Tell-Tale Signs of Fake Epons -- or the Contact at Epon for help

mbrown1833mbrown1833 Members Posts: 444 ✭✭
Epon irons are beautiful but I'm having a hard time telling if any given set are legitimate or not. And I also can't find the contact for Epon to tell me if they are to not. Very difficult to buy a product if there isn't a contact set up from the company's website!



HELP!
Titleist - 917-D3, 8.5 - AD BB-6X
Titleist - 917-F, 15 - AD BB-7X
Titleist - 916 T-MB 2 Iron - AD DI-105x
BB&F Co - DW - CB, 4-P - TI AMT X100
BB&F Co - DW - 53 & 58
Lamb Crafted - Allendale
MacKenzie - Sugarloaf Walker
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  • NessismNessism To measure is to know... Members Posts: 18,212 ✭✭
    Who in their right mind would counterfeit a club that only sells a few hundred sets a year?
    Ping G400 driver w/Adila Rogue 125 Silver 60S
    Cobra F7 5 wood w/Aldila Black 70S
    TEE Pro 21* hybrid (hook machine)
    Ping G410 irons w/Recoil 95S (i200 backups)
    Ping Glide 50/55/60 wedges w/Recoil 110S
    Ping Anser/Arna putter - the "real deal!"
  • mbrown1833mbrown1833 Members Posts: 444 ✭✭
    Nessism wrote:


    Who in their right mind would counterfeit a club that only sells a few hundred sets a year?




    no offense but I think you answered your own question.
    Titleist - 917-D3, 8.5 - AD BB-6X
    Titleist - 917-F, 15 - AD BB-7X
    Titleist - 916 T-MB 2 Iron - AD DI-105x
    BB&F Co - DW - CB, 4-P - TI AMT X100
    BB&F Co - DW - 53 & 58
    Lamb Crafted - Allendale
    MacKenzie - Sugarloaf Walker
  • Tex1986Tex1986 Members Posts: 1,771 ✭✭
    edited Jan 25, 2017 #4
    Epon probably is able to track/identify clubs more easily since they produce less volume. This generally should make it harder for fakes to sneak into the market.
  • augustgolfaugustgolf Golf with dignity Coastal NCMembers Posts: 3,891 ✭✭
    In the "FWIW" department.....if you want the real thing, get it from the real people making it.
    Pings from the beginning

    OGA member 1415
    or is it 1514...
    I don't remember exactly
  • NessismNessism To measure is to know... Members Posts: 18,212 ✭✭
    mbrown1833 wrote:

    Nessism wrote:


    Who in their right mind would counterfeit a club that only sells a few hundred sets a year?




    no offense but I think you answered your own question.




    Sorry for my snarking reply. It's just that we get a lot of these threads where someone is questioning the legitimacy of some very low volume and specialized clubs that the counterfeiter guys wouldn't bother to copy because there is no real market for them. If you are still worried just purchase from a place like Fairway Golf or Tour Spec Golf that sell a lot of JDM clubs.
    Ping G400 driver w/Adila Rogue 125 Silver 60S
    Cobra F7 5 wood w/Aldila Black 70S
    TEE Pro 21* hybrid (hook machine)
    Ping G410 irons w/Recoil 95S (i200 backups)
    Ping Glide 50/55/60 wedges w/Recoil 110S
    Ping Anser/Arna putter - the "real deal!"
  • mbrown1833mbrown1833 Members Posts: 444 ✭✭
    edited Jan 25, 2017 #7
    Tex1986 wrote:


    Epon probably is able to track/identify clubs more easily since they produce less volume. This generally should make it harder for fakes to sneak into the market.




    If a customer can't get ahold of Epon, it doesn't matter if they track or not.. do you have their contact info? (:


    augustgolf wrote:


    In the "FWIW" department.....if you want the real thing, get it from the real people making it.




    They're involved in a trade... (:
    Titleist - 917-D3, 8.5 - AD BB-6X
    Titleist - 917-F, 15 - AD BB-7X
    Titleist - 916 T-MB 2 Iron - AD DI-105x
    BB&F Co - DW - CB, 4-P - TI AMT X100
    BB&F Co - DW - 53 & 58
    Lamb Crafted - Allendale
    MacKenzie - Sugarloaf Walker
  • roadtrippin4550roadtrippin4550 Members Posts: 201
    Do you have a picture?
    WITB

    Driver: Titleist TS3 9.5 (C1) - Fujikura Atmos Tour Spec Black 7X
    3 Wood: Callaway X2 Hot Pro 15* - UST VTS Black 8x
    Hybrid: Adams Pro Mini 20* - Aerotech SteelFiber 110X
    Irons: Mizuno MP-15 - Nippon Modus Tour 130X
    Wedge: Cleveland RTX-4 50* Mid - KBS $-Taper 130X
    Wedge: Cleveland RTX-4 56* Mid - KBS $-Taper 130X
    Wedge: Cleveland RTX-4 60* Low - KBS $-Taper 130X
    Putter: Scotty Cameron Studio Stainless Newport Beach 1.5
  • kingarthurkingarthur Members Posts: 585 ✭✭
    Nessism wrote:

    mbrown1833 wrote:

    Nessism wrote:


    Who in their right mind would counterfeit a club that only sells a few hundred sets a year?




    no offense but I think you answered your own question.




    Sorry for my snarking reply. It's just that we get a lot of these threads where someone is questioning the legitimacy of some very low volume and specialized clubs that the counterfeiter guys wouldn't bother to copy because there is no real market for them. If you are still worried just purchase from a place like Fairway Golf or Tour Spec Golf that sell a lot of JDM clubs.
    both Epon/Miura are counterfeited in China/ SE Asia where golfers are still less knowledgeable about equipment in general. I have seen first hand some fairly ridiculous fake clubs out there from every brand.
  • mbrown1833mbrown1833 Members Posts: 444 ✭✭
    Do you have a picture?




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    Titleist - 917-D3, 8.5 - AD BB-6X
    Titleist - 917-F, 15 - AD BB-7X
    Titleist - 916 T-MB 2 Iron - AD DI-105x
    BB&F Co - DW - CB, 4-P - TI AMT X100
    BB&F Co - DW - 53 & 58
    Lamb Crafted - Allendale
    MacKenzie - Sugarloaf Walker
  • Tex1986Tex1986 Members Posts: 1,771 ✭✭
    mbrown1833 wrote:
    Tex1986 wrote:


    Epon probably is able to track/identify clubs more easily since they produce less volume. This generally should make it harder for fakes to sneak into the market.




    If a customer can't get ahold of Epon, it doesn't matter if they track or not.. do you have their contact info? (:


    augustgolf wrote:


    In the "FWIW" department.....if you want the real thing, get it from the real people making it.




    They're involved in a trade... (:




    No idea about their contact info. Epons are out of my price range. I bet their company website has a general contact email/phone#.
  • mbrown1833mbrown1833 Members Posts: 444 ✭✭
    Tex1986 wrote:

    mbrown1833 wrote:
    Tex1986 wrote:


    Epon probably is able to track/identify clubs more easily since they produce less volume. This generally should make it harder for fakes to sneak into the market.




    If a customer can't get ahold of Epon, it doesn't matter if they track or not.. do you have their contact info? (:


    augustgolf wrote:


    In the "FWIW" department.....if you want the real thing, get it from the real people making it.




    They're involved in a trade... (:




    No idea about their contact info. Epons are out of my price range. I bet their company website has a general contact email/phone#.




    it does not. obi first place i looked (;
    Titleist - 917-D3, 8.5 - AD BB-6X
    Titleist - 917-F, 15 - AD BB-7X
    Titleist - 916 T-MB 2 Iron - AD DI-105x
    BB&F Co - DW - CB, 4-P - TI AMT X100
    BB&F Co - DW - 53 & 58
    Lamb Crafted - Allendale
    MacKenzie - Sugarloaf Walker
  • NessismNessism To measure is to know... Members Posts: 18,212 ✭✭
    Contact Endo and ask for a US based contact...http://endo-mfg.co.jp/eng/
    Ping G400 driver w/Adila Rogue 125 Silver 60S
    Cobra F7 5 wood w/Aldila Black 70S
    TEE Pro 21* hybrid (hook machine)
    Ping G410 irons w/Recoil 95S (i200 backups)
    Ping Glide 50/55/60 wedges w/Recoil 110S
    Ping Anser/Arna putter - the "real deal!"
  • Kingcat990Kingcat990 European Tailored Golf Socks Members Posts: 3,808 ✭✭
    edited Jan 25, 2017 #14
    Not many Personal's out there. Especially in that condition. I think they only made 500 sets. A company called AFD made a set similar to those called the Air Muscle. Similar...



    I personally don't think yours are fake. They look legit. Beautiful set



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  • Tyus StonesTyus Stones Duke's out. I'm suspended. Definitely not a high point.. Members Posts: 2,048 ✭✭
    Super fake.



    I'll take em off your hands for $200 though (you know, as an act of goodwill towards someone who got scammed)
  • roadtrippin4550roadtrippin4550 Members Posts: 201
    Everything looks good.



    The finish is correct, the number font looks right, the "forged" stamping is the proper font and correct size, the serial number is in the proper alpha numeric order and correct size.



    I would say they are legit.
    WITB

    Driver: Titleist TS3 9.5 (C1) - Fujikura Atmos Tour Spec Black 7X
    3 Wood: Callaway X2 Hot Pro 15* - UST VTS Black 8x
    Hybrid: Adams Pro Mini 20* - Aerotech SteelFiber 110X
    Irons: Mizuno MP-15 - Nippon Modus Tour 130X
    Wedge: Cleveland RTX-4 50* Mid - KBS $-Taper 130X
    Wedge: Cleveland RTX-4 56* Mid - KBS $-Taper 130X
    Wedge: Cleveland RTX-4 60* Low - KBS $-Taper 130X
    Putter: Scotty Cameron Studio Stainless Newport Beach 1.5
  • OldplayerOldplayer Members Posts: 2,360 ✭✭
    Nessism wrote:


    Who in their right mind would counterfeit a club that only sells a few hundred sets a year?


    I've seen fake Epons. They were very poor copies but fakes nevertheless.

    Those personals in the pics look legit for sure.
  • flopshot99flopshot99 Banned Posts: 946
    You can contact the USA distributor for epon...William Cho novagolf. I'd buy epon from legit and honest dealers...top 100 comes to mind.
  • thekangathekanga Members Posts: 136 ✭✭
    I've had success in the past contacting Epon via [email protected]

  • TheBoomer TheBoomer Members Posts: 3,373 ✭✭
    edited Jan 26, 2017 #20
    Legit 100 %
    Something Rare
    Something JDM
    WITB Link
  • mbrown1833mbrown1833 Members Posts: 444 ✭✭
    Thank you, everyone, for your help. Much appreciated.



    I ended up picking them up from a great member here. If he sees the post I hope he doesn't mind-- I just have no idea with Japanese irons. Camerons I can look at all day and get probably 95% but I've been a Titleist loyalist for a long time and am now pretty deep in Japanese irons. So any bit helps-- I really appreciate it!



    Regards,

    Miles
    Titleist - 917-D3, 8.5 - AD BB-6X
    Titleist - 917-F, 15 - AD BB-7X
    Titleist - 916 T-MB 2 Iron - AD DI-105x
    BB&F Co - DW - CB, 4-P - TI AMT X100
    BB&F Co - DW - 53 & 58
    Lamb Crafted - Allendale
    MacKenzie - Sugarloaf Walker
  • kaaayelllkaaayelll Members Posts: 802 ✭✭
    Just to add a little more info, the serial number on Epons is only on the 7i.
  • bladehunterbladehunter Today was a good day.... Members Posts: 25,109 ✭✭
    edited Jan 27, 2017 #23
    mbrown1833 wrote:


    Thank you, everyone, for your help. Much appreciated.



    I ended up picking them up from a great member here. If he sees the post I hope he doesn't mind-- I just have no idea with Japanese irons. Camerons I can look at all day and get probably 95% but I've been a Titleist loyalist for a long time and am now pretty deep in Japanese irons. So any bit helps-- I really appreciate it!



    Regards,

    Miles






    might i ask how long the longneck is in your avatar pic? I ask because im a longneck player and found that not all longnecks are the same ... i prefer longer and face balanced.. looks like that button back is on the longer side..
    TM Tour M6 11.2 * KK Tini XTS 70X
    TM Tour 17 M1 14.5* Graphite Design ADDI 8x
    Titleist Tour Proto MB 3-pw Modus 130X
    Ping Glide Forged   54 60 S400
    Cameron GSS 009 1.5 tungsten sole weights, sound slot
  • toophewbirdiestoophewbirdies Members Posts: 1,114 ✭✭
    Don't mind at all and would do the same, if I were in your shoes! image/wink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' />
  • mbrown1833mbrown1833 Members Posts: 444 ✭✭

    mbrown1833 wrote:


    Thank you, everyone, for your help. Much appreciated.



    I ended up picking them up from a great member here. If he sees the post I hope he doesn't mind-- I just have no idea with Japanese irons. Camerons I can look at all day and get probably 95% but I've been a Titleist loyalist for a long time and am now pretty deep in Japanese irons. So any bit helps-- I really appreciate it!



    Regards,

    Miles






    might i ask how long the longneck is in your avatar pic? I ask because im a longneck player and found that not all longnecks are the same ... i prefer longer and face balanced.. looks like that button back is on the longer side..




    I no longer have that putter but am actually trying to get it back. You are correct about the different lengths and it is on the longer side but it is not totally face-balanced.
    Titleist - 917-D3, 8.5 - AD BB-6X
    Titleist - 917-F, 15 - AD BB-7X
    Titleist - 916 T-MB 2 Iron - AD DI-105x
    BB&F Co - DW - CB, 4-P - TI AMT X100
    BB&F Co - DW - 53 & 58
    Lamb Crafted - Allendale
    MacKenzie - Sugarloaf Walker
  • bladehunterbladehunter Today was a good day.... Members Posts: 25,109 ✭✭
    mbrown1833 wrote:


    mbrown1833 wrote:


    Thank you, everyone, for your help. Much appreciated.



    I ended up picking them up from a great member here. If he sees the post I hope he doesn't mind-- I just have no idea with Japanese irons. Camerons I can look at all day and get probably 95% but I've been a Titleist loyalist for a long time and am now pretty deep in Japanese irons. So any bit helps-- I really appreciate it!



    Regards,

    Miles






    might i ask how long the longneck is in your avatar pic? I ask because im a longneck player and found that not all longnecks are the same ... i prefer longer and face balanced.. looks like that button back is on the longer side..




    I no longer have that putter but am actually trying to get it back. You are correct about the different lengths and it is on the longer side but it is not totally face-balanced.






    gotcha... well it looks like a nice piece! and good luck getting it back... i have gotten rid of one or two in my day ( ahem GSS Ma/66 ^^^^^^^^^) that i regret .. but hey weve all done it and i guess they can all be replaced if we want to spend enough ..lol
    TM Tour M6 11.2 * KK Tini XTS 70X
    TM Tour 17 M1 14.5* Graphite Design ADDI 8x
    Titleist Tour Proto MB 3-pw Modus 130X
    Ping Glide Forged   54 60 S400
    Cameron GSS 009 1.5 tungsten sole weights, sound slot
  • ThayneilThayneil Members Posts: 523 ✭✭
    mbrown1833 wrote:


    Epon irons are beautiful but I'm having a hard time telling if any given set are legitimate or not. And I also can't find the contact for Epon to tell me if they are to not. Very difficult to buy a product if there isn't a contact set up from the company's website!



    HELP!




    there are plenty sets on Alibaba



    they are copies and are generally perfect except they are cast not forged



    polished/satin finish but not chrome plated



    $320 for the heads
  • toophewbirdiestoophewbirdies Members Posts: 1,114 ✭✭

    mbrown1833 wrote:


    mbrown1833 wrote:


    Thank you, everyone, for your help. Much appreciated.



    I ended up picking them up from a great member here. If he sees the post I hope he doesn't mind-- I just have no idea with Japanese irons. Camerons I can look at all day and get probably 95% but I've been a Titleist loyalist for a long time and am now pretty deep in Japanese irons. So any bit helps-- I really appreciate it!



    Regards,

    Miles






    might i ask how long the longneck is in your avatar pic? I ask because im a longneck player and found that not all longnecks are the same ... i prefer longer and face balanced.. looks like that button back is on the longer side..




    I no longer have that putter but am actually trying to get it back. You are correct about the different lengths and it is on the longer side but it is not totally face-balanced.






    gotcha... well it looks like a nice piece! and good luck getting it back... i have gotten rid of one or two in my day ( ahem GSS Ma/66 ^^^^^^^^^) that i regret .. but hey weve all done it and i guess they can all be replaced if we want to spend enough ..lol




    What, you mean this ole thing.........??????!!! image/wink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' />



  • bladehunterbladehunter Today was a good day.... Members Posts: 25,109 ✭✭


    mbrown1833 wrote:


    mbrown1833 wrote:


    Thank you, everyone, for your help. Much appreciated.



    I ended up picking them up from a great member here. If he sees the post I hope he doesn't mind-- I just have no idea with Japanese irons. Camerons I can look at all day and get probably 95% but I've been a Titleist loyalist for a long time and am now pretty deep in Japanese irons. So any bit helps-- I really appreciate it!



    Regards,

    Miles






    might i ask how long the longneck is in your avatar pic? I ask because im a longneck player and found that not all longnecks are the same ... i prefer longer and face balanced.. looks like that button back is on the longer side..




    I no longer have that putter but am actually trying to get it back. You are correct about the different lengths and it is on the longer side but it is not totally face-balanced.






    gotcha... well it looks like a nice piece! and good luck getting it back... i have gotten rid of one or two in my day ( ahem GSS Ma/66 ^^^^^^^^^) that i regret .. but hey weve all done it and i guess they can all be replaced if we want to spend enough ..lol




    What, you mean this ole thing.........??????!!! image/wink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' />









    yea sure...rub it in !! lol
    TM Tour M6 11.2 * KK Tini XTS 70X
    TM Tour 17 M1 14.5* Graphite Design ADDI 8x
    Titleist Tour Proto MB 3-pw Modus 130X
    Ping Glide Forged   54 60 S400
    Cameron GSS 009 1.5 tungsten sole weights, sound slot
  • MizunofanMizunofan Northern NJ (NYC Metro area)Members Posts: 598 ✭✭
    edited Jan 29, 2017 #30
    I bought my set of EPON AF-Tour blades from NOVOGOLF (one of the first authorized EPON dealers on the East Coast) and the only location the serial number was LASER-ETCHED (not engraved as in your pics) was on either the 6i or 7i. The Personals may be different, but I would definitely call Bill Cho at NOVOGOLF to confirm.
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    Mizuno MP Titanium + Fujikura Fit-On-11! Pro95s
    TourStage X-UT 21* + Nippon NS Pro950 UT
    Irons: Mizuno MP-37/30 + DG S300
    Mizuno MP-T5/TM Tour Preferred/Mizuno MP-T5
    Scotty Cameron Studio Stainless Newport Beach
  • JBWJBW Members Posts: 210
    Epon does have counterfeit info on their website. Your irons seem to be genuine, the serial# is stamped and is only on the 7 iron.



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