Who can REALLY tell the difference in brands of golfballs?

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  • 18thbunker18thbunker Members Posts: 337 ✭✭
    One particular ball that stands very different frm other premium balls.....Titleist ProV. This ball spins way too much, my game can not control the spin. I rarely hit a slice or wild hooks with the driver......but with the spin on this ball....it happens. Around the greens.....same way. If I put a left to right spin....ball with hit the green and go right quite a bit.....same with right to left.....ball will go left.



    With other premium balls......can not really tell the difference except the feel.
    [font=comic sans ms,cursive]driver - Titleist 915 D3 10.5[/font]
    [font=comic sans ms,cursive]fairway - Ping I25 18 degree 5 wood
    hybrid - Ben Hogan VKTR 19 & 23
    Irons - Mizuno MP68 3-PW
    wedges Mizuno MP-T5 50-58
    putter - Ping Sigma G Doon[/font]
  • MBBGMBBG Members Posts: 1,459 ✭✭
    edited Oct 25, 2017 #33
    Even as a higher single digit capper, I can tell the difference in feel, approach spin, greenside spin, and launch height between various premium balls. I understand that there are people who cannot, and I accept that.



    With that in mind, I find it hard to believe that guys approaching scratch or better would not be immediately able to tell the differences between premium balls.



    There are people here who cannot discern any difference and readily project their lack of perceptiveness onto all others. I don’t agree at all that a person has to be a pro to be able to realistically perceive small performance/feel differences in premium balls.
    TaylorMade M5 TI 10.5 Tensei Pro Orange 
    Taylormade M5 15* 3W Tensei Pro Orange 
    PXG Gen 2 17* Hybrid 
    Srixon U45 23* with Aerotech i95 S
    Srixon 585/785 combo set with Modus 105 
    Vokey Cold Forged 51/56*, PM Grind 60* Modus 125 Wedge
    Odyssey Works SaberTooth

  • Matt JMatt J Members Posts: 8,723 ✭✭
    Most real sticks can tell the difference between the higher X compression ball and the lower, but probably not brand to brand between the premiums. Maybe by dimple pattern and finish for someone who is real into it. If you took all the brand markings off of the Srixon Z star, ProV1, TP5, Bridgestone 330, I doubt many could distinguish them.
  • brew4eaglebrew4eagle VAMembers Posts: 2,725 ✭✭
    I can definitely tell the difference between balls having played a lot of different types. Now, given a blind test I couldn't determine the specific ball. But if given unmarked V1 and V1x, or similar make/models, I'm very confident I could tell which is which from driver thru to putter
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    Adams a7 19*
    PING G25 23*
    Nike VR Forged Pro Combo 5-P
    Titleist SM6 52.08F, 58.08M



  • tngolf22tngolf22 Robert Members Posts: 397
    I'm a 4 hcp, but I'm the type of single-digit who doesn't hit it solid very often. I just have a consistent swing pattern that allows me to hit plenty of fairways and greens.



    Then there are guys who may be higher single digits but they have more swing speed and hit the ball more solid and more often, just have bigger misses left or right, or both. Those are the guys I would think could better tell different ball types apart.



    I can tell the difference in different ball categories (difference between 2-piece surlyn and 3-4 piece urethane, or the 60 and below compression soft balls), but other than that, no. A ProV1, V1x, Bridgestone 330 series, MG C4, and other urethane balls all feel the same to me. The Callaway Supersoft and Wilson Duo feel the same.



    I've shot my record score with the V1x, qualified and played in a state mid-am with the C4, won two gross match play events with the Supersoft and won another tournament including an eagle and hole-in-one with the Duo. The type of ball I play doesn't seem to make a difference in score. If I were to suggest a ball I would tell anyone to play what they chip and putt best with.



    I could probably take my putter and after an hour feel slight differences between the ProV1 and V1X or the Supersoft and Duo, but that's it. I hardly ever lose a ball but I still like the find the best deals so other than finding a good lost premium ball on the course I usually play the MG C4 and since they now come in yellow I play them year round.
  • Bad9Bad9 Members Posts: 4,217 ✭✭
    A guy I know(7-10HCI) said to me last year "I need the spin that Titleist gives me"



    I guess he can tell. He plays the yellow NXT Tour S which is renowned for its spin characteristics.
    Ping G400 10.5°/Xcaliber SL r flex
    Callaway Heavenwood Xcaliber SL r flex
    Maltby KE4 Tour 25°/Xcaliber HY r flex

    Maltby KE4 Tour 28°/Xcaliber HY r flex
    Ping I200 5-G/CFS70 r flex
    Maltby Tricept 54°/Xcaliber r flex
    Maltby Tricept 58°/Xcaliber r flex
    Mizuno Bettinardi C06
  • new2g0lfnew2g0lf Members Posts: 3,386 ✭✭
    If you put 6 different manufacturers balls down on the ground I couldn't tell you by feel which was which but there's definitely a difference in feel between different premium balls, especially off the putter.
    Driver - Ping G400 MAX 10.5*
    Woods - XXIO 10 3W
    Hybrids - XXIO 10 3H, 4H, 5H
    Irons - Home - PXG Gen 2 0311P 5-GW Away - Ping i500 5-AW
    Wedge - Vokey TVD 56* K Grind
    Putter - Seemore Nashville mFGP2 SS Mallet Black
    Ball - KSig, TM TP5X, Snell MTB
  • iutoddiutodd Members Posts: 216 ✭✭
    I think it just depends on the balls you're comparing - take the hardest ball and play it right after the softest ball and you'll tell a difference I think no matter what kind of player you are.



    I also think if you play the same ball all the time you get to know it pretty well and anything different would stand out more.



    I don't play nearly as much as some on here but I will say that I've played the QStar Tour a lot this summer - and I slipped in a 3pack of the new Trusofts that were given to me and I could definitely tell a difference in feel on the putting green but not really anywhere else.
  • Matt JMatt J Members Posts: 8,723 ✭✭
    Hmm... I wonder if acetone would take the print off without hurting the cover?



    If I could make them blank I could have my wife mark them and create a key to show me later.



    Anybody ever taken the manufacturer's print off a ball?
  • North ButteNorth Butte Members Posts: 9,912 ✭✭
    I used to spend a lot of time and money on fairly high-end audio. Believe me when I say you do not want to get into any part of double-blind testing as a way of confirming your preferences. It will be a soul-crushing defeat for everything you hold dear.



    Although I will say once the shock and despair wore off, in the ensuing decades I've save a FORTUNE by being able to buy cheap and readily available mass-market audio gear.
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  • GdpersGdpers Members Posts: 7


    Some time back consumer reports did ball testing and at that time the model of pro v and pinnacle gold had nearly identical measurements.

    Just play what feels good to you regardless of the advertising hype.
  • North ButteNorth Butte Members Posts: 9,912 ✭✭
    Well being Consumer Reports they probably weighed the ball, measured the diameter, counted the number of dimples checked how white they were then declared them functionally identical.
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  • farmerfarmer Members Posts: 7,853 ✭✭
    Gdpers wrote:


    Some time back consumer reports did ball testing and at that time the model of pro v and pinnacle gold had nearly identical measurements.

    Just play what feels good to you regardless of the advertising hype.
    They did not have anything close to identical measurements based on spin.
  • ShilgyShilgy Members Posts: 11,399 ✭✭
    deetsal wrote:


    For what's it's worth I remember reading a test in which they took away the sound of the ball being struck and no one could tell the difference between balls, any balls. Conclusion was that it's the lower pitched sound of urethane balls. Well I do not believe it, completely. On pure strikes maybe, but off enter hits, (not by me of course but I've heard others speak of such things), well there is were it is most obvious. (On off center hits).
    Yep, and Ping tested their cast versus forged irons and pros could not reliably tell the difference.
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  • North ButteNorth Butte Members Posts: 9,912 ✭✭
    Shilgy wrote:

    deetsal wrote:


    For what's it's worth I remember reading a test in which they took away the sound of the ball being struck and no one could tell the difference between balls, any balls. Conclusion was that it's the lower pitched sound of urethane balls. Well I do not believe it, completely. On pure strikes maybe, but off enter hits, (not by me of course but I've heard others speak of such things), well there is were it is most obvious. (On off center hits).
    Yep, and Ping tested their cast versus forged irons and pros could not reliably tell the difference.




    Double-blind testing, like Karma, is a B-I-blank-blank-blank!
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  • 64degreewedge64degreewedge Members Posts: 21
    edited Oct 26, 2017 #47
    Yesterday I picked up from Walmart a box of 18 Wilson Titanium golf balls for around $15. I played 36 holes today (9 hole course X 4). I have to admit, they seemed very light at the strike (if I'm expressing myself well) and I have to say I just like them.
  • naj959naj959 Members Posts: 999 ✭✭
    I have a friend that picks at the local driving range. There is a 9 hole course adjacent to the course. The staff is allowed to sell any premium balls they find. A couple of times they fill garbage cans full of premium balls and sell them to used ball distributors. Long story short I have access to and have tried most of the premium balls on the market and can tell the difference in balls. Some feel better off of drivers and some are better off of irons. Some feel like a marshmallow when rolled with a putter and others are clicky. Some launch high while others take off on a lower trajectory. Some bore through the wind while others are moved off line more easily. For me the Pro V1 and x are probably my favorite overall balls in terms of feel off of every club. Next would be Taylormade or Srixon. For some reason I've never liked the feel of any Callaway ball. I have a bunch of Chrome Softs, Super Softs, and Tour I's. They perform well enough but they're my least favorite premium ball.
  • playaplaya Members Posts: 8,722 ✭✭


    Growing up next to a golf course I supplemented my allowance by finding and selling golf balls. By doing that I was able to try out just about every make and model of ball back then. There definitely was a difference in feel between a ball like a Prostaff and say the bottom end Top Flite balls. Some felt like rocks off the club face while others felt like butter. Top Flite is one of those brands that seems more dedicated to the low cost end and thus most of their offerings tend to feel hard. The Top Flite Strata was a decent ball and what I hear of the Top Flite Gamer has me guessing it is a decent mid-level ball. The XL's are rocks, like Mojos, Pinnacle Golds etc.



    I played some of my best rounds with Pinnacle Golds but they definitely have a different feel than a premium ball. At a course with firm greens you can definitely tell the performance difference between a low-end Rock-Flite and a premium ball. If you can't tell the difference I would think that is odd. I stopped playing premium balls for a while as I got sick of occasionally hitting a good full wedge shot to the middle of the green only to watch it suck back off the front of the green. Now I don't hit the ball with as much spin and a 'premium' ball suits my game better than it previously did.



    I don't think there is anyone that can tell the difference between brands. They might be able to guess it is a Rock-Flite given they are a very popular low end ball.


    I'm the same as that I used to spin balatas and early urethane balls a ton, but now find premium balls a good fit as I don't put as much spin on the ball.

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  • TKSTKS Members Posts: 205 ✭✭
    edited Oct 27, 2017 #50
    I can tell between the lower compression/soft urethane balls and the hard ones.

    For example, I couldn't tell you which of the following is was hitting from a pure performance stand point.

    TP5, Zstar, FGTour, BRXS, CS. Ok maybe the higher trajectory of the Zstar, and lower flight of the CS, might give them away. But you get the idea: There are soft, mid, and hard feeling balls in both urethane and surlyn.
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    5-SW Sterlings S300's
    PCF Micro 58*
    S2R #5 putter Double Bend Shaft
    Softer Urethane balls - too many to list
  • torbilltorbill Members Posts: 286 ✭✭
    The prez of our local hickory sticks club once told me that they won't play Pinnacles because in their experience hitting a Pinnacle has caused shafts to break. If true, that would be quite a difference that the golf club, if not the player, could detect...
  • Jdavenp3Jdavenp3 Members Posts: 825 ✭✭
    For me, feel is perceived as sound. I can tell the difference in my Chrome Soft vs Chrome Soft X off the putter face. I can pretty well differentiate a Chrome Soft vs other balls off wedges. Off the driver not so much. I rarely use a ball other than the Chrome Soft so it is a non-issue for me.
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  • 64degreewedge64degreewedge Members Posts: 21
    I just want to mention one last thing that I had completely forgot about until now. Last November when I began Christmas shopping I went into a popular golf store, at the entrance a sign listed the prices for golf club fitting, simulator rates, and GET THIS: "Golf Ball Fitting $5". I couldn't help laughing to myself that you would ACTUALLY have the guy look at your swing, ask you a few questions and then listed to him say "Ok, for your game either one of these two balls would suit you best". I'd like to know how many people paid the $5 for that.
  • chippa13chippa13 Members Posts: 2,251 ✭✭
    A lot cheaper than buying several sleeves of balls.
  • hybrid25hybrid25 michiganMembers Posts: 1,555 ✭✭


    I just want to mention one last thing that I had completely forgot about until now. Last November when I began Christmas shopping I went into a popular golf store, at the entrance a sign listed the prices for golf club fitting, simulator rates, and GET THIS: "Golf Ball Fitting $5". I couldn't help laughing to myself that you would ACTUALLY have the guy look at your swing, ask you a few questions and then listed to him say "Ok, for your game either one of these two balls would suit you best". I'd like to know how many people paid the $5 for that.
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  • chippa13chippa13 Members Posts: 2,251 ✭✭


    I just want to mention one last thing that I had completely forgot about until now. Last November when I began Christmas shopping I went into a popular golf store, at the entrance a sign listed the prices for golf club fitting, simulator rates, and GET THIS: "Golf Ball Fitting $5". I couldn't help laughing to myself that you would ACTUALLY have the guy look at your swing, ask you a few questions and then listed to him say "Ok, for your game either one of these two balls would suit you best". I'd like to know how many people paid the $5 for that.




    It is probably more hitting several different balls and seeing on a monitor which gives you optimal numbers.
  • dave williedave willie Members Posts: 799 ✭✭
    i often practice shipping with several balls. If I'm using a mix of Z-Stars and ProV1s, I can definitely see and feel the difference in the way the balls check and roll out. I like both balls, but I seem to score better on average with the Srixon.
    Titleist 917 D3 10.5 Diamana Ltd S+ Blue 70-S
    Cobra Bio Cell 3/4 wood PXv 6.0
    Cleveland Hi-Bore 19 hybrid
    Ping i210 4-PW AWT 2.0 R
    Cleveland 588 50*, 54* & 60*
    Cameron Mil-Spec & Del Mar 2 Tei
  • 18thbunker18thbunker Members Posts: 337 ✭✭
    I practiced pitching and chipping today solely using a Callaway MD Forged 50 degree wedge. So I threw in Titleist ProVX, Taylomade LDP Black, Bridgestone B330s and Maxfli U6 Tour.



    My eyes, hands and hearing might be defective as I can not discern one from another



    Yes they all spin differently but with my ability the differences are negligible. Pretty sure for someone more skilled than me, the differences are more critical to their game.
    [font=comic sans ms,cursive]driver - Titleist 915 D3 10.5[/font]
    [font=comic sans ms,cursive]fairway - Ping I25 18 degree 5 wood
    hybrid - Ben Hogan VKTR 19 & 23
    Irons - Mizuno MP68 3-PW
    wedges Mizuno MP-T5 50-58
    putter - Ping Sigma G Doon[/font]
  • bmrowebmrowe Members Posts: 163 ✭✭
    The TP5X was the first ball that had a visible difference in ball flight in that it was quite a bit higher than any ball I'd played in the past. The Chrome soft had a feel that was recognizably soft compared to most balls. Now, there are quite a few low compression balls, so it might be harder to pick based on feel.
  • swing thoughtsswing thoughts Members Posts: 259 ✭✭
    Other than surlyn/urethane or old top flite/new soft style ball, it's hard to tell much difference for me. I play Pro V1 and 1x, and I can definitely tell the difference in sound and feel off the irons. I could likely differentiate if you gave me a one-shot blind test between the two, assuming I made clean contact.
    Ping G SL Tec 9* XS
    Callaway XR 15* R

    Cobra Bio Cell Fairway 18.5 S
    Titleist 816 H1 21* S
    Nike Vapor Pro 4-9 S <or> Mizuno MP 69 4-9

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    Odyssey Versa #7 35"
    Taylormade Daddy Long Legs 38"
    [background=transparent]Scotty Futura X5 38"[/background]
    [background=transparent]Callaway Bobby Jones blade 35"[/background]
  • deepreddeepred Members Posts: 221 ✭✭
    The biggest difference is this, the more I paid for a ball, the more likely I am to lose it, often in a really stupid way or the more normal errant tee shot.
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    Cleveland Classic XL Driver
    Wilson Fybrid 15*
    KE4 5 wood
    Maltby SW54, black
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