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Played the Callaway iX today--Now With Final Verdict!

GolfdogGolfdog Members Posts: 701
edited March 2008 in Golf Balls
Also tried the TaylorMade TP Black
I got a chance to try out the new Callaway iX today. I have played the Cally HX Tour the past two years. The HX Tour has performed very well for me: long off the tee, great around the greens. I have checked out new balls from time to time, but nothing has worked as well. (FYI, my index is 0.9, and my driver SS is in the low 100s.)



Today I put the Cally iX into play. It is easy to sum up this balls characteristics: I couldn't tell it apart from the HX Tour. Perhaps if I played this ball for a month or two in various conditions, I might be able to see some differences between the iX and the HX Tour, but IMO they are basically the same ball.



Another ball I have tried recently is the Bridgestone B330s. This recommendation came from golfballselector.com. It is a really good ball for me--as long as the HX Tour, but a little softer feeling off the irons and more spinney into the greens. Actually, the B330s spins too much for me. I was pulling wedge shots off the front of greens, and my short pitch shots were checking too much.



Which brings me to the TaylorMade TP Black. This was another recommendation from golfballselector.com. I was VERY impressed with this ball. It was long off every club--I was getting my "normal" distances despite the 48ºF temps, and the spin was perfect. I played the TP Black for a couple holes and didn't want to play the other balls any more. These are definitely my ball of choice now (and I hate TM stuff!).



It looks like the TP Blacks are now firmly in the bag.
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  • SamsquanchSamsquanch Lefty Boomers Posts: 1,563 ✭✭
    Thanks for the review. I just bought a dozen Tour ix today, can't wait to try them in the next few weeks image/biggrin.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />
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  • jimbonecrusherjimbonecrusher Skydiving - It is like explaining sex to virgins Lacey, WAAdvanced Members Posts: 996 ✭✭
    Which TP Black. The '07 model or the LDP?
  • GolfdogGolfdog Members Posts: 701
    jimbonecrusher wrote on Feb 28 2008, 08:18 PM:
    Which TP Black. The '07 model or the LDP?




    This is the new model--the LDP.
  • lologolflologolf Advanced Members Posts: 490
    thanks for the review GD, I picked a dz. of the ix and hot bite to try, the only other ball I want to try are the TM blacks. once the weather cooperates.
  • jones137jones137 Advanced Members Posts: 2,596
    Golfdog wrote on Feb 28 2008, 09:48 PM:
    jimbonecrusher wrote on Feb 28 2008, 08:18 PM:
    Which TP Black. The '07 model or the LDP?




    This is the new model--the LDP.




    Try the Reds also. They are a more direct comparison to the HX Tour while the Blacks are more like the HX Tour 56. Both are outstanding golf balls.
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  • The near universal acclaim tells the story with the TP Blacks. Great ball, for a lot of different types of players.
  • robp11robp11 Advanced Members Posts: 81 ✭✭
    I thought it was the other way around--I thought the TP Black was more comparable to the HX Tour.
  • JohnnyNight JohnnyNight Advanced Members Posts: 640 ✭✭
    Golfdog



    Show the love for TM..!!



    They give you the yardage
  • multimulti Advanced Members Posts: 114
    robp11 wrote on Feb 28 2008, 08:49 PM:
    I thought it was the other way around--I thought the TP Black was more comparable to the HX Tour.




    I think you're right. I remember the colors are opposite of Titleist - Red number similar to V1 (and HX56), and Black to V1x (HX). Don't know why they did that, makes it pretty confusing!
  • sidewindersidewinder Advanced Members Posts: 1,260
    The TP Red is like Pro V1x which is like the HX Tour which is like the One Black which is like the B330.



    The TP Black is like Pro V1 which is like the HX Tour 56 which is like the One Platinum which is like the B330-s.



    Scott
  • MudweaselMudweasel Members Posts: 23 ✭✭
    sidewinder wrote on Feb 29 2008, 07:52 AM:
    The TP Red is like Pro V1x which is like the HX Tour which is like the One Black which is like the B330.



    The TP Black is like Pro V1 which is like the HX Tour 56 which is like the One Platinum which is like the B330-s.



    Scott


    Apart from the fact that the Red is softer than the Black...
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  • multimulti Advanced Members Posts: 114
    Mudweasel wrote on Feb 29 2008, 12:34 AM:
    sidewinder wrote on Feb 29 2008, 07:52 AM:
    The TP Red is like Pro V1x which is like the HX Tour which is like the One Black which is like the B330.



    The TP Black is like Pro V1 which is like the HX Tour 56 which is like the One Platinum which is like the B330-s.



    Scott


    Apart from the fact that the Red is softer than the Black...




    This is the confusion I was talking about. According to the PR report, the Red is low launch, the Black is high launch. I'm gonna assume that they designed the ball like the other balls on the market, which is low launch/high spin, high launch/low spin. And I know the Red was the more or less the V1 equivalent at initial release, check this review: http://thesandtrap.com/equipment/balls/tay...ack_ball_review



    Unless they flipped it around since people got confused for this year, I'm pretty sure the Red is still like the V1/HX Tour 56/i, One Platinum, and B330-S. And the Black is still like the V1x/HX Tour/iX, One Black, and B330.
  • jones137jones137 Advanced Members Posts: 2,596
    multi wrote on Feb 29 2008, 05:43 AM:
    Mudweasel wrote on Feb 29 2008, 12:34 AM:
    sidewinder wrote on Feb 29 2008, 07:52 AM:
    The TP Red is like Pro V1x which is like the HX Tour which is like the One Black which is like the B330.



    The TP Black is like Pro V1 which is like the HX Tour 56 which is like the One Platinum which is like the B330-s.



    Scott


    Apart from the fact that the Red is softer than the Black...




    This is the confusion I was talking about. According to the PR report, the Red is low launch, the Black is high launch. I'm gonna assume that they designed the ball like the other balls on the market, which is low launch/high spin, high launch/low spin. And I know the Red was the more or less the V1 equivalent at initial release, check this review: http://thesandtrap.com/equipment/balls/tay...ack_ball_review



    Unless they flipped it around since people got confused for this year, I'm pretty sure the Red is still like the V1/HX Tour 56/i, One Platinum, and B330-S. And the Black is still like the V1x/HX Tour/iX, One Black, and B330.




    They flipped it this year. Very confusing. You're right about last year's TP's, but this year's TP LDP's are the opposite. Just like Sidewinder noted. Kinda crazy and it has caused alot of confusion.
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  • littlepingmanlittlepingman Advanced Members Posts: 7,535
    jones137 wrote on Feb 29 2008, 08:07 AM:
    They flipped it this year. Very confusing. You're right about last year's TP's, but this year's TP LDP's are the opposite. Just like Sidewinder noted. Kinda crazy and it has caused alot of confusion.




    Thats how I understand it as well. The Red and Black ball line 'flip-flopped' this year.
  • MizgoodieMizgoodie golf happy! golf good! Members Posts: 1,900
    I love the way the new tp blacks putt.
  • jimbonecrusherjimbonecrusher Skydiving - It is like explaining sex to virgins Lacey, WAAdvanced Members Posts: 996 ✭✭
    Golfdog wrote on Feb 28 2008, 09:48 PM:
    jimbonecrusher wrote on Feb 28 2008, 08:18 PM:
    Which TP Black. The '07 model or the LDP?




    This is the new model--the LDP.




    I agree. The new LDP TP Black is the ball for me in 2008. I have played it head to head against the Pro V1x, but I like the TP Black better. Just seems like it doesn't really get touched by the wind, so there might be something to this LDP stuff.
  • GolfdogGolfdog Members Posts: 701
    It is confusing as heck. I got it wrong. The black is the higher launch/higher spin version, and the red is lower launch/lower spin. You can see the comparison on the TM web site under balls->tp black (or red)->technology.



    The thing I really liked was I was actually getting some roll on my drives. I think I was getting a shallower angle of descent, which can add quite a bit of distance to your drives.
  • GoldenhawkGoldenhawk Advanced Members Posts: 3,241
    lologolf wrote on Feb 28 2008, 09:52 PM:
    thanks for the review GD, I picked a dz. of the ix and hot bite to try, the only other ball I want to try are the TM blacks. once the weather cooperates.




    I love the iX ball. The Hot Bite scuffs too easily. Especially if your using CG 12, CG 14 or Spin Milled wedges.
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    I have only chipped, pitched and putted with the Dark Side TP Black, but I love it's feel and control with those shots. This ball matched with a Rife putter (I have a Martinique and a Barbados) produces the feel that I've missed ever since my original Kevin Burns 9303 met the original Maxfli Revolution.



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  • multimulti Advanced Members Posts: 114
    Golfdog wrote on Feb 29 2008, 05:20 AM:
    It is confusing as heck. I got it wrong. The black is the higher launch/higher spin version, and the red is lower launch/lower spin. You can see the comparison on the TM web site under balls->tp black (or red)->technology.



    The thing I really liked was I was actually getting some roll on my drives. I think I was getting a shallower angle of descent, which can add quite a bit of distance to your drives.




    Wow, alright, I didn't think they'd make high/high low/low but I guess I'm wrong. Should be pretty unique then.
  • sidewindersidewinder Advanced Members Posts: 1,260
    multi wrote on Feb 29 2008, 10:04 AM:
    Golfdog wrote on Feb 29 2008, 05:20 AM:
    It is confusing as heck. I got it wrong. The black is the higher launch/higher spin version, and the red is lower launch/lower spin. You can see the comparison on the TM web site under balls->tp black (or red)->technology.



    The thing I really liked was I was actually getting some roll on my drives. I think I was getting a shallower angle of descent, which can add quite a bit of distance to your drives.




    Wow, alright, I didn't think they'd make high/high low/low but I guess I'm wrong. Should be pretty unique then.


    multi,



    I don't know about past years, but this year the higher spinning tour balls also provide higher ball flight....which makes sense. The TP Red, One Black, and Pro V1x all have lower ball flights than the TP Black, One Platinum, and Pro V1.



    Scott
  • ChiGolfChiGolf Advanced Members Posts: 476
    Does anyone know firsthand how resilient the ix ball is compared to the Tour or Tour56 model.

    My S58's used to cutup the Tour/Tour56 so easily it was annoying. But I liked the performance of those two around the greens.



    My buddy has been trying to get me to try out those bridgestone's or the Srixon's for awhile. But I haven't used up my stash of Callaway Tour's yet.
  • multimulti Advanced Members Posts: 114
    edited February 2008
    sidewinder wrote on Feb 29 2008, 10:26 AM:
    multi,



    I don't know about past years, but this year the higher spinning tour balls also provide higher ball flight....which makes sense. The TP Red, One Black, and Pro V1x all have lower ball flights than the TP Black, One Platinum, and Pro V1.



    Scott




    Really? Sorry, ever since I played mid-priced balls in the beginning they were high launch, low spin balls so I assumed other balls would follow the same logic. I mean I know which ball spins more but never thought about confirming launch. image/russian_roulette.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />


    ChiGolf wrote on Feb 29 2008, 10:57 AM:
    Does anyone know firsthand how resilient the ix ball is compared to the Tour or Tour56 model.

    My S58's used to cutup the Tour/Tour56 so easily it was annoying. But I liked the performance of those two around the greens.



    My buddy has been trying to get me to try out those bridgestone's or the Srixon's for awhile. But I haven't used up my stash of Callaway Tour's yet.




    Joe Kwok had a review, it's looking pretty durable.



    http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=140921



    btw, he mentions that the i is high spin low flight and the iX is low spin and high flight? I'm still confused now sidewinder.
  • GiantbearGiantbear Advanced Members Posts: 356
    this is the description on TGW
    TP Black Golf Balls:

    Three-piece construction golf ball

    Designed for lower spin players who want soft feel, fast ball speed, increased distance and tour-caliber spin

    Promotes a mid-to-high flight

    Engineered to promote especially high speed and distance off the driver; to deliver higher full-shot and greenside spin; and to be exceptionally resistant to the effects of head winds and crosswinds





    TP Red Golf Balls:

    Four-piece construction golf ball

    Designed for higher spin players who want the ultimate in tour performance

    Feel Mantle, delivers 15% softer feel than the original TP Red, while also enhancing spin control

    Promotes a mid-to-low flight

    Engineered to promote especially high speed and distance off the driver; to deliver controllable full-shot and greenside spin; and to be exceptionally resistant to the effects of head winds and crosswinds
  • VolgolferVolgolfer Advanced Members Posts: 471
    Just to beat the horse a bit more, TP Black is for players needing higher spin to keep the ball in the air (ie, for those of us that need spin for lift and thus distance..."air time"). Conversely, the TP Red is for all you big hitters that balloon the ball with too much spin.



    TM also states that the TP Black is a softer durometer cover than the TP Red, but the Red has a softer "feel." You figure that one out.



    I've played the Black and have found it to be a marvelous ball with lots of green-side spin. It does tend to scuff a bit, but only towards the end of the round.



    Lastly, it's every bit as good a ball as the ProV's or Callaway's and at $39.99 it's still a reasonable price for a "professional" ball.



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  • TheHomezTheHomez Advanced Members Posts: 491
    Golfdog wrote on Feb 28 2008, 08:12 PM:
    I got a chance to try out the new Callaway iX today. I have played the Cally HX Tour the past two years. The HX Tour has performed very well for me: long off the tee, great around the greens. I have checked out new balls from time to time, but nothing has worked as well. (FYI, my index is 0.9, and my driver SS is in the low 100s.)



    Today I put the Cally iX into play. It is easy to sum up this balls characteristics: I couldn't tell it apart from the HX Tour. Perhaps if I played this ball for a month or two in various conditions, I might be able to see some differences between the iX and the HX Tour, but IMO they are basically the same ball.



    Another ball I have tried recently is the Bridgestone B330s. This recommendation came from golfballselector.com. It is a really good ball for me--as long as the HX Tour, but a little softer feeling off the irons and more spinney into the greens. Actually, the B330s spins too much for me. I was pulling wedge shots off the front of greens, and my short pitch shots were checking too much.



    Which brings me to the TaylorMade TP Black. This was another recommendation from golfballselector.com. I was VERY impressed with this ball. It was long off every club--I was getting my "normal" distances despite the 48ºF temps, and the spin was perfect. I played the TP Black for a couple holes and didn't want to play the other balls any more. These are definitely my ball of choice now (and I hate TM stuff!).



    It looks like the TP Blacks are now firmly in the bag.




    Good review, thanks for the post!



    And it sounds like golfballselector.com seemed to have worked for you. Do you recommend it? I've been debating whether or not to go ahead and give it a shot. And how did they recommend you the '08 TP Black LDP? I thought their '08 ball recommendations weren't complete yet...
  • GolfdogGolfdog Members Posts: 701
    Well I've had a few more outings to try the Cally iX, and the final verdict is--disappointing! I have been playing it side by side with the HX Tour, and for me the HX Tour is actually a better ball. The HX Tour is longer on solid hits, longer on off-center hits and holds the greens as well as the iX. I am disappointed, but the silver lining is that I discovered the TP Black.



    I should say that there are a lot of great balls out there, and what doesn't work for one of us my be a super ball for someone else. I think Cally changed the iX just enough to no longer be in my sweet spot.



    Man, I don't like TaylorMade at all, but it looks like I'm going to be playing their ball.
  • BigLeftyinAZBigLeftyinAZ Lefty Boomers Posts: 2,484
    sidewinder wrote on Feb 29 2008, 12:52 AM:
    The TP Red is like Pro V1x which is like the HX Tour which is like the One Black which is like the B330.



    The TP Black is like Pro V1 which is like the HX Tour 56 which is like the One Platinum which is like the B330-s.



    Scott




    What a minute..Isnt the prov1x more like the b330S???Both are softer and more spin,no?
  • sidewindersidewinder Advanced Members Posts: 1,260
    CLNCONCPTS wrote on Mar 3 2008, 01:17 PM:
    sidewinder wrote on Feb 29 2008, 12:52 AM:
    The TP Red is like Pro V1x which is like the HX Tour which is like the One Black which is like the B330.



    The TP Black is like Pro V1 which is like the HX Tour 56 which is like the One Platinum which is like the B330-s.



    Scott




    What a minute..Isnt the prov1x more like the b330S???Both are softer and more spin,no?


    No....



    Scott
  • GolfdogGolfdog Members Posts: 701
    Actually the current Pro V1x is one of the spinnier balls out there. It shows much more spin than the Pro V1 according to several reports I've read lately.
  • markheardjrmarkheardjr Member 141..Oh yeah...Snap to youngin! Advanced Members Posts: 7,282 ✭✭
    I played the Tour ix on Saturday. Hit several full shots with a Callaway Tour-X MD grind wedge. Had a few scratches, hit the cart path twice off a driver. still minor scuffing. Played all 18 holes with the single ball. Shot my second best round ever on that particular course. The Tour ix ball definetly has good bite. Same if not more than the ProV1X I played on 3 holes for comparison.



    I found teh Tour ix ball went further on the drives, but came up shorter in the irons. I assume that to be caused from the spin rates. I will definetly be continuing the experiment. May switch from the Pro V1x to this.
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    sidewinder wrote on Mar 3 2008, 02:19 PM:
    CLNCONCPTS wrote on Mar 3 2008, 01:17 PM:
    sidewinder wrote on Feb 29 2008, 12:52 AM:
    The TP Red is like Pro V1x which is like the HX Tour which is like the One Black which is like the B330.



    The TP Black is like Pro V1 which is like the HX Tour 56 which is like the One Platinum which is like the B330-s.



    Scott




    What a minute..Isnt the prov1x more like the b330S???Both are softer and more spin,no?


    No....



    Scott




    I disagree .Just went to the site.You be the judge.



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  • sidewindersidewinder Advanced Members Posts: 1,260
    Guys,



    The Pro V1x is the distance ball and has a harder feel. The Pro V1 is the spin ball with softer feel.....



    Scott
  • BigLeftyinAZBigLeftyinAZ Lefty Boomers Posts: 2,484
    sidewinder wrote on Mar 3 2008, 02:45 PM:
    Guys,



    The Pro V1x is the distance ball and has a harder feel. The Pro V1 is the spin ball with softer feel.....



    Scott




    Honestly,Its way too **** confusing for me.I'll stick with my ball of choice.



    But, they claim- New, softer Urethane Elastomer cover - higher spin with irons for improved workability.Doesnt this mean more spin?
  • sidewindersidewinder Advanced Members Posts: 1,260
    CLNCONCPTS wrote on Mar 3 2008, 01:50 PM:
    sidewinder wrote on Mar 3 2008, 02:45 PM:
    Guys,



    The Pro V1x is the distance ball and has a harder feel. The Pro V1 is the spin ball with softer feel.....



    Scott




    Honestly,Its way too **** confusing for me.I'll stick with my ball of choice.



    But, they claim- New, softer Urethane Elastomer cover - higher spin with irons for improved workability.Doesnt this mean more spin?


    Compared to last year's Pro V1x, yes.....



    Scott
  • GolfdogGolfdog Members Posts: 701
    sidewinder wrote on Mar 3 2008, 04:45 PM:
    Guys,



    The Pro V1x is the distance ball and has a harder feel. The Pro V1 is the spin ball with softer feel.....



    Scott




    Go to the Golf Magazine ball test and check out the spin rates for the x and regular Pro Vs. You will be surprised.
  • sidewindersidewinder Advanced Members Posts: 1,260
    Golfdog wrote on Mar 3 2008, 02:29 PM:
    sidewinder wrote on Mar 3 2008, 04:45 PM:
    Guys,



    The Pro V1x is the distance ball and has a harder feel. The Pro V1 is the spin ball with softer feel.....



    Scott




    Go to the Golf Magazine ball test and check out the spin rates for the x and regular Pro Vs. You will be surprised.


    I read the ball test article. Do you believe everything you read in a golf magazine?



    Scott
  • GolfdogGolfdog Members Posts: 701
    sidewinder wrote on Mar 3 2008, 05:59 PM:
    Golfdog wrote on Mar 3 2008, 02:29 PM:
    sidewinder wrote on Mar 3 2008, 04:45 PM:
    Guys,



    The Pro V1x is the distance ball and has a harder feel. The Pro V1 is the spin ball with softer feel.....



    Scott




    Go to the Golf Magazine ball test and check out the spin rates for the x and regular Pro Vs. You will be surprised.


    I read the ball test article. Do you believe everything you read in a golf magazine?



    Scott




    Well if I have to choose between some guy on the Internet or a magazine that has farmed out the research to a reputable company, then I'm going with the magazine.
  • sidewindersidewinder Advanced Members Posts: 1,260
    Golfdog wrote on Mar 3 2008, 04:23 PM:
    sidewinder wrote on Mar 3 2008, 05:59 PM:
    Golfdog wrote on Mar 3 2008, 02:29 PM:
    sidewinder wrote on Mar 3 2008, 04:45 PM:
    Guys,



    The Pro V1x is the distance ball and has a harder feel. The Pro V1 is the spin ball with softer feel.....



    Scott




    Go to the Golf Magazine ball test and check out the spin rates for the x and regular Pro Vs. You will be surprised.


    I read the ball test article. Do you believe everything you read in a golf magazine?



    Scott




    Well if I have to choose between some guy on the Internet or a magazine that has farmed out the research to a reputable company, then I'm going with the magazine.


    All you Pro V1 players that are going to switch to the Pro V1x this year to get more green side spin, post here and let us know that....



    Look, I have hit both new balls and the new Pro V1x does offer more green-side spin than last year. But the new Pro V1x does not offer as much green-side spin as the new Pro V1. And the new Pro V1 is certainly softer feeling than the new Pro V1x. I would choose the Pro V1x because it does not spin as much off the driver and I still generate too much side spin.



    The Pro V1 has been the green-side spin ball forever....why would they change that now?



    Scott
  • G-BoneG-Bone Better than most... Members Posts: 2,661 ✭✭
    edited March 2008
    sidewinder wrote on Mar 3 2008, 05:59 PM:
    Golfdog wrote on Mar 3 2008, 02:29 PM:
    sidewinder wrote on Mar 3 2008, 04:45 PM:
    Guys,



    The Pro V1x is the distance ball and has a harder feel. The Pro V1 is the spin ball with softer feel.....



    Scott




    Go to the Golf Magazine ball test and check out the spin rates for the x and regular Pro Vs. You will be surprised.


    I read the ball test article. Do you believe everything you read in a golf magazine?



    Scott




    I spent half of last year trying to convince my golf pro that the V1x had more spin on short irons than the V1, he laughed at me more than once! Finally he tried a side by side comparison an to his shock agreed 100%! Perhaps it used to be the other way around, but now the V1x spins more off short irons, but still spins less off the driver.



    I found this out by accident, I spin the ball a lot, therefore never even tried the V1. Got a dozen for free so I put them in play and was shocked to find that I DID NOT spin the V1 back near as much as I do the V1x.... I was shocked.



    Then the article came out and half of the guys at my club stopped laughing at my "crazy" claim and started to test the difference themselves....
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  • sidewindersidewinder Advanced Members Posts: 1,260
    Titleist has a new marketing campaign for the new Pro V1:



    "Shorter off the tee and spins less around the green: you really should buy the Pro V1x instead!"



    Scott
  • stpstp Advanced Members Posts: 981
    I held my tongue after your initial appraisal but hold no more. My findings are completely contrary to yours. I have played the ix, i, ldp red, and ldp burner. the ix is the first new ball that I have played where I walked off the course and into the pro shop and bought a dozen.



    I am notoriously cheap and usually play used balls unless in tournament play. My ball of choice prior to the ix was the hx.tour. Great ball especially into the wind here near the ocean at sea level. Most of the manufacturers play at my course so i tend to get my hands on new balls/equipment before release. Ergo, I have been playing these balls for a couple months.



    I find the ix to be super long off the driver yet gives normal distance with irons. I say normal off the irons because the hx hot is super long off the driver and a club long off the irons. ix has nice feel around the greens and stops nicely on approach shots.



    I liked the i and the ldp red also but for me the ix is King. I did not like the burner tp ldp, it felt too soft and that soft feeling did not result in extra spin on chip shots.



    Maybe our swing speed difference is the factor that leads to different conclusions. I am in the high 120's.
  • jones137jones137 Advanced Members Posts: 2,596
    stp wrote on Mar 3 2008, 09:23 PM:
    I held my tongue after your initial appraisal but hold no more. My findings are completely contrary to yours. I have played the ix, i, ldp red, and ldp burner. the ix is the first new ball that I have played where I walked off the course and into the pro shop and bought a dozen.



    I am notoriously cheap and usually play used balls unless in tournament play. My ball of choice prior to the ix was the hx.tour. Great ball especially into the wind here near the ocean at sea level. Most of the manufacturers play at my course so i tend to get my hands on new balls/equipment before release. Ergo, I have been playing these balls for a couple months.



    I find the ix to be super long off the driver yet gives normal distance with irons. I say normal off the irons because the hx hot is super long off the driver and a club long off the irons. ix has nice feel around the greens and stops nicely on approach shots.



    I liked the i and the ldp red also but for me the ix is King. I did not like the burner tp ldp, it felt too soft and that soft feeling did not result in extra spin on chip shots.



    Maybe our swing speed difference is the factor that leads to different conclusions. I am in the high 120's.




    Wow. High 120's......Might have something to do with the difference in performance. image/bb.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' /> I'm surprised the burner ball didn't explode when you hit it. The HX Tour is pretty low spin off the driver and at your swing speed you certainly don't need spin to keep the ball in the air. How was the ix around the greens compared to the LDP Red?
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  • GiantbearGiantbear Advanced Members Posts: 356
    G-Bone wrote on Mar 3 2008, 08:03 PM:
    <br />
    sidewinder wrote on Mar 3 2008, 05&#58;59 PM:
    Golfdog wrote on Mar 3 2008, 02&#58;29 PM:
    sidewinder wrote on Mar 3 2008, 04&#58;45 PM:
    Guys,<br /><br />The Pro V1x is the distance ball and has a harder feel. The Pro V1 is the spin ball with softer feel.....<br /><br />Scott
    <br /><br />Go to the Golf Magazine ball test and check out the spin rates for the x and regular Pro Vs. You will be surprised.<br />
    <br />I read the ball test article. Do you believe everything you read in a golf magazine?<br /><br />Scott<br />
    <br /><br />I spent half of last year trying to convince my golf pro that the V1x had more spin on short irons than the V1, he laughed at me more than once! Finally he tried a side by side comparison an to his shock agreed 100%! Perhaps it used to be the other way around, but now the V1x spins more off short irons, but still spins less off the driver.<br /><br />I found this out by accident, I spin the ball a lot, therefore never even tried the V1. Got a dozen for free so I put them in play and was shocked to find that I DID NOT spin the V1 back near as much as I do the V1x.... I was shocked.<br /><br />Then the article came out and half of the guys at my club stopped laughing at my &quot;crazy&quot; claim and started to test the difference themselves....<br />
    <br /><br /><br />I'm not good enough to do a side by side testing of spin of the pro v1 and v1x, but in FL this winter i did my own on course testing of the two balls. Last season I played the hx black and, although i liked its distance, i did not like it around the green. In FL i kept one V and and one X in my pocket all weekend. I was suprised at the feel around the green with the x,it stopped real well on approach shots and I loved how it drove. The V was also great around the green, but i expected that. With the play of the x around the green and how it bore through the wind off the driver, its the ball in my bag now.
  • GolfdogGolfdog Members Posts: 701
    stp wrote on Mar 3 2008, 09&#58;23 PM:
    Maybe our swing speed difference is the factor that leads to different conclusions. I am in the high 120's.




    Ya think? LOL



    Yeah you've got about 15 mph on me--and the rest of the world. image/wink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />
  • denmandenman Members Posts: 78
    I played the TM burner this weekend and the wind ate that ball up. Very disappointing.
  • stpstp Advanced Members Posts: 981
    jones137 wrote on Mar 3 2008, 06&#58;31 PM:
    stp wrote on Mar 3 2008, 09&#58;23 PM:
    I held my tongue after your initial appraisal but hold no more. My findings are completely contrary to yours. I have played the ix, i, ldp red, and ldp burner. the ix is the first new ball that I have played where I walked off the course and into the pro shop and bought a dozen.



    I am notoriously cheap and usually play used balls unless in tournament play. My ball of choice prior to the ix was the hx.tour. Great ball especially into the wind here near the ocean at sea level. Most of the manufacturers play at my course so i tend to get my hands on new balls/equipment before release. Ergo, I have been playing these balls for a couple months.



    I find the ix to be super long off the driver yet gives normal distance with irons. I say normal off the irons because the hx hot is super long off the driver and a club long off the irons. ix has nice feel around the greens and stops nicely on approach shots.



    I liked the i and the ldp red also but for me the ix is King. I did not like the burner tp ldp, it felt too soft and that soft feeling did not result in extra spin on chip shots.



    Maybe our swing speed difference is the factor that leads to different conclusions. I am in the high 120's.




    Wow. High 120's......Might have something to do with the difference in performance. image/bb.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' /> I'm surprised the burner ball didn't explode when you hit it. The HX Tour is pretty low spin off the driver and at your swing speed you certainly don't need spin to keep the ball in the air. How was the ix around the greens compared to the LDP Red?


    swing speed has never been the problem, swing aim that is a bit of a different story. the ldp red is maybe a hair more spinny around the greens but really i think it is a sound issue. the red is a lower sounding ball than the ix. the red has a thud where the ix has a click. spin wise it is pretty much a dead heat, but perceived spin goes to the red with its deader sound. the i and the red have very similar sound but the i seems softer but its sound is a bit brighter.



    That probably doesn't help much, but off full shots the ix can't be beat for my swing. I have always wondered if some balls would work better than others at high swing speeds and the ix really does seem to work exceptionally well. This is the first time i have ever noticed a big difference between successive models of a ball. Prior to hitting the ix I was licking my chops waiting for the inevitable price drop on the hx.tours. The card was warmed up for several dozen but now the new ball is all i will play. It is that good.
  • flyhighandlongflyhighandlong Advanced Members Posts: 281
    stp wrote on Mar 3 2008, 11&#58;21 PM:
    jones137 wrote on Mar 3 2008, 06&#58;31 PM:
    stp wrote on Mar 3 2008, 09&#58;23 PM:
    I held my tongue after your initial appraisal but hold no more. My findings are completely contrary to yours. I have played the ix, i, ldp red, and ldp burner. the ix is the first new ball that I have played where I walked off the course and into the pro shop and bought a dozen.



    I am notoriously cheap and usually play used balls unless in tournament play. My ball of choice prior to the ix was the hx.tour. Great ball especially into the wind here near the ocean at sea level. Most of the manufacturers play at my course so i tend to get my hands on new balls/equipment before release. Ergo, I have been playing these balls for a couple months.



    I find the ix to be super long off the driver yet gives normal distance with irons. I say normal off the irons because the hx hot is super long off the driver and a club long off the irons. ix has nice feel around the greens and stops nicely on approach shots.



    I liked the i and the ldp red also but for me the ix is King. I did not like the burner tp ldp, it felt too soft and that soft feeling did not result in extra spin on chip shots.



    Maybe our swing speed difference is the factor that leads to different conclusions. I am in the high 120's.




    Wow. High 120's......Might have something to do with the difference in performance. image/bb.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' /> I'm surprised the burner ball didn't explode when you hit it. The HX Tour is pretty low spin off the driver and at your swing speed you certainly don't need spin to keep the ball in the air. How was the ix around the greens compared to the LDP Red?


    swing speed has never been the problem, swing aim that is a bit of a different story. the ldp red is maybe a hair more spinny around the greens but really i think it is a sound issue. the red is a lower sounding ball than the ix. the red has a thud where the ix has a click. spin wise it is pretty much a dead heat, but perceived spin goes to the red with its deader sound. the i and the red have very similar sound but the i seems softer but its sound is a bit brighter.



    That probably doesn't help much, but off full shots the ix can't be beat for my swing. I have always wondered if some balls would work better than others at high swing speeds and the ix really does seem to work exceptionally well. This is the first time i have ever noticed a big difference between successive models of a ball. Prior to hitting the ix I was licking my chops waiting for the inevitable price drop on the hx.tours. The card was warmed up for several dozen but now the new ball is all i will play. It is that good.




    With your swing speed, what is your results between the Callaway Tour IX and the ProV1x? Thanks for the reply!
  • BRS216BRS216 Members Posts: 284
    stp wrote on Mar 3 2008, 09&#58;23 PM:
    I held my tongue after your initial appraisal but hold no more. My findings are completely contrary to yours. I have played the ix, i, ldp red, and ldp burner. the ix is the first new ball that I have played where I walked off the course and into the pro shop and bought a dozen.



    I am notoriously cheap and usually play used balls unless in tournament play. My ball of choice prior to the ix was the hx.tour. Great ball especially into the wind here near the ocean at sea level. Most of the manufacturers play at my course so i tend to get my hands on new balls/equipment before release. Ergo, I have been playing these balls for a couple months.



    I find the ix to be super long off the driver yet gives normal distance with irons. I say normal off the irons because the hx hot is super long off the driver and a club long off the irons. ix has nice feel around the greens and stops nicely on approach shots.



    I liked the i and the ldp red also but for me the ix is King. I did not like the burner tp ldp, it felt too soft and that soft feeling did not result in extra spin on chip shots.



    Maybe our swing speed difference is the factor that leads to different conclusions. I am in the high 120's.




    Funny how you contradict yourself by saying you only play used balls...Then you say that you have been playing this ball for a few months??? Unless you are a Club Pro or assistant, how can you get new equipment in your hands so early?
  • stpstp Advanced Members Posts: 981
    BRS216 wrote on Mar 4 2008, 06&#58;09 AM:
    stp wrote on Mar 3 2008, 09&#58;23 PM:
    I held my tongue after your initial appraisal but hold no more. My findings are completely contrary to yours. I have played the ix, i, ldp red, and ldp burner. the ix is the first new ball that I have played where I walked off the course and into the pro shop and bought a dozen.



    I am notoriously cheap and usually play used balls unless in tournament play. My ball of choice prior to the ix was the hx.tour. Great ball especially into the wind here near the ocean at sea level. Most of the manufacturers play at my course so i tend to get my hands on new balls/equipment before release. Ergo, I have been playing these balls for a couple months.



    I find the ix to be super long off the driver yet gives normal distance with irons. I say normal off the irons because the hx hot is super long off the driver and a club long off the irons. ix has nice feel around the greens and stops nicely on approach shots.



    I liked the i and the ldp red also but for me the ix is King. I did not like the burner tp ldp, it felt too soft and that soft feeling did not result in extra spin on chip shots.



    Maybe our swing speed difference is the factor that leads to different conclusions. I am in the high 120's.




    Funny how you contradict yourself by saying you only play used balls...Then you say that you have been playing this ball for a few months??? Unless you are a Club Pro or assistant, how can you get new equipment in your hands so early?


    Ughhh.... usually and only have different meanings. Read the post for the answer to your questions.
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