B.2 blade is not expected to be as forgiving as the 2.1 mallet -- They did their best, but just the design parameters of a blade don't allow as much as can be done on a mallet in that regard.
I am waiting (somewhat patiently) for my B.2 to be delivered, so I can compare it to my current Reno 2.1T. Oh who am I kidding, hurry up and get here!
When did you order yours? Ordered mine March 6. Hopefully get it soon.
Don't get me wrong, I think MOI is somewhat over-rated on putters.
But has anyone actually tested the MOI of these putters? Not just that you tried it and found it "forgiving" but actually tested it. What's the number?
Because I have been looking into these more since the B2 came out, but the way the shaft goes into the center of the head and the head spins very freely and easily around the shaft makes me think the MOI is actually really low. Doesn't seem like there would be much resistance to twisting at all.
Has anyone had good luck with getting a good fit to this putter using remote video fitting option rather than an in person fitting? Thanks.
I got one of the factory seconds from the bay (which were already boxed up and ready to ship, per my correspondence with them); and amazingly it was delivered via UPS Ground THE NEXT DAY. SF Bay Area reasonably close to Reno, NV, but the initial shipping info was given as 5 to 7 days, and instead it took TWO. Stoked to get it. Now just have to start feeling better and have the shelter-in-place order lifted so I can go try it.
Yes, it works GREAT !
Thanks for the info!
Here is what Sam Hahn (CEO of L.A.B. Golf) answered in the Q&A session earlier this week on Golf WRX:
We are finding that for avid golfers, the remote fitting is actually MORE accurate. We have had no issues at all with the remote fitting and a handful with in person fittings. The Fitting instrument for in person is great but a lot of times when people are under the pressure of time for the fitting itself, they start to "chase" and question their own set up. With the remote fitting, you are in your own home with your own putter. If we see anything egregious, we get in contact and have you shoot another video but this is rare.
Not sure I understand the physics of your question. If you are essentially hitting the ball with the end of the shaft (center-shafted) wouldn't that be the most stable way to hit a ball? Mounting a shaft further away from that midpoint inherently creates torque, does it not?
I heard at the 3 week mark that mine was done and would be shipped. I received it about 4 days later in the Midwest.
I did the remote fitting and am very satisfied with the fitting. Sent in the video, he thought my specs were high in lie angle and he wanted a better view of the putter shaft. Or shot the video and sent in and we settled on 76 degree upright at 37” for my set up.
I did the online fitting for my first one and exchanged some emails with Bill at the time. It worked perfectly for me.
If you can find one to try I strongly suggest it.
I committed to it for the entire 2017 season and used it and really, really liked it. Had the "Reno" now called the DF. Then for 2018 got a Reno 2.1. The only thing that I didn't like over time was the cheapo grip and I see the grips now are a ton nicer, IMO. Still, regular playing companions would tell me they didn't think I was putting as well as I had with my previous putter, but I sure thought I was.
That being said, my love affair lasted only until June of 2018. I started falling out of love on our trip to Scotland that summer and on slower greens, for me, started having some issues with speed and feel when hitting the aluminum head on long putts especially (probably all my fault, btw). One of the caddies loved it. Another one called it a "space machine", lol. Shortly after I got back I was killing time at a golf store in Des Moines and trying all the new putters out that summer and didn't like any of them, then saw a deeply discounted Odyssey Milled RSX V Line Fang in a corner and started hitting putts with it and it fit perfectly and I was making everything. Bought it. Hit with the DF and the Odyssey on a green and haven't hit a putt with either of my DFs since, but they are still lounging around here somewhere doing pretty much nothing (like me this weekend). For whatever reason, my putting overall improved quite a bit when I switched (honeymoon period I figured and that season was cut short with elbow issues), but last summer was best I've putted in a long, long time so for now (!) I've found another "forever" putter.
Some interesting observations when TXG tested the putter:
Agree, those guys really get in to the weeds on a discussion. Interestingly, they normally do not like center shafted putters but they really liked the measurable results they were seeing in their test
Anyone have both the mallet and blade? Is there a standout you have for any reason? Also I know the forgiveness of the blade is less than the mallet but what is the blade forgiveness vs any other OTR mallet?
Ya have both, get the mallet much much easier to aim, ball is so far left, you will not focus ball instead lowest point of arc which opens putterface about 1.5 degree
That's what I figured with the ball position most probably don't notice anything behind the shaft on the mallet.
I got a DF 2.1 in January. I did a remote fitting and I like what I see so far. I like the roll I get from it and have not had a problem with distance control.
DF newbie here. My co-worker picked one up a couple weeks ago and his first round out was one of the most incredible putting displays I've ever seen. Being an Edel disciple of sorts I had to roll his DF on the practice green after the round and I was blown away at the feel, alignment and how well the putts stayed on line. That's not to say I don't love my Edel or that it doesn't perform well for me but the DF almost seemed like cheating. Figured I had to try one for myself to see if this thing really works or not.
I ended up with a 34" long, 69* lie angle redhead! I haven't seen the course yet but will get in a couple rounds this week. Just on the practice green in the garage I can already see how this thing holds the line with ease, though.
I average 33-34 putts per round on average so if I can shave off 2-3 per round I'll label this a success.
Anyone find a trick to get speed down? That is what led me away from the first one I had(Reno 2.1). I believe in the tech and am looking at the Blad now to try them again.
Being a lefty I didnt like the grip (lack of) options for me as a P2/Flat cat fan. So the Blad would allow me to use the P2 grip since the shaft offset is so minimal
Online fitting is very good, I sent my video in and they had questions and asked me to send a second video, Matt and Sam from L.A.B. Gave me a call and we discussed, absolutely great customer service. They definitely got my fitting correct.
Years ago I had the original DF Reno and didn’t care for it at all, decided to give it a try again, I have the DF 2.1 w/ BGT Stability Tour Shaft and love the putter, it took a little practice to get the speed down w/ putter, but I’m glad I have gave DF another shot, putting very well with it, I have had the putter for a month. A week ago, I also ordered the DF Blade 2 With the BGT Stability Tour shaft and am looking forward to testing it out against my DF 2.1 Mallet. The DF 2.1 definitely feels better in my opinion that the original DF Reno.
What are your thoughts on the stability tour shaft in the 2.1?
I love the shaft! I live close to BGT headquarters and have been there twice to be fit and tested on Quintic. I am a big believer in the technology, both from L.A.B. Golf and especially BGT. This has been the best combination putter/shaft I have ever had. I have noticed a considerable improvement in my putting since going to the 2.1 w/ stability tour shaft, especially inside 10 ft.
Just ordered a B.2; very intrigued and looking to simplify putting. I love Anser 2 shapes but sometimes get in a weird place regarding my ongoing ‘do I forward press or not?’ internal debate!
Anyone compare a B2 with a Seemore MFGP?
Being center-shafted, they would likely have less inherent torque than a heel-shafted putter, but I don't believe they are specifically lie angle balanced.
So now that you've had your DF for about 5 weeks, what do you think? Make you want to throw rocks at your Edel?
Simple question, how does the DF2.1 feel on contact off center? Is it still a solid feeling or do you get a dull kinda impact off the face?
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