Best Japanese Driver

kacerkacer Members Posts: 122 ✭✭
I've just started looking into Japanese equipment, mainly because a club fitter that I trust has shown me some irons that I'm going to get. They are the Alpha MB irons.



It seems like there are tighter tolerances with these clubs, not that the technology is better, but they make them to spec rather than mass produce them and you can alter the lie angle on some of the drivers/woods. And you if you order a 10.5 head, chances are the head specs out at 10.5 and has a consistent face angle, rather then I feel US equipment you can order a 10.5 head and you get lofts all over the board.



My question is, what drivers are good in the Japanese market? I've looked at PRGR heads, Royal Collection, and some others but have zero clue if they are comparable to US domestic heads as far as ball speeds, forgiveness, etc...



Can someone point me in the general direction?
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  • nitramnitram Take Dead Aim Members Posts: 5,177 ✭✭
    JBEAM is my favorite. Ryoma and Honma are solid as well.
    JBeam BM-435 Blackout 9* Accra Tour-Z RPG 352
    TEE CBX 15* Accra Tour-Z RPG 382
    Bridgestone J33 Airmuscle 19* Veylix Rome 988X
    PING S55 4-W DGTI X100
    PING Glide 2.0 Stealth 50SS, 56SS, & 60ES DGTI S400
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  • HopnstopnputtHopnstopnputt ClubWRX Posts: 338 ✭✭
    Historically a lot of love for the S-Yard T.388 as well as above choices
  • Diamana_StingerDiamana_Stinger Members Posts: 272 ✭✭
    crazy crz-435 (made by jbeam)
    JBeam J3 Tour 10* - Syncagraphite Loop Prototype IP X
    A Grind FW #3 14* - Tensei Pro White 80 TX
    Mizuno JPX 900 Tour #3 GF Forged
    Kyoei Prototype MB #4-PW
    (Nippon LSL Proto X Flex in 3-PW)
    Wedge Rotation; Crazy, GrindStudio, SDJ 115, Artisan
    (Shimada Tour Wedge Black Shaft)
    (DG Onyx Black Tour Issue DGS400)
    Benock Okuda Putter (JSS/SUS316L) 009 head shape
    Elite Y360*SH Black/Black
    Elite Geron Type N2 Putter Black
  • bogeychampionbogeychampion Members Posts: 20
    Seriously, the prices on these drivers are ridiculous... Why? Are they worth it?
  • 03trdblack03trdblack ClubWRX Posts: 1,847 ClubWRX


    Seriously, the prices on these drivers are ridiculous... Why? Are they worth it?




    No reason other than people in that market are willing to pay those prices.
  • Kingcat990Kingcat990 European Tailored Golf Socks Members Posts: 3,813 ✭✭
    I read somewhere that summed it up nicely. Have you ever closed the door on a Mercedes S class and closed the door on a Ford Fiesta?



    The JDM woods are just superior.



    In regards to this topic, PRGR, JBeam, and Baldo.
    Wyoming Cowboys
  • FLOGMRFLOGMR Members Posts: 1,267 ✭✭
    edited Nov 1, 2017 #8
    Take a look at the new Miura Hayate driver....great club and not ridiculously priced. image/taunt.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':taunt:' /> I have the driver, 3 wood and 5 wood....Sweet!!
  • LondonerLondoner Members Posts: 1,167 ✭✭
    Hideki Matsuyama.
    Mizuno mp h5. 4-W KBS tour stiff 2 iron modus 3 stiff.
    taylormade m2 Driver + hl 3 wood
    ping anser
    Titleist sm6 50 +54
    Cleveland 60
  • TzoidTzoid Members Posts: 1,666 ✭✭
    Londoner wrote:


    Hideki Matsuyama.




    I think he plays a Callaway driver
    Texan stranded in "The Peoples Republic of Maryland"
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    Ping G400 3 Wood Aldila Rogue Silver 110 M.S.I. 70
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  • Bravo36Bravo36 ClubWRX Posts: 855 ClubWRX
    And rightly so.
  • ian-500ian-500 Members Posts: 703 ✭✭
    Londoner wrote:


    Hideki Matsuyama.




    i saw what you did there......
    Cobra F9 7.5* + Fuji Speeder Pro XLR8 63tx.
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    Adams DHY Pro 27 + Irod 105x.
    Adams XTD Forged Tour Issue 6i - GW + Recoil Prototype 125F5.
    Adams XTD Forged SW/LW + KBS Hi-Rev x.
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  • marker10marker10 Members Posts: 21
    kacer wrote:


    I've just started looking into Japanese equipment, mainly because a club fitter that I trust has shown me some irons that I'm going to get. They are the Alpha MB irons.



    It seems like there are tighter tolerances with these clubs, not that the technology is better, but they make them to spec rather than mass produce them and you can alter the lie angle on some of the drivers/woods. And you if you order a 10.5 head, chances are the head specs out at 10.5 and has a consistent face angle, rather then I feel US equipment you can order a 10.5 head and you get lofts all over the board.



    My question is, what drivers are good in the Japanese market? I've looked at PRGR heads, Royal Collection, and some others but have zero clue if they are comparable to US domestic heads as far as ball speeds, forgiveness, etc...



    Can someone point me in the general direction?
    Just know that some Japanese drivers are non-conforming if that matters to you. They are built to give you max distance.
  • TK3TK3 TK3 Members Posts: 233 ✭✭
    Ryoma

    PRGR

    Miura

    JBeam
    My set-up:
    Bag - Sun Mountain MPB
    Driver - Ping G400 MAX with Oban Kiyoshi Purple
    3 Wood - Ryoma F3 / Matrix
    Hybrid - Rocketballz 3 hybrid
    Irons - JDM Titleist VG3 4-PW irons with Nippon Modus 3 shafts
    Wedges - Ping Glide 50* / 54* / 58*
    Putter - Scotty Cameron GoLo 33"
    Shoes - Ecco Cage
    Ball - Srixon Z Star
  • LondonerLondoner Members Posts: 1,167 ✭✭
    ian-500 wrote:

    Londoner wrote:


    Hideki Matsuyama.




    i saw what you did there......


    Glad somebody did. image/taunt.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':taunt:' />
    Mizuno mp h5. 4-W KBS tour stiff 2 iron modus 3 stiff.
    taylormade m2 Driver + hl 3 wood
    ping anser
    Titleist sm6 50 +54
    Cleveland 60
  • ShaccoShacco Members Posts: 84
    Really depends on what you are looking for and depends what you like. Most JDM drivers have forged faces, but that does not always equal to better feel. But Ryoma, JBeam, Baldo is a good place to start.
    Callaway Epic SZ, Kamui TP-XF 3W, Romaro iBrid Chapter2, 5-PW PRGR RS Forged, CGS Orion Spy S Wedge GW, Yamaha InpresX SW, Edel DGR LW
  • DavidvDavidv Members Posts: 709 ✭✭
  • No_Catchy_NicknameNo_Catchy_Nickname Kyushu,_JapanMembers Posts: 5,202 ✭✭
    Londoner wrote:


    Hideki Matsuyama.




    I think Ukyo Katayama is even better.
    Driver: Ping G400 Tour 65S
    4w: TaylorMade R9 stock Fujikura Motore X flex
    7w TaylorMade V-steel, Quadra Fire Express RB 6SX
    Hybrid: RomaRo iBrid 23* Attas EZ 85S
    Irons (4i-PW): Wilson fg-62 S300 4/5-PW or MP4 Yoro Modus 125X 5-PW
    Wedges: Callaway MD2 T-grind combination of 52*, 56*, 58*, 60*
    Putter: Mac Jack Nicklaus Muirfield

    Old stuff: Tons of persimmon and older irons. 
  • JoseloJoselo Members Posts: 198 ✭✭
    Went to Japan a couple of months ago.... wondered around 2,3 stores in the Ginza district in Tokyo.... everything obscenely expensive
  • snick59snick59 Members Posts: 15
    The best driver is the one you can hit.
  • johnnyprojohnnypro Members Posts: 1,866 ✭✭
    I'm totally sick of all the hype from TM, Callaway, PING, et al. I'm going back to JDM. Already have a Fourteen CT-112 that I will NEVER get rid of.



    Anyone have any experience with the Bridgestone Tour B line of drivers. Thinking about picking up a "3" model.
  • tsupotsupo ClubWRX Posts: 1,192 ✭✭
    prob Kamui Kobayashi.

    10.5* kamui pro tp07/diamana X 70s ..... 15* prgr egg spoon/roddio tour bee 71x ....18* prgr egg/ diamana stinger 70xx....22* PRGR  speed di...... 3/pw  MASDA mb/NS proto 2g18s..... 52*/56*  TOURSTAGE cu X wedge / NS WV125s......TOURSTAGE x01z balls.

  • kasparaitiskasparaitis Members Posts: 96 ✭✭
    edited Nov 16, 2017 #23
    When I was in the market, I fortunate to be able hit a few from JBEAM, Ryoma, and PRGR for a few range sessions (zero numbers on distance (unless you count eye-balling it), etc., just range sessions). I ended up going with PRGR just based on what I was seeing, and how it looked at address. To be honest, you really can't go wrong with any, I would have been happy with any of the ones I tested, I just went with the one that seemed to have worked best.
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    SYB FC-714 15° - AD DI7s
    Miura Giken 20° hybrid - MCH 80s
    Miura PP9003-SN 5 - GW - Veylix Alpina 873
    Miura 1957 K-Grind - 55° | 59°

    PRGR Red 9.5° / J33R 8.5°
    Callaway XR16 Pro 14° - AD DI7s
    Tourstage z101 3 - PW - Satin PX5.5
    HiBore 19° hybrid - Matrix Ozik Altus
    Royal Collection DB forged raw - 48° | 52° | 59°

    Yamada Emperor-55
    Hiro Matsumoto
    8802
  • hardboiledhardboiled Members Posts: 221
    JBeam ZY-11 or 435 Blackout

    If you like compact heads and really deep faces, these are awesome.

    Love mine
    WITB
    JBeam ZY11 / Crazy Boron
    TM M2 Tour 3HL / Kai Li
    Cobra F7 4 Hy / Oban Kiyoshi Purple
    PXG 0311T / Steelfiber i110
    Mizuno S5 52/56

    Callaway PM 60
    Lajosi Custom
  • freehbfreehb Members Posts: 839
    Long duck dong
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  • JmxJmx Members Posts: 128 ✭✭
    lololol image/slow_en.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':slow_en:' /> troll


    Londoner wrote:

    ian-500 wrote:

    Londoner wrote:


    Hideki Matsuyama.




    i saw what you did there......


    Glad somebody did. image/taunt.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':taunt:' />
  • wmblake2000wmblake2000 Members Posts: 5,702 ✭✭
    edited Nov 21, 2017 #27
    I had jbeam blackout and loved it until the magic vanished. Then I got the Epic and it’s still awesome 1 yr later. So I reached the opinion that US makes better drivers and JDM better irons and wedges. Which is wholly indefensible.
    Ping GMax 400 10.5
    Callawy Epic 5W
    Callaway X-hot 3,4 h
    Mizuno FliHi 5 iron
    Mizuno MP4 6-W
    Fourteen mt28v3 50, 54, 58
    Cameron Futura 5W


  • nounalaonounalao Nouna Lao Members Posts: 3
    Crazy, Voltio, Honma beres, kamui, quelot etc they are all long with forgiveness, the feeling on the tee box is just amazing but be careful when you brought them like the Sword Voltio if you got a swing speed higher than 100 you can break the club face. My first Driver was honma and it was so great!!

    So Honma or Kamui for me
    French Expat in Laos
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    Titleist Golf Bag
    Driver: Taylormade M1 2017 10.5 degree set at 11.25
    GD tour AD shaft MT6 X flex
    3 wood: Callaway Epic Sub Zero
    Project X HZRDUS T1100 6.0
    Hybrid: Callaway X-hot 2 18 degree
    Shaft Aldila Tour series Green S flex
    Iron 3: titleist CB forged S300 X flex
    Iron 4: Callaway X-forged 2013 S flex
    P-5 irons set : Mizuno MP-5 Modus 3 125 S flex
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  • EaglesGolf99EaglesGolf99 (.... Formerly Known As RaidersGolf99) Foxboro, MAMembers Posts: 2,405 ✭✭
    A-Grind Classic 350 10.50°
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  • ian-500ian-500 Members Posts: 703 ✭✭
    Loved all of the Yamaha Inpres XV heads I've tried except the 2013, jBEAM have been hit and miss. Loved the 535 but didn't like the ZY-11. I have a ZY-7 in for testing.......

    Kamui Works are great too. I didn't get on with the Ryoma D1 V-Spec.
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    Adams XTD Forged SW/LW + KBS Hi-Rev x.
    SeeMore SB1, Accra FX300, Garsen.
  • jmvargasjmvargas Members Posts: 6,162 ✭✭
    i have always been a great fan of JDM equipment specially their drivers but have had only limited experience in owning them due to their cost..



    i have however had Tourstage Viq, Yamaha,Giga and Hirohonma twin marks drivers bought pre-owned and here is my take..



    the older models were 100% made in japan and quality was second to none..



    the flexes play softer vs their USDM counterparts--ie--R flex is more like A flex and S is more like R..



    some of the newer models already have components sourced elsewhere so you have to do your research if you want one 100% japan made..



    once you have made your choice they are all topnotch so good luck in finding the right one for you..
    Giga XF0710* driver/Hirohonma twin marks 355 10.5* driver
    TEE XCG5 16.5* 4W, Giga XF-11 17* 4W
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    Mizuno Intage 27* 9W
    Giga U3 21* hybrid
    Tourstage Viq U5 25* hybrid
    Adams V4 6H/7H
    Adams V4 forged irons 8-PW,GW,SW,LW
    HEAVY PUTTER mid-weight K4 putter
    Sun Mountain H2N0 stand bag
    Wilson Harmonized 55*/60*wedges
    Cleveland 588 56/60
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