Naval Jelly to Raw a wedge

 kennethkyle ·  
kennethkylekennethkyle KennyKyleMembers  16WRX Points: 0Handicap: 6Posts: 16
Joined:  in WRX Club Techs #1
Sorry if this is in the wrong spot. I've got some SM6's, the Jet Black finish. I used them for a half season and they are showing some wear on the black. I wanted to strip that and make them a raw finish. I've heard Naval Jelly is a good way to go. Has anyone done this that has the process or tips for me? Any help is appreciated. Thank you.
Posted:
Tagged:
1

Comments

  • SAM_PGASAM_PGA PGA Professional Knoxville, TNMembers  699WRX Points: 172Posts: 699 Golden Tee
    Joined:  #2
    From what I've read Naval Jelly works... but you have to apply the product evenly and can lead to inconsistent results. Smells like a** too! For best results use CLR or distilled white vinegar. Put the wedges in a small bucket and fill with either product to completely cover the wedge. I've used vinegar, soak for 1-2 hours, rinse, scrub with the grain using a green scotch bright pad, and repeat. Also, after the soak, I've had good success using #3 steel wool and following with #00 steel wool. This gave my wedges a more homogenous look. Patience is virtue!!!
    Posted:



    TS3 9.5º - UST LinQ Purple 6X     TS3 16.5º - UST LinQ Purple 7X     818 H2 21º - Recoil Proto Hybrid 85F5
    T200 #4-5 (1º Weak) & T100 #6-9 - AMT Tour White S300 HS1


    SM8 Raw     46.10F   50.12F @ 51º   56.12D   60.08M @ 61º - AMT Tour White S400      

     
    Special Select Newport 2 - 34"


  • GolfWRXGolfWRX Warning Points: 0  11 Members Posts: 11 #ad
    Joined:  ...

    Advertisement
  • arbitragearbitrage Norwalk, CTMembers  857WRX Points: 56Handicap: 13Posts: 857 Bunkers
    Joined:  #3
    Get a liter of Coke and leave it overnight with the clubhead completely immersed. I do that to all my black finish wedges. They look amazing in the morning!
    Posted:
    [font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]Driver: Callaway Epic SubZero - 12.5 Deg - GD Tour AD MT - 6S [/font]
    [font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]5 Wood: Callaway Epic Subzero- 17 Deg - [/font][font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif] GD Tour AD MT - &S[/font]
    [font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]Hybrid: Callaway Epic - 20 & 23 deg - Recoil 780 F5
    Irons: Callaway Apex CF16 - 6i-SW - Recoil 110 F4
    Wedge:Fourteen RM-21 - 58/12 - Recoil 110 F4
    Putter: Taylormade Spider Tour Black #7 - 33"
    Ball: Taylormade TP-x
    Bag: Sun Mountain C-130 or Four5[/font]
  • Russ757Russ757 Chesapeake, VAMembers  7811WRX Points: 239Posts: 7,811 Titanium Tees
    Joined:  #4
    Posted:

    Driver: Ping G400 Max 9.5* Fubuki Alpha 70

    FW: Ping G400 16.5* Fubuki Ax 75

    Hybrid: Ping G400 19* Fubuki Ax 400

    DI: Srixon U65 22* Steelfiber 95

    Irons: Srixon 565/765 4-9 Steelfibers 110

    Wedges: Cleveland RTX 4 48*, 52*, 56*, 60* Steelfiber 125

  • Hot Rod 71Hot Rod 71 #TheWRX ClubWRX, BST Volunteer Mods  8975WRX Points: 329Handicap: lowPosts: 8,975 ClubWRX
    Joined:  #5
    I used CLR as mentioned above to take a set of black Vokey SM6 wedges down to raw. It worked very well.



    http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/topic/1435520-sm6-wedges/
    Posted:
    PING G400 LST 9* - Graphite Design Tour AD TP 6X
    Callaway Epic 15* - Diamana S+ 70X
    Titleist 718 T-MB 3 iron DG S300
    PXG 0311T 4-P - DGTI AMT S400
    Titleist SM7 50, 56, 60 - DGTI S400
    Scotty Cameron Studio Custom Newport 2
    Snell Black
  • SAM_PGASAM_PGA PGA Professional Knoxville, TNMembers  699WRX Points: 172Posts: 699 Golden Tee
    Joined:  #6
    I used my vinegar recommendation this afternoon on four brand new SM6 Raw Black wedges and the whole process took 2 hours from start to end. Here is my step by step process that I've found works best...



    1. Completely clean the wedge heads and wipe down with denatured alcohol to remove any residue

    2. In a bucket, place the wedge/wedges in side and fill to the ferrule with distilled white vinegar

    3. Start a timer for 1 hour

    4. After the first hour, remove the wedge from the vinegar and rinse under water, towel dry

    5. I'd recommend wear some shop or latex gloves for the next step... using a green Scotch-Brite pad scrub the wedge with the grain. This won't take long pretty quick process

    6. Wipe down again with alcohol to remove any residue

    7. Put back in the same vinegar for 1/2 hour

    8. Rinse under water again and towel dry

    9. Scotch-Brite scrub again and follow up with 00 steel wool (if you want but not necessary)

    10. Re-shine the ferrule with acetone and a cotton cloth



    The final product for me is very consistent throughout and is identical to the raw Vokeys that have been built for me by Aaron Dill on the PGA Tour Titleist Tour Truck. I've seen other raw wedge finishes but they had been tumbled to a dull shiny finish. Below is a pic of my 58M from today. As you can see all paint fill is PERFECTLY intact!

    Posted:



    TS3 9.5º - UST LinQ Purple 6X     TS3 16.5º - UST LinQ Purple 7X     818 H2 21º - Recoil Proto Hybrid 85F5
    T200 #4-5 (1º Weak) & T100 #6-9 - AMT Tour White S300 HS1


    SM8 Raw     46.10F   50.12F @ 51º   56.12D   60.08M @ 61º - AMT Tour White S400      

     
    Special Select Newport 2 - 34"


  • Hack DaddyHack Daddy Members  1110WRX Points: 340Posts: 1,110 Platinum Tees
    Joined:  edited Mar 11, 2017 #7
    Navel Jelly, white vinegar, secret sauce... means nothing. You are trying to remove a PVD coating.



    Get some masking tape, cover two or three inches of the bottom of the shaft and the ferrel. Take your wedge and $20 to your local machine, automotive, cnc, etc. shop and have them bead blast your head. That is the correct way to remove the PVD, and it won't look like you hit it with a wool pad, regardless of if you went with the grain. You can request different bead for different result. Glass, silica, etc.





    Edit: Blasting will also clean up some of the imperfections, as well. For instance, I took a beat-to-death Cleveland Classic 1, blasted, and cerekoted. Pretty much took out all the nicks and dings.



    Photo_2017-03-01_09-06-51_PM_zpsyrkg3niz.png
    Posted:
    Ping G400 9.5 Aldilla 2KXV Green Anniversary 65TX
    Adams Tight Lies Tour 3W 14.5 Aldilla 2KXV Green 75X
    Nike VR Pro Combo 2-PW Nippon Pro Modus 130X
    Nike VR 54/58 Nippon Pro Modus 130X
    Rife Two Bar Center Shaft
    TP5X
  • GolfWRXGolfWRX Warning Points: 0  11 Members Posts: 11 #ad
    Joined:  ...

    Advertisement
  • One_Putt_BlunderOne_Putt_Blunder Members  10835WRX Points: 259Posts: 10,835 Titanium Tees
    Joined:  #8
    Hack Daddy wrote:


    Navel Jelly, white vinegar, secret sauce... means nothing. You are trying to remove a PVD coating.



    Get some masking tape, cover two or three inches of the bottom of the shaft and the ferrel. Take your wedge and $20 to your local machine, automotive, cnc, etc. shop and have them bead blast your head. That is the correct way to remove the PVD, and it won't look like you hit it with a wool pad, regardless of if you went with the grain. You can request different bead for different result. Glass, silica, etc.





    Edit: Blasting will also clean up some of the imperfections, as well. For instance, I took a beat-to-death Cleveland Classic 1, blasted, and cerekoted. Pretty much took out all the nicks and dings.








    Uh you do realize the post above you shows wedges that came out great using easy to find items. I've raw'd out at least 6 different black ox or oil can Vokeys the only one that was a huge pita was the black ion tvd finish
    Posted:
    [twitter]oneputtblunder[/twitter]
    10.5 Aeroburner TP Fujikura Speeder Pro XLR8
    14.5 X2 Hot 3 Deep Tour Green
    18* X2 Hot Pro Hybrid
    RSI TP 4-PW KBS Tour 120
    Byron Morgan DH89 Rincon Neck deep mill or Circa 62 No 2
    Vokey 52/56/60 SM5/TVDK/TVDVgrind DG S300
    WITB Link
  • STPBMWSTPBMW Members  587WRX Points: 85Posts: 587 Golden Tee
    Joined:  #9
    I've tried everything. Fastest easiest method for me is to use toilet bowl cleaner. I just use The Works brand from the dollar store.



    Buy a thin narrow container at the dollar store and soak the heads for a minute. If doing this with the shafts on be careful not to submerge the ferrule.



    Be careful, use gloves etc. Stuff is powerful.
    Posted:
  • SAM_PGASAM_PGA PGA Professional Knoxville, TNMembers  699WRX Points: 172Posts: 699 Golden Tee
    Joined:  #10
    Hack Daddy wrote:


    Navel Jelly, white vinegar, secret sauce... means nothing. You are trying to remove a PVD coating.



    Get some masking tape, cover two or three inches of the bottom of the shaft and the ferrel. Take your wedge and $20 to your local machine, automotive, cnc, etc. shop and have them bead blast your head. That is the correct way to remove the PVD, and it won't look like you hit it with a wool pad, regardless of if you went with the grain. You can request different bead for different result. Glass, silica, etc.





    Edit: Blasting will also clean up some of the imperfections, as well. For instance, I took a beat-to-death Cleveland Classic 1, blasted, and cerekoted. Pretty much took out all the nicks and dings.



    Photo_2017-03-01_09-06-51_PM_zpsyrkg3niz.png




    FYI... the finish on the SM6 Raw Black wedges is a QPQ, quench/polish/quench. The SM5 Jet was also a QPQ but a deeper Black which resulted in a darker rawer look. Our processes to remove the black color works great and give the results that raw wedge users are looking for and will rust over time. Bead or sand blasting the heads will just result in a lighter finish, remove all paint fill, and potentially rust faster... not to mention more expensive for the extra process and having to repaint if desired.
    Posted:



    TS3 9.5º - UST LinQ Purple 6X     TS3 16.5º - UST LinQ Purple 7X     818 H2 21º - Recoil Proto Hybrid 85F5
    T200 #4-5 (1º Weak) & T100 #6-9 - AMT Tour White S300 HS1


    SM8 Raw     46.10F   50.12F @ 51º   56.12D   60.08M @ 61º - AMT Tour White S400      

     
    Special Select Newport 2 - 34"


  • SAM_PGASAM_PGA PGA Professional Knoxville, TNMembers  699WRX Points: 172Posts: 699 Golden Tee
    Joined:  edited Mar 16, 2017 #11
    Updated pics of my finished project... Vokey SM6 Raw Black with the Vinegar Works! ZERO paint loss and the exact RAW finish I was looking for. Just used a green ScotchBrite pad after a 1 hour soak in vinegar (twice)



    Posted:



    TS3 9.5º - UST LinQ Purple 6X     TS3 16.5º - UST LinQ Purple 7X     818 H2 21º - Recoil Proto Hybrid 85F5
    T200 #4-5 (1º Weak) & T100 #6-9 - AMT Tour White S300 HS1


    SM8 Raw     46.10F   50.12F @ 51º   56.12D   60.08M @ 61º - AMT Tour White S400      

     
    Special Select Newport 2 - 34"


  • wcbjrwcbjr Members  2926WRX Points: 180Handicap: 1.2Posts: 2,926 Titanium Tees
    Joined:  #12
    Those are very well done, nice.
    Posted:
  • GolfWRXGolfWRX Warning Points: 0  11 Members Posts: 11 #ad
    Joined:  ...

    Advertisement
  • Hot Rod 71Hot Rod 71 #TheWRX ClubWRX, BST Volunteer Mods  8975WRX Points: 329Handicap: lowPosts: 8,975 ClubWRX
    Joined:  #13
    Nice work, Sam
    Posted:
    PING G400 LST 9* - Graphite Design Tour AD TP 6X
    Callaway Epic 15* - Diamana S+ 70X
    Titleist 718 T-MB 3 iron DG S300
    PXG 0311T 4-P - DGTI AMT S400
    Titleist SM7 50, 56, 60 - DGTI S400
    Scotty Cameron Studio Custom Newport 2
    Snell Black
  • jaworskijaworski penturner Members  381WRX Points: 69Handicap: 15Posts: 381 Greens
    Joined:  #14
    Very informative. Thanks for posting this . As with everything, we have choices so this let's us make up our own minds as which avenue to follow.



    I like the vinegar soak process myself and the results it produced.
    Posted:
    [font=Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif, EmojiFont,]The Bitterness of Poor Quality Remains Long after the Sweetness of Low Prices is Forgotten.[/font]
  • The GeneralThe General Members  1777WRX Points: 167Handicap: 2Posts: 1,777 Platinum Tees
    Joined:  #15
    Sammy that looks amazing. That gray dull look is as good as it gets.
    Posted:
  • jasonp87jasonp87 Members  2142WRX Points: 98Posts: 2,142 Platinum Tees
    Joined:  #16
    Yah I used vinegar on my RTX 3s. Worked like a charm to remove the Tour raw finish.



    They're rusting up quite nicely now.



    Only took about 20min to get finish off. I just green frog Taper the ferrule and submerged head into vinegar
    Posted:
    Driver
    TM M6 (9) Fujikura Pro 2.0 TS 6X 45"
    3W
    TM M3 (16) Fujikura Atmos Red Tour Spec 7X 43.25"
    5W
    TM M3 (19) Fujikura Atmos Red Tour Spec 7X 42.25"
    3i
    TM TP UDI (20.5) Dynamic Gold X100
    Irons
    Mizuno MP4 (4-PW) Modus 3 125X
    Wedges---TM Milled Grind Modus 3 125X (48) & TM Hi-Toe (54)(60) Modus 3 125 Wedge
    Putter
    TM Spider Tour Black (DJ) 34" SS Pistol GTR
  • jll62jll62 MinneapolisClubWRX  2382WRX Points: 630Handicap: +2.2Posts: 2,382 ClubWRX
    Joined:  #17
    I just did five of them within the last month using naval jelly and fine steel wool to remove the black finish, followed by 400 grit sandpaper to give them the right look. Start to finish for each wedge when using naval jelly is around 30 minutes, which is why I prefer that over other techniques.



    Now swapping out the paint fill is another story...



    Posted:
    TaylorMade M5 8.0, Diamana Kai'li 60S, 44.75"
    TaylorMade M5 Rocket 3, Tensei Blue X, 42.5"
    TaylorMade SIM Max Rescue 19, Fujikura Atmos Blue Tour Spec 8X Hybrid
    TaylorMade P790 3, Nippon Modus 130 stiff
    TaylorMade P750 4-6, Nippon Modus 130 stiff
    TaylorMade P7TW 7-PW, Nippon Modus 130 stiff
    TaylorMade MG2 52, DG S400 Tour Issue
    TaylorMade Hi-Toe 58, DG S400 Tour Issue
    TaylorMade Itsy Bitsy JDay Proto, 34"
    TaylorMade TP5

    jll62's WITB
  • GolfWRXGolfWRX Warning Points: 0  11 Members Posts: 11 #ad
    Joined:  ...

    Advertisement
  • NessismNessism To measure is to know... Members  19518WRX Points: 1,590Posts: 19,518 Titanium Tees
    Joined:  #18
    Kleenstrip Etch and Prep from Home Depot will take off the black finish faster than vinegar and it's way safer than using that toilet bowl cleaner stuff which is really nasty stuff.
    Posted:
    Ping G400 Max driver w/Aldila Rogue 125 Silver 60S
    Cobra (Lexi blue) F7 5 wood w/Aldila Rogue Black 70S
    Cobra (Lexi blue) F7 Hybrid w/Aldila Kuro Kage 80S
    Ping G410 irons w/Recoil 95S
    Ping Glide 55/60 wedges w/Recoil 110S
    Ping Anser/Arna putter - the "real deal!"
  • LazyLightning22LazyLightning22 Members  320WRX Points: 88Posts: 320 Greens
    Joined:  #19
    Just to bump this, is there any way to do this with the standard chrome wedges? I feel like the chrome wedges are tougher to deal with but admittedly don't really know.
    Posted:
    Ping G400 LST 10*- Project X Even Flow Black 65 6.5
    Titleist 909 F3 15*- Diamana Blue Board S
    Titleist 909H 19*- Aldila Voodoo S
    Mizuno Yoro MP 68 4-PW- KBS C-Taper R+
    Cleveland RTX3 RAW 50* 54* 58*
    Cameron Newport 1.5
  • NessismNessism To measure is to know... Members  19518WRX Points: 1,590Posts: 19,518 Titanium Tees
    Joined:  #20
    No
    Posted:
    Ping G400 Max driver w/Aldila Rogue 125 Silver 60S
    Cobra (Lexi blue) F7 5 wood w/Aldila Rogue Black 70S
    Cobra (Lexi blue) F7 Hybrid w/Aldila Kuro Kage 80S
    Ping G410 irons w/Recoil 95S
    Ping Glide 55/60 wedges w/Recoil 110S
    Ping Anser/Arna putter - the "real deal!"
  • Boiler0007Boiler0007 Members  284WRX Points: 49Posts: 284 Greens
    Joined:  #21
    Nope. Needs to be raw
    Posted:
  • donasduxdonasdux Serious Hack Members  81WRX Points: 1Handicap: 19Posts: 81 Bunkers
    Joined:  #22
    Why not just buy them like that? I have black sm5's and would never dream of doing that to them. I mean they look nice and but why buy black wedges and then strip off the black? Just doesn't make sense to me, thats all.
    Posted:
    WITB:

    Ping G400 SFT 10* stiff
    TaylorMade M2 5w stiff

    Cobra 4H

    Ping "G" 4-PW

    Cleveland CG15 52* Black finish

    Vokey SM5 56* & 60* black finish

    Scotty Newport 2 Custom from The Golf Garage
    Lamkin Tour Wrap, midsize
  • GolfWRXGolfWRX Warning Points: 0  11 Members Posts: 11 #ad
    Joined:  ...

    Advertisement
  • fillwelixfillwelix Boston AreaMembers  1520WRX Points: 372Posts: 1,520 Platinum Tees
    Joined:  #23
    Any tips on if this works for chrome finish? What would work best for the chrome finish to make them raw?
    Posted:
    WITB
    Taylormade SIM 9.5* Ventus Black 6X
    Taylormade SIM 15* Graphite Design AD-DI 7X
    Taylormade SIM 19* Graphite Design AD-DI 7X
    Taylormade P760 4-PW Modus 3 Tour 120 S
    Taylormade MG 52 KBS Tour-V 130 S
    Taylormade Hi-Toe 58 & 64 KBS Hi Rev Wedge
    Taylormade Spider X Tour
  • tdk8180tdk8180 Parts UnknownBanned  2446WRX Points: 142Handicap: 3Posts: 2,446 Platinum Tees
    Joined:  #24
    fillwelix wrote:


    Any tips on if this works for chrome finish? What would work best for the chrome finish to make them raw?




    You have to strip the chrome before you can do any of things you are reading above
    Posted:
  • fillwelixfillwelix Boston AreaMembers  1520WRX Points: 372Posts: 1,520 Platinum Tees
    Joined:  #25
    tdk8180 wrote:

    fillwelix wrote:


    Any tips on if this works for chrome finish? What would work best for the chrome finish to make them raw?




    You have to strip the chrome before you can do any of things you are reading above




    Yeah I figured as much. Any tips on doing that at home or is that not doable?
    Posted:
    WITB
    Taylormade SIM 9.5* Ventus Black 6X
    Taylormade SIM 15* Graphite Design AD-DI 7X
    Taylormade SIM 19* Graphite Design AD-DI 7X
    Taylormade P760 4-PW Modus 3 Tour 120 S
    Taylormade MG 52 KBS Tour-V 130 S
    Taylormade Hi-Toe 58 & 64 KBS Hi Rev Wedge
    Taylormade Spider X Tour
  • tdk8180tdk8180 Parts UnknownBanned  2446WRX Points: 142Handicap: 3Posts: 2,446 Platinum Tees
    Joined:  #26
    I dont recommend doing this at home unless ur home is a factory
    Posted:
  • Need4spdNeed4spd Members  1611WRX Points: 211Posts: 1,611 Platinum Tees
    Joined:  #27
    donasdux wrote:


    Why not just buy them like that? I have black sm5's and would never dream of doing that to them. I mean they look nice and but why buy black wedges and then strip off the black? Just doesn't make sense to me, thats all.




    Because it’s easy, economic, and a lot less hassle than custom ordering a wedge from someone like Vokey with a raw finish.
    Posted:
    In the Hoofer

    TaylorMade M5 10.5° Mitsubishi Tensei CK Pro Blue 60 S
    TaylorMade M2 15° Aldila Rogue Silver 110 M.S.I. 70-S  
    TaylorMade RSi TP UDI #2 Graphite Design Tour AD IZ-95 S  
    Mizuno MP-20 MMC 4-PW KBS Tour $-Taper 120 S
    Titleist Vokey SM7 50.12F, 54.08M, 58.08M KBS Tour 120 S
    Titleist Scotty Cameron Studio Select Newport 2
    Titleist ProV1X
  • GolfWRXGolfWRX Warning Points: 0  11 Members Posts: 11 #ad
    Joined:  ...

    Advertisement
  • fillwelixfillwelix Boston AreaMembers  1520WRX Points: 372Posts: 1,520 Platinum Tees
    Joined:  #28
    tdk8180 wrote:


    I dont recommend doing this at home unless ur home is a factory




    Good to know, thanks!
    Posted:
    WITB
    Taylormade SIM 9.5* Ventus Black 6X
    Taylormade SIM 15* Graphite Design AD-DI 7X
    Taylormade SIM 19* Graphite Design AD-DI 7X
    Taylormade P760 4-PW Modus 3 Tour 120 S
    Taylormade MG 52 KBS Tour-V 130 S
    Taylormade Hi-Toe 58 & 64 KBS Hi Rev Wedge
    Taylormade Spider X Tour

Leave a Comment

Rich Text Editor. To edit a paragraph's style, hit tab to get to the paragraph menu. From there you will be able to pick one style. Nothing defaults to paragraph. An inline formatting menu will show up when you select text. Hit tab to get into that menu. Some elements, such as rich link embeds, images, loading indicators, and error messages may get inserted into the editor. You may navigate to these using the arrow keys inside of the editor and delete them with the delete or backspace key.