Tiger Woods WITB 2017

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  • dfegan358dfegan358 Members Posts: 96
    Milled grind wedges at Hero?

    Surely he could have a set of wedges to his grind spec sorted by now

    If he still has Nike wedges at Hero, he may not be the biggest fan of the TM wedges on offer
  • fillwelixfillwelix Members Posts: 1,271 ✭✭
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    dfegan358 wrote:


    Milled grind wedges at Hero?

    Surely he could have a set of wedges to his grind spec sorted by now

    If he still has Nike wedges at Hero, he may not be the biggest fan of the TM wedges on offer


    Could go either way IMO, since the surgery he's had the most time to chip so he conceivably has had the most time to practice with TM wedges as opposed to their irons, but he may still want to tee it up with clubs he's familiar with (irons, wedges, putter) because it's his first tourny in a while.



    My guess is he can basically play whatever he wants until the masters, which is when TM will require him to play 13 TM clubs
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  • Holy MosesHoly Moses Members Posts: 10,497 ✭✭
    fillwelix wrote:

    Holy Moses wrote:

    DRRicks wrote:



    Does Tiger even have a full bag contract with TM? He's already using a bridgestone ball so i'm thinking it's only the woods will be TM.




    All articles stated his deal was for 13 clubs.




    The question is does Tiger have to play TaylorMade clubs for non-PGA Tour events or even if he does, is TaylorMade giving him so leeway until next year




    That's my guess, they're giving him some leeway until the next calendar year. They probably have a hard stop for him at Augusta, where he'll have to be playing TM clubs at The Masters.




    The hard stop would have to be his first tournament next year. He’d have three months to get used to them.
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  • JimvJimv Members Posts: 608 ✭✭
    sandy wrote:

    Jimv wrote:

    Bomber_ wrote:

    cvhookem63 wrote:



    Honestly, they couldn't just build him a set of the new blades and put "Tiger Proto" on it? I'm sorry but this is just one of several reasons why this guy is just hard to like. Rory said in that recent podcast "I really don't want to mess with all of that prototype stuff. I don't need something made especially for me. Just give me something that works and I'll play it." Well said.




    You must not have been following Tiger's equipment very closely then. This is not new. Everything he had from Nike was custom built just for him (lower cc head driver with glued hosel and irons made specifically for him) and it took A LOT to get him to switch to any type of new equipment. He's hardly the only Tour player that treats his equipment this way either. How much custom Callaway equipment has Phil had made specifically for him over the years?




    But Tiger is "hard to like", so additional scrutiny needs to be applied.




    Hard to like? I love Tiger. It was a privalge to be alive and watch him play golf the way he did. He held the titles to all four majors at one time. Who else can say that..........



    The shots he hit..... The puts he made.... Him and Rocco on Monday playoff for US Open. Who really worked that day?




    Bobby Jones held all the major titles in the same year as an amateur in 1930.




    Not taking anything away from Bobby, but two of his majors were the Britsh and US Amatures, which are replaced today with the Masters and the PGA.
  • DRRicksDRRicks Banned Posts: 2,444 ✭✭


    Do you really think TM can tell him what to do.? I mean. If he doesn't play TM irons at the hero and they try to reprimand him for it he can alwasy say " I'm not playing junk " which makes them look terrible. Sure it may cost him money. But when you're dealing with someone who has it to blow. You learn to be careful how you handle them. TM will not win a equipment contract battle with tiger. Not in the court of public opinion. They know this and will bow to whatever he wants because of it.




    If he signed a contract, yes.
  • TheMoneyShotTheMoneyShot ***FIGJAM/Twirl of Doom*** Members Posts: 30,765 ✭✭
    We need the higher ups at TM to post some details in this thread... April is a long time away...
  • PigemsPigems Members Posts: 10,888 ✭✭
    DRRicks wrote:



    Do you really think TM can tell him what to do.? I mean. If he doesn't play TM irons at the hero and they try to reprimand him for it he can alwasy say " I'm not playing junk " which makes them look terrible. Sure it may cost him money. But when you're dealing with someone who has it to blow. You learn to be careful how you handle them. TM will not win a equipment contract battle with tiger. Not in the court of public opinion. They know this and will bow to whatever he wants because of it.




    If he signed a contract, yes.




    I’d be willing to bet Tiger made sure he had outs built into it.
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  • kerila07kerila07 Members Posts: 249 ✭✭
    Probably safe to say that Taylormade is being cautious why would they want to sink more money into marketing and development if he ends up only playing in his charity outings. Doubt they will force anything on him and see how it goes
  • Holy MosesHoly Moses Members Posts: 10,497 ✭✭
    kerila07 wrote:


    Probably safe to say that Taylormade is being cautious why would they want to sink more money into marketing and development if he ends up only playing in his charity outings. Doubt they will force anything on him and see how it goes




    While true, reports are that Tiger’s contract with TaylorMade was heavily dependent on the number of tournaments he plays. Tiger probably got very little money from TaylorMade last year.
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  • bladehunterbladehunter Today was a good day... south carolinaMembers Posts: 27,043 ✭✭
    DRRicks wrote:



    Do you really think TM can tell him what to do.? I mean. If he doesn't play TM irons at the hero and they try to reprimand him for it he can alwasy say " I'm not playing junk " which makes them look terrible. Sure it may cost him money. But when you're dealing with someone who has it to blow. You learn to be careful how you handle them. TM will not win a equipment contract battle with tiger. Not in the court of public opinion. They know this and will bow to whatever he wants because of it.




    If he signed a contract, yes.






    So you think TM would sue tiger if he played different irons and wedges until they got him some that suited ? No chance. Would be suicide.
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  • Findog88Findog88 Members Posts: 52 ✭✭
    Pretty sure he's going to be using irons that are labelled TM. Those TGR protos are going to be "produced" by TM one way or another. And I'm relatively certain that they will have wedges for him built to his specs that he will be using. He's going to be using 13 clubs labelled TM, regardless of what they actually are. And the average joe won't know the difference.
  • DRRicksDRRicks Banned Posts: 2,444 ✭✭

    DRRicks wrote:



    Do you really think TM can tell him what to do.? I mean. If he doesn't play TM irons at the hero and they try to reprimand him for it he can alwasy say " I'm not playing junk " which makes them look terrible. Sure it may cost him money. But when you're dealing with someone who has it to blow. You learn to be careful how you handle them. TM will not win a equipment contract battle with tiger. Not in the court of public opinion. They know this and will bow to whatever he wants because of it.




    If he signed a contract, yes.






    So you think TM would sue tiger if he played different irons and wedges until they got him some that suited ? No chance. Would be suicide.




    No, I don’t think it would be necessary. TW knows how contracts work...and only him and TM know what it states. But, if it’s required of him to have TM clubs in play, he will. It’s really that simple.
  • kerila07kerila07 Members Posts: 249 ✭✭
    Holy Moses wrote:
    kerila07 wrote:


    Probably safe to say that Taylormade is being cautious why would they want to sink more money into marketing and development if he ends up only playing in his charity outings. Doubt they will force anything on him and see how it goes




    While true, reports are that Tiger’s contract with TaylorMade was heavily dependent on the number of tournaments he plays. Tiger probably got very little money from TaylorMade last year.






    The guy has made over a billion dollars I'm guessing the value of the contract is meaningless to him since this is probably his last chance I'm sure he will do whatever he wants to.
  • thedurtydurdenthedurtydurden Members Posts: 272 ✭✭
    I haven't looked back at any of the articles, but I believe I remember reading him saying basically something like he "was working with TM on making irons" and he would "put them in the bag when they met his requirements" so who knows when that would be. That basically told me there was no timeline for the clubs to go in the bag, but they would be there eventually.



    I could be wrong, but that's a very Tiger-clause type of thing in a contract.
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  • bladehunterbladehunter Today was a good day... south carolinaMembers Posts: 27,043 ✭✭
    DRRicks wrote:


    DRRicks wrote:



    Do you really think TM can tell him what to do.? I mean. If he doesn't play TM irons at the hero and they try to reprimand him for it he can alwasy say " I'm not playing junk " which makes them look terrible. Sure it may cost him money. But when you're dealing with someone who has it to blow. You learn to be careful how you handle them. TM will not win a equipment contract battle with tiger. Not in the court of public opinion. They know this and will bow to whatever he wants because of it.




    If he signed a contract, yes.






    So you think TM would sue tiger if he played different irons and wedges until they got him some that suited ? No chance. Would be suicide.




    No, I don’t think it would be necessary. TW knows how contracts work...and only him and TM know what it states. But, if it’s required of him to have TM clubs in play, he will. It’s really that simple.






    Lol. Guess we will see soon enough.
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  • Holy MosesHoly Moses Members Posts: 10,497 ✭✭
    kerila07 wrote:

    Holy Moses wrote:
    kerila07 wrote:


    Probably safe to say that Taylormade is being cautious why would they want to sink more money into marketing and development if he ends up only playing in his charity outings. Doubt they will force anything on him and see how it goes




    While true, reports are that Tiger’s contract with TaylorMade was heavily dependent on the number of tournaments he plays. Tiger probably got very little money from TaylorMade last year.






    The guy has made over a billion dollars I'm guessing the value of the contract is meaningless to him since this is probably his last chance I'm sure he will do whatever he wants to.




    While the monetary value might have been little because he was hurt and not a huge impact on his net worth, Tiger still picks the sponsors that pay the most because his pride says he must. “I’m Tiger Woods and I command the big $ still.” Why else would he sign an iron and wedge deal with TaylorMade when he didn’t care for what they currently had? Why did he take the money and fly to Dubai last year? Tiger’s ego.
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  • TheMoneyShotTheMoneyShot ***FIGJAM/Twirl of Doom*** Members Posts: 30,765 ✭✭
    TM will produce a LE set of TM/TW blades like Titleist did years ago. I’ll be one of the stupid ones who buy them too...
  • noodle3872noodle3872 Chilliwack B.C. CanadaMembers Posts: 2,711 ✭✭
    Findog88 wrote:


    Pretty sure he's going to be using irons that are labelled TM. Those TGR protos are going to be "produced" by TM one way or another. And I'm relatively certain that they will have wedges for him built to his specs that he will be using. He's going to be using 13 clubs labelled TM, regardless of what they actually are. And the average joe won't know the difference.




    With computerized milling machines, replicating Tiger's irons and wedges would not be overly difficult.
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  • ago33ago33 Members Posts: 2,173 ✭✭
    noodle3872 wrote:

    Findog88 wrote:


    Pretty sure he's going to be using irons that are labelled TM. Those TGR protos are going to be "produced" by TM one way or another. And I'm relatively certain that they will have wedges for him built to his specs that he will be using. He's going to be using 13 clubs labelled TM, regardless of what they actually are. And the average joe won't know the difference.




    With computerized milling machines, replicating Tiger's irons and wedges would not be overly difficult.




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  • Holy MosesHoly Moses Members Posts: 10,497 ✭✭
    noodle3872 wrote:

    Findog88 wrote:


    Pretty sure he's going to be using irons that are labelled TM. Those TGR protos are going to be "produced" by TM one way or another. And I'm relatively certain that they will have wedges for him built to his specs that he will be using. He's going to be using 13 clubs labelled TM, regardless of what they actually are. And the average joe won't know the difference.




    With computerized milling machines, replicating Tiger's irons and wedges would not be overly difficult.




    Bob Parsons completely agrees
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  • BottleCapBottleCap Members Posts: 1,388 ✭✭
    noodle3872 wrote:

    Findog88 wrote:


    Pretty sure he's going to be using irons that are labelled TM. Those TGR protos are going to be "produced" by TM one way or another. And I'm relatively certain that they will have wedges for him built to his specs that he will be using. He's going to be using 13 clubs labelled TM, regardless of what they actually are. And the average joe won't know the difference.




    With computerized milling machines, replicating Tiger's irons and wedges would not be overly difficult.




    They'll just subcontract it out to Mike Taylor
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  • tbrumbeloe13tbrumbeloe13 GeorgiaMembers Posts: 706 ✭✭
    BottleCap wrote:
    noodle3872 wrote:

    Findog88 wrote:


    Pretty sure he's going to be using irons that are labelled TM. Those TGR protos are going to be "produced" by TM one way or another. And I'm relatively certain that they will have wedges for him built to his specs that he will be using. He's going to be using 13 clubs labelled TM, regardless of what they actually are. And the average joe won't know the difference.




    With computerized milling machines, replicating Tiger's irons and wedges would not be overly difficult.




    They'll just subcontract it out to Mike Taylor
    TM have already been in contact with Mike Taylor. Don’t remember exactly where I saw it, might have been Tomo on Twitter. That was a couple months ago. Apparently, they were consulting with MT to talk about Tiger’s preferences, etc. Don’t think clubs were being produced yet.
  • jonn443jonn443 Jonnystx Members Posts: 4,622 ✭✭
    I foresee the TGR (Nike) blades in play.



    (And they look sweeeeet and soft.)
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  • North Shore Golfer21North Shore Golfer21 Members Posts: 318 ✭✭
    So are the Nike VR Pro blades.
  • TheMoneyShotTheMoneyShot ***FIGJAM/Twirl of Doom*** Members Posts: 30,765 ✭✭
    Bring on the TM/TGR blades...
  • jonn443jonn443 Jonnystx Members Posts: 4,622 ✭✭


    So are the Nike VR Pro blades.




    The TGR irons look more "meaty"...MP-5 style. Perhaps slightly more forgiveness due to the thicker back.
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  • DickieThonDickieThon Members Posts: 1,100 ✭✭
    Pretty sure he said that when he signed with TaylorMade he was going to be involved with designing a set. So at least to me that means he’s probably got TM building a set that looks like all the other irons he’s liked over the years.
  • dfegan358dfegan358 Members Posts: 96
    Read an article yesterday, basically there has been no discussion at all between Tiger and Taylormade on irons yet. He hasn't approached them and it's up to him to initiate. Got the impression from the article there was a feeling it was all a bit too quiet on the Tiger and Taylormade advertising/branding front.



    Maybe he will just TGR Nike irons and TM woods for the next while. Wouldn't surprise me. I am a little surprised TM wouldn't have been pushing to get him irons to his spec as soon as possible and get them in the bag for hero
  • SigmaKyle31987SigmaKyle31987 TW's #1 Fan! Members Posts: 110 ✭✭
    Wonder if he’ll still have his Nike Wedges in the bag in a couple weeks or if he’ll have TGR Wedges instead?
  • dfegan358dfegan358 Members Posts: 96
    Be interesting. I can understand why he hasn't changed full set of irons by the time Hero comes around, I feel it's strange if he will still have Nike wedges! Been chipping for a while now so has had plenty of time to dial in TM wedges in his back yard.



    Are TM not going to put some pressure on TW to play their clubs after signing him?
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