The surprising Callaway Fusion driver

sfdoddsysfdoddsy Members Posts: 1,322 ✭✭
On a whim (and because it was really cheap) i bought a Callaway Fusion driver head.



My expectation based on the few threads here is that it would be a high launch, high spin forgiving head aimed at those who need all the help they can get.



I beg to differ.



I've been doing some quasi-scientific testing of various drivers for those of us with less than spritely swings. I've tested the Epic, Epic Subzero, GBB and Cobra LTD.



And now the Fusion.



For me, when combined with the Hzrdus Black I used as a baseline, it has lowest spin of all the drivers I've tested. Not by much, but the opposite of what I was expecting.



When combined with its forgiveness, this makes it as least as long and accurate as its flashier brethren.



I've tried the Recoil that normally comes with the Fusion in an Epic and found it to play the way most people describe the Fusion.



Given that the price of one on eBay is 1/3 that of an Epic, it is worth checking out.



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  • BunkersarebigcupsBunkersarebigcups Members Posts: 536 ✭✭
    Fusion seems to be quite unterrated!



    Heard a lot of great things. How about directional bias? Callaway claims its draw-biased, so how does it sit and play? Do like it, especially with the 44.5" option, but if there is anything that would really destroy my game, its draw bias =D
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  • sfdoddsysfdoddsy Members Posts: 1,322 ✭✭
    My normal shot is a draw, my evil miss is a pull hook.



    On the launch monitor, with the Hzrdus Black, I actually hit the Fusion more right than I normally do.



    http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/topic/1455006-the-sluggish-swingspeed-shootout-epic-vs-epic-sz-vs-ltd-vs-gbb/page__st__60#entry15342448



    Based on those results I took it out for a practice on the course today and set it up for a draw (+1, D).



    A few went more left than I'd like, so I suspect a neutral setting would be better.



    I should note I had a different shaft in it (a Hzrdus Yellow I've never tried before) so I don't know if that contributed.



    I'd say there is a draw bias, but not as much as the GBB or the standard Epic.



    On the bright side, I hit some nicely controlled deliberate fades, so it is workable.
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  • getair23getair23 Members Posts: 1,957 ✭✭
    The Fusion is a great club that was quickly forgotten/dismissed on here due to the "Epic Leaks."
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  • BunkersarebigcupsBunkersarebigcups Members Posts: 536 ✭✭
    sfdoddsy wrote:


    My normal shot is a draw, my evil miss is a pull hook.



    On the launch monitor, with the Hzrdus Black, I actually hit the Fusion more right than I normally do.



    http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/topic/1455006-the-sluggish-swingspeed-shootout-epic-vs-epic-sz-vs-ltd-vs-gbb/page__st__60#entry15342448



    Based on those results I took it out for a practice on the course today and set it up for a draw (+1, D).



    A few went more left than I'd like, so I suspect a neutral setting would be better.



    I should note I had a different shaft in it (a Hzrdus Yellow I've never tried before) so I don't know if that contributed.



    I'd say there is a draw bias, but not as much as the GBB or the standard Epic.



    On the bright side, I hit some nicely controlled deliberate fades, so it is workable.




    Thanks man, that helps! Sounds like I will give it a go, even though I gave up trying to find something that beats my 910D2
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  • tbowles411tbowles411 ClubWRX Posts: 25,117 ✭✭
    getair23 wrote:


    The Fusion is a great club that was quickly forgotten/dismissed on here due to the "Epic Leaks."


    Tis true. It's not the longest driver by any stretch, but the distance is good. It's saving grace is that it's either going straight, or it's going to draw. Period. And for a lot of people, that's exactly what they need.
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  • cmatthews77cmatthews77 Members Posts: 821 ✭✭
    edited Apr 13, 2017 #7
    I'm typically not a conspiracy theorist but I'm starting to believe that Callaway brought out the Fusion just so the market would see the "stretched design" that they knew most would not like so that they could then very subtly stretch the head design on the Epic and most wouldn't notice.



    I have the Epic (and love it) but staring at it for a while now it seems to be a bit stretched (no where near the Fusion mind you) than their previous GBB or Alpha Drivers.



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  • FubumanFubuman Members Posts: 822 ✭✭
    I don't have one, gonna get one as soon as CPO has them!

    Background, I swing at 112-116 and my gamers are Razr Fit 8,5 / Fubuki K 70x , 816 DBD 9 / D+ 70x , XR16 - Pro 9 / Oban Kiyoshi Gold 75x, of the three my favourite is the RF, super forgiving and the longest & the sound is just WOW.

    I played a full round with a buddy's Fusion paired with a Fujikura Pro 63x of mine & to be honest, this combo is a tad light but done everything my RF does, flew straight, mid/high, flat low spin bombs.

    I was landing them in the same locations that I'm used to & they were rolling the same too, I'll see if I can fit and try all my shafts in it, there might be a better combo still???

    BTW, all my other drivers have been trial & error to get them where they are now, this has been : just grab whatever shaft is laying around to try & boom.

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  • cxissicxissi Lefty Boomers Posts: 1,488 ✭✭
    edited Apr 15, 2017 #9
    I found the Fusion to be the best overall driver I ever played . Forgiveness ,low spin , workable , fairway finding machine , distance .

    There are longer drivers out there but this isn't far behind.

    I tested it head to head with the Epic , my results fond the Fusion was lower spin and longer and straighter . Up against the Epic SZ

    I found the sz was longer on solid strikes but the spin was too low for my ss which is around 95.

    The bottom line best overall driver for me the hunt is over !!
  • FubumanFubuman Members Posts: 822 ✭✭
    I see the Fusion slipping under the radar just like the FTiz & Razr Fit did, those two were super long and forgiving, the FTiz was likely missed because lots of ego's couldn't play a triangle.

    The Razr Fit I think was missed because like sheep, the masses all chased after " white headed" multi sliding weight gimmicks.

    They were both in my bag & I could not pick one over the other, what was a final decider for me was the slightly heavier RF.

    I deffinately will get a Fusion.
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  • SubaruWRXSubaruWRX Members Posts: 3,281 ✭✭
    Does this use the same adapter as the epic? I'd guess it's the same. I'm curious now and would like to go hit one this weekend with the epic shaft I have.

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  • skralyskraly ClubWRX Posts: 1,536 ClubWRX
    SubaruWRX wrote:


    Does this use the same adapter as the epic? I'd guess it's the same. I'm curious now and would like to go hit one this weekend with the epic shaft I have.


    Yes, same adapter.
  • J13J13 Dad golf Members Posts: 15,379 ✭✭
    edited Apr 16, 2017 #13
    I actually liked the Fusion it was just too left bias. I need to be able to move it both ways and it just didn't let me do that. Be interested to toy with one and am like 15g of melt in the toe.
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  • JetPilotJetPilot Members Posts: 61
    I purchased an XR16 off the rack last year and was just bombing it, for me anyways (I'm not a long hitter 245 yards....but I was routinely getting 265 with the XR16). The swingweight just didn't feel right to me, so I went to a fitter and he had me try the Fusion head. It actually had really good numbers for me.



    I purchased a custom shaft with a better swingweight but didn't pull the trigger on the Fusion head because the total cost was going to run about $800. However, my club had a Fusion demo head that I took out for about 5 rounds. I kept trying to get the Fusion to work for me, because I really liked the head and swingweight. I just could not get the Fusion head to pop. It was a really solid head....but I just could not get it to go. I've stayed with the XR16 and continue to be very happy with the distance I'm getting out of it. After 5 rounds and really trying to make the Fusion work....I just couldn't get within 15 yards of the XR16.
  • MorryMorry Members Posts: 829 ✭✭
    Coming from a V-series driver - bombed it, but forgiveness not great and left would happen too often

    GBB was far too draw-biased and a hook machine

    XR16 was better, but didn't give me more than the V-series i thought

    Fusion is a true Bomber - i can move around the weights to alter the swing weight - straight, forgiving and Long

    Hitting more fairways and being out there is the goal - this club is/was completely overshadowed with the Epic

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  • SubaruWRXSubaruWRX Members Posts: 3,281 ✭✭
    So which club is more draw biased?



    Epic or Fusion?



    Also, are the heads in stock trim the same weight or is one a little lighter?



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  • FubumanFubuman Members Posts: 822 ✭✭
    SubaruWRX wrote:


    So which club is more draw biased?



    Epic or Fusion?



    Also, are the heads in stock trim the same weight or is one a little lighter?


    For me, the Fusion is a tad lighter, 2-4g & I did not miss left with it at all, yes some did go left but those were bad lazy hip swings.

    I have hit the Epic 4 times, with all drawing, granted it was not mine & the shaft was not near my spec so I just stopped trying, but I still preferred the sound & feel of the Fusion.

    The thing with the Fusion is that besides the shape, it reminds me so much of the FTiz tour in that it is so forgiving, I can really grip it & rip it without fear, this driver just wants to go straight.
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  • RogerinNewZealandRogerinNewZealand Members Posts: 2,354 ✭✭
    Fubuman, i was thinking of the FT IZ also !! That was one of my first custom built drivers 5 years ago!! Low spin bullets!
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  • jjonny85jjonny85 Members Posts: 75
    I was fit for a Fusion on Good Friday. Ball flight was pretty straight and when I nailed the ball it was rolling out to around 260. A controlled swing for me is about 86mph. When I go after the ball, which is my bad shot, I get up to 92-94mph. When I did this in the fitting I was getting some nice high fades. More often than not my swing speed creeps up sub consciously in a round so it was good to know that the Fusion doesn't cause the issues my R15 did (SLICE!!! FORE!!!!)



    Can't wait for build to complete and get this out on the course. I think I can do even more damage with it.
  • nuthin but a hackernuthin but a hacker Certified Hacker Members Posts: 2,560 ✭✭
    I like my Fusion driver. I thought nothing would replace my BIg Bertha V but it did. I'm playing it at 44.5" and was expecting to give up some distance to make more fairways but that has not been the case. It's just as long and straight off the tee. I'm certainly glad I made the switch.
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  • SwingManSwingMan SwingMan Members Posts: 6,800
    edited Apr 18, 2017 #21
    I've played a Fusion since October.



    The head is relatively low spin, I find it less draw biased and less spinny than either the XR16 or GBB.



    Yes, the head is made to go straight. I prefer a slightly softer triangle like an Epic but the Fusion offers great fairway finding ability. As a result, I don't care.



    I play it 2 ways -- 10.5 at +1 and neutral lie angle, or 10.5 and D lie angle.



    It is a fairway finder for me at 44.5, even on not-so-sweet swing moments.
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  • gioguy21gioguy21 NJMembers Posts: 7,443 ✭✭
    a good friend of mine surprised me -- we were playing two weeks ago and he shows up with his 'new toy'. he has a 110-113 swing speed, moderate load, smooth tempo.



    his toy? fusion driver, 9.5*, kiyoshi white 75g x, 45", hotmelted to D5.



    he's typically long but has trouble going left or right now and then - he missed just 2 fairways and both were easily within play. I was shocked at how well it wanted to hold a straight line -- and went for days. I didn't ask to hit it since, that's just how I feel about other peoples clubs but, it sounded great.



    this driver (as others mentioned above) absolutely got lost in the shuffle. superb.

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  • oneputt8oneputt8 Banned Posts: 26
    I personally just didn't like the head shape. Friend has one, and loves it though
  • TheLetterSeeTheLetterSee Members Posts: 580
    My dad picked up a "used" one that had the stock Rogue Max from an Epic in it and the only thing used about it was the fact that someone bought it and brought it back. The very next day, he only misses one fairway and the Rogue brought his spin down more than the stock Recoil did so he ended getting an extra 15-20 yards. Coming from having a bad slice that would absolutely kill his distance and maybe hit 2 fairways a round, this was an amazing pickup for him.



    If you can get the right shaft for you, this head is really good. I tried his out on the launch monitor and as someone with a 112 ish swing speed who uses an 80 gram X flex driver shaft, this didn't really spin up as much as I thought it would.
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  • azkaevolutionazkaevolution Members Posts: 760 ✭✭
    any idea when CPO starts putting current year models up on the site? toying with the idea of a Fusion or an Epic, but don't want to buy new...
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  • sfdoddsysfdoddsy Members Posts: 1,322 ✭✭
    I've been trying mine at +1 and it does go a little more left than I'd like, but that could be my swing over the weekend.



    I'll try it again in neutral.
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  • MychMych Members Posts: 1,816 ✭✭
    I'm still trying to get along with mine. I have the 12g weight playing at 44.5" with a fubuki 60g shaft, and I mine was lacking significantly in distance behind my Mizuno JPX EZ set at same loft, same 44.5" length, with a slightly heavier Fubuki shaft.
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  • HackerDaveHackerDave Members Posts: 1,404 ✭✭
    edited Apr 18, 2017 #28
    Has anybody tried the 44.5" Fusion shaft (Fubuki I think) in the Epic? I loved the ball flight of the Fusion but the feel wasn't great. Believe me, I can get past that if I'm finding fairways, but I was curious if this shaft in the Epic is almost as forgiving.
  • sfdoddsysfdoddsy Members Posts: 1,322 ✭✭
    The stock Fusion shaft is the Recoil 450. I have tried it in an Epic. It felt too light for me, and on the launch monitor spin was a lot higher than I prefer. Mind you, for me the Epic head spins more than the Fusion.
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  • ThorntonMelonThorntonMelon Members Posts: 190 ✭✭
    Anyone playing the fairway wood? Very mixed reviews online.
  • cxissicxissi Lefty Boomers Posts: 1,488 ✭✭
    edited Apr 18, 2017 #31
    sfdoddsy wrote:


    The stock Fusion shaft is the Recoil 450. I have tried it in an Epic. It felt too light for me, and on the launch monitor spin was a lot higher than I prefer. Mind you, for me the Epic head spins more than the Fusion.


    Mine came with the Recoil 450 , didn't like it at all ..weak, high torque and spin. unless you have a super smooth slow swing. I have the

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