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Best "mudders" on PGA?

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Looking at the upcoming weather forecast for the Masters, I noticed that it's going to rain Monday and Wednesday, and Thursday/Friday it's going to be cloudy and very windy.<br />
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Who are the best "bad conditions" golfers?<br />
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And conversely, who falls apart when the going gets tough?<br />
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Zach J seems to play well in bad weather, but no one else springs to mind. And this opinion, BTW, is purely anecdotal..seeing as he won his two majors under fairly crappy conditions.<br />
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Thanks!<br />
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PS. In process of picking my pool players, so trying to make it a little more scientific this year <img src='http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />
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  • md1mmd1m Members  801WRX Points: 99Posts: 801 Golden Tee
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    Definitely not Bubba. He gets very upset if there is any mud on his ball. Look up bubba watson mudball on youtube. It's pretty funny. I can remember him screaming it many times.
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    El Pato, naturally.
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    Don't know about the current competitors but Tom Watson was the best bad weather player I ever saw. He seemed to relish crappy conditions.
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    Two gloves Phil and Stenson seemed to play well in the Open last summer.<br />
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    Then again, in an interview last year, Phil believed firm conditions favored players with more course knowledge and experience. This is a good article if you're interested in the topic:<br />
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    http://www.cbssports.com/golf/news/masters-2016-heres-why-phil-mickelson-doesnt-want-it-to-rain/<br />
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    "I'm hopeful that this is going to be a firm, fast Masters," said Mickelson on Tuesday. "When the greens on the golf course are firm you and you don't make a divot, angles are very important and so is lag putting and so is missing the ball in the right spot. So is management, strategy into the greens, putting it in the right spot."<br />
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    Guess who's really good at all of those things? Big Lefty himself.<br />
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    "When the greens are soft and receptive, you can get away with a lot of mistakes," said Mickelson. "You can put the ball in the wrong spot and still have a shot, still have a chance to make birdie. When the golf course is soft and you're able to fly the ball to the hole and stop it fairly quickly, it eliminates a lot of the trouble and a lot of the challenge of Augusta National."
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    jonsnow wrote:
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    Don't know about the current competitors but Tom Watson was the best bad weather player I ever saw. He seemed to relish crappy conditions.<br />
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    I agree 1000%
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    jonsnow wrote:
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    Don't know about the current competitors but Tom Watson was the best bad weather player I ever saw. He seemed to relish crappy conditions.<br />
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    Watson was the greatest mudder of all time. He won the 1979 Memorial by 3, I believe it snowed during one of the rounds and was cold and wet otherwise all week. Current players, probably Brandt Snedeker, his win at Torrey Pines last year in crappy weather shows that.
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    Fowler won the Scottish Open in 2015 with pretty tough conditions. Patrick Reed played well in the 2014 Ryder Cup at Gleneagles when it was very soggy. Then again he was made for Ryder Cup, whatever the conditions. Justin Rose and Justin Thomas can play in the wet.
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    Sandy Lyle, shot one of the finest bad weather rounds ever (71) at The Open in 1987.
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    Langlands wrote:
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    Sandy Lyle, shot one of the finest bad weather rounds ever (71) at The Open in 1987.<br />
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    +1<br />
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    Some say Sandy was born wearing a rain jacket!
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    I know Bubby doesn't like mud on his balls
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    Watson's mother was a mudder!<br />
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    Needed saying,
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    Hawkeye77 wrote:
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    Watson's mother was a mudder!<br />
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    Needed saying,<br />
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    He loves the slop. Eats the slop.
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    Rory seems like an obvious choice here.
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    Brandt loves this course, plays well on this course, and plays well in poor conditions as mentioned earlier. I like him to play well this week.
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    ebrasmus21 wrote:
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    Rory seems like an obvious choice here.<br />
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    You'd think so, given that he comes from Northern Ireland and grew up playing links golf. But he's never struck me as a particularly good bad weather player. Of the Irish contingent I'd take Lowry or Clarke in the wind and rain every time.<br />
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    An earlier poster mentioned Fowler. This looks a great call to me - I saw him play in a gale in the 2011 Open at Sandwich (which Clarke won) and was very impressed. If the weather cuts up rough at Augusta he must stand a good chance.
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    Bagz1880 wrote:
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    ebrasmus21 wrote:
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    Rory seems like an obvious choice here.<br />
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    An earlier poster mentioned Fowler. This looks a great call to me - I saw him play in a gale in the 2011 Open at Sandwich (which Clarke won) and was very impressed. If the weather cuts up rough at Augusta he must stand a good chance.<br />
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    He's also playing some great stuff this year too. 4 Top 10 finishes so far this season with a win at The Honda, leads the tour in scoring average, 2nd in total driving, 4th in strokes gained tee-to-green, 2nd in strokes-gained total, 3rd in scrambling, 1st in sand saves, Top 10 in strokes-gained-putting, his all around game right now is of the highest quality. He's had a Top 5 in The Masters before and I can see him having a very good week.
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    Ricky and ZJ always strike me as guys that are mudders and play well in bad conditions.
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    I second Rory.
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    El Pato, naturally.<br />
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    if its going to be soft and slow that would play into Dustin and Rory's hands even more than it does now
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    Soft and slow will be good for ballstrikers like Dustin or Stenson. And bad for Spieth. In fact, Stenson is a great wind player so slow and windy would be great for him.
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    Danm2501 wrote:
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    Bagz1880 wrote:
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    ebrasmus21 wrote:
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    Rory seems like an obvious choice here.<br />
    <br />
    An earlier poster mentioned Fowler. This looks a great call to me - I saw him play in a gale in the 2011 Open at Sandwich (which Clarke won) and was very impressed. If the weather cuts up rough at Augusta he must stand a good chance.<br />
    <br />
    <br />
    He's also playing some great stuff this year too. 4 Top 10 finishes so far this season with a win at The Honda, leads the tour in scoring average, 2nd in total driving, 4th in strokes gained tee-to-green, 2nd in strokes-gained total, 3rd in scrambling, 1st in sand saves, Top 10 in strokes-gained-putting, his all around game right now is of the highest quality. He's had a Top 5 in The Masters before and I can see him having a very good week.<br />
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    Wouldn't surprise me if Rickie played well - I hope he does.
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    Bagz1880 wrote:
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    ebrasmus21 wrote:
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    Rory seems like an obvious choice here.<br />
    <br />
    <br />
    You'd think so, given that he comes from Northern Ireland and grew up playing links golf. But he's never struck me as a particularly good bad weather player. Of the Irish contingent I'd take Lowry or Clarke in the wind and rain every time.<br />
    <br />
    An earlier poster mentioned Fowler. This looks a great call to me - I saw him play in a gale in the 2011 Open at Sandwich (which Clarke won) and was very impressed. If the weather cuts up rough at Augusta he must stand a good chance.<br />
    <br />
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    Rory seems to like softer, damp conditions like Congressional the year he won the U.S. Open, but I don't think he particularly likes wind since he hits the ball so high.
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    I know Bubby doesn't like mud on his balls<br />
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    Depending on the situation, I can be down with some mud on my balls
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    I had Rickie on my team for our local pool last year,.... 80 in round 1 ruined my team for the entire tournament and bet. <br />
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    Never again will I pick Rickie at the Masters<br />
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    having said that, he'll probably win!! <img src='http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />
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  • GnomesteelGnomesteel Members  999WRX Points: 113Handicap: 1.3Posts: 999 Golden Tee
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    Rory for sure. If the greens are receptive he'll be throwing darts in all day. Plus, he carries the ball farther off the tee than almost everyone.
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    jonsnow wrote:
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    Bagz1880 wrote:
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    ebrasmus21 wrote:
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    Rory seems like an obvious choice here.<br />
    <br />
    <br />
    You'd think so, given that he comes from Northern Ireland and grew up playing links golf. But he's never struck me as a particularly good bad weather player. Of the Irish contingent I'd take Lowry or Clarke in the wind and rain every time.<br />
    <br />
    An earlier poster mentioned Fowler. This looks a great call to me - I saw him play in a gale in the 2011 Open at Sandwich (which Clarke won) and was very impressed. If the weather cuts up rough at Augusta he must stand a good chance.<br />
    <br />
    <br />
    Rory seems to like softer, damp conditions like Congressional the year he won the U.S. Open, but I don't think he particularly likes wind since he hits the ball so high.<br />
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    This is a good point. However, if the wind dies down and its just wet and maybe a little bit rainy out there I would imagine Rory will play very well indeed.
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    jonsnow wrote:
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    Don't know about the current competitors but Tom Watson was the best bad weather player I ever saw. He seemed to relish crappy conditions.<br />
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    ...and 5 Open Championships seem to agree with you.
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