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Callaway APEX MB RAW

PontusPontus Members Posts: 38
So I just heard from a local fitter that Callaway are making the apex mb "raw" version available for leftys 2018 in Sweden. Huge fan of the look you get with a raw finish. But since they does not come cheap and I will use them for some years (I hope so atleast). How will the raw finish/ rust affect the life cycle compared to a forged non-raw finish??
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  • Lacey UnderallLacey Underall Advanced Members Posts: 1,173
    This has been one of my talking points for some time. I firmly believe that raw irons/wedges last longer. If you look at any used iron/wedge its typically the chrome finish that shows the wear. Why do people send their clubs off to get refinished? To put a fresh new coat of chrome on them! I only use raw wedges and they last forever. Unless you play on a really sandy surface (then you have no hope either way).
    2019 WITB
    Driver: Callaway Epic Flash Sub-Zero 10.5* - Project X Hzrdus Black 75 6.5
    3 Wood: Callaway Epic 15* - Aldila Rogue Max 85x
    2-PW: Callaway X-Prototype MBs - Project X 6.5 flighted
    52* Wedge: Callaway MD2 Slate S Grind
    58* Wedge: Callaway MD2 Slate S Grind
    Putter: Odyssey Jailbird Mini
  • buckeyeflbuckeyefl Advanced Members Posts: 5,236 ✭✭
    Sand is the enemy!
  • toddba11toddba11 Moonlight Mile Advanced Members Posts: 572
    Is the RAW available in the US for right-handers?
    In the Bag:
    Driver - Titleist 915 D2 - Tensei White CK Pro Mitsubishi Rayon 70S, 45"
    3 Wood: Callaway Epic 13.5 Rogue 75S
    Irons: 4 - PW Callaway Apex MBs 2018 - DG TI 120 S400 +1"
    3 Cobra Iron Utility Black with KBS $120 Shaft +1"
    PW: Vokey 7M 46,52 (both F grind),60 (M grind) degree. SW: Ping I10
    Hybrid: Cobra F7
    Putter: TP Mills High Toe ONE or TP Mills Bull Elf
    Ball: Pro V or Bridgestone RSX
    Bag: 2018 Sun Mountain C-130
  • PontusPontus Members Posts: 38


    This has been one of my talking points for some time. I firmly believe that raw irons/wedges last longer. If you look at any used iron/wedge its typically the chrome finish that shows the wear. Why do people send their clubs off to get refinished? To put a fresh new coat of chrome on them! I only use raw wedges and they last forever. Unless you play on a really sandy surface (then you have no hope either way).


    Thats interesting, so you feel like the groves stays sharper longer than non-raws? But refinish that's for looks only, I am right? If they got atleast the same life time as non-raws, Im all over these!


    toddba11 wrote:


    Is the RAW available in the US for right-handers?


    No idea. Weird if they were offered in europe but not the US?
  • toddba11toddba11 Moonlight Mile Advanced Members Posts: 572
    Agreed, I suspect st some point they will.
    In the Bag:
    Driver - Titleist 915 D2 - Tensei White CK Pro Mitsubishi Rayon 70S, 45"
    3 Wood: Callaway Epic 13.5 Rogue 75S
    Irons: 4 - PW Callaway Apex MBs 2018 - DG TI 120 S400 +1"
    3 Cobra Iron Utility Black with KBS $120 Shaft +1"
    PW: Vokey 7M 46,52 (both F grind),60 (M grind) degree. SW: Ping I10
    Hybrid: Cobra F7
    Putter: TP Mills High Toe ONE or TP Mills Bull Elf
    Ball: Pro V or Bridgestone RSX
    Bag: 2018 Sun Mountain C-130
  • Jdavenp3Jdavenp3 Advanced Members Posts: 823 ✭✭
    toddba11 wrote:


    Agreed, I suspect st some point they will.






    This was a question that I asked in the Callaway Live Chat thread. Basically they aren't offering it in the US right now and there was more of a demand for it overseas. I really don't see how but surely we will see them at some point.
    WITB:

    *Taylormade M4 8.75* Evenflow Black HC 6.0 65g
    *Taylormade M4 15* Tensei Blue
    *Taylormade 2014 Rescue TP 18*
    *Taylormade P790 4-AW Nippon Modus 105 T stiff
    *Callaway MD3 Lucky Clover 56* & 60*
    *Taylormade Spider X-navy w/ single sightline
    *2019 ProV1X-yellow
    *Nike camo cart bag.
    *Nike Vapor React 2 & Nike Air Max 1g
  • toddba11toddba11 Moonlight Mile Advanced Members Posts: 572
    Great, good to know, thanks for the information. I love the look of those MBs, regardless, but the raw would be a nice option if I pull the trigger.

    In the Bag:
    Driver - Titleist 915 D2 - Tensei White CK Pro Mitsubishi Rayon 70S, 45"
    3 Wood: Callaway Epic 13.5 Rogue 75S
    Irons: 4 - PW Callaway Apex MBs 2018 - DG TI 120 S400 +1"
    3 Cobra Iron Utility Black with KBS $120 Shaft +1"
    PW: Vokey 7M 46,52 (both F grind),60 (M grind) degree. SW: Ping I10
    Hybrid: Cobra F7
    Putter: TP Mills High Toe ONE or TP Mills Bull Elf
    Ball: Pro V or Bridgestone RSX
    Bag: 2018 Sun Mountain C-130
  • tobybeartobybear Members, ClubWRX Media Staffer Posts: 1,454 ✭✭
    having worked in golf retail its a very North American thing to have "shiny & bright"



    MANY moons ago I was a tech rep for a major OEM and the year I started this company stopped offering RAW wedges to consumers - you guys can figure this out. Anyways when I asked why - because it was always my preference, i was told it was because in pro shops and big box the average consumer never wanted to buy a club that was already rusted. They chose to abandon the RAW wedges instead of offer consumer education about the product anymore.



    I think it comes down to consumer preference and what sells in what markets. If it was up to me all my irons and wedges would be raw.
  • EaglesGolf99EaglesGolf99 (.... Formerly Known As RaidersGolf99) Members, Advanced Members Posts: 2,329 ✭✭
    I asked a similar question in the live chat too, I went unanswered though.



    Seriously though...



    Legacy Black Stenson's (Japan)

    1st Gen Epic Star Driver & Fairways (Japan)

    Epic Forged Driver (Japan)

    Apex MB Raw (Europe)



    What am I missing here, Callaway?



    Bonded Drivers and RAW Clubheads .... I gotta live outside the states to get them?
    [font=lucida sans unicode,lucida grande,sans-serif]2017 WORLD CHAMPION
    PHILADELPHIA EAGLES[/font]


    [font=lucida sans unicode,lucida grande,sans-serif]W. I. T. B.[/font]


    [font=lucida sans unicode,lucida grande,sans-serif]Callaway Epic Flash 9.0° HZRDUS Smoke Black 70 X
    Callaway TC Rogue 4 17.0° HZRDUS Smoke Black 80 X
    Callaway TC Apex 2H 18.0° Tour Spec Speeder 904HB X
    Callaway TC Apex 4H 23.0° Tour Spec Speeder 904HB X
    Callaway X-Forged UT 27.0° Steel Fiber i110 S
    Callaway X-Forged UT 30.0° Steel Fiber i110 S[/font]
    [font=lucida sans unicode,lucida grande,sans-serif]Miura 1957 CB-57 7-8[/font] [font=lucida sans unicode,lucida grande,sans-serif]Steel Fiber i110 S[/font]

    [font=lucida sans unicode,lucida grande,sans-serif]Miura 1957 Baby Blade 9-P Steel Fiber i110 S
    Miura Hand Grind Raw 52.0° / 10.0° Steel Fiber i110 S
    Miura Hand Grind Raw 58.0° / 10.0° Steel Fiber i110 S
    Miura 1957 KM-005 Black Boron APPN Black Smoke 36 S
    Callaway 2018 Chrome Soft X[/font]
  • EaglesGolf99EaglesGolf99 (.... Formerly Known As RaidersGolf99) Members, Advanced Members Posts: 2,329 ✭✭
    tobybear wrote:


    having worked in golf retail its a very North American thing to have "shiny & bright"



    MANY moons ago I was a tech rep for a major OEM and the year I started this company stopped offering RAW wedges to consumers - you guys can figure this out. Anyways when I asked why - because it was always my preference, i was told it was because in pro shops and big box the average consumer never wanted to buy a club that was already rusted. They chose to abandon the RAW wedges instead of offer consumer education about the product anymore.



    I think it comes down to consumer preference and what sells in what markets. If it was up to me all my irons and wedges would be raw.




    I think it was Nike who had the blue wax "headcovers" on it's Raw Wedges? ... Maybe it was Mizuno ... I forget, but I thought that was a really, really, good idea. Prevents the pre-purchase rust and protects from dings and dents as an added bonus. I understand it's probably a costly proposition to major OEM's, but I think a guy in the market to buy Raw Wedges, doesn't have an issue paying a couple extra bucks for the post production, pre sale, waxing process.



    JMO.
    [font=lucida sans unicode,lucida grande,sans-serif]2017 WORLD CHAMPION
    PHILADELPHIA EAGLES[/font]


    [font=lucida sans unicode,lucida grande,sans-serif]W. I. T. B.[/font]


    [font=lucida sans unicode,lucida grande,sans-serif]Callaway Epic Flash 9.0° HZRDUS Smoke Black 70 X
    Callaway TC Rogue 4 17.0° HZRDUS Smoke Black 80 X
    Callaway TC Apex 2H 18.0° Tour Spec Speeder 904HB X
    Callaway TC Apex 4H 23.0° Tour Spec Speeder 904HB X
    Callaway X-Forged UT 27.0° Steel Fiber i110 S
    Callaway X-Forged UT 30.0° Steel Fiber i110 S[/font]
    [font=lucida sans unicode,lucida grande,sans-serif]Miura 1957 CB-57 7-8[/font] [font=lucida sans unicode,lucida grande,sans-serif]Steel Fiber i110 S[/font]

    [font=lucida sans unicode,lucida grande,sans-serif]Miura 1957 Baby Blade 9-P Steel Fiber i110 S
    Miura Hand Grind Raw 52.0° / 10.0° Steel Fiber i110 S
    Miura Hand Grind Raw 58.0° / 10.0° Steel Fiber i110 S
    Miura 1957 KM-005 Black Boron APPN Black Smoke 36 S
    Callaway 2018 Chrome Soft X[/font]
  • tdk8180tdk8180 Advanced Members Posts: 2,392
    Raw finish is the best for irons and wedges in my opinion.



    Chrome is a clean look, but chrome will wear over time anyway.



    There is nothing like the feel of a raw wedge or iron. Any plating on metal will make the head feel harder.



    Raw irons are easier to work with asthetically. You can sand blast them, polish them, rust them, hand sand them, etc. You can do a rich black oxide, a rusty oil can patina, torch finish, polish to a natural silver metal finish. You cant do any of that with chrome plated finish.



    Raw is best!



  • LaymanMLaymanM Cincinnati, OHAdvanced Members Posts: 1,967 ✭✭
    No RAW in US. Have Apex MB chrome sitting in my bag. God I can’t wait for spring!
    PING G400 Max 9*, Adidla Rogue Max 75x
    Callaway 815 Alpha 3W and 5W Speeder 665 stiff
    Srixon U65 4, Modus 105s
    Srixon Z785 5-PW Modus 120s
    Edel DVR 50, s200
    SM7 54F / 58K
    SC Studio Style Newport 2
  • fldawgfanfldawgfan Members Posts: 1
    LaymanM wrote:


    No RAW in US. Have Apex MB chrome sitting in my bag. God I can’t wait for spring!
    Oh well, I quest I will send my money to a shop in the UK, Australia, or Germany. Raw goes on sail there in a week or 2. They are listed on Callaway’s German website.
  • EaglesGolf99EaglesGolf99 (.... Formerly Known As RaidersGolf99) Members, Advanced Members Posts: 2,329 ✭✭
    ****. Crazy.



    Foreign Callaway beating up on Domestic Callaway ....



    Just my two cents.
    [font=lucida sans unicode,lucida grande,sans-serif]2017 WORLD CHAMPION
    PHILADELPHIA EAGLES[/font]


    [font=lucida sans unicode,lucida grande,sans-serif]W. I. T. B.[/font]


    [font=lucida sans unicode,lucida grande,sans-serif]Callaway Epic Flash 9.0° HZRDUS Smoke Black 70 X
    Callaway TC Rogue 4 17.0° HZRDUS Smoke Black 80 X
    Callaway TC Apex 2H 18.0° Tour Spec Speeder 904HB X
    Callaway TC Apex 4H 23.0° Tour Spec Speeder 904HB X
    Callaway X-Forged UT 27.0° Steel Fiber i110 S
    Callaway X-Forged UT 30.0° Steel Fiber i110 S[/font]
    [font=lucida sans unicode,lucida grande,sans-serif]Miura 1957 CB-57 7-8[/font] [font=lucida sans unicode,lucida grande,sans-serif]Steel Fiber i110 S[/font]

    [font=lucida sans unicode,lucida grande,sans-serif]Miura 1957 Baby Blade 9-P Steel Fiber i110 S
    Miura Hand Grind Raw 52.0° / 10.0° Steel Fiber i110 S
    Miura Hand Grind Raw 58.0° / 10.0° Steel Fiber i110 S
    Miura 1957 KM-005 Black Boron APPN Black Smoke 36 S
    Callaway 2018 Chrome Soft X[/font]
  • Lacey UnderallLacey Underall Advanced Members Posts: 1,173
    When the raw MB is released in Europe how can we get our hands on them in the States? Is there a website like TourSpec for Europe?
    2019 WITB
    Driver: Callaway Epic Flash Sub-Zero 10.5* - Project X Hzrdus Black 75 6.5
    3 Wood: Callaway Epic 15* - Aldila Rogue Max 85x
    2-PW: Callaway X-Prototype MBs - Project X 6.5 flighted
    52* Wedge: Callaway MD2 Slate S Grind
    58* Wedge: Callaway MD2 Slate S Grind
    Putter: Odyssey Jailbird Mini
  • PontusPontus Members Posts: 38
    Says 19/1 on their Europe website. Just noticed the MB Raw shows up when viewing "left handed clubs" but the specs says RH only. Praying I'm not going to be bullied once again for being a lefty image/sad.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':(' />
  • PALS-SSAPALS-SSA Advanced Members Posts: 278 ✭✭
    I love raw and the way it feels.
  • PawtucketPawtucket Advanced Members Posts: 177
    ^ image/yes.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':yes:' />
    whats in the bag?
    Cobra f8+ cut 1"
    Cobra F7 fairway
    Srixon z355
    Cleveland 48 wedge
    Ping 54 wedge
    Ping 58 ES wedge
    TM Soto putter
  • Lacey UnderallLacey Underall Advanced Members Posts: 1,173
    Okay just saw they have them up on the UK site:



    http://uk.callawaygolf.com/golf-clubs/iron-sets/irons-2018-apex-mb-oil-finish.html



    Must.....find....way....to.....acquire.
    2019 WITB
    Driver: Callaway Epic Flash Sub-Zero 10.5* - Project X Hzrdus Black 75 6.5
    3 Wood: Callaway Epic 15* - Aldila Rogue Max 85x
    2-PW: Callaway X-Prototype MBs - Project X 6.5 flighted
    52* Wedge: Callaway MD2 Slate S Grind
    58* Wedge: Callaway MD2 Slate S Grind
    Putter: Odyssey Jailbird Mini
  • thekangathekanga Advanced Members Posts: 135 ✭✭
    I ordered from Australia and will pick them up when I'm there next month. Wish I could have ordered them in the US but nope.



  • tobybeartobybear Members, ClubWRX Media Staffer Posts: 1,454 ✭✭


    Okay just saw they have them up on the UK site:



    http://uk.callawaygo...oil-finish.html



    Must.....find....way....to.....acquire.




    Best advice is to find a friend to ship you a set thats the best bet vs, trying to buy online. I'm sure there's a GolfWRX friend who would be happy to help.



    On a side note, I know I would prefer the raw over chrome.
  • chipaudiochipaudio Members Posts: 1
    Is there a WRX member in Europe who would take this on? Please message me and I would love to work something out.
  • ZAPZAP ClubWRX Charter Members Posts: 1,561 ClubWRX
    LaymanM wrote:


    No RAW in US. Have Apex MB chrome sitting in my bag. God I can't wait for spring!




    Wish I could say the same. Only new wedges this year. Too much college. Many college.

    Oh well I really like my Apex MBs that are a generation old very much so don't feel bad.
  • dukemandukeman Advanced Members Posts: 869 ✭✭
    Just asking.....companies go to great lengths to provide a perfectly smooth hitting surface so the wedge will be more accurate. Doesn’t the rusting over time create an irregular surface hence less accuracy?
  • RoseParkRosePark Advanced Members Posts: 749 ✭✭
    Going minimalist....

    PXG 0811XF Gen 2 Evenflow White 65x
    PXG 0311x 15* Altus Tour H8x
    PXG 0311x 23* Altus Tour H8x
    PXG 0311T 31* Modus Tour 105x
    PXG 0311T 39* Modus Tour 105x
    PXG 0311T 47* Modus Tour 105x
    Callaway PM Grind 55* KBS Hi Rev 2.0 115
    PXG Mustang
  • buckeyeflbuckeyefl Advanced Members Posts: 5,236 ✭✭
    dukeman wrote:


    Just asking.....companies go to great lengths to provide a perfectly smooth hitting surface so the wedge will be more accurate. Doesn't the rusting over time create an irregular surface hence less accuracy?




    nope
  • Lacey UnderallLacey Underall Advanced Members Posts: 1,173
    dukeman wrote:


    Just asking.....companies go to great lengths to provide a perfectly smooth hitting surface so the wedge will be more accurate. Doesn't the rusting over time create an irregular surface hence less accuracy?


    Its an interesting thought. But I agree.......the answer is no. I'd say over 50% or more of the PGA tour players use raw wedges. Enough said there.
    2019 WITB
    Driver: Callaway Epic Flash Sub-Zero 10.5* - Project X Hzrdus Black 75 6.5
    3 Wood: Callaway Epic 15* - Aldila Rogue Max 85x
    2-PW: Callaway X-Prototype MBs - Project X 6.5 flighted
    52* Wedge: Callaway MD2 Slate S Grind
    58* Wedge: Callaway MD2 Slate S Grind
    Putter: Odyssey Jailbird Mini
  • EaglesGolf99EaglesGolf99 (.... Formerly Known As RaidersGolf99) Members, Advanced Members Posts: 2,329 ✭✭
    edited January 2018
    RosePark wrote:




    Wait!



    So that's in the US?



    EDIT ... So yes, my answer to my question is yes. Lol. Read little further, Goof.
    [font=lucida sans unicode,lucida grande,sans-serif]2017 WORLD CHAMPION
    PHILADELPHIA EAGLES[/font]


    [font=lucida sans unicode,lucida grande,sans-serif]W. I. T. B.[/font]


    [font=lucida sans unicode,lucida grande,sans-serif]Callaway Epic Flash 9.0° HZRDUS Smoke Black 70 X
    Callaway TC Rogue 4 17.0° HZRDUS Smoke Black 80 X
    Callaway TC Apex 2H 18.0° Tour Spec Speeder 904HB X
    Callaway TC Apex 4H 23.0° Tour Spec Speeder 904HB X
    Callaway X-Forged UT 27.0° Steel Fiber i110 S
    Callaway X-Forged UT 30.0° Steel Fiber i110 S[/font]
    [font=lucida sans unicode,lucida grande,sans-serif]Miura 1957 CB-57 7-8[/font] [font=lucida sans unicode,lucida grande,sans-serif]Steel Fiber i110 S[/font]

    [font=lucida sans unicode,lucida grande,sans-serif]Miura 1957 Baby Blade 9-P Steel Fiber i110 S
    Miura Hand Grind Raw 52.0° / 10.0° Steel Fiber i110 S
    Miura Hand Grind Raw 58.0° / 10.0° Steel Fiber i110 S
    Miura 1957 KM-005 Black Boron APPN Black Smoke 36 S
    Callaway 2018 Chrome Soft X[/font]
  • thekangathekanga Advanced Members Posts: 135 ✭✭
    Just received this teaser picture. Picking them up on Sunday.



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  • Mark_CrossanMark_Crossan Advanced Members Posts: 277 ✭✭
    Is there a place to get them in the US then now?



    I'm living in Australia now and they have them online here. If you're struggling then I can always help out If someone wants them shipping.



    I.e. Get them sent to my house and I can post them at the post office (obviously if you guys pay for the postage) if it's cheaper than ordering them off a foreign site and paying for postage.

  • bladehunterbladehunter Today was a good day.... Advanced Members Posts: 24,232 ✭✭

    RosePark wrote:




    Wait!



    So that's in the US?



    EDIT ... So yes, my answer to my question is yes. Lol. Read little further, Goof.






    So thy are available in the us now?
    TM Tour M6 11.2 * KK Tini XTS 70X
    TM Tour 17 M1 14.5* Graphite Design AD DI 8X
    Ping i500 pre-production proto 3 iron Graphite Design AD DI 105X
    Ping i500 4-pw Modus 130X
    Ping Glide Forged 50 54 60 S400
    Cameron GSS 009 1.5 tungsten sole weights, sound slot
  • apprenti23apprenti23 ClubWRX Charter Members Posts: 3,885


    RosePark wrote:




    Wait!



    So that's in the US?



    EDIT ... So yes, my answer to my question is yes. Lol. Read little further, Goof.






    So thy are available in the us now?


    Yes but very limited
  • rightslicerightslice Advanced Members Posts: 149 ✭✭
    I think CC has 200 sets. That's one of the best looking irons ever.
  • jonn443jonn443 Jonnystx Advanced Members Posts: 4,566 ✭✭
    rightslice wrote:


    I think CC has 200 sets. That's one of the best looking irons ever.




    Ummm..Try again.... they only have TEN sets... there are only 200 IN THE ENTIRE USA!!!



    $1,300 not including shipping for 3-PW.



    They are B E A U T I F U L.
    AB TP 10.5*/ DI6X
    AB TP 3HL / 757
    XTD 19*/ Fubuki Ax
    DWS 24*/ VS Proto
    J15 CB 5-PW/ Modus 3 125S
    X-Forged MD (50*, 56* 60*)
    Spider Si/ SS Mid SLim 2.0
  • JJordiJJJordiJ Members Posts: 22 ✭✭
    I am living in Europe,the Netherlands, not in stores here for now though, the same for the X Forged and chrome MB, but I can get my hands on them. I need to see and hit them all asap haha.

    I am willing to get some sets if possible, but shipping will not be cheap...
  • Tyler1puttTyler1putt Advanced Members Posts: 116
    I ordered a set of these last Thursday after an independent fitting. They were brilliant. Ended up in the modus 125 X. They were awesome Im a little bit excited
    • Taylormade M4 9.5 Accra TZx455 M5
    • Callaway Epic Sub Zero 15 Accra TZx465 M5
    • Callaway Razr Fit 19 Diamana Whiteboard 73X
    • Callaway Apex Pro 2018 4 Iron Nippon Modus 125X
    • Callaway Apex Oil Can MB 2018 5 - PW Nippon Modus 125X
    • Callaway MD4 Black 52 Nippon Modus 125X
    • Callaway MD4 Black 56 Dynamic Gold Tour Issue S400
    • Callaway MD4 Black 60 Dynamic Gold Tour Issue S400
    • Ping Vault 2.0 ZB in Black
    • Titleist Pro V1
  • DFS PFDDFS PFD Advanced Members Posts: 805 ✭✭
    $1300 from CC for heads only because they're raw. What. A. Joke.
    TC Rogue SZ 8.8* Pro Orange 70TX/ ACCRA TZ5 75 M5
    M2 Tour 15* Kuro Kage DC 70TX
    790 UDI Tensei Pro White 100TX
    4-PW Apex Pro 19 DG X7's
    50* MD4 Raw Tour issue S400
    55* MD4 Raw Tour issue S400
    60* Hi-Toe Tour Issue S400
    J-DAY Spider
  • Tyler1puttTyler1putt Advanced Members Posts: 116
    The price I paid was the same in sterling within £50 anyway of the mp18 in the same set up
    • Taylormade M4 9.5 Accra TZx455 M5
    • Callaway Epic Sub Zero 15 Accra TZx465 M5
    • Callaway Razr Fit 19 Diamana Whiteboard 73X
    • Callaway Apex Pro 2018 4 Iron Nippon Modus 125X
    • Callaway Apex Oil Can MB 2018 5 - PW Nippon Modus 125X
    • Callaway MD4 Black 52 Nippon Modus 125X
    • Callaway MD4 Black 56 Dynamic Gold Tour Issue S400
    • Callaway MD4 Black 60 Dynamic Gold Tour Issue S400
    • Ping Vault 2.0 ZB in Black
    • Titleist Pro V1
  • johnl3579johnl3579 Members Posts: 53
    I've had my raw MB's for a few weeks now, just starting to rust nicely - the price was the same as the chrome model. I was also told by the rep that they are a limited run in the UK, so appears to be the same across the globe.



    Well worth the investment if you can get your hands on them, I know feel is subjective but they feel/sound softer than my MP18's.
  • LaymanMLaymanM Cincinnati, OHAdvanced Members Posts: 1,967 ✭✭
    I have the chrome version with Project X LZ 6.0. Played twice. Once in a Par 3 9 hole (it was freezing 33 degrees and started snowing) and one 18 hole round. Irons are fabulous. Easy to hit. Good strikes were right at the flag with perfect distance. Slight miss hits were only a few yards short. Bad strikes were online but short. Need more time to judge because it was so windy when I played. Left easy up and down opportunities.



    I am hitting a lot more greens because my dispersion left and right is much much tighter and I can fire at the flag without worrying I am going to fly the green. No hot spots on these bad boys.



    I love these irons. Easy to hit. Great dispersion, great spin. Amazing feel. AW is very versaitile around the green. I am pitching and chipping very good with it. My handicap was 10 at end of last season. 1st round in winter conditions (windy and water logged course) I shot an 80, 8 over. One of my best scores at this course.



    Blades aren’t for everyone, but for me, I can really feel where the head is theough the swing and control the face. This along with the feel gives me tremendous confidence.



    Regardless, if you like blades you will love these! Wonder if Raw feels any different than chrome. I love the chrome playing so doubt I would have gone raw. Chrome has that classic look and are almost too pretty to hit lol
    PING G400 Max 9*, Adidla Rogue Max 75x
    Callaway 815 Alpha 3W and 5W Speeder 665 stiff
    Srixon U65 4, Modus 105s
    Srixon Z785 5-PW Modus 120s
    Edel DVR 50, s200
    SM7 54F / 58K
    SC Studio Style Newport 2
  • thekangathekanga Advanced Members Posts: 135 ✭✭
    johnl3579 wrote:


    I've had my raw MB's for a few weeks now, just starting to rust nicely - the price was the same as the chrome model. I was also told by the rep that they are a limited run in the UK, so appears to be the same across the globe.



    Well worth the investment if you can get your hands on them, I know feel is subjective but they feel/sound softer than my MP18's.




    Same price for raw and chrome in Australia. Only had mine a week with a single round, no rusting yet.
  • morrisminormorrisminor Come back zinc! Come back! Advanced Members Posts: 194 ✭✭


    This has been one of my talking points for some time. I firmly believe that raw irons/wedges last longer. If you look at any used iron/wedge its typically the chrome finish that shows the wear. Why do people send their clubs off to get refinished? To put a fresh new coat of chrome on them! I only use raw wedges and they last forever. Unless you play on a really sandy surface (then you have no hope either way).




    Sorry to be mr pedantic but the opposite is true. The chrome plating is much harder than the steel underneath so technically they clubs will last longer than raw clubs - by the amount of time it takes to wear through the chrome plating. That being said, wear through the chrome layer looks awful so it gives the impression of being worn out long before it would have an effect on performance.



    It would be possible to buy a chrome set and when browning occurs from use have the chrome layer removed - the resulting raw clubs would then have the same life expectancy as the new raw club. The trick is to find somewhere to have it dechromed that wouldn't turn it into the golf club equivalent of freddy krueger!



    However, I would always choose a raw club when available. IMHO they look better both in the bag and at address, and they remind me of hickories!
    Ping G20 10.5* Fujikura Speeder 65X
    Titleist 910F 15* Aldila NV 75X
    Callaway Steelhead III 5w Uniflex Steel
    Mizuno MX-300 4i Dynalite Gold XP R300
    Mizuno MX-300 5i Dynamic Gold S300
    Mizuno MP-57 6-PW Dynamic Gold S300
    Mizuno MP T10 @ 53*, Cleveland 588 60*
    Yes! Pippi Putter
  • CaseyDanCaseyDan Advanced Members Posts: 752 ✭✭
    Posted these in another thread, but probably should have added them to this thread instead. Nonetheless, these just arrived!



    [font=lucida sans unicode,lucida grande,sans-serif]TaylorMade M2 Tensie Pro White 60s[/font]
    [font=lucida sans unicode,lucida grande,sans-serif]Titleist TS2 Diamana 70s Blueboard[/font]
    [font=lucida sans unicode,lucida grande,sans-serif]Callaway Apex 2019 w/ Elevate Tour[/font]
    [font=lucida sans unicode,lucida grande,sans-serif]Vokey SM7 52.12F Raw [/font]
    [font=lucida sans unicode,lucida grande,sans-serif]TaylorMade 58* Hi-Toe [/font]
    [font=lucida sans unicode,lucida grande,sans-serif]Scotty Cameron MilSpec 33/350[/font]
  • pierso2pierso2 Shooters Shoot Advanced Members Posts: 2,605 ✭✭
    Pontus wrote:


    So I just heard from a local fitter that Callaway are making the apex mb "raw" version available for leftys 2018 in Sweden. Huge fan of the look you get with a raw finish. But since they does not come cheap and I will use them for some years (I hope so atleast). How will the raw finish/ rust affect the life cycle compared to a forged non-raw finish??




    This is the best post I've read in a while! I'd love to pick up a set of them especially if they make them for left handed golfers. Oh Callaway, how you tease me back into playing your clubs after I swore you off...
    Option 1
    Ping G400 LST 8.5 Tour-X
    Callaway Big Bertha 816 Alpha 16 AD-DI 8x black
    Nike VR Pro 3 hybrid project x 6.0
    Adams XTD Forged 4-PW Fujikura MCI 120S
    Adams MB2 GW
    Callaway Mac Daddy Forged 60
    Toulon Garage Atlanta Black Pearl
    Ping 4 Series Tour Edition White/ Bridgestone 2014 Tour Bag

    Option 2
    Taylormade 2016 M1 10.5 Whiteboard Flowerband 7x
    16 Taylormade M1 5 wood AD-TP 7s
    Ping Anser 20 stock stiff
    Taylormade 2016 M2 Tour XP105 stiff
    Cleveland RTX 2.0 52 deg raw
    Titleist Vokey Prototype 58 T Grind
    Carbon Ringo Raw Whisky

    http://www.gamegolf.com/player/pierso2
  • cdncdn Members Posts: 51 ✭✭
    pierso2 wrote:

    Pontus wrote:


    So I just heard from a local fitter that Callaway are making the apex mb "raw" version available for leftys 2018 in Sweden. Huge fan of the look you get with a raw finish. But since they does not come cheap and I will use them for some years (I hope so atleast). How will the raw finish/ rust affect the life cycle compared to a forged non-raw finish??




    This is the best post I've read in a while! I'd love to pick up a set of them especially if they make them for left handed golfers. Oh Callaway, how you tease me back into playing your clubs after I swore you off...




    They're available now in England in lefty, 929 £
  • Paul065Paul065 Advanced Members Posts: 191
    Probably going to pull the trigger on a set of these in the next 48hrs. £900 for a 4-PW set with project x 6.0’s and new decade multi compound blacks.
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    Mizuno CLK 2. 16 degree. Speeder Evolution HB 75 S

    Mizuno MP 18 Fli Hi 3 iron Project X LZ 6.5 125g

    Mizuno MP 18 SC 4-6, MB 7-PW, Project X LZ 6.5 125g

    Titleist Vokey SM7 Raw: 50 (12) F, 54 (08) M, 58 (12) D

    Ping Sedona

    Titleist Pro V1x (2017)
  • texasvolfantexasvolfan Advanced Members Posts: 89
    For those buying in the US, are you buying through CC or somewhere else?
    Cobra F8+ Evenflow black 6.0
    Callaway Rogue 3w Evenflow blue 6.5
    Adams Idea Pro a12 18
    Callaway UT 4 iron 24 DG x100
    Callaway x-forged 2018 5-PW DG x100
    Vokey SM6 50, 54, 58 DGx100
    Scotty Cameron Newport 2 2011
  • desailledesaille Advanced Members Posts: 1,631 ✭✭
    For those that have a set

    How’s the offset? Hoping the offset is less



    To my eyes, the chromed version has a weird transition from hosel to head at address.
  • FritzerFritzer Advanced Members Posts: 146 ✭✭
    Where can we find these online in the us since cc is sold out?



    Have told myself since the pics of the raw version showed up on here that if I were to go in on new clubs, these would be it! Hoping there's still some out there.
  • CaseyDanCaseyDan Advanced Members Posts: 752 ✭✭
    Fritzer wrote:


    Where can we find these online in the us since cc is sold out?



    Have told myself since the pics of the raw version showed up on here that if I were to go in on new clubs, these would be it! Hoping there's still some out there.




    I'm not sure what other shop got these. CC seemed to be the only place advertising them. You may want to reach out to Callaway and ask them.
    [font=lucida sans unicode,lucida grande,sans-serif]TaylorMade M2 Tensie Pro White 60s[/font]
    [font=lucida sans unicode,lucida grande,sans-serif]Titleist TS2 Diamana 70s Blueboard[/font]
    [font=lucida sans unicode,lucida grande,sans-serif]Callaway Apex 2019 w/ Elevate Tour[/font]
    [font=lucida sans unicode,lucida grande,sans-serif]Vokey SM7 52.12F Raw [/font]
    [font=lucida sans unicode,lucida grande,sans-serif]TaylorMade 58* Hi-Toe [/font]
    [font=lucida sans unicode,lucida grande,sans-serif]Scotty Cameron MilSpec 33/350[/font]
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