degree ,speeder tour spec
    taylor p790 17 degree
    callaway apex pro 6.5 pro x
    vokey 52--56--60
    taylormade spider tour dj versionr
    epic green staff bag or titleist cart bag
  • OakLawnGolfProOakLawnGolfPro Advanced Members Posts: 147
    I use super speed with my students. It really helps with students who aren’t reaching the potential speed they already have. As far as gaining speed, in feel like if you don’t have good movement patterns already, I don’t see students getting faster and I fact they tend to feel pain doing the sticks. So I think they can be good, but not for all.
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  • Z1ggy16Z1ggy16 Advanced Members Posts: 7,020 ✭✭
    SSG session #1 in the books for 2019. Weather still a bit cold here so not sure if I'll get the standard 3 days per week in but I have my SSR heading my way and I'll be tracking progress like others.



    Hoping to see 120 club by the end of summer. If Phil can, then I can.
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    LTD Kai'li 70X
    818H2 Tour Blue 85X
    Apex Pro Smoke incoming!!
    Stealth 2.0 50/10SS
    Stealth 2.0 54/12SS
    Stealth 2.0 58/10SS
    TP Black Copper Juno
    TP5X
    Sun Mountain 4.5 Bag
  • mission_scratchmission_scratch Lefty Boomers Posts: 1,072 ✭✭
    Can't believe I missed this thread for so long...



    My wife got me a set and the monitor for Christmas in 2017. Last year I inconsistently worked out with them, and still noticed an improvement in my SS over time...



    My whole goal was to increase my overall SS so that I could swing at 90% and be close to where my old 100% SS was at. I felt my ego get the best on me on almost every tee shot, but if I could increase my SS and swing at 90% and not lose distance, I could be a better driver of the golf ball..





    Actually Started using them again on Saturday. And worked out again with them last night.



    Keeping a journal of my progress this year. Only issue is I will also be doing a workout routine to help with speed as well, so I wont have a true testament of how much its the SSG or the working out.



    Last nights numbers -

    Best Speeds-

    Light - 131

    Medium - 126

    Heavy - 120

    (I feel like I should be able to hit higher speeds with the light club since my medium is 126. I would of expected a bigger gap)



    Will try to post numbers often in here to give some feedback on the clubs.
  • big yellowbig yellow Members Posts: 58 ✭✭
    tyorke1 wrote:


    are guys getting same results from home made sticks, I am sure you are just checking .




    I have started with home made system with blue SSR. I am frustrated with numbers but I will stick with it for few more weeks and see how it goes.
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  • JokesJokes Advanced Members Posts: 99 ✭✭
    clevited wrote:

    Jokes wrote:


    Today was my first day using Superspeed since about July of last year. I sold my previous set because my right shoulder started to take a beating when doing the left handed swings (right handed golfer). This time I purchased the sticks and the radar as I deemed it would be more helpful then just the sticks on their own. On Trackman last year my slowest swing was about 100mph and fastest was slightly over 110 with an average of 104-107 in the summer. Here is my initial numbers and I will update them in a few weeks while going through the system. These are my first swings in about 3-4 months so I suspect the numbers to grow fairly quickly as I get back in the groove of things.




    Cool. Thanks for posting that. Your data is helpful to me for correlating your red stick speed to your actual driver speed. Can I ask if your driver is standard length (45.5 inches)?


    Mine is 45" currently but will probably be going 44.5" this year
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  • clevitedclevited Don't think you are, know you are. Advanced Members Posts: 992 ✭✭
    edited March 12
    Jokes wrote:

    clevited wrote:

    Jokes wrote:


    Today was my first day using Superspeed since about July of last year. I sold my previous set because my right shoulder started to take a beating when doing the left handed swings (right handed golfer). This time I purchased the sticks and the radar as I deemed it would be more helpful then just the sticks on their own. On Trackman last year my slowest swing was about 100mph and fastest was slightly over 110 with an average of 104-107 in the summer. Here is my initial numbers and I will update them in a few weeks while going through the system. These are my first swings in about 3-4 months so I suspect the numbers to grow fairly quickly as I get back in the groove of things.




    Cool. Thanks for posting that. Your data is helpful to me for correlating your red stick speed to your actual driver speed. Can I ask if your driver is standard length (45.5 inches)?


    Mine is 45" currently but will probably be going 44.5" this year




    Thanks. Your swing speed with your drive seems to match very well with your red stick speed. I am up to about 10 people now that have confirmed my theory. Its good to know SSR can measure those sticks so accurately and consistently and that the heavy one correlates really well with a standard driver. I am happy to have a good method for measuring real progress without having to jump on a trackman all the time.



    Once you get your driver speed measured again on a trackman or something, it should be within +-3 mph of your red stick swing speed. Only way it won't be is if you can't commit to the same speed swing with a ball in front of you as you can without.
  • mission_scratchmission_scratch Lefty Boomers Posts: 1,072 ✭✭
    Clevited -



    I will be going to Club Champion a week from Monday and I will report back my SS on the trackman compared to my SS with the Red/Heavy SSG club and see how they compare.
  • clevitedclevited Don't think you are, know you are. Advanced Members Posts: 992 ✭✭


    Clevited -



    I will be going to Club Champion a week from Monday and I will report back my SS on the trackman compared to my SS with the Red/Heavy SSG club and see how they compare.




    Awesome, I appreciate that. Looking forward to seeing your numbers.
  • stk123stk123 Advanced Members Posts: 439 ✭✭


    Can't believe I missed this thread for so long...



    My wife got me a set and the monitor for Christmas in 2017. Last year I inconsistently worked out with them, and still noticed an improvement in my SS over time...



    My whole goal was to increase my overall SS so that I could swing at 90% and be close to where my old 100% SS was at. I felt my ego get the best on me on almost every tee shot, but if I could increase my SS and swing at 90% and not lose distance, I could be a better driver of the golf ball..





    Actually Started using them again on Saturday. And worked out again with them last night.



    Keeping a journal of my progress this year. Only issue is I will also be doing a workout routine to help with speed as well, so I wont have a true testament of how much its the SSG or the working out.



    Last nights numbers -

    Best Speeds-

    Light - 131

    Medium - 126

    Heavy - 120

    (I feel like I should be able to hit higher speeds with the light club since my medium is 126. I would of expected a bigger gap)



    Will try to post numbers often in here to give some feedback on the clubs.




    If your swing speed at 90% was 90mph and 100% at 100mph. Then after doing the SSG program, if you get up to 111mph at 100% and 100mph at 90%, you will still want to swing 100% to get 111mph instead of 100mph.



    Do the program even longer, and get up to 120mph at 100%, you will still want to swing 100% to get 120mph and not 110.



    Rinse and repeat...
  • clevitedclevited Don't think you are, know you are. Advanced Members Posts: 992 ✭✭
    edited March 12


    Can't believe I missed this thread for so long...



    My wife got me a set and the monitor for Christmas in 2017. Last year I inconsistently worked out with them, and still noticed an improvement in my SS over time...



    My whole goal was to increase my overall SS so that I could swing at 90% and be close to where my old 100% SS was at. I felt my ego get the best on me on almost every tee shot, but if I could increase my SS and swing at 90% and not lose distance, I could be a better driver of the golf ball..





    Actually Started using them again on Saturday. And worked out again with them last night.



    Keeping a journal of my progress this year. Only issue is I will also be doing a workout routine to help with speed as well, so I wont have a true testament of how much its the SSG or the working out.



    Last nights numbers -

    Best Speeds-

    Light - 131

    Medium - 126

    Heavy - 120

    (I feel like I should be able to hit higher speeds with the light club since my medium is 126. I would of expected a bigger gap)



    Will try to post numbers often in here to give some feedback on the clubs.




    You do have a weird issue with the green stick. Several people I have seen their numbers for each stick, pretty consistent increases for each stick. Your green stick speed does not fit. From what I have observed for these people....



    Blue is 105.38% of Red

    Green is 114.45% of Red



    So you should be at 126 mph blue (which you are) and 137 mph green or there about. Maybe it just feels too light and you dump speed before radar?
  • bluedotbluedot Advanced Members Posts: 3,333 ✭✭


    I use super speed with my students. It really helps with students who aren’t reaching the potential speed they already have. As far as gaining speed, in feel like if you don’t have good movement patterns already, I don’t see students getting faster and I fact they tend to feel pain doing the sticks. So I think they can be good, but not for all.




    Since you're using SSG with students, I have a question. Do you have them swing THEIR swing as fast as they can, or do you have them simply swing as fast as they can, without regard to technique?



    To me, this is REALLY important distinction, and I've done SSG all along using MY swing with the best technique that I could manage while still swing as fast as I could, knowing that this is NOT what the instructions call for. I don't have data to prove it, but TO ME the issue isn't how fast I can swing something, it's how fast I can make MY swing and still make the ball go (sorta kinda) where I want it to go.



    So my gains have been slower, I think, than a lot of what has been reported on this thread, now approaching triple digits in pages. But it's sort of like what i used to tell my son when he was playing baseball as an infielder; it doesn't matter how fast the ball got to first if the first baseman couldn't catch it. I recognize the tension in this when you contrast what I'm saying with Jack Grout telling a young Nicklaus to hit it far and they'd figure out straight later, or Bobby Jones reportedly telling a woman pro who asked for advice, "Knock the **** out of it; it'll come down somewhere!" Sad to say, I'm not only not an LPGA pro, I REALLY not a young Jack Nicklaus. Or Nicklaus at any other age...
  • DinosaurDinosaur Advanced Members Posts: 1,968 ✭✭
    bluedot wrote:



    I use super speed with my students. It really helps with students who aren’t reaching the potential speed they already have. As far as gaining speed, in feel like if you don’t have good movement patterns already, I don’t see students getting faster and I fact they tend to feel pain doing the sticks. So I think they can be good, but not for all.




    Since you're using SSG with students, I have a question. Do you have them swing THEIR swing as fast as they can, or do you have them simply swing as fast as they can, without regard to technique?



    To me, this is REALLY important distinction, and I've done SSG all along using MY swing with the best technique that I could manage while still swing as fast as I could, knowing that this is NOT what the instructions call for. I don't have data to prove it, but TO ME the issue isn't how fast I can swing something, it's how fast I can make MY swing and still make the ball go (sorta kinda) where I want it to go.



    So my gains have been slower, I think, than a lot of what has been reported on this thread, now approaching triple digits in pages. But it's sort of like what i used to tell my son when he was playing baseball as an infielder; it doesn't matter how fast the ball got to first if the first baseman couldn't catch it. I recognize the tension in this when you contrast what I'm saying with Jack Grout telling a young Nicklaus to hit it far and they'd figure out straight later, or Bobby Jones reportedly telling a woman pro who asked for advice, "Knock the **** out of it; it'll come down somewhere!" Sad to say, I'm not only not an LPGA pro, I REALLY not a young Jack Nicklaus. Or Nicklaus at any other age...




    I *May* have some input as soon as my replacement SSR arrives. My intent is to combine my "hacker whacker" with speed stick which will give me audible feedback on impact and point of full extension. My expectation is that the speeds will be somewhat slower at first to achieve best tempo but hopefully I will be able to build them back up again.
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    che desideri...."
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  • clevitedclevited Don't think you are, know you are. Advanced Members Posts: 992 ✭✭
    bluedot wrote:



    I use super speed with my students. It really helps with students who aren’t reaching the potential speed they already have. As far as gaining speed, in feel like if you don’t have good movement patterns already, I don’t see students getting faster and I fact they tend to feel pain doing the sticks. So I think they can be good, but not for all.




    Since you're using SSG with students, I have a question. Do you have them swing THEIR swing as fast as they can, or do you have them simply swing as fast as they can, without regard to technique?



    To me, this is REALLY important distinction, and I've done SSG all along using MY swing with the best technique that I could manage while still swing as fast as I could, knowing that this is NOT what the instructions call for. I don't have data to prove it, but TO ME the issue isn't how fast I can swing something, it's how fast I can make MY swing and still make the ball go (sorta kinda) where I want it to go.



    So my gains have been slower, I think, than a lot of what has been reported on this thread, now approaching triple digits in pages. But it's sort of like what i used to tell my son when he was playing baseball as an infielder; it doesn't matter how fast the ball got to first if the first baseman couldn't catch it. I recognize the tension in this when you contrast what I'm saying with Jack Grout telling a young Nicklaus to hit it far and they'd figure out straight later, or Bobby Jones reportedly telling a woman pro who asked for advice, "Knock the **** out of it; it'll come down somewhere!" Sad to say, I'm not only not an LPGA pro, I REALLY not a young Jack Nicklaus. Or Nicklaus at any other age...




    I like what you said last. The bits about hit it far and figure out straight later. That is the only way you learn speed and it is precisely why people don't learn it later in life. It is not because they can't it is because it is an endeavor that takes dedication and lots of time. You can really take two steps back before taking two steps forward pursuing speed. Many good golfers refuse to practice swinging fast on the range because they are embarrassed and because they don't want to mess up their swing. You can also injure yourself doing this as you are pushing your limits.



    What would have been best is if when we were kids, we had a golf instructor and that instructor showed us the basic mechanics of the golf swing and then that same instructor said, "now swing as fast as you can". You would learn how to create speed at a young age and have plenty of time ahead of you to harness that speed and make it accurate, and or learn to slow it down and speed it up as needed.



    You have to be prepared for what pursuing speed can possibly do to you in the short term to achieve your long term goals. For some it can really mess up your swing, for others, they will only see the speed increases, others will get hurt and they might stop pursuing it because of that.
  • mission_scratchmission_scratch Lefty Boomers Posts: 1,072 ✭✭
    clevited wrote:



    Can't believe I missed this thread for so long...



    My wife got me a set and the monitor for Christmas in 2017. Last year I inconsistently worked out with them, and still noticed an improvement in my SS over time...



    My whole goal was to increase my overall SS so that I could swing at 90% and be close to where my old 100% SS was at. I felt my ego get the best on me on almost every tee shot, but if I could increase my SS and swing at 90% and not lose distance, I could be a better driver of the golf ball..





    Actually Started using them again on Saturday. And worked out again with them last night.



    Keeping a journal of my progress this year. Only issue is I will also be doing a workout routine to help with speed as well, so I wont have a true testament of how much its the SSG or the working out.



    Last nights numbers -

    Best Speeds-

    Light - 131

    Medium - 126

    Heavy - 120

    (I feel like I should be able to hit higher speeds with the light club since my medium is 126. I would of expected a bigger gap)



    Will try to post numbers often in here to give some feedback on the clubs.




    You do have a weird issue with the green stick. Several people I have seen their numbers for each stick, pretty consistent increases for each stick. Your green stick speed does not fit. From what I have observed for these people....



    Blue is 105.38% of Red

    Green is 114.45% of Red



    So you should be at 126 mph blue (which you are) and 137 mph green or there about. Maybe it just feels too light and you dump speed before radar?




    You may be right. Since after warming up my Green is the first swings since that's what the protocol says to do. Then the 2nd round with the green is right after the red, so it feels super light and yesterday I felt like I was loose and getting great speeds, which I was, just not with the green. I am going to keep an eye on my numbers and see if this is just an abnormality with the last two workouts or an issue with the club being so light.
  • tyorke1tyorke1 Advanced Members Posts: 2,132 ✭✭
    I made my set longer, anyone swingweight them, my green is a little heavy at 274 and my heavy is 372, my driver is 329grams, blue is good
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  • Kcct82Kcct82 Members Posts: 5
    Hi, for those who have bought the system, did you get more detailed instructions? Or do you just follow the instructions on their website? I found the junior and stability instructions to be quite vague and short online. For example, “stability 1” has you standing on a pad for 30 seconds,that’s it? 3x a week for 30 seconds each time? Thanks
  • HondabuffHondabuff Advanced Members Posts: 1,481
    So I bought a new driver and finally got the dream build I always wanted. I suddenly found myself motivated to start back up the SuperSpeed system after not doing it for over a year. Had to purchase a new Radar and the first time out was not pretty. Wow was I ought of shape and the speeds were slow. My forearms and wrists have lost so much not doing the program and hitting some balls with the TS2, My club head speed was only 100mph and felt like it took some effort to reach that. Im on my 3rd session in the past 12 days and last nights session, Im already seeing 105-107mph with the blue club. Practice rounds for my golf league start April 2nd and I fully anticipate getting up over 110mph by then. I may switch it up this year and just use my one shaft that has no head on it. The 3 club system seems good for building overall strength but the super light shaft builds speed 10x faster.
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  • TMfan54TMfan54 Advanced Members Posts: 2,242 ✭✭
    Was just placing an order, but $300 then another $26 to ship? C'mon man
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    TMfan54 wrote:


    Was just placing an order, but $300 then another $26 to ship? C'mon man






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    I think I’m going to look into one. Try and recapture some of that distance that has slipped away over the last couple years.
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  • Z1ggy16Z1ggy16 Advanced Members Posts: 7,020 ✭✭
    Got my SSR in today. Pumped for all the gains!
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  • ClambakeClambake Advanced Members Posts: 602 ✭✭
    TMfan54 wrote:


    Was just placing an order, but $300 then another $26 to ship? C'mon man




    They’re sold on Amazon. Free shipping with Prime.
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