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  • 300_yard_drives300_yard_drives Jr. Boomers Posts: 1,177 ✭✭


    Anyone got an extra they are willing to part with? I’m struggling to find one online and wanted to check here before building
    Ive got a kuchar #2 collecting dust and it will not be used again.
  • Deuce78Deuce78 Advanced Members Posts: 1,238
    I could part with one, see post #39...
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  • MaineMarinerMaineMariner Advanced Members Posts: 263 ✭✭
    edited February 21
    I don't want to keep spamming the Odyssey Arm Lock thread, but mine arrived today. This is my first experience with any sort of arm lock putter, and it has been very interesting.



    My immediate thought after hitting a few putts was... oh my god I hate this. It felt unnatural, forced, and weird. I think I LOOKED like I was doing it right, but it felt bizarre. Really, it was hard to even hold the putter correctly at all. Most importantly, it didn't feel like the putter was "locked" into anything.



    However, I fiddled and fussed and within maybe 10 minutes I figured out some things and started to come around. Within an hour I was sold. Two hours later and I can't stop putting.



    I think the key for me was realizing that I needed to kind of have some pressure pushing back on the shaft with my left arm. Also my right hand sort of pushes on my left. I'm not tense in any way, it's just a little bit of pressure holding things in place. This is what "locks" the putter into my arm. Once I figured that out, the rest fell into place. Just relax your shoulders, rock, and watch the ball go straight down the middle.



    The obvious caveat here is that I'm putting on a 5-foot rug and not a green, and who knows how distance control will be, but getting the putt moving on a straight line is the most important thing, right?



    The funny this is that I tried out my normal putter after a couple hours with the arm lock and the regular putter felt REALLY weird! Like it was just kind flopping around on the takeaway and through swing. Maybe I'm just mental.
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  • bladehunterbladehunter Today was a good day.... Advanced Members Posts: 24,220 ✭✭
    edited February 21
    Wdwfreak wrote:


    So i was way in on arm lock and very committed to it but after hours and hours of technique practice and some good results, but... to be frank, I didn't think it was giving me any better results than what I was getting from a traditional putter.



    In particular I cannot quite shake it, I have an awful tendency for the pulls with arm locking, it seems like I pull almost everything.



    So I went back to a regular length putter, but with a change, the Stricker method. What he calls for is a firm left hand dominant stroke where he ulnar deviates "cups" his left wrist and grips the club in his palm rather than his fingers. Then you match the putter shaft to the angle of your forearms, hence his heel slightly off the ground. it provided a sense of "locking" that I had never felt before in a regular length putter. Guess it helps to listen to one of the best putters ever.



    And, to my surprise without the hours of grinding or setup work with the arm lock I was hitting better putts in seriously about 3.5 minutes. Its hard to find the right balance where I was putting in a ton of work and seeing marginal results with arm lock, for a long time I thought I just needed time to get used to it but now i'm really not sure if its giving the proper results. Maybe not the "advantage" I was starting to feel I thought it was.




    I’ve tried it too and got the same exact thing. Mostly just do not see the benefit. I guess if you flip the putter head shut maybe. My miss is a push usually alignment to begin with. Not the flips. That and I have never yet felt comfortable with one. It just doesn’t matchup to my arm angle wise. My forearms are popeye ish and if it’s in my forearm then my left wrist needs to be cupped to the max to grip the club. Super uncomfortable
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  • swizbeatzswizbeatz Advanced Members Posts: 5,579 ✭✭


    I don't want to keep spamming the Odyssey Arm Lock thread, but mine arrived today. This is my first experience with any sort of arm lock putter, and it has been very interesting.



    My immediate thought after hitting a few putts was... oh my god I hate this. It felt unnatural, forced, and weird. I think I LOOKED like I was doing it right, but it felt bizarre. Really, it was hard to even hold the putter correctly at all. Most importantly, it didn't feel like the putter was "locked" into anything.



    However, I fiddled and fussed and within maybe 10 minutes I figured out some things and started to come around. Within an hour I was sold. Two hours later and I can't stop putting.



    I think the key for me was realizing that I needed to kind of have some pressure pushing back on the shaft with my left arm. Also my right hand sort of pushes on my left. I'm not tense in any way, it's just a little bit of pressure holding things in place. This is what "locks" the putter into my arm. Once I figured that out, the rest fell into place. Just relax your shoulders, rock, and watch the ball go straight down the middle.



    The obvious caveat here is that I'm putting on a 5-foot rug and not a green, and who knows how distance control will be, but getting the putt moving on a straight line is the most important thing, right?



    The funny this is that I tried out my normal putter after a couple hours with the arm lock and the regular putter felt REALLY weird! Like it was just kind flopping around on the takeaway and through swing. Maybe I'm just mental.




    My left thumb is on the ridge of the opposite side of the grip putting pressure into my left arm like you said. I could hit one armed putts, not that it’d be great.
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  • jas904jas904 Advanced Members Posts: 1,369 ✭✭


    I don't want to keep spamming the Odyssey Arm Lock thread, but mine arrived today. This is my first experience with any sort of arm lock putter, and it has been very interesting.



    My immediate thought after hitting a few putts was... oh my god I hate this. It felt unnatural, forced, and weird. I think I LOOKED like I was doing it right, but it felt bizarre. Really, it was hard to even hold the putter correctly at all. Most importantly, it didn't feel like the putter was "locked" into anything.



    However, I fiddled and fussed and within maybe 10 minutes I figured out some things and started to come around. Within an hour I was sold. Two hours later and I can't stop putting.



    I think the key for me was realizing that I needed to kind of have some pressure pushing back on the shaft with my left arm. Also my right hand sort of pushes on my left. I'm not tense in any way, it's just a little bit of pressure holding things in place. This is what "locks" the putter into my arm. Once I figured that out, the rest fell into place. Just relax your shoulders, rock, and watch the ball go straight down the middle.



    The obvious caveat here is that I'm putting on a 5-foot rug and not a green, and who knows how distance control will be, but getting the putt moving on a straight line is the most important thing, right?



    The funny this is that I tried out my normal putter after a couple hours with the arm lock and the regular putter felt REALLY weird! Like it was just kind flopping around on the takeaway and through swing. Maybe I'm just mental.




    Maine -



    I've been following your journey into armlock in this and the other thread. I made the switch quite sometime ago after my aging body developed a right hand that had a mind of it's own while conventional putting. I refuse to use the "Y" word. Luckily for me, I live in the same town and have known Bryson's coach, Mike Schy, for over 20 years. I bought a 388 gram head Ping Ketcsh that was extended to 40" and had 7 degrees of loft.



    There were a couple of adjustments that made the switch really fall into place. First was the grip. For me the more conventional grip was way to thin. I put a Superstroke 1.3 on and it was much better. My buddy has the Superstroke 1.7 on his and personally for me that was a bit to large. The second thing that made an even bigger different was when Mike spun it so that the flat side of the grip was against the inside of my left forearm. That really locked it in - pun intended.



    Mike also worked with me on my set up position. I had to stand a touch taller and get a little closer to the ball to get my eyes a bit more over the ball. As a result the lie angle had to be a bit more upright. I really believe that this style of putting is more sensitive to loft/lie adjustments that any other.



    The other thing I had to learn (it sounds like you have already figured this out) is there can be absolutely no hand/wrist movement during the stroke. If so, the shaft comes off of your forearm which defeats the while purpose. The only thing that moves the putter is rocking your shoulders. I too accomplished this by using my right hand to place a little pressure against the shaft so that it remains attached. The whole process seemed a little bit robotic at first. Also, for me distance control on long puts was an issue at first. I left them dreadfully short. It quickly went away after about a week of practice though.



    For me this method of putting has produced some pretty good results. The line on my ball rolls tight end over end. I feel like the majority of the time I roll it right where I am looking. Now if I could only look in the right spot...
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  • MaineMarinerMaineMariner Advanced Members Posts: 263 ✭✭
    Thanks for sharing your thoughts, I appreciate it. This morning I decided to give it a go again before work and it felt just like when the putter was new - the butt end was just kind of flopping around, not really locked into anything. I didn't despair, though, because I realize there's going to be an adjustment. A few minutes later I was back to that "locked in" feeling. I honestly can't describe it, but there are times where I just plain "get it" and it feels fantastic. I'm just going to have to keep working on it.



    The grip is definitely the first thing I'm thinking about changing out on the Odyssey. It's a Winn 21-inch, and it's not very thick. I do think that a thicker grip would be helpful. I'm also intrigued by the flat side towards the target suggestion. I saw that Bryson's grip will be released to the public in April, so I'll probably jump on that. Rosemark also has a 17-inch grip that might work well too. I'm a huge fan of their regular grips.
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  • g-offg-off Advanced Members Posts: 283 ✭✭
    Maine,

    kinda in the same boat as you, I also think a thicker grip helps, found a ss on the bay and waiting for it to come in, when I keep it anchored to my arm it rolls nicely but when you feel it get loose who knows where the ball is going
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  • spoonek9spoonek9 Advanced Members Posts: 467
    This grip has a very aggressive taper that helps and it takes some of the forward press out of the setup. The hole running thru the grip isn't centered. It is very heavy too.



    https://www.amazon.com/Arm-Lock-Converter-Flap-Putter/dp/B07MTPTSWL/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1550854752&sr=8-5&keywords=armlock+putter+grip
  • sampga1976sampga1976 PGA Professional Advanced Members Posts: 596 ✭✭
    spoonek9 wrote:


    This grip has a very aggressive taper that helps and it takes some of the forward press out of the setup. The hole running thru the grip isn't centered. It is very heavy too.



    https://www.amazon.c...ock putter grip


    I have had these grips and tried one personally when I owned my golf shop. As an previous and now off-and-on user of the armlock style, this grip was very intriguing. The built-in 2º added loft does help with set up, especially using putters that aren't specific AL's with the additional loft. The biggest problem with this grip... it weights about 400 grams!!! and completely changes the feel of the putter. That ended up being a deal breaker.
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  • MaineMarinerMaineMariner Advanced Members Posts: 263 ✭✭
    Literally every time I putt with this thing I like it more and I feel more confident. I actually don't think I need to alter the putter at all - I figured out a grip and stance that works and is easy to replicate.



    Is it as comfortable as a regular putter? No, but the security blanket feeling of the arm lock more than makes up for it. A regular putter feels plain floppy and sloppy after using the arm lock.
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  • poppman2142poppman2142 Advanced Members Posts: 1,134 ✭✭
    Going to give the armlock a go one more time. I have used the kuchar model 2 in the past with not much success but going to give it a go one more time but going more upright like Bryson with a matrix graphite shaft.



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  • swizbeatzswizbeatz Advanced Members Posts: 5,579 ✭✭
    Sweet putter
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  • Deuce78Deuce78 Advanced Members Posts: 1,238
    Thing is pure! Curious how the shaft feels. Lots of flex with the graphite?
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  • poppman2142poppman2142 Advanced Members Posts: 1,134 ✭✭
    edited February 26
    Deuce78 wrote:
    Thing is pure! Curious how the shaft feels. Lots of flex with the graphite?




    It feels more flexible than the standard ski pole steel shaft but not to where it feels loose or out of control. I am waiting for a new jumbomax arm lock grip to come in to try. I have a winn flatso 17” on there now, but the jumbomax is a little heavier, so I will see how that works out.
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  • MattM97MattM97 Advanced Members Posts: 124 ✭✭
    I'm curious about trying an arm lock putter but I'm a lefty and a lefty arm lock putter might be harder to find than a literal unicorn.



    I guess I'll have to build my own then, so what are some heads I should look out for that I can bend to the proper loft?
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  • sampga1976sampga1976 PGA Professional Advanced Members Posts: 596 ✭✭
    MattM97 wrote:


    I'm curious about trying an arm lock putter but I'm a lefty and a lefty arm lock putter might be harder to find than a literal unicorn.



    I guess I'll have to build my own then, so what are some heads I should look out for that I can bend to the proper loft?


    You need to find heavier heads that either have a spud neck or plumbers neck. You don't want to try to bend a hosel design in where the shaft is bonded straight into the head; its possible but more difficult. I've made a few Odyssey Tank #7's into armlocks by extending the shaft to playing length, regripping with grip of choice, and having about 2º of loft added to the putter head by bending the shaft forward.
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  • MattM97MattM97 Advanced Members Posts: 124 ✭✭
    sampga1976 wrote:
    MattM97 wrote:
    I'm curious about trying an arm lock putter but I'm a lefty and a lefty arm lock putter might be harder to find than a literal unicorn. I guess I'll have to build my own then, so what are some heads I should look out for that I can bend to the proper loft?
    You need to find heavier heads that either have a spud neck or plumbers neck. You don't want to try to bend a hosel design in where the shaft is bonded straight into the head; its possible but more difficult. I've made a few Odyssey Tank #7's into armlocks by extending the shaft to playing length, regripping with grip of choice, and having about 2º of loft added to the putter head by bending the shaft forward.




    Thanks the neck type will be easy to find just one with a lot of weight. I could use an Odyssey Tank but I don't like the feel of Odyssey putters.



    I'll check online and local pages to see if I can find something.
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  • g-offg-off Advanced Members Posts: 283 ✭✭
    anyone gone with a shorter version? I usually play 31-32" putter picked up a model 1 that was cut down to 34 i'm thinking 36-37 would be perfect, I also have popeye forearms and find shorter putter can lock in just below the forearm
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  • gunmetalgunmetal Advanced Members Posts: 1,801 ✭✭


    Deuce78 wrote:


    I think it would be hard for them to ban arm locking. I say that because it was not very long ago they revised the rules and made the changes they felt were correct. It took a very long time for them to make the decision to ban anchored putters. Arm lock is not anchored, the grip end moves during the stroke...its going to be around a long time...which is great for me. Haha.


    I hope you're right, because I've been arm locking for years and it made me a much better golfer. I swear, the first time I arm locked, I actually felt what it was like to hit a putt solid. And I think I've hit every putt solid in the 5 years since. It still feels awkward to me though; as Bladehunter mentioned, it physically hurts, but it's so worth it to actually make some putts.



    Since I've seen a bunch of golfers on tour who sucked on the green suddenly turn into decent to great putters with arm lock, I've started to practice with a conventional putter, just in preparation for a ban. The USGA has a pattern. When the Adam Scott's, Webb Simpson's, Jason Dufner's, Bryson D's of the world switch en masse to a certain method and it changes their games, they look for ways to ban it. Doesn't matter if it matches the current definition of anchoring. They will make an amendment that includes fixing the shaft to an arm. You can make every argument for why fixing the shaft to an arm that they did for anchoring.



    Get ready for it arm lockers. I'd bet most of my life savings on this method getting banned.


    I agree with you 100%. When the bad putters get better. They start looking. I'd bet with you. And honestly don't want to see it. It would be easy to ban. And they hate Bryson so there's lots of motives. Lol. ( mutual hate I think ).




    If they try and ban it everyone will point to their own research that concluded that not only didn't they forbid the use of armlock but they RECOMMENDED the use to those who were anchoring in the belly or chest. The USGA isn't the brightest organization, but even they know they can't do that.
  • gunmetalgunmetal Advanced Members Posts: 1,801 ✭✭


    Literally every time I putt with this thing I like it more and I feel more confident. I actually don't think I need to alter the putter at all - I figured out a grip and stance that works and is easy to replicate.



    Is it as comfortable as a regular putter? No, but the security blanket feeling of the arm lock more than makes up for it. A regular putter feels plain floppy and sloppy after using the arm lock.




    I think this is the key, and what causes many people to give up. You really have to alter your entire setup - ESPECIALLY if you weren't fit for it based off your previous putting posture. Someone was saying something about pulling every putt and I immediately thought to myself you're likely still utilizing much if not all of your previous putting posture.



    I don't like it because it really slows down play, but early on everyone who adopts the Arm Lock really should be putting a line on the ball and lining that line up with your intended line. Then you place the head directly behind the ball and lined up with your line on the ball with the putter perfectly soled. If this posture feels to awkward to get used to then you need to get fit to the point where it doesn't hurt or feel awkward. Bottom line is that putter head has to be in the correct position. Seems obvious but I think those who struggle are just tied to their previous posture too much and this causes a struggle to get the putter head positioned and lined up properly.



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  • gunmetalgunmetal Advanced Members Posts: 1,801 ✭✭

    Deuce78 wrote:
    Thing is pure! Curious how the shaft feels. Lots of flex with the graphite?




    It feels more flexible than the standard ski pole steel shaft but not to where it feels loose or out of control. I am waiting for a new jumbomax arm lock grip to come in to try. I have a winn flatso 17” on there now, but the jumbomax is a little heavier, so I will see how that works out.




    FWIW Bryson's shaft is WAY stiffer and heavier than steel shafts, so clearly way heavier than graphite. "Stiff as a board" to quote him.



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  • rusty380rusty380 Members Posts: 68
    could I convert an old studio design 1 blade style putter to armlock or is it just completely the wrong configuration?



    Its just my fun club
  • poppman2142poppman2142 Advanced Members Posts: 1,134 ✭✭
    rusty380 wrote:
    could I convert an old studio design 1 blade style putter to armlock or is it just completely the wrong configuration?



    Its just my fun club




    I don’t know why not, but I’m guessing you will want to head to be quite a bit heavier.
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  • MaineMarinerMaineMariner Advanced Members Posts: 263 ✭✭
    gunmetal wrote:



    Literally every time I putt with this thing I like it more and I feel more confident. I actually don't think I need to alter the putter at all - I figured out a grip and stance that works and is easy to replicate.



    Is it as comfortable as a regular putter? No, but the security blanket feeling of the arm lock more than makes up for it. A regular putter feels plain floppy and sloppy after using the arm lock.




    I think this is the key, and what causes many people to give up. You really have to alter your entire setup - ESPECIALLY if you weren't fit for it based off your previous putting posture. Someone was saying something about pulling every putt and I immediately thought to myself you're likely still utilizing much if not all of your previous putting posture.



    I don't like it because it really slows down play, but early on everyone who adopts the Arm Lock really should be putting a line on the ball and lining that line up with your intended line. Then you place the head directly behind the ball and lined up with your line on the ball with the putter perfectly soled. If this posture feels to awkward to get used to then you need to get fit to the point where it doesn't hurt or feel awkward. Bottom line is that putter head has to be in the correct position. Seems obvious but I think those who struggle are just tied to their previous posture too much and this causes a struggle to get the putter head positioned and lined up properly.



    IMO, of course. image/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />




    1000% agree with you. I posted earlier about how I wanted to put the club right back in the mail to Odyssey ten putts in. My problem was that I was just lining up to the putt like normal, pushing the putter forward, and just expecting it to work. You are dead spot on about soling the putter head first and THEN getting into your posture. That was one of the big keys for me.



    I also recently switched out the stock Odyssey arm lock grip for a Rosemark long grip and it is MUCH better. I think Odyssey did arm lock newbies a disservice by shipping with a kind of thin grip. The Rosemark isn't even THAT much chunkier but it's noticeably easier for me to make contact with my forearm. I don't feel like I need to forward press it quite as much. I'm sure that the new Superstroke that was just released would have the same effect.
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  • ArniesArmy1234ArniesArmy1234 Advanced Members Posts: 82 ✭✭
    I tried the Kutcher betti and a odyssey v line arm lock. Putted great inside messing around, but hated the feel once I hit the course. Went to the claw grip recently and found I really like it once I found the right grip that works for me
  • tgoodspe1991tgoodspe1991 Advanced Members Posts: 586 ✭✭
    I want to arm lock this season in an effort to change up my performance on the greens. I've always been interested in it, and now that it's converting some notable guys on Tour with positive results (even Furyk is doing it now) I really want to try it.



    Outside of Bryson, I feel like I see most guys going with a face balanced putter for an arm lock model. Is that the best to go with?



    I was thinking of making my own from a Toulon Palm Beach but I have yet to see a heel shafted model been given a go with arm lock style: https://www.odysseygolf.com/toulon-design/putters-2019-toulon-palm-beach-stroke-lab.html



    What do you guys think?
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  • I_HATE_SNOWI_HATE_SNOW Advanced Members Posts: 3,206 ✭✭
    Furyk's putter shaft seems extra long, I think it contacts his upper arm?
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