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Hello there,

 

I'm 4 degrees flat and literally cannot find any OEM that has fairway woods that fit me. Other than Wishon or KZG, is there anything out there that I can try that is far flatter (or can be bent flatter) than the standard OEMs' stuff?

 

Thanks in advance for any suggestions/comments.

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Also the Mizuno ST180 and JPX900 have pretty flat lies in the standard loft setting. I get my irons 4* flat minus 1/2” so lie angle in woods and hybrids has always been a touchy issue for me from a fitting stand point. With the Mizunos I always go a 1/2” shorter when custom order and that gives me another degree flat on top of the flatter stock settings. Also, with minus 1/2” they have always hit my D2-4 requests on swing weight with the proper shaft I order. Good luck OP

 

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As mentioned, Callaway Pro line (XR, X2Hot) or custom order are your best bets. I too prefer a flatter fairway to alleviate hook concerns.

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Callaway Rogue 14* / Tour Blue 75-S

Callaway Rogue SZ 18* / Thump 75f-S

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PXG Sugar Daddy II 53*/58*

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Have you looked at the 2017 M2 Tour? I want to say that was four degrees flat of their regular version (still might not actually be flat). I'm using it and absolutely love it.

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Hello there,

 

I'm 4 degrees flat and literally cannot find any OEM that has fairway woods that fit me. Other than Wishon or KZG, is there anything out there that I can try that is far flatter (or can be bent flatter) than the standard OEMs' stuff?

 

Thanks in advance for any suggestions/comments.

 

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I have always noted thaf Callaway seems to offer woods that are a little flatter and that is why I play them.

Callaway Paradym Triple Diamond 10.5 w/Diamana TB 60S

PXG GEN6 5 wood w/Diamana S-plus 70 stiff

Yamaha RMX VD 7 wood w/Diamana S-plus 70 stiff

Callaway Mavrik Pro hybrid (22) w/Aldila Tour Blue 85 stiff hybrid

Wilson Staff Model CB 5-G w/DG s300 shafts

Edel T grind 54 w/Nippon 125 wedge shaft

Fourteen RM-12 58 w/Dynamic Golds400

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Obee same boat as you I am 2-3* flat

 

I can’t find a 3 wood that works except for Soren old school woods

 

So I grew up using stronger loft 3 woods to offset the lie a little

 

I have sonartec SS-07 that played flat (they also have bendable hosels) but these are ancient

 

I recently got a exotics xcg6 and they play a bit flat and setup square/slightly open ..

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Hello there,

 

I'm 4 degrees flat and literally cannot find any OEM that has fairway woods that fit me. Other than Wishon or KZG, is there anything out there that I can try that is far flatter (or can be bent flatter) than the standard OEMs' stuff?

 

Thanks in advance for any suggestions/comments.

 

Try the TM M1 2016, it is flatter than the Callaway Mini 1.5 driver.

And additionally you can put the weights of the M1 into fade position.

 

The heel section also allows a very flat lie angle:

 

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Epic Sub Zero 13+ is 54.5 and 5 wood is 55.5.

 
  • Callaway Epic Max LS 10.5; Mitsubishi Diamana TB 60 S; 45.5”
  • Taylormade SIM Max 3w and 5w; Mitsubishi Diamana BF 70 S; 43.25” & 42.25”
  • Mizuno '21 CLK 19, 22 & 25; Fujikura Speeder EVO 75 HB Graphite S; Std L/L/L; sub for 5w, 4i & 5i
  • PXG 0311 P GEN3 PW-4i; Aerotech Steelfiber i95 stiff ; Std L/+0.75"/2 up
  • Vokey SM9 50F8 & 54S10 and SM8 58M8; Mitsubishi MMT 105 S in 50 & KBS 610 Wedge R+ in 54 & 58; Std L/+0.75"/1 up
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xr16 pro is 55 deg. about the flattest stock. i think the x2hot pros were also 55.

I like my fairway woods flat, too, and the Callaway XR, X2 hot, etc. pro versions are the flattest I have found.

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Callaway XR Pro 16*, Tour Blue 75S
Titleist 917 F2 21*, Diamana D+ 80S

Titleist 585h 24*, Proforce V2 100S
Titleist 716 CB 5 iron, S400

Mizuno MP4 6-9, S300
Cleveland RTX4 47, 51, 55, 60, S400
Kingston KP1, 35in

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May be wedges and short irons I can see but a driver, 3 wood won’t be as pronounce.

 

May be the flat clubs matches your swing plane but in my opinion, a higher ball flight is encouraged by a taller swing plane; ideal.

 

I’m 5-3 and play my wedges at 64* lie progression and hit a high 3 iron 200 yards; albeit thru swing changes and lessons with a swing coach that was inline with my goals.

 

Before that, some moron thought I should be playing a 62* lie wedge/cut 1” and it was horrible.

 

You don’t need a flat 3 wood or driver.

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Thanks for answering the OP’s question...

 

The OP answered his own question and others have recommended Callaway for flat fairway woods.

 

I play the Callaway xr steel head in a 3 and 5 wood.

 

The strong 3 and 4 wood have flatter lie angles; FYI.

 

I still think a 4* flat is extreme and vain for a 3 wood and driver.

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May be wedges and short irons I can see but a driver, 3 wood won't be as pronounce.

 

May be the flat clubs matches your swing plane but in my opinion, a higher ball flight is encouraged by a taller swing plane; ideal.

 

I'm 5-3 and play my wedges at 64* lie progression and hit a high 3 iron 200 yards; albeit thru swing changes and lessons with a swing coach that was inline with my goals.

 

Before that, some moron thought I should be playing a 62* lie wedge/cut 1" and it was horrible.

 

You don't need a flat 3 wood or driver.

 

OP is giving you 6 shots a side and you're telling him what he needs and doesn't need?

 

Echoing what others said - the Pro series from callaway (XR, X2) are super flat, and could probably be bent an extra degree or two by someone who knew what they were doing.

 

Might be harder with adapters as they can't be bent.

 

OP what do you have now that is close?

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Lately there’s all these threads about guys who can’t hit 3 woods off the deck and band aid by or encouraged by others to use driving irons, 4 woods, hybrids, lie angle.

 

Most of the people (wrong) are propagating the issue.

 

It’s a swing issue not an equipment issue; this is my personal experience and I have fitted others as well.

 

May be wedges and short irons I can see but a driver, 3 wood won't be as pronounce.

 

May be the flat clubs matches your swing plane but in my opinion, a higher ball flight is encouraged by a taller swing plane; ideal.

 

I'm 5-3 and play my wedges at 64* lie progression and hit a high 3 iron 200 yards; albeit thru swing changes and lessons with a swing coach that was inline with my goals.

 

Before that, some moron thought I should be playing a 62* lie wedge/cut 1" and it was horrible.

 

You don't need a flat 3 wood or driver.

 

OP is giving you 6 shots a side and you're telling him what he needs and doesn't need?

 

Echoing what others said - the Pro series from callaway (XR, X2) are super flat, and could probably be bent an extra degree or two by someone who knew what they were doing.

 

Might be harder with adapters as they can't be bent.

 

OP what do you have now that is close?

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Lately there’s all these threads about guys who can’t hit 3 woods off the deck and band aid by or encouraged by others to use driving irons, 4 woods, hybrids, lie angle.

 

Most of the people (wrong) are propagating the issue.

 

It’s a swing issue not an equipment issue; this is my personal experience and I have fitted others as well.

 

May be wedges and short irons I can see but a driver, 3 wood won't be as pronounce.

 

May be the flat clubs matches your swing plane but in my opinion, a higher ball flight is encouraged by a taller swing plane; ideal.

 

I'm 5-3 and play my wedges at 64* lie progression and hit a high 3 iron 200 yards; albeit thru swing changes and lessons with a swing coach that was inline with my goals.

 

Before that, some moron thought I should be playing a 62* lie wedge/cut 1" and it was horrible.

 

You don't need a flat 3 wood or driver.

 

OP is giving you 6 shots a side and you're telling him what he needs and doesn't need?

 

Echoing what others said - the Pro series from callaway (XR, X2) are super flat, and could probably be bent an extra degree or two by someone who knew what they were doing.

 

Might be harder with adapters as they can't be bent.

 

OP what do you have now that is close?

 

Nick Watney as an example uses a 12* driver and 17* fairway wood. Is that a swing issue? Or maybe he just requires those specs.

 

 

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Are you really comparing yourself to NW?

 

Comparisons to a tour pro is delusional and idolatry.

 

You said one post up "Lately there’s all these threads about guys who can’t hit 3 woods off the deck and band aid by or encouraged by others to use driving irons, 4 woods, hybrids, lie angle...It’s a swing issue not an equipment issue". I gave an example of a player who uses unconventional equipment (of whom there are plenty). Would you advise Nick Watney to work on his swing given he (his quote) "needs help getting the ball in the air"?

 

Anyway, this is a silly argument that's going nowhere. What I'm trying to say is that I don't think making blanket statements about the specs people need (and suggesting that wanting flat clubs, a 4 wood or driving iron is "vain"), without any knowledge of their ability, or swing tendencies, is helpful. In this case the OP is + handicap so will ignore your advice anyway, but others may not. All the best to you and your clients.

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