Brooks Koepka and the final hole

He's sitting on a 3 stroke lead coming into the final hole, bombs a 3wd over 370 yds and doesn't go for the green in 2. On top of that, his 3rd (basicly a chip shot) to the green, was nothing to write home about and he's left with what, a 40+ foot putt for a birdie and a NEW RECORD score............So what the heck happened! He sure wasn't nervous on that 3wd tee bomb, so why no "step on the throat killer attitude" that folks attribute to TW. Do not the new young guns have that in their DNA? Here was a chance at history and ????????????.

stupid thread is stupid

stupid thread is stupid

Dude, Stick to surfing.......... :censored2:

He didn't lose. So... whatever he did worked. Why risk hitting a wood into the green when you didn't have to. Maybe he should have laid up further to the right but what does it really matter. I'm sure he wasn't thinking about records. He was thinking about winning and he did what he needed to do.

He played to win...he didn't play for a record.

He didn't want to set the record because that would add fuel to the Tour thread that Erin Hills was too easy and he's friends with Mike Davis. :)

Those of us watching at home are the ones who think going for the record is something important. These guys just want the win I would think. Imagine if he does what you're proposing and somehow gets himself in trouble and loses the tournament with that lead... what would the title of your thread then be? Why take risks in that position????

This is golfwrx, so clearly the answer is Tiger Woods.

I've been in that situation with 2 holes left. It's not as easy as you think to keep the pedal down. At least he didn't blow it like I did.

The guy missed like zero greens all week and did everything short of tie Erin Hills to a chair, tell it to wait for Z to arrive, and violate it.

LOL, Wins US Open comfortably, lacks "killer instinct"

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He was just being respectful so the yahoos on GolfWRX didn't b!tch about his "record" in the "Wisconsin Open" on a "easy joke of a course". "80 yard wide fairways!!!"

He is forever in the record books as winning the 117th US Open. Probably all the record he needs....right now

But I bet a few years down the road he will realize that he missed a great opportunity to make the internet alias "disco111" happy, and it will grate at him, and likely ruin his game.

Didn't make me happy or unhappy, just thought it was kind of lacking that he laid up so to speak. If he was wanting to play safe and not shoot himself in the foot and blow the lead, why rear back and fire a 370+ yd drive. There was another thread that mentioned that the new breed of players (Rickie Fowler in particular), does not seem to have that killer instinct that so many attribute to the likes of Jack, Tiger, Arnie and Hogan. As has been pointed out, several times in the Erin Hills threads, the lack of green side trouble was none existent, so what trouble could he have gotten into by not going for it in 2. I don't honestly know if he didn't go for it, for he came up about 20 yds short. He either hit it weak or perhaps just backed off on the shot. Regardless, that 3rd shot was not a thing of beauty and just barely stayed up past the sloped front. The main reason for this post was to ask about that go for the throat mentality, that folks have elluded to in other threads and it does look like it was missing.

I've been in that situation with 2 holes left.

Been there my self, but standing in the fairway, after a monster drive with 3 strokes up and no real trouble to encounter is totally different than 2 holes left and need to play safe. Although, every time I do try to play safe, I usually screw it up.........

I think after 71 holes of going for the throat, maybe he just decided to go for the win.

Jack was a little less go for the throat than people think. He, and Tiger for that matter, often times were on the conservative side, letting other players make the mistakes especially in final rounds.

I don't remember him laying up...that was just the collection area short of the green, that he went for...I don't see the issue

Didn't make me happy or unhappy, just thought it was kind of lacking that he laid up so to speak. If he was wanting to play safe and not shoot himself in the foot and blow the lead, why rear back and fire a 370+ yd drive. There was another thread that mentioned that the new breed of players (Rickie Fowler in particular), does not seem to have that killer instinct that so many attribute to the likes of Jack, Tiger, Arnie and Hogan. As has been pointed out, several times in the Erin Hills threads, the lack of green side trouble was none existent, so what trouble could he have gotten into by not going for it in 2. I don't honestly know if he didn't go for it, for he came up about 20 yds short. He either hit it weak or perhaps just backed off on the shot. Regardless, that 3rd shot was not a thing of beauty and just barely stayed up past the sloped front. The main reason for this post was to ask about that go for the throat mentality, that folks have elluded to in other threads and it does look like it was missing.

 

I've been in that situation with 2 holes left.

 

Been there my self, but standing in the fairway, after a monster drive with 3 strokes up and no real trouble to encounter is totally different than 2 holes left and need to play safe. Although, every time I do try to play safe, I usually screw it up.........

You've been 3 up in the US Open with 2 hole left on Sunday? Impressive.

Yah, what a chop. Hope he's happy with his millions, hot girlfriend, youth, and us open trophy. Like any of that means anything for his stupid career and life.

stupid thread is stupid

 

Dude, Stick to surfing.......... :censored2:

Maybe you should stick to dancing lol

stupid thread is stupid

 

Dude, Stick to surfing.......... :censored2:

 

Maybe you should stick to dancing lol

Didn't make me happy or unhappy, just thought it was kind of lacking that he laid up so to speak. If he was wanting to play safe and not shoot himself in the foot and blow the lead, why rear back and fire a 370+ yd drive. There was another thread that mentioned that the new breed of players (Rickie Fowler in particular), does not seem to have that killer instinct that so many attribute to the likes of Jack, Tiger, Arnie and Hogan. As has been pointed out, several times in the Erin Hills threads, the lack of green side trouble was none existent, so what trouble could he have gotten into by not going for it in 2. I don't honestly know if he didn't go for it, for he came up about 20 yds short. He either hit it weak or perhaps just backed off on the shot. Regardless, that 3rd shot was not a thing of beauty and just barely stayed up past the sloped front. The main reason for this post was to ask about that go for the throat mentality, that folks have elluded to in other threads and it does look like it was missing.

 

I've been in that situation with 2 holes left.

 

Been there my self, but standing in the fairway, after a monster drive with 3 strokes up and no real trouble to encounter is totally different than 2 holes left and need to play safe. Although, every time I do try to play safe, I usually screw it up.........

 

You've been 3 up in the US Open with 2 hole left on Sunday? Impressive.

Lol. Muni Open. I'm Guessing b flight

The reason koepka didn't go for it....3 words....

Van de Velde

Go out on the highway and stand in front of an oncoming Mack Truck until its 10 feet away.

Dive to your right before it hits you.

Hold your hand out.

Is it shaking?

; )

This thread is definitely going in the pantheon of all timers.

Guys wins US Open with brutally efficient play, lack of chasing record on final hole is symbolic of entire generation's lack of "killer instinct".

I remember watching Kyle Stanley blow a 3 shot lead on the final hole at Torrey Pines a few years back and there were hundreds of experts on this site who knew exactly what he should have done. And he LOST that tournament

Poor Koepka wins a tournament and it's not enough.

well ill say it..... I for one wanted him to best Rorys record just so i didnt have to hear him mentioned anymore every year when the US open rolled around.... a Tie doesnt do that ... :taunt: ....so yes i was yelling at the TV " dont layup you dope"!

How much extra would he have made if he broke the record? $0 That's your answer why he didn't risk winning the US Open for a stupid record.

Nicklaus only had to beat a few guys ... Arnie pissed away more tourneys trying to set records than setting records ... All these unreal stories how great and greater Hogan was how did he ever lose ... Tiger was better than all three until roids and skinks ruined him

He said in an interview after the round, when asked the question that

he was't aware of the record until later.

The guy missed like zero greens all week and did everything short of tie Erin Hills to a chair, tell it to wait for Z to arrive, and violate it.

 

LOL, Wins US Open comfortably, lacks "killer instinct"

 

The Internet in 2017!

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So if Brooks Koepka played like us amateurs who like to risk it all to hit a green in two (not to mention he hit 3 wood off the tee, already a conservative play no matter how far it went) you think he would have broke the record? The key to scoring lower is to risk it all all the time? I'm surprised Mickelson doesn't win it every time he tees it up. Instead he just needs to get lucky every time. Do you see a pattern there? Playing for a birdie on a par 5 isn't that conservative when it's 663 from the black tees. I'm not sure what they were playing from. So 370 drive I'm guess downhill etc with a 290 approach shot even Koepka would had to have smashed it with precision and the 3rd shot was basically a bad result from the right approach. The shape of the hole also makes it very difficult to get on in two with it dog legging to the left and Koepka was nowhere near the dogleg. Short of the green was the crazy fescue and bunkers waiting. Any sane (smart, and not to mention very good at golf) person would play it as a 3 on hole.

I'd bet he didn't even know what the record is when standing on that 18th tee. And if he did, then he was certainly smart enough to know that pressing to break a record is foolish. If Koepka knows records, he'd probably also know about Palmer's 1966 push to break Hogan's scoring record and how that let Casper take the title from him. And Van de Velde as previously mentioned. As armchair quarterbacking goes, this one is way off.

So if Brooks Koepka played like us amateurs who like to risk it all to hit a green in two (not to mention he hit 3 wood off the tee, already a conservative play no matter how far it went) you think he would have broke the record? The key to scoring lower is to risk it all all the time? I'm surprised Mickelson doesn't win it every time he tees it up. Instead he just needs to get lucky every time. Do you see a pattern there? Playing for a birdie on a par 5 isn't that conservative when it's 663 from the black tees. I'm not sure what they were playing from. So 370 drive I'm guess downhill etc with a 290 approach shot even Koepka would had to have smashed it with precision and the 3rd shot was basically a bad result from the right approach. The shape of the hole also makes it very difficult to get on in two with it dog legging to the left and Koepka was nowhere near the dogleg. Short of the green was the crazy fescue and bunkers waiting. Any sane (smart, and not to mention very good at golf) person would play it as a 3 on hole.

everyone hit 3 wood off that Tee... it wasnt a layup move from the tee.. Rickie went 3 wood 3 iron into that green... justin thomas the day before went 3 wood 3 wood... driver brings the second set of bunkers into play on the right ...