Titleist 718 AP2 and AP3 Irons: Shot at the 2017 Quicken Loans National

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  • maowvmaowv Members Posts: 205 ✭✭
    dave_3 wrote:

    jdg2494 wrote:

    Golf_Hoff wrote:
    The AP3 are analogous to The Story of Goldilocks and the Three Bears. AP1 too big, AP2 too much of a players club, AP3 seem just right. Does anyone know when we can expect AP3 on the shelves?




    October 2017.....lame.....golf season is almost over in half the country at that time.....wish it was a Spring/Summer release.




    i know they usually launch their new products about then but they don't usually leak photos of new products this soon. it would be a mistake to launch in October when alot of the hype as disappeared




    Question for the Better Informed among us. Why do golf companies release new equipment late in the season, going into the offseason? This seems to counter-productive. For those of us who play in the northern half of the country, I'm not thinking about buying new golf equipment with a month left in the season before I put the clubs away for 4 months of winter. I want to buy golf equipment when I am thinking about golf season. I buy new skis in November so that I can use them for the coming season. Why has the golf industry gone a different path?
  • Shester24Shester24 Members Posts: 88 ✭✭
    maowv wrote:

    dave_3 wrote:

    jdg2494 wrote:

    Golf_Hoff wrote:
    The AP3 are analogous to The Story of Goldilocks and the Three Bears. AP1 too big, AP2 too much of a players club, AP3 seem just right. Does anyone know when we can expect AP3 on the shelves?




    October 2017.....lame.....golf season is almost over in half the country at that time.....wish it was a Spring/Summer release.




    i know they usually launch their new products about then but they don't usually leak photos of new products this soon. it would be a mistake to launch in October when alot of the hype as disappeared




    Question for the Better Informed among us. Why do golf companies release new equipment late in the season, going into the offseason? This seems to counter-productive. For those of us who play in the northern half of the country, I'm not thinking about buying new golf equipment with a month left in the season before I put the clubs away for 4 months of winter. I want to buy golf equipment when I am thinking about golf season. I buy new skis in November so that I can use them for the coming season. Why has the golf industry gone a different path?




    I would assume it is due to the holidays and people having a few months to convince their significant others to get them the clubs for Christmas haha
  • tsecortsecor Loading........ Members Posts: 4,292 ✭✭
    maowv wrote:

    dave_3 wrote:

    jdg2494 wrote:

    Golf_Hoff wrote:
    The AP3 are analogous to The Story of Goldilocks and the Three Bears. AP1 too big, AP2 too much of a players club, AP3 seem just right. Does anyone know when we can expect AP3 on the shelves?




    October 2017.....lame.....golf season is almost over in half the country at that time.....wish it was a Spring/Summer release.




    i know they usually launch their new products about then but they don't usually leak photos of new products this soon. it would be a mistake to launch in October when alot of the hype as disappeared




    Question for the Better Informed among us. Why do golf companies release new equipment late in the season, going into the offseason? This seems to counter-productive. For those of us who play in the northern half of the country, I'm not thinking about buying new golf equipment with a month left in the season before I put the clubs away for 4 months of winter. I want to buy golf equipment when I am thinking about golf season. I buy new skis in November so that I can use them for the coming season. Why has the golf industry gone a different path?
    The north represents a small portion of overall sales in the country...why are cars released at the end of the year too? its mainly because the business worlds financial calendar is different than the calendar you live by every day.
  • BlkNGldBlkNGld Members Posts: 2,912 ✭✭
    Warrick wrote:


    Did they just release 6 sets of new irons?



    Wow, TM or Callaway would get railed if they dumped 6 iron sets in a day.



    Nothing they make will ever see my bag.




    I think the difference for some is that in this case, all of your Titleist iron options for the next two years are laid out at once so there less a chance of something 'better' - or a better fit - coming out a few months later. If they announced AP1 and AP2 for example, then 6 months later AP3 appeared I think you'd hear some of the same directed at them.
  • gvogelgvogel Members Posts: 7,533 ✭✭
    Shester24 wrote:

    maowv wrote:

    dave_3 wrote:

    jdg2494 wrote:

    Golf_Hoff wrote:
    The AP3 are analogous to The Story of Goldilocks and the Three Bears. AP1 too big, AP2 too much of a players club, AP3 seem just right. Does anyone know when we can expect AP3 on the shelves?




    October 2017.....lame.....golf season is almost over in half the country at that time.....wish it was a Spring/Summer release.




    i know they usually launch their new products about then but they don't usually leak photos of new products this soon. it would be a mistake to launch in October when alot of the hype as disappeared




    Question for the Better Informed among us. Why do golf companies release new equipment late in the season, going into the offseason? This seems to counter-productive. For those of us who play in the northern half of the country, I'm not thinking about buying new golf equipment with a month left in the season before I put the clubs away for 4 months of winter. I want to buy golf equipment when I am thinking about golf season. I buy new skis in November so that I can use them for the coming season. Why has the golf industry gone a different path?




    I would assume it is due to the holidays and people having a few months to convince their significant others to get them the clubs for Christmas haha




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  • hankmoodyhankmoody Title Member Members Posts: 1,797 ✭✭
    I think they look great. I like they got rid of the red in the AP1. The AP3 is new, and that's good. It's a pretty diverse, and slick looking line up. I think they did a great job.



    Now they need to focus on TM and Cally and all the rest chipping away at their ball monopoly:)
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  • calogecaloge Members Posts: 448 ✭✭
    hankmoody wrote:


    I think they look great. I like they got rid of the red in the AP1. The AP3 is new, and that's good. It's a pretty diverse, and slick looking line up. I think they did a great job.



    Now they need to focus on TM and Cally and all the rest chipping away at their ball monopoly:)




    its true. All this talk that the magical tp5 was created by merlin specifically to be immune to the wind cant be helping things.
  • cdeezcdeez Eagle, ColoradoMembers Posts: 112 ✭✭
    edited Jun 27, 2017 #129
    pretty excited for this release. I am very interested in the AP3. As someone who plays a 716 ap1 4 iron, 714 ap2 5-pw and 716 ap2 GW i'm pretty much game for whatever works best. Playing at high altitude (7000+ ft above sea level) I need a gap wedge, but when i head back east (as i will tomorrow) i generally pull my gap and pw in favor of a 670 pw @ 48* and an extra hybrid.... but i digress.



    hoping the ap3 lofts look like: 20, 23, 26, 29, 33, 37, 41, 45, 50. So they could be potentially blended from ap3 3-5, ap2 6-8 and mb 9-pw - 20, 23, 26, 30, 34, 38, 43, 47 sounds really nice.



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  • robelinksrobelinks Members Posts: 329
    RobS14526 wrote:

    robelinks wrote:

    Pomps wrote:


    I've played CBs for four years now and love them, but this makes me love them less:





    "The 718 CB, however, is a much different club. In its previous iteration, the tungsten in the 3- through 7-irons was covered by a stainless-steel cap. Now the tungsten extends out to the edge of the club. This provides more weight and allows for the CG to be moved slightly toward the heel for a little more draw bias on the long and mid irons."




    Agreed!



    Why, on God's green earth, would you make a players club with a draw bias?!?


    I wouldn't worry about the draw bias until we have more information. My guess is that based on feedback from their staff they are moving the bias more towards the hosel, which would be familiar to people who have been playing mb/cb pre-tungsten.




    Makes sense and you're right - best not to rush to judgement.



    Especially before I have even hit them... Haha
  • JonnyKrasnodarJonnyKrasnodar Members Posts: 1,848 ✭✭
    What or who are the AP3's supposed to be for? Even worse looking than normal for brand bland.
  •  SwooshLT SwooshLT Members Posts: 7,062 ✭✭


    What or who are the AP3's supposed to be for? Even worse looking than normal for brand bland.




    Jason Bohn has a full set....launch and forgiveness
  • rsh0308rsh0308 Members Posts: 364 ✭✭
    Hondabuff wrote:

    derBremser wrote:


    yes i think so, it seem´s so that the blade length of the AP2´s are smaller than the CB and MB.



    From left to right: MB, CB AP3, AP2, AP1 and T-MB...



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    Looking at the heel/toe length, the AP2's are the shortest. Those might be harder to hit then the MB's.


    I actually kind of like it. The shape of a compact iron like the Cobra mb of recent years is super appealing to my eye even though I don't have the consistency to really bag them. If they have the small look but packed with more tech and forgiveness I could get really motivated.
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  • youngunz5840youngunz5840 Members Posts: 2,341 ✭✭
    I will take a combo ap3 4-6 ap2 7-w set with Nippon 125x please
  • SkeeterfireSkeeterfire Members Posts: 125 ✭✭
    Yeah, thinking I may be moving from Mizz MP59's to AP2's. Great looking clubs.
  • rymail00rymail00 Members Posts: 6,705 ✭✭
    Pomps wrote:


    I know my vision isn't perfect, but do these Ap2 look less offset? If so, these will be in my bag day one!




    It definitely appears to have less offset. But the pics are always shot at an angle that usually shows less offset. But I've tried looking at my 716 AP2's from the angle in the pic (yup I've got to much time on my hands at night sometimes) and it appears to have less offset. I don't mind the offset on the 716 AP2's but if the 718 has less it would be nice IMO.



    Also seeing Ian's initial pics I was slightly under whelmed by the look of them sitting in the bag, granted it's the last part of consideration in buying irons but I'm the small majority that liked the look of the 716's. But the Golfwrx "spotted pics" changed that completely. My 716's are beat to ****, and I'll probably get the 718 with i95 shafts when their released, they look that good from address (plus I can't demo them where I live anyways).
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  • deltapapatangodeltapapatango Members Posts: 443 ✭✭
    716 look better to me than anything. Interesting to see shaft options coming up.
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  • minteqminteq Members Posts: 2,856 ✭✭
    AP2s look really good to me, curious as to what the price point will be.
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  • rymail00rymail00 Members Posts: 6,705 ✭✭
    duffer987 wrote:

    BlkNGld wrote:

    duffer987 wrote:

    vman wrote:


    If AP3 comes between AP1 and AP2 shouldn't it have been AP1.5. image/dntknw.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':dntknw:' />




    LOL, indeed.

    When Titleist started the AP line they obviously didn't envision they could make another iron head for a market that doesn't exist, but now they do image/wink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' />

    It's no different to what BMW, Audi have done in the automotive industry really. They created a model that no one was really asking for, but because of the marque people will buy it.



    The only question is, are they really taking market share away from the competition or just selling a slight variation to an existing model to a customer who would have gone with one of those other options anyways, if the new one didn't exist.




    I think a number have been asking for something like this, in different forms. It just may not be something that you've wanted.



    Just about every SGI line, be it G series, AP1, or Cally's X series has some people that would like something with a thinner top line and less offset, but not quite an I series/AP2/X Pro, respectively.



    Of course we don't know if this club is meant to be a distance monster type of club or now, so we'll have to wait for the full story. Given its styled differently there is probably something different about it than just an AP1/AP2 tweener.




    IDK - I don't think the AP1 is an SGI in the vein of the G series or an M1, but that next notch down like Cally's regular Apex. That said, I've not had a good look at them recently.



    If you believe the Titleist marketing they've made the AP2 as 'forgiving' as the previous models incarnation of the AP1 - I know they explicitly stated that with the 714, don't know about subsequent ones. So if an AP2 is as forgiving as a previous AP1, then why does anyone need an AP3? Unless they just want a non-forged marginally bigger/smaller clubhead?



    Cynical me, just sees it as a way for Titleist to further bump up the price of the AP2, while slotting the AP3 into the old AP2's price point.






    I think know what your referring to. I believe the 716 AP2 were to have the same forgiveness as the 710 AP1. I don't believe the 716 AP2 had the forgiveness of the 714 AP1, but a much older AP1 model. I own the 716 AP2 and found them be a lot more forgiving then my 710 Ap2 with the same shaft IMHO.



    But with that I can't see the 718 being much more forgiving then 716. Personally the 716 AP2 has been the best irons I've ever played from playabliity to forgiveness, just an awesome blend of both that look great at address and feel have great feel.
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  • Zip-in-ZZip-in-Z Z-Z's First Love - 1970 Members Posts: 838 ✭✭
    Like what Cdeez suggested ... "Potentially blend a setup of ap3 3-5, ap2 6-8 and mb 9-pw " would be nice.



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  • rymail00rymail00 Members Posts: 6,705 ✭✭
    Wonder if they'll do a smoke version at initial release, or wait till sales slow down and then release the smoke version....?
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  • gvogelgvogel Members Posts: 7,533 ✭✭
    SwooshLT wrote:



    What or who are the AP3's supposed to be for? Even worse looking than normal for brand bland.




    Jason Bohn has a full set....launch and forgiveness




    For what they are, they look relatively uncluttered in Jason's bag. I like the look.
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  • sheldonjhackersheldonjhacker Members Posts: 3,711 ✭✭
    gvogel wrote:

    SwooshLT wrote:



    What or who are the AP3's supposed to be for? Even worse looking than normal for brand bland.




    Jason Bohn has a full set....launch and forgiveness




    For what they are, they look relatively uncluttered in Jason's bag. I like the look.


    pic?
  • JasonFLJasonFL Under My Left Foot Members Posts: 1,044
    tsecor wrote:

    JasonFL wrote:

    DTown3011 wrote:


    Ap2 looks great. Still confused how AP3 fits in lineup.




    Direct competition for the CF16, which are selling so much that they're on back order.
    they are on BO because they barely produce any sets. Its almost a fully custom order so there really is no back order on these sets
    I've been waiting for about a month. Just got pushed back to July 10th.



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  • GC70GC70 What's Next? ClubWRX Posts: 7,554 ✭✭
    Ap2's look a lot smaller! The jury is still out on the Ap3's.

    Hopefully Titleist will offer most shafts at no up charge?
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    gvogel wrote:

    SwooshLT wrote:



    What or who are the AP3's supposed to be for? Even worse looking than normal for brand bland.




    Jason Bohn has a full set....launch and forgiveness




    For what they are, they look relatively uncluttered in Jason's bag. I like the look.


    pic?




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    GC70 wrote:


    Hopefully Titleist will offer most shafts at no up charge?




    Yea, hope is about all it is...no chance.
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  • derBremserderBremser Members Posts: 35 ✭✭


    gvogel wrote:

    SwooshLT wrote:



    What or who are the AP3's supposed to be for? Even worse looking than normal for brand bland.




    Jason Bohn has a full set....launch and forgiveness




    For what they are, they look relatively uncluttered in Jason's bag. I like the look.


    pic?




    Pics are posted on the Team Titleist site, including Bohn's clubs.




    could you please post a link? I don´t find it.
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  • eRock_RenoeRock_Reno eRock_Reno Members Posts: 143
    As someone who looks down at the 716 AP2 everyday, it looks like they may have ever so slightly trimmed some edges down and slimmed up the new 718 AP2. It doesn't look like the bottom edge is as bevelled, it looks more square or sharp. The top line has sharper lines as well and isn't as rounded off. It could just be the pictures as well. Really looking forward to hitting these. Probably pick up a set this winter. Personally, I would prefer them to use the DG AMT as the stock option. This shaft really fits my swing well. Love the lighter weight in the longer irons and the classic DG weight in the short irons gives a nice feel and great trajectory.
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  • derBremserderBremser Members Posts: 35 ✭✭
    okay thanks, i know this picture, and i read, that hi will try them out on the course, and than decide T-MB or AP3.
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