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Drive 400 Distance Program .... my review

wmblake2000wmblake2000 Advanced Members Posts: 5,439 ✭✭
I posted a couple of months ago about the impact of starting a stretching workout regimen. Since then I began a more thorough workout regimen "Drive 400" (puredistancegolf.com/drive400) designed by a guy named Rob Harrand who I had come across on another golf-addict site. Rob was a pro pitcher and he made his program known on that site just as I was in the mood to do something to improve my body for golf - or at age 65, at least slow its decline. I have not been active in a gym for decades and it was showing. The price was easy to take a chance on (under $30) so I did.



Fast forward 8 weeks or so to the bottom line. I am hitting the ball the best of my life. I have greater range of motion, am stronger and hit the ball farther and not just longer, but also more consistently. And I am just getting started. My back is stronger (I started carrying my bag again! Yahoo!). I just shot my career best (75 -- +3)



Now, is this all from Rob's program? Who knows? I mean, my swing is getting better and better - those seminal lessons from Monte are still paying dividends. But what I think is my body is now better able to support a better swing.



The program has 3 core parts. Mobility exercises, speed swing exercises and strength exercises. The way I do them, the mobility exercises take the most time (1 hr!); the swing stuff about 15 minutes and the strength stuff about 45. So it's a 2 hour workout the way I do it. I do the mobility about 5x/week and the whole thing 3x/week. Embedded in it are a lot of stuff that improves balance. Your whole body - every joint and muscle group involved in the swing - gets a lot of attention in the mobility part. By the time I am done, I am thrashed! All I can say is, I can't wait to see what the impact is in a year. I'm still in the 'old, out of shape' part of the program - it also has more advanced stuff for people who are ready for it.



The reason I am posting this is I really respect young entrepreneurs who are trying to take a passion to market. (I have no financial interest in the program, just respect for Rob). If you've got the time and motivation, I totally recommend this to you. Especially you young guys without a lot of cash, this is a great program for you. If I could reverse time, I would have started and sustained this from my teens onward.
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  • tyorke1tyorke1 Advanced Members Posts: 2,135 ✭✭
    Never heard of it, thanks for sharing, Ill check it out
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  • Jacob MacJacob Mac Advanced Members Posts: 1,762 ✭✭
    Even if it doesn't help your golf, getting stronger and improving mobility has to be great for your quality of life. Especially as one ages.
  • dsmildsmil Advanced Members Posts: 563
    For $20, it seems like it's worth a try. I spend time working out anyway, and I'd rather do something that could help my golf game rather than give me bigger biceps.
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  • mfm22mfm22 Advanced Members Posts: 883
    I'd be very interested in this , same issues as OP , over 60 and not in my best shape .



    Surprising something that seems this beneficial is not discussed more ?
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  • AllenResGolfAllenResGolf Advanced Members Posts: 194
    Great stuff, keep it going!
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    The average player has minimal time to make maximum compensations."
    -Not my quote, but a great one!
  • wmblake2000wmblake2000 Advanced Members Posts: 5,439 ✭✭
    Plus Rob is a good guy. It's not discussed because he's just launched it ... from obscurity. Just a guy with a passion.
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  • wmblake2000wmblake2000 Advanced Members Posts: 5,439 ✭✭
    The thing about doing a regimen is - it's like with Monte with swing instruction - the best thing he told me was how to see improvement - from 1/10 swing to 1/7 to 1/5... What I have seen is some days I am as much as 20-30 yards longer off the tee and 10-15 with irons. Then on others it's just 5-10 off the tee. But the trend line is clear.



    Of course I wasn't real long when I started this so I had a lot of room to improve.



    It's fun to hit it hard! What I think I enjoy the most is hitting a 5 iron 170 again...This is like my gauge. I was down to 155 and now it's 165-170.



    There's one other perk. Going to the gym in Hermosa Beach, Ca. and being in the mix with all these people - men and women, old and young - who are exercising. It makes me feel like I'm an athlete. I regained a part of me I had misplaced.
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    Cameron Futura 5W

    If you see any more new irons in my bag before 2020, call the paramedics because my wife will have seriously injured me
  • i*windowsi*windows Advanced Members Posts: 2,108 ✭✭
    interesting stuff, do you think that the additional strength training you are doing or the speed program is giving you the improvements?
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  • JasonicJasonic Gamer Banned Posts: 3,571
    No weights or anything, just do at home?
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  • bwrichmondbwrichmond Bomb and gouge??? More like bomb, search, gouge if you find it Advanced Members Posts: 1,206
    I've got an extra $20 and I'm bored with my current morning workouts, which is causing me to skip them too frequently. I'm in for a trial of this. Just placed the order. Looks like for the strength training piece of the program, you do need access to a gym or very well appointed home gym.
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  • masamitsumasamitsu Advanced Members Posts: 2,458 ✭✭
    For $20 I'll give it a shot. Order placed.
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  • bwrichmondbwrichmond Bomb and gouge??? More like bomb, search, gouge if you find it Advanced Members Posts: 1,206
    edited June 2017
    First test of customer service. I had trouble with the download, which is only allowed once. It could have been because I was trying to download straight to a thumb drive. I'll try putting it onto my computer directly first, then transferring to a thumb drive.



    Edit: Went back into my browser's download window where it told me the file was misplaced or missing. I copied the download link, put it into a new tab on my browser, and was able to redownload. DL'ed straight to my computer's hard drive then transferred to a thumb drive.
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    Callaway X Hot Pro 3Deep 13* with Aldila ProtoPYPE 80 S
    TaylorMade UDI 1-iron 16* with Dynamic Gold X100
    Cleveland 588TT 4-PW with KBS C-Taper X
    Scratch 47, 51, and 56 wedges with Dynamic Gold X7 8-iron shafts
    Odyssey Metal-X 7 Mid 385g cut to 38" and counterbalanced
    TaylorMade Lethal / TaylorMade Tour Preferred X
  • MMB1500MMB1500 Advanced Members Posts: 6,310 ✭✭
    Do you need any special equipment? Wouldn't want to get something like this and then find out I need to spend another $300 on stuff to do the exercises with.
  • bwrichmondbwrichmond Bomb and gouge??? More like bomb, search, gouge if you find it Advanced Members Posts: 1,206
    My very quick review based on about 30 mins of perusal...



    The program comes in three PDF documents, one for each phase. Within the PDFs are links to videos showing proper technique for the mobility and stretching work, which requires a foam roller and lacrosse ball. I don't have those things, but bought them on Amazon for an additional $20ish dollars. If you already have them, no additional cost.



    The strength training does require access to a gym. Again, if you already have it, no additional cost. If you have a pretty substantial home gym, you could also perform things at home. Rob presents the strength portion as optional, but I'd think your gains are going to be significantly better with the strength training on top of the mobility training than just the mobility training by itself.



    It's promoted as a 12 week program, so I'm going to try to follow it as best I can for the full 12 weeks and report back. Won't be taking the time to do baseline Trackman's before and after or anything like that. I just don't have the time. I'll give my anecdotal thoughts though.
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    Scratch 47, 51, and 56 wedges with Dynamic Gold X7 8-iron shafts
    Odyssey Metal-X 7 Mid 385g cut to 38" and counterbalanced
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  • wmblake2000wmblake2000 Advanced Members Posts: 5,439 ✭✭
    The mobility and swing stuff you don't need any equipment for. But the strength stuff is all barbell stuff - squats, bench press, etc There's one exercise that uses a machine.
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  • wmblake2000wmblake2000 Advanced Members Posts: 5,439 ✭✭
    Initial improvement came from increased mobility. Now it's from the whole package... and I think strength will become more important. I can already tell I don't have to swing as 'hard' (subjectively) to get speed.
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    Cameron Futura 5W

    If you see any more new irons in my bag before 2020, call the paramedics because my wife will have seriously injured me
  • wmblake2000wmblake2000 Advanced Members Posts: 5,439 ✭✭
    I'll be very interested to see how this works for others.



    Maybe Rob should join this thread so people can talk directly to him so we can all learn together.
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    If you see any more new irons in my bag before 2020, call the paramedics because my wife will have seriously injured me
  • wmblake2000wmblake2000 Advanced Members Posts: 5,439 ✭✭
    edited June 2017
    One other thing. The increase in speed is also an attitude. Monte also talks about this and Rob talks about it. It's using a simple mindset freed up from a lot of mechanical stuff. One of the causes of longer vs shorter days seems to be when I am thinking more about backswing mechanics vs a focus on impact/post impact. When I have enough confidence to really let it fly thru impact, those are the days the full impact on distance improvement happens.
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  • wmblake2000wmblake2000 Advanced Members Posts: 5,439 ✭✭
    Last thing ... I spent some time really looking thru the content and getting organized - e.g. putting links to exercises and creating a note to track sequence, record where I am, etc. I was pretty cautious about starting strength part and spent 4-6 weeks just increasing range of motion first. I don't want to get injured with the strength stuff and form matters and range of motion is required for good form.
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    Callawy Epic 5W
    Callaway Epic Hybrid 2h
    TM P790 4-AW
    Fourteen mt28v3 54, 58
    Cameron Futura 5W

    If you see any more new irons in my bag before 2020, call the paramedics because my wife will have seriously injured me
  • Swisstrader98Swisstrader98 Advanced Members Posts: 3,474 ✭✭
    Yup, be careful about injuries. I did the P90x program for a few months and was playing some great golf. Then the same program that had me feeling strong and playing great gave me a very bad shoulder injury and had me on the sidelines for the entire season image/tomato.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':tomato:' />
  • Harob11Harob11 Harob11 Advanced Members Posts: 1,050
    Hi guys. So the program has 3 main focal points. The Warmup, the Swing-Speed Drills and the Strength Training. (there’s also a Nutrition and Sleep Guide). Ideally, and to see the best results, you want to follow all three.



    However, you can:



    a) Just follow the warmup program.

    b) Follow the warmup program and swing-speed drills.

    c) Follow the warmup program and the strength training program.



    I designed the program so anyone can benefit, it just depends on how much time you have and how much you care to put in.



    One thing I've really noticed with Golf and most Golfers is there is really no focus on warming up the body prior to a range session or a round of golf. Most people just stick a tee in the ground and start swinging. That’s obviously up to the individual but I think most people would be pretty amazed at what a proper 15 min warmup can do for their swing-speed/distance and injury prevention.



    I spent most of my life as a pro baseball pitcher and if there's one thing Baseball organizations do get right (there’s a lot they don’t), is the importance of a proper warmup routine for keeping their pitchers healthy. Golf is no different.



    I really tried to put together a solid warmup routine that I think Golfers will benefit from. It focuses on breaking up scar-tissue and adhesions, increasing range of motion, and muscle and nervous system activation. I think a lot of you will be very surprised at how much of a roll it plays in performance and how much better you will start to feel.



    Most of the information regarding the swing-speed drills, the mental aspect of the program (having the mental intent to swing fast, subconscious movement, etc) and the strength training aspects of the program are on the website, so I won't get into all of that here.



    I can go on forever but at the end of the day, I’m just a really big believer in keeping things as simple as possible, not overanalyzing and not getting too scientific. I don’t think we give our minds and bodies nearly enough credit.



    I think sports-science has it’s place, but I do think most people are way over-coached, get way too analytical, end up internalizing and creating far too much conscious thought, which can lead to slower movement, not faster.



    Anyway, rant over. If anyone has any questions about the program I’m totally here to help. Just let me know.



    I appreciate it, thanks.



    Rob.
    Drive 400 - Swing Faster. Drive Further. www.puredistancegolf.com/drive400
  • JasonicJasonic Gamer Banned Posts: 3,571
    Starting tomorrow. Looking forward to some 325 yard drives!!
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  • Kenny Lee PuckettKenny Lee Puckett Advanced Members Posts: 3,460
    Jasonic wrote:


    Starting tomorrow. Looking forward to some 325 yard drives!!
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  • ctay61983ctay61983 Advanced Members Posts: 125 ✭✭
    I'm intrigued. Great price point.
  • wmblake2000wmblake2000 Advanced Members Posts: 5,439 ✭✭
    Jasonic wrote:


    Starting tomorrow. Looking forward to some 325 yard drives!!




    Why are you thinking you're going to lose distance?
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  • JasonicJasonic Gamer Banned Posts: 3,571
    edited June 2017

    Jasonic wrote:


    Starting tomorrow. Looking forward to some 325 yard drives!!




    Why are you thinking you're going to lose distance?




    I'm so long I drive with my putter.
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  • wmblake2000wmblake2000 Advanced Members Posts: 5,439 ✭✭
    edited June 2017
    One of the interesting things ... in transition the club is moving backwards and it tends to make the trail arm/elbow lose its position so the shaft gets ott. As I getting stronger I can resist this and then the whole downswing gets more on plane.



    I would have never imagined this but it's true....
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    Callawy Epic 5W
    Callaway Epic Hybrid 2h
    TM P790 4-AW
    Fourteen mt28v3 54, 58
    Cameron Futura 5W

    If you see any more new irons in my bag before 2020, call the paramedics because my wife will have seriously injured me
  • davidy1948davidy1948 Members Posts: 57
    Bought the programme yesterday and I have to say initial reaction is very positive. It's clear that this stuff is produced out of a passion and not just some sllckly put together hype designed to make money. The Nutrition and sleep section reflects the best of current thinking, the speed drills remind me of the speedstick programme, tried and tested. The mobility and warmup also look very good and of general health benefit as well for older folks.



    I have some health issues right now which prevent me from starting, but am definitely going to give the Warmup and speedsections a serious go when I'm recovered. I already do yoga 3 times a week and have a wonderful strength training programme in place so they're both more or less redundant for me. I'm 69 and starting from a low 90's swingspeed base ( hardly dare to admit that here ...) so will give some feedback along the way.



    Well done Rob ! this stuff is seriously underpriced in my view.
  • JasonicJasonic Gamer Banned Posts: 3,571
    First speed and weight session yesterday. Really think it's good. Simple and effective, especially the gym work.



    Curious, most speed trainer systems use a very light club (shaft only) for fast swinging reps supposedly trains the fast twitch fibers. This does not, is there a reason it doesn't?? Thanks
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    Hogan TK wedges - 50*, 54*, 58* - Nippon Modus3 120x
    Ping Anser OG
    Snell MTB Black
  • Harob11Harob11 Harob11 Advanced Members Posts: 1,050
    davidy1948 wrote:


    Bought the programme yesterday and I have to say initial reaction is very positive. It's clear that this stuff is produced out of a passion and not just some sllckly put together hype designed to make money. The Nutrition and sleep section reflects the best of current thinking, the speed drills remind me of the speedstick programme, tried and tested. The mobility and warmup also look very good and of general health benefit as well for older folks.



    I have some health issues right now which prevent me from starting, but am definitely going to give the Warmup and speedsections a serious go when I'm recovered. I already do yoga 3 times a week and have a wonderful strength training programme in place so they're both more or less redundant for me. I'm 69 and starting from a low 90's swingspeed base ( hardly dare to admit that here ...) so will give some feedback along the way.



    Well done Rob ! this stuff is seriously underpriced in my view.






    Thanks David, I appreciate it. Keep us posted.



    Rob.
    Drive 400 - Swing Faster. Drive Further. www.puredistancegolf.com/drive400
  • Harob11Harob11 Harob11 Advanced Members Posts: 1,050
    Jasonic wrote:


    First speed and weight session yesterday. Really think it's good. Simple and effective, especially the gym work.



    Curious, most speed trainer systems use a very light club (shaft only) for fast swinging reps supposedly trains the fast twitch fibers. This does not, is there a reason it doesn't?? Thanks






    Thanks Jason, glad you're liking it. There are actually a few reasons why I decided against the overload/underload idea.




    1. Swinging just your average driver shaft is a little too light and can cause your sequencing to get out of whack and it can cause you to get too handsy.




    2. Underload swinging is actually more dangerous than overload swinging. The higher the velocity of the movement, the higher the risk of injury... especially for the average, untrained golfer. When swinging just a shaft, there is very little resistance, therefore, the speed will be great but all that speed requires your body to decelerate it. For the average, untrained golfer, this can be dangerous. It’s like a car, the faster it goes, the better the brakes need to be to slow it down or else it crashes. Most golfer’s brakes aren’t up for the job, at least not starting out.




    3. The "intent" to swing fast is the single most important aspect, not the weight. You can swing a feather weight shaft or an axe but unless you're doing so with maximum "intent", you're missing the boat and you're not going to recruit fast-twitch muscle fibers.




    4. I wanted to keep this program simple, consistent and affordable. Either I'd have to come out with my own, precisely weighted overload/underload clubs and charge $200 or I'd have to expect everyone make their own, precisely weighted clubs and it would just get too messy and inconsistent. With the soft tissue and mobility work, the dynamic med-ball work, the strength training and the maximum intent swing-speed drills in this program, you're covering all aspects and doing so in a very safe manner... which is the most important thing, bar none.




    Make sense? Hope that helps!




    Rob.
    Drive 400 - Swing Faster. Drive Further. www.puredistancegolf.com/drive400
  • JasonicJasonic Gamer Banned Posts: 3,571
    Harob11 wrote:

    Jasonic wrote:


    First speed and weight session yesterday. Really think it's good. Simple and effective, especially the gym work.



    Curious, most speed trainer systems use a very light club (shaft only) for fast swinging reps supposedly trains the fast twitch fibers. This does not, is there a reason it doesn't?? Thanks






    Thanks Jason, glad you're liking it. There are actually a few reasons why I decided against the overload/underload idea.




    1. Swinging just your average driver shaft is a little too light and can cause your sequencing to get out of whack and it can cause you to get too handsy.




    2. Underload swinging is actually more dangerous than overload swinging. The higher the velocity of the movement, the higher the risk of injury... especially for the average, untrained golfer. When swinging just a shaft, there is very little resistance, therefore, the speed will be great but all that speed requires your body to decelerate it. For the average, untrained golfer, this can be dangerous. It’s like a car, the faster it goes, the better the brakes need to be to slow it down or else it crashes. Most golfer’s brakes aren’t up for the job, at least not starting out.




    3. The "intent" to swing fast is the single most important aspect, not the weight. You can swing a feather weight shaft or an axe but unless you're doing so with maximum "intent", you're missing the boat and you're not going to recruit fast-twitch muscle fibers.




    4. I wanted to keep this program simple, consistent and affordable. Either I'd have to come out with my own, precisely weighted overload/underload clubs and charge $200 or I'd have to expect everyone make their own, precisely weighted clubs and it would just get too messy and inconsistent. With the soft tissue and mobility work, the dynamic med-ball work, the strength training and the maximum intent swing-speed drills in this program, you're covering all aspects and doing so in a very safe manner... which is the most important thing, bar none.




    Make sense? Hope that helps!




    Rob.





    Thanks!!
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  • i*windowsi*windows Advanced Members Posts: 2,108 ✭✭
    Signed up. Nice and straight forward ebook + videos, no BS and all for the cost of a crate of beer.
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  • AFcelicaAFcelica Advanced Members Posts: 684
    Harob11 do you like the idea of heavy clubs then or no
  • Harob11Harob11 Harob11 Advanced Members Posts: 1,050
    edited June 2017
    Yes, they can definitely be helpful. I like the idea of heavier clubs more than lighter clubs, for most people, although they both have their place.



    What can be really beneficial about swinging heavy clubs is they can help improve the efficiency of your golf swing through kinesthetic awareness.



    Using Baseball as an example; take a pitcher with a long, flailing, inefficient arm-action and put a heavy ball in his hand and watch how quickly his arm-action NATURALLY shortens and optimizes itself.



    The heavier the ball (within reason) the more naturally your mind and body are going to subconsciously figure out a way to deliver that ball efficiently, in order to prevent stress.



    Same thing applies to Golf. Try swinging a heavy metal rod and see what your swing looks like compared to a standard weight club. I guarantee you're not going to lift with the arms, cup your wrist and come across the line at the top.



    I'm telling you man, we don't give our minds and bodies nearly enough credit.



    We have the ability to correct swing-flaws rather quickly by just using overloaded implements, externally focusing and having “intent" but instead, we’re all so gung-ho to instantly break things down, hyper-analyze, internalize, overthink and copy everyone we have next to nothing in common with.



    It can work but it requires a **** of a lot of flawless reps and time. Conversely, it can cause paralysis by analysis (Tiger) if you're not extremely careful. I know because it happened to me in my Baseball career.



    I get it. People like the science, the technology, the excitement of peeling back a layer of the onion in order to get closer to “the secret”… but it can be so damaging if you're not careful.



    One last thing; overweight clubs can improve dynamic flexibility and range of motion in people with flexibility limitations, depending on the weight.



    Cheers.



    Rob.
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  • wmblake2000wmblake2000 Advanced Members Posts: 5,439 ✭✭
    The one thing I will add is: it's ok to go slow on this at first. The regimen is pretty comprehensive and if you're like me, starting from no gym work, poor posture, poor range of motion, go slow and focus on the mobility exercises for a while. The workout gets pretty intensive - gets heart rate up much more than it seems if you really go at it. I actually just took a few days off to rest. But back at it yesterday - phase 2. I frankly can't imagine outgrowing this as a process. Glad some of you are trying it and enjoy hearing how you're doing..
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  • JasonicJasonic Gamer Banned Posts: 3,571
    When you say to add 5 lbs to the weight if you complete all reps, is that per side or overall? Thanks



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  • Harob11Harob11 Harob11 Advanced Members Posts: 1,050
    Overall.
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  • wmblake2000wmblake2000 Advanced Members Posts: 5,439 ✭✭
    I just got back from the gym. 2 1/2 hrs, soup to nuts. The thing I like the most is this regimen makes me feel like I am an athlete again. It kicks my butt, but I like that. I take an old fw wood into this gym for the speed swinging stuff. Every time, someone asks me what I'm doing... it really surprises them, like maybe there's a driving range in the gym they don't know about. I had this one younger guy (25?) tell me he knew he needed to take up golf 'because that's all you can do when you get old. As we know from Caddyshack, this is why guppies eat their young.
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  • JasonicJasonic Gamer Banned Posts: 3,571
    Misquoting Caddyshack on GOLFWRX is a big big no no. MODS??
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  • Kenny Lee PuckettKenny Lee Puckett Advanced Members Posts: 3,460
    Jasonic wrote:


    Misquoting Caddyshack on GOLFWRX is a big big no no. MODS??
    lol. I for one will cut him some slack because he was in the gym 2 1/2hrs, I know I wasn't, probably you either tiger.
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  • wmblake2000wmblake2000 Advanced Members Posts: 5,439 ✭✭
    Haha. I just spent 15 minutes trying to find the **** quote. And failed.



    Thank god i can fall back on the 'I'm old' excuse ... so get a haircut and shave that beard before I call your mother.
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    Haha. I just spent 15 minutes trying to find the **** quote. And failed.



    Thank god i can fall back on the 'I'm old' excuse ... so get a haircut and shave that beard before I call your mother.




    You must've been something before electricity...lol
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  • dsmildsmil Advanced Members Posts: 563
    I've had a first go-around with the swing speed program (foam rolling, mobility training, swing speed drills). Even if my swing speed doesn't increase, the foam rolling and mobility training seem very beneficial and I'm hoping to do them often, even on off days. The strength training portion looks good too but I'm going to stick to my own routine that is easier for me to do in my home with dumbbells. I may add the grip strengthening and wrist curls to my routine because they look like they'd help. My hope is to do the swing training 3 times per week and my own weight lifting routine 3 times per week.
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  • acularwacularw Members Posts: 67
    Bought the program and plan to start the mobility and swing speed work tomorrow.



    Looks good so far although I wish it was a little easier to jump to the different videos. My recommendation would be to put a condensed version of the programs with the video links to them in a simple web app that you could have a secure login to (check fitloop.co for an idea). This way it is easier to access on the phone for workouts.
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  • Harob11Harob11 Harob11 Advanced Members Posts: 1,050
    acularw wrote:


    Bought the program and plan to start the mobility and swing speed work tomorrow.



    Looks good so far although I wish it was a little easier to jump to the different videos. My recommendation would be to put a condensed version of the programs with the video links to them in a simple web app that you could have a secure login to (check fitloop.co for an idea). This way it is easier to access on the phone for workouts.




    Hmmm, I'll look into this.



    Right now I simply provide links in PDF manuals that take you straight to Vimeo for the videos.
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