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  • gioguy21gioguy21 NJMembers Posts: 7,147 ✭✭
    TollBros wrote:
    No. The one we tested here was a Synergy BLUE prototype. Not the black. Tre is correct.
    My bad guys, I was wrong !

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  • TollBrosTollBros Overseer of the Test Range Sponsors Posts: 4,848 ✭✭
    gioguy21 wrote:

    TollBros wrote:
    No. The one we tested here was a Synergy BLUE prototype. Not the black. Tre is correct.
    My bad guys, I was wrong !




    I wish I could go in and edit the label but it's a screen shot so I cannot. But the blue is pretty good, just not the spin destroyer that Black is.
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  • Mario Good TimesMario Good Times Members Posts: 464 ✭✭
    Tollbros any info on tipping a driver kk xt tx shaft in driver? I did my 3 wood and 5 wood but kinda nervous on how much to tip the driver
  • TollBrosTollBros Overseer of the Test Range Sponsors Posts: 4,848 ✭✭


    Tollbros any info on tipping a driver kk xt tx shaft in driver? I did my 3 wood and 5 wood but kinda nervous on how much to tip the driver




    Absolutely. If you purchased through us, just shoot me a PM and I'll be happy to go through data and info to get you set up correctly. Just give me some time, as I've been off the last 2 days and have nearly 200 emails and pm's to go through first.
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  • keadskeads Members Posts: 120 ✭✭
    INCREDIBLE information, here. Thanks so much.
  • TollBrosTollBros Overseer of the Test Range Sponsors Posts: 4,848 ✭✭
    keads wrote:


    INCREDIBLE information, here. Thanks so much.




    Thank you. It's nice to be appreciated. image/wink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' />
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  • Rpete33Rpete33 Members Posts: 495 ✭✭
    If anyone is lookin for a t1100 hit me up on BST
  • tyorke1tyorke1 Members Posts: 2,190 ✭✭
    the copperhead used for the 107ss was that the 70x or tx shaft , and is this similar to the stock offering from taylor.
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  • Violet07Violet07 Banned Posts: 82
    This is one of the more usual threads on this forum. Thank you for putting the time and work into this.
  • TollBrosTollBros Overseer of the Test Range Sponsors Posts: 4,848 ✭✭
    edited Apr 16, 2018 #911
    tyorke1 wrote:


    the copperhead used for the 107ss was that the 70x or tx shaft , and is this similar to the stock offering from taylor.




    The TX is a different profile from the other flexes. A little search will give you this thread we did that compares not only the V2 orange and Copperhead, but Copperhead X and TX flex. Showing you the differences of the TX profile in real world performance.



    http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/topic/1557466-tensei-pro-orange-v2-vs-copperhead-tx-comparison-data/page__fromsearch__1



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  • tyorke1tyorke1 Members Posts: 2,190 ✭✭
    Thanks, I read that ,just was not sure what one was used in the test ,I know now it was the 70tx, thanks
    m6 9 degree , tensai pro orange 70s ,
    m4 3 wd, 15 degree rogue 125 msi 60 tour x ,
    816 h1 hybrid 19 degree ,speeder tour spec
    taylor p790 17 degree
    callaway apex pro c-taper stiff 
    vokey 52--56--60
    taylormade spider tour dj versionr
    epic green staff bag or titleist cart bag
  • PompsPomps Members Posts: 844 ✭✭
    If anyone is looking for an untipped kk dc 60tx with a cally adapter, I have one about to hit BST
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  • TollBrosTollBros Overseer of the Test Range Sponsors Posts: 4,848 ✭✭
    tyorke1 wrote:


    Thanks, I read that ,just was not sure what one was used in the test ,I know now it was the 70tx, thanks




    No problem. Hopefully the data from both the X and TX is helpful
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  • cota0429cota0429 ClubWRX Posts: 3,489 ClubWRX
    edited Apr 17, 2018 #915
    Those of you that have the copperhead in TX how have you liked it? I have a TX coming and was originally from Toll Bros untipped at 45. Wondering if it’s going to be enough at 116mph untipped.
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  • TollBrosTollBros Overseer of the Test Range Sponsors Posts: 4,848 ✭✭
    cota0429 wrote:


    Those of you that have the copperhead in TX how have you liked it? I have a TX coming and was originally from Toll Bros untipped at 45. Wondering if it’s going to be enough at 116mph untipped.




    Generally no would be the answer to your question.
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  • cota0429cota0429 ClubWRX Posts: 3,489 ClubWRX
    TollBros wrote:
    cota0429 wrote:


    Those of you that have the copperhead in TX how have you liked it? I have a TX coming and was originally from Toll Bros untipped at 45. Wondering if it’s going to be enough at 116mph untipped.




    Generally no would be the answer to your question.




    Looks like it’s going to be playing 44.5 lol. Thanks
    PING G400 LST Diamana LTD D+ 60 TX
    Callaway Rogue Diamana LTD D+ 80 TX
    Artisan VR Pro's by Mike Taylor X100 soft stepped TW Specs
    SM7 52F, 56M, Oven Green Dot Engage 60 TS
    TW Prototype 001

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  • TollBrosTollBros Overseer of the Test Range Sponsors Posts: 4,848 ✭✭
    cota0429 wrote:

    TollBros wrote:
    cota0429 wrote:


    Those of you that have the copperhead in TX how have you liked it? I have a TX coming and was originally from Toll Bros untipped at 45. Wondering if it’s going to be enough at 116mph untipped.




    Generally no would be the answer to your question.




    Looks like it’s going to be playing 44.5 lol. Thanks




    You can always tip and extend the butt. 1/2 inch won't affect performance on an extension.
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  • cota0429cota0429 ClubWRX Posts: 3,489 ClubWRX
    Thanks! Will do
    PING G400 LST Diamana LTD D+ 60 TX
    Callaway Rogue Diamana LTD D+ 80 TX
    Artisan VR Pro's by Mike Taylor X100 soft stepped TW Specs
    SM7 52F, 56M, Oven Green Dot Engage 60 TS
    TW Prototype 001

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  • Crooksc17Crooksc17 Members Posts: 731 ✭✭
    Does anyone have experience comparing the Pro White to Oban Kiyoshi White?
  • JJPIVJJPIV Members Posts: 155 ✭✭
    When adding weight back to the head, is there a difference between using a tip weight and actually adding it to the head? Moving my PO from an M1 to a Rogue and not sure if there is a best way to get the SW back up- tip weight, lead tape, or getting a heavier weight ****?
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  • TollBrosTollBros Overseer of the Test Range Sponsors Posts: 4,848 ✭✭
    JJPIV wrote:


    When adding weight back to the head, is there a difference between using a tip weight and actually adding it to the head? Moving my PO from an M1 to a Rogue and not sure if there is a best way to get the SW back up- tip weight, lead tape, or getting a heavier weight ****?




    The best way would be to just get the heavier back weight for it.
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  • TollBrosTollBros Overseer of the Test Range Sponsors Posts: 4,848 ✭✭
    edited Apr 18, 2018 #923
    Here is some Synergy Black data comparisons, along with Kuro Kage XD.



    http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/topic/1614812-mitsubishi-kuro-kage-xd-shafts/
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  • pitchinwedgepitchinwedge Members Posts: 1,551 ✭✭
    edited Apr 20, 2018 #924
    Crooksc17 wrote:


    Does anyone have experience comparing the Pro White to Oban Kiyoshi White?




    IME, they are totally different. The Kiyoshi launches very high with somewhat moderate spin vs the Tensei which is low launch and low spin. Also, the 65g Kiyoshi plays stiffer and much heavier than the 60g Tensei Pro White. Tensei is also smoother.



    Kiyoshi white is a great shaft if it fits what you're looking for.
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  • TollBrosTollBros Overseer of the Test Range Sponsors Posts: 4,848 ✭✭

    Crooksc17 wrote:


    Does anyone have experience comparing the Pro White to Oban Kiyoshi White?




    IME, they are totally different. The Kiyoshi launches very high with somewhat moderate spin vs the Tensei which is low launch and low spin. Also, the 65g Kiyoshi plays stiffer and much heavier than the 60g Tensei Pro White. Tensei is also smoother.



    Kiyoshi white is a great shaft if it fits what you're looking for.




    I agree on performance. Kiyoshi white is a softer butt profile but the performance of the shaft is close to a Tensei Blue, non pro version. Higher launch and not excessive, but not really low spin either. If you are looking for something similar, non pro Tensei blue would be close and even though the profile is a bit distracted, the Kevlar in the handle of Tensei smooths out the feel. Neither shaft would really be in this there's, as neither is considered low spin.
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  • cota0429cota0429 ClubWRX Posts: 3,489 ClubWRX
    Dang that Synergy looks legit.
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    Artisan VR Pro's by Mike Taylor X100 soft stepped TW Specs
    SM7 52F, 56M, Oven Green Dot Engage 60 TS
    TW Prototype 001

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  • TollBrosTollBros Overseer of the Test Range Sponsors Posts: 4,848 ✭✭
    edited Apr 21, 2018 #927
    cota0429 wrote:


    Dang that Synergy looks legit.




    They really refined the graphics over time. I play everything logo down and that subtle blue Synergy logo just under the grip looks great. I really like it. Performance is just downright spectacular.
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  • cota0429cota0429 ClubWRX Posts: 3,489 ClubWRX
    TollBros wrote:
    cota0429 wrote:


    Dang that Synergy looks legit.




    They really refined the graphics over time. I play everything logo down and that subtle blue Synergy logo just under the grip looks great. I really like it. Performance is just downright spectacular.




    I just finished hitting the copperhead 70 TX. What a great feeling shaft. Launches a tad too high and if I can just bring the spin down just a little it would be perfect. Synergy has me drooling though... might be the ticket. Plus everything you post about it it’s hard not to try one.
    PING G400 LST Diamana LTD D+ 60 TX
    Callaway Rogue Diamana LTD D+ 80 TX
    Artisan VR Pro's by Mike Taylor X100 soft stepped TW Specs
    SM7 52F, 56M, Oven Green Dot Engage 60 TS
    TW Prototype 001

    WITB http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/topic/1183320-cota0429-nike-oven-baked-witb-52215/
  • TollBrosTollBros Overseer of the Test Range Sponsors Posts: 4,848 ✭✭
    cota0429 wrote:

    TollBros wrote:
    cota0429 wrote:


    Dang that Synergy looks legit.




    They really refined the graphics over time. I play everything logo down and that subtle blue Synergy logo just under the grip looks great. I really like it. Performance is just downright spectacular.




    I just finished hitting the copperhead 70 TX. What a great feeling shaft. Launches a tad too high and if I can just bring the spin down just a little it would be perfect. Synergy has me drooling though... might be the ticket. Plus everything you post about it it’s hard not to try one.




    Copperhead is about as good a feeling shaft as there is. Sort of a Pro Orange with higher spin and launch. The thing I really like about Synergy Black is that it has a very smooth, almost elastic type of linear load. We've got guys as high as 130mph head speed playing it, and some as low as 105. Get the tipping right and you can tune the feel and spin for a wide range of players. I've said this before but even 1/4 inch of tipping in the black means something so if you do decide to go that route, I implore you to let me discuss set up with you so we can really dial it in.
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  • cota0429cota0429 ClubWRX Posts: 3,489 ClubWRX
    That’s crazy that 1/4 inch makes a difference. Any word if the profile is different than the older ones etched M2H093?
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    SM7 52F, 56M, Oven Green Dot Engage 60 TS
    TW Prototype 001

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