Bad day at the office

Sat at work on a Sunday evening so thought I'd have a bit of a rant.

Isn't it really annoying when professional golfers who, because of their talent are lucky enough never to have worked in an office say they've had a bad day at the office during interviews.

Any other interview comments that people find annoying?

I think you're overthinking things.

I think you're overthinking things.

Nope, just find it annoying.

Figure of speech.... Don't be one of those people that gets easily offended...

There is prob some pc reporter ready to acuse him of being insensitive and they will demand an apology. Even golfers have to bust tail to make a living.

I just find it amusing. I would take a bad day in their "office" over a good day in cubicle hell any day of the week.

Cubicle hell is a choice. There are many other hells you coulda Have chosen. Work sucks. We are all in that boat.

Probably not a popular opinion, but anytime it turns into a sermon.

Isn't it really annoying when professional golfers who, because of their talent are lucky enough never to have worked in an office say they've had a bad day at the office during interviews.

No.

You seem like the sensitive type.

Cubicle hell is a choice. There are many other hells you coulda Have chosen. Work sucks. We are all in that boat.

I tried something else recently. The grass was not greener on the other side. I'm glad I tried it (got a CDL and drove trucks for a bit), but at the end of the day...a bad day on 18 wheels is an epic $h1t show compared to a bad day in a white collar environment.

I just find it amusing. I would take a bad day in their "office" over a good day in cubicle hell any day of the week.

Best thing my dad ever taught me: counting other people's money is what victims do.

I just find it amusing. I would take a bad day in their "office" over a good day in cubicle hell any day of the week.

 

Best thing my dad ever taught me: counting other people's money is what victims do.

Ok. My comment has nothing to do with money.

I worked in sales for years and hated it. I came into some money, quit, and went back to college, and got a degree in turf management. Was working at a course when my son was born, and my wife was making a ton more than I was, so I became a stay at home dad. Now, I'm retired. I haven't had a bad day at the office since I quit my sales job, 1990.

I worked in sales for years and hated it. I came into some money, quit, and went back to college, and got a degree in turf management. Was working at a course when my son was born, and my wife was making a ton more than I was, so I became a stay at home dad. Now, I'm retired. I haven't had a bad day at the office since I quit my sales job, 1990.

Sat at work on a Sunday evening so thought I'd have a bit of a rant.

 

Isn't it really annoying when professional golfers who, because of their talent are lucky enough never to have worked in an office say they've had a bad day at the office during interviews.

 

Any other interview comments that people find annoying?

There's a pretty big difference between what you like to do on your days off playing golf with your friends and what those guys do with the travel and other commitments and practice and workouts and the enormous stress that goes along with your income being dependent on your performance. Is it a great job? Yes. Is it the paradise you think it is? Ehhhh, not quite.

Would I trade what I do now to do it? To be a top 50 player in the world sure, that would be amazing, but to be grinding away on web.com (or a lower tour) thinking I've gotta make this work because I don't know what to do with my life if I fall off this tour next year? Nah, I'll stick with what I've got, that can be a tough deal.

They aren't lucky. They worked their asses off to be where they are, all of us were aware the PGA tour existed. Why didn't we make it since it's such a great life? We didn't because we are not as good as them at golf, which is both a sport and a profession. A "job" is just a duty you do in exchange for money and the market dictates what's valuable.

What you are saying is no different than hating on a CEO for thinking he has a tough day and tough decisions sometimes. He worked his way to CEO and ate a lot of crap along the way, and has (mostly) earned the money (that's still too high IMO, but again the market dictates it though i don't think it's beneficial to the system). But i'm sure plenty of CEO's stress over decisions they make

How do you know their lives are so great anyway? Money doesn't determine happiness (thats been shown, provided your basic needs are met) and these guys lives are dissected in public.

The top exec at my company makes a ton of money, but probably travels 60-75% of the year. People might be jealous of the money, but when you ask them to travel like that they scoff. People tend to always see only the positives when it comes to others lives

Cubicle hell is a choice. There are many other hells you coulda Have chosen. Work sucks. We are all in that boat.

 

I tried something else recently. The grass was not greener on the other side. I'm glad I tried it (got a CDL and drove trucks for a bit), but at the end of the day...a bad day on 18 wheels is an epic $h1t show compared to a bad day in a white collar environment.

This is no joke. After 20 years of teaching I can "retire" in3 years. Which means I will need something to supplement my retirement. I always dreamed of driving OTR but I know it's not what it was in late 70's. So if you don't mind, what was it that changed your mind?

Sat at work on a Sunday evening so thought I'd have a bit of a rant.

 

Isn't it really annoying when professional golfers who, because of their talent are lucky enough never to have worked in an office say they've had a bad day at the office during interviews.

 

Any other interview comments that people find annoying?

Your bad day at the office isn't seen by millions of people.

I find the interviewers far more annoying than the interviewees in sports or elsewhere.

I too find it bad form when a pro golfer complains about people bothering him in his office. Yes, it is your "workplace," but you have to be completely tone deaf to make a statement like that and think anyone is going to feel sorry for you.

I too find it bad form when a pro golfer complains about people bothering him in his office. Yes, it is your "workplace," but you have to be completely tone deaf to make a statement like that and think anyone is going to feel sorry for you.

I get the sentiment but there is also an element of "I paid for my ticket so I can heckle the players if I want to" among spectators, which is a shame. People say some stupid things sometimes, and in those circumstances the player has a point.

Cubicle hell is a choice. There are many other hells you coulda Have chosen. Work sucks. We are all in that boat.

 

I tried something else recently. The grass was not greener on the other side. I'm glad I tried it (got a CDL and drove trucks for a bit), but at the end of the day...a bad day on 18 wheels is an epic $h1t show compared to a bad day in a white collar environment.

 

This is no joke. After 20 years of teaching I can "retire" in3 years. Which means I will need something to supplement my retirement. I always dreamed of driving OTR but I know it's not what it was in late 70's. So if you don't mind, what was it that changed your mind?

My first issue...there is a completely different mentality in that line of work than what I was used to (aircrew member in the military and then financial analyst on the outside). The ends (getting the freight from Point 'A' to Point 'B') always justifies the means. You will...at some point... be encourage and/or pressured to drive a vehicle that is not safe and has one or more violations that would leave you hosed if you were to get pulled over by a DOT inspector.

You have to make a decision in a situation like that. The average guy has a clear decision...he will (most likely) take the truck and go out on the run because he can't afford not to. Or you can do what I did the first time I was told to just take the truck ("it's the only one left") and head out...I grabbed my bag, punched out, and proceeded to head out the door. Only then did my supervisor say "ok...we'll line a rental up for you. Go pick it up." I punched back in, headed out to get the rental truck, and made my deliveries for the day.

The issue there to me (one of many)...why would a supervisor put a driver in the position of having to drive an unsafe truck when another option existed?

I decided to do LTL (Less-Than-Truckload) because I had no interest in sleeping in a truck for weeks on end. I had that opportunity (anything local is a big deal in the trucking community) because I was able to get a hazmat endorsement and a good background check. I started out making pretty decent money and they had regular pay raises.

OTR is VERY hit or miss, as far as quality of life and compensation. My advice...if you decide to go this route...look for a company that offers percentage pay (versus $.xx/mile). With a LOT of the per mile gigs...you'd be better off flipping burgers, by the time you factor in breakdowns (which can be frequent, depending on how your company maintains the tractors and trailers) and traffic (if you're paid per mile...you often aren't making anything if you're sitting still).

At the end of the day, I'm glad that I tried it. It was something I had considered for a while and I met a lot of interesting people. That and the first time I had to maneuver a tractor trailer in a congested urban area...it gave me a whole new respect for the guys and gals that do that for a living. It is not an easy way to make a living. :drinks:

Cubicle hell is a choice. There are many other hells you coulda Have chosen. Work sucks. We are all in that boat.

 

I tried something else recently. The grass was not greener on the other side. I'm glad I tried it (got a CDL and drove trucks for a bit), but at the end of the day...a bad day on 18 wheels is an epic $h1t show compared to a bad day in a white collar environment.

 

This is no joke. After 20 years of teaching I can "retire" in3 years. Which means I will need something to supplement my retirement. I always dreamed of driving OTR but I know it's not what it was in late 70's. So if you don't mind, what was it that changed your mind?

 

My first issue...there is a completely different mentality in that line of work than what I was used to (aircrew member in the military and then financial analyst on the outside). The ends (getting the freight from Point 'A' to Point 'B') always justifies the means. You will...at some point... be encourage and/or pressured to drive a vehicle that is not safe and has one or more violations that would leave you hosed if you were to get pulled over by a DOT inspector.

 

You have to make a decision in a situation like that. The average guy has a clear decision...he will (most likely) take the truck and go out on the run because he can't afford not to. Or you can do what I did the first time I was told to just take the truck ("it's the only one left") and head out...I grabbed my bag, punched out, and proceeded to head out the door. Only then did my supervisor say "ok...we'll line a rental up for you. Go pick it up." I punched back in, headed out to get the rental truck, and made my deliveries for the day.

 

The issue there to me (one of many)...why would a supervisor put a driver in the position of having to drive an unsafe truck when another option existed?

 

I decided to do LTL (Less-Than-Truckload) because I had no interest in sleeping in a truck for weeks on end. I had that opportunity (anything local is a big deal in the trucking community) because I was able to get a hazmat endorsement and a good background check. I started out making pretty decent money and they had regular pay raises.

 

OTR is VERY hit or miss, as far as quality of life and compensation. My advice...if you decide to go this route...look for a company that offers percentage pay (versus $.xx/mile). With a LOT of the per mile gigs...you'd be better off flipping burgers, by the time you factor in breakdowns (which can be frequent, depending on how your company maintains the tractors and trailers) and traffic (if you're paid per mile...you often aren't making anything if you're sitting still).

 

At the end of the day, I'm glad that I tried it. It was something I had considered for a while and I met a lot of interesting people. That and the first time I had to maneuver a tractor trailer in a congested urban area...it gave me a whole new respect for the guys and gals that do that for a living. It is not an easy way to make a living. :drinks:

Thanks for the detailed response. I am saving this to my files. Lot of useful info. : )

I just find it amusing. I would take a bad day in their "office" over a good day in cubicle hell any day of the week.

 

Best thing my dad ever taught me: counting other people's money is what victims do.

 

Ok. My comment has nothing to do with money.

Did it have anything to do with a metaphor? Probably not, eh?

I think you're overthinking things.

 

Nope, just find it annoying.

That's that then.

Everything is relative. These guys do have bad days by their standards.

That said, I think there are a lot of them who have absolutely zero clue what the real world is like. Have them wash dishes for $8 an hour, with waitstaff and cooks screaming at them, and they'd be begging for their bad day at the PGA office back.

Everything is relative. These guys do have bad days by their standards.

 

That said, I think there are a lot of them who have absolutely zero clue what the real world is like. Have them wash dishes for $8 an hour, with waitstaff and cooks screaming at them, and they'd be begging for their bad day at the PGA office back.

washing dishes? I think a lot of us forgot what its like in the real world. I havent worked in a restaurant in decades.

Interview comments that I find annoying are usually the result of inane comments by the television interviewer and so the comments from the players sound both routine and predictable. I could do a Jordan Speith sound alike interview by using that annoying imperial "we" that he uses over and over to refer to himself--he needs to win about thirteen more majors before employing that term.

The there is DJ with his "you know?", "Like" etc. Everyone in public life should go to some form of retraining where the "you know" is literally beaten out of them--never to be used again on pain of death!

So, yeah, I have, like, you know, some annoying moments with "professional" players, OK?

Everything is relative. These guys do have bad days by their standards.

 

That said, I think there are a lot of them who have absolutely zero clue what the real world is like. Have them wash dishes for $8 an hour, with waitstaff and cooks screaming at them, and they'd be begging for their bad day at the PGA office back.

This is true, they do live in a bubble and can seem pretty disconnected from reality at times if you know them.

"Comparison is the thief of joy" - Teddy Roosevelt

They aren't lucky. They worked their asses off to be where they are, all of us were aware the PGA tour existed. Why didn't we make it since it's such a great life? We didn't because we are not as good as them at golf, which is both a sport and a profession. A "job" is just a duty you do in exchange for money and the market dictates what's valuable.

 

What you are saying is no different than hating on a CEO for thinking he has a tough day and tough decisions sometimes. He worked his way to CEO and ate a lot of crap along the way, and has (mostly) earned the money (that's still too high IMO, but again the market dictates it though i don't think it's beneficial to the system). But i'm sure plenty of CEO's stress over decisions they make

 

How do you know their lives are so great anyway? Money doesn't determine happiness (thats been shown, provided your basic needs are met) and these guys lives are dissected in public.

 

The top exec at my company makes a ton of money, but probably travels 60-75% of the year. People might be jealous of the money, but when you ask them to travel like that they scoff. People tend to always see only the positives when it comes to others lives

You are missing my point entirely. I would never begrudge anyone for being successful as a result of hard work and have the greatest respect for people who've reached the pinnacle of their chosen careers. I did ok for myself to the extent that thirty odd years of 'bad days at the office' meant I've semi retired and now enjoy working a few days a week in the pro shop at a local golf club.

I just find it insensitive that multi millionaire golfing superstars equate their lot to the millions of us who have 9-5 office jobs.

As for being happy, it's better to be unhappy sitting in a Ferrari than a Kia