New Chrome Soft and Chrome Soft X

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  • xxioxxio Members Posts: 5,659 ✭✭
    I still have 1 doz of the '16 left.



    Saving them for the Club Championships.



    I won the B Flight with them last year.



    The '17 doesn't feel as soft off the putter and seems to be lower trajectory off the driver. I use those for regular play.
  • nsxguynsxguy Just anudder user FloridaMembers Posts: 5,299 ✭✭
    QMany wrote:

    Brizam wrote:


    HUGE mistake moving the price up to $44.99



    I think a large part of the appeal of the Chrome Soft line of balls is the price point. I wont be surprised to see market share slip a little bit with the higher price.



    I tested the '18 CSX and really liked it. Does every thing I want a ball to do. but at $5 more than my Srixon Z-Star




    I agree, jumping to $45 is a mistake. With the addition of Graphene, I can understand a small price increase, but go to $42.XX.



    TP5 line is also $45, right? What are they asking for ProV1 these days? image/busted_cop.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':busted_cop:' />




    May I ask how many balls you go through in a typical round ?



    I mean you DO realize you're talking about $.50 cents per ball, yes ?

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  • grm24grm24 Western PAMembers Posts: 2,997 ✭✭
    QMany wrote:

    SwingMan wrote:


    When Titleist does its 4 dz for price of 3 with customization on March 15, price per dz may be about $38/dz - $150-60. I suspect a lot of ProV1s will be sold.


    Non-promotion, what is MSRP now, $48?
    MSRP for the Pro-V1 line is $62. Street price is $47.99
  • moonshinemoonshine 64 @ Augusta? No problem! North Charleston, SCClubWRX Posts: 6,349 ✭✭
    Rep was at local course yesterday...told him love cs x and he handed me sleeve of new ball. Cutaway shows completely different ball. Initially I thought it was a tad bit harder...can't really say for sure without side by side. Also think it flies a bit lower. Still love last years for sure. New irons looked great!
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  • Gary GutfulGary Gutful Members Posts: 1,167 ✭✭
    nsxguy wrote:

    QMany wrote:

    Brizam wrote:


    HUGE mistake moving the price up to $44.99



    I think a large part of the appeal of the Chrome Soft line of balls is the price point. I wont be surprised to see market share slip a little bit with the higher price.



    I tested the '18 CSX and really liked it. Does every thing I want a ball to do. but at $5 more than my Srixon Z-Star




    I agree, jumping to $45 is a mistake. With the addition of Graphene, I can understand a small price increase, but go to $42.XX.



    TP5 line is also $45, right? What are they asking for ProV1 these days? image/busted_cop.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':busted_cop:' />




    May I ask how many balls you go through in a typical round ?



    I mean you DO realize you're talking about $.50 cents per ball, yes ?




    You really don't like it when people complain about the cost of balls do you?
  • nsxguynsxguy Just anudder user FloridaMembers Posts: 5,299 ✭✭

    nsxguy wrote:

    QMany wrote:

    Brizam wrote:


    HUGE mistake moving the price up to $44.99



    I think a large part of the appeal of the Chrome Soft line of balls is the price point. I wont be surprised to see market share slip a little bit with the higher price.



    I tested the '18 CSX and really liked it. Does every thing I want a ball to do. but at $5 more than my Srixon Z-Star




    I agree, jumping to $45 is a mistake. With the addition of Graphene, I can understand a small price increase, but go to $42.XX.



    TP5 line is also $45, right? What are they asking for ProV1 these days? image/busted_cop.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':busted_cop:' />




    May I ask how many balls you go through in a typical round ?



    I mean you DO realize you're talking about $.50 cents per ball, yes ?




    You really don't like it when people complain about the cost of balls do you?




    My, and your(?), ancestors had a saying - "Penny-wise and pound foolish". It's a point I actually agree with. image/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />

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  • sirparalotsirparalot Members Posts: 706 ✭✭
    Saw the ball and hit the ball at the PGA show. They were only allowing you to hit with irons into net at demo day image/sad.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':(' /> They were doing comparison to proV vs CS to show ball speed improvement. Ball speed was a solid 2-3 mph better vs. proV for just about every golfer who was doing the challenge. They were posting results on a scoreboard. They are really hyping the ball speed with irons as the true differentiator. Ball felt great (similar to CS16 feel). I also spent some time with the head of ball R&D and he said CS and CSX are very close in performance tee to green and most people will not see a difference between the 2 if they carry a SS of 95-105 so you could play either ball without worrying about distance/performance loss. The difference will be seen around the green where the softer cover of the CSX will create more spin. They gave me a couple of CS and a CSX to try out on the course. Should be giving them a go early next week.
  • KonkliferKonklifer Thinkin' of a master plan... location, location.Members Posts: 7,802 ✭✭
    edited Jan 26, 2018 #189
    sirparalot wrote:


    Saw the ball and hit the ball at the PGA show. They were only allowing you to hit with irons into net at demo day image/sad.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':(' /> They were doing comparison to proV vs CS to show ball speed improvement. Ball speed was a solid 2-3 mph better vs. proV for just about every golfer who was doing the challenge. They were posting results on a scoreboard. They are really hyping the ball speed with irons as the true differentiator. Ball felt great (similar to CS16 feel). I also spent some time with the head of ball R&D and he said CS and CSX are very close in performance tee to green and most people will not see a difference between the 2 if they carry a SS of 95-105 so you could play either ball without worrying about distance/performance loss. The difference will be seen around the green where the softer cover of the CSX will create more spin. They gave me a couple of CS and a CSX to try out on the course. Should be giving them a go early next week.




    Interesting that X versions of balls (CSX, ProV1x, TP5x) are all of a sudden the spinnier versions. From what you are saying, I would want the CSX as my SS is between 95 & 100 and prefer a spinnier ball.
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  • sirparalotsirparalot Members Posts: 706 ✭✭
    Konklifer wrote:

    sirparalot wrote:


    Saw the ball and hit the ball at the PGA show. They were only allowing you to hit with irons into net at demo day image/sad.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':(' /> They were doing comparison to proV vs CS to show ball speed improvement. Ball speed was a solid 2-3 mph better vs. proV for just about every golfer who was doing the challenge. They were posting results on a scoreboard. They are really hyping the ball speed with irons as the true differentiator. Ball felt great (similar to CS16 feel). I also spent some time with the head of ball R&D and he said CS and CSX are very close in performance tee to green and most people will not see a difference between the 2 if they carry a SS of 95-105 so you could play either ball without worrying about distance/performance loss. The difference will be seen around the green where the softer cover of the CSX will create more spin. They gave me a couple of CS and a CSX to try out on the course. Should be giving them a go early next week.




    Interesting that X versions of balls (CSX, ProV1x, TP5x) are all of a sudden the spinnier versions. From what you are saying, I would want the CSX as my SS is between 95 & 100 and prefer a spinnier ball.


    Yes he told me I would not tell the difference tee to green (I have 97mph ss). If 1 hop and stop is your style of short game play than X is what he recommended. He was very adamant that their goal was to create the balls so that there was little difference between them for most golfers tee to green. They focused on spin slope in the short game as the differentiating factor.
  • LondonerLondoner Posts: 1,166 ✭✭
    Graphene is currently approx £70 per gramm so we can guess how much is in each ball. And whatever happend to Titanium in balls? image/taunt.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':taunt:' />
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  • aussiebaussieb Lefty Boomers Posts: 808 ✭✭
    Can anybody confirm for me that when graphene is put into compression, the tension values increase exponentially? In other words, the harder the hit the ball, the stronger the bonds become. I seem to remember with Head R&D that the faster you swung the racket, the firmer it would play.
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  • LondonerLondoner Posts: 1,166 ✭✭
    aussieb wrote:


    Can anybody confirm for me that when graphene is put into compression, the tension values increase exponentially? In other words, the harder the hit the ball, the stronger the bonds become. I seem to remember with Head R&D that the faster you swung the racket, the firmer it would play.


    I think you're thinkjng of crazy putty. image/taunt.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':taunt:' />
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  • aussiebaussieb Lefty Boomers Posts: 808 ✭✭
    Londoner wrote:

    aussieb wrote:


    Can anybody confirm for me that when graphene is put into compression, the tension values increase exponentially? In other words, the harder the hit the ball, the stronger the bonds become. I seem to remember with Head R&D that the faster you swung the racket, the firmer it would play.


    I think you're thinkjng of crazy putty. image/taunt.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':taunt:' />




    Never mind I found the dynamic response of graphene. It's a nano-composite that behaves differently because of the non-planar bonds. Resonance anomalies observed that are still unexplained. Cooler than crazy putty....
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  • kermitmkermitm ClubWRX Posts: 233 ClubWRX
    Am I correct in saying that the CSX will provide more spin around the green? If so, how is this possible. Thanks for your help
  • Kenny Lee PuckettKenny Lee Puckett Members Posts: 3,460 ✭✭
    edited Jan 27, 2018 #196
    kermitm wrote:


    Am I correct in saying that the CSX will provide more spin around the green? If so, how is this possible. Thanks for your help
    They altered the thickness of the urethane in the cover.



    edit: I have two dozen already and have played the ball. It is excellent. Grab a box when they come out, you will not be disappointed!
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  • endyendy Members Posts: 3,099 ✭✭

    kermitm wrote:


    Am I correct in saying that the CSX will provide more spin around the green? If so, how is this possible. Thanks for your help
    They altered the thickness of the urethane in the cover.



    edit: I have two dozen already and have played the ball. It is excellent. Grab a box when they come out, you will not be disappointed!




    Any comparisons to the TP5X or Srixon Z Star XV ??
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  • Kenny Lee PuckettKenny Lee Puckett Members Posts: 3,460 ✭✭
    edited Jan 28, 2018 #198
    endy wrote:


    kermitm wrote:


    Am I correct in saying that the CSX will provide more spin around the green? If so, how is this possible. Thanks for your help
    They altered the thickness of the urethane in the cover.



    edit: I have two dozen already and have played the ball. It is excellent. Grab a box when they come out, you will not be disappointed!




    Any comparisons to the TP5X or Srixon Z Star XV ??
    Endy, The '17 SRiXON Z XV is in my Sig. I find it to be a very firm ball, but I have gotten used to this and now prefer the feel of it. The Z XV is as good as it gets IMO for my game.



    Over time I've been given numerous sleeves of TP5 & TP5x and gave them all away... except one, and I played it. Admittedly I am not a TaylorMade guy and don't go out of my way to hype them up. But I'll still be completely candid when something I usually don't like kicks @ss... the golf ball is incredible. IMO it may be the best overall tour ball on the market. There is nothing it doesn't do well. And I would definitely give it slightly better marks in terms of "feel" (and let's be honest, who really knows what that means... it's completely subjective, and different to/for each player) compared to Z XV.



    CS X 2018 is just that, a Chrome Soft. IMO it has nothing to do with the other two balls and is in a category unto itself. Soft, soft, soft is the only way I can describe it. Not noting this in a negative way, it's just completely different. I was impressed with this particular Chrome Soft ball off the driver (yay graphene!). It doesn't spin much and subsequently has a very nice decent angle. All irons and through the wedges were stellar. edit: Definitely saw the extra "softness" come out of it around the green. To me it feels exquisite. image/good.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':good:' />
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  • hurricanes7hurricanes7 Members Posts: 2,846 ✭✭
    i think Graphene is my new favorite word
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  • MorryMorry Posts: 822 ✭✭
    endy wrote:


    kermitm wrote:


    Am I correct in saying that the CSX will provide more spin around the green? If so, how is this possible. Thanks for your help
    They altered the thickness of the urethane in the cover.



    edit: I have two dozen already and have played the ball. It is excellent. Grab a box when they come out, you will not be disappointed!




    Any comparisons to the TP5X or Srixon Z Star XV ??


    Keenly interested in the same - new CSx vs. XV
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  • Hat TrickHat Trick Members Posts: 543 ✭✭
    You will have to look close at the packaging... I was at Golf Galaxy yesterday and they were selling the old and new versions for $39.99 (not the 31.99 for the old that they were priced at).
  • lawsonmanlawsonman Members Posts: 5,164 ✭✭


    i think Graphene is my new favorite word




    Mine too. I think I'll try it in my coffee.
    Welcome to where dumb opinions are better than no opinion. :)

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  • endyendy Members Posts: 3,099 ✭✭

    endy wrote:


    kermitm wrote:


    Am I correct in saying that the CSX will provide more spin around the green? If so, how is this possible. Thanks for your help
    They altered the thickness of the urethane in the cover.



    edit: I have two dozen already and have played the ball. It is excellent. Grab a box when they come out, you will not be disappointed!




    Any comparisons to the TP5X or Srixon Z Star XV ??
    Endy, The '17 SRiXON Z XV is in my Sig. I find it to be a very firm ball, but I have gotten used to it and now prefer the feel of it. The Z XV is as good as it gets IMO for my game.



    Over time I've been given numerous sleeves of TP5 & TP5x and gave them all away... except one. Admittedly I am not a TaylorMade guy and don't go out of my way to hype them up. But I'll still be completely candid when something I usually don't like kicks @ss... the golf ball is incredible. IMO it may be the best overall tour ball on the market. There is nothing it doesn't do well. And I would definitely give it slightly better marks in terms of "feel" (and let's be honest, who really knows what that means... it's completely subjective, and different to/for each player) compared to Z XV.



    CS X 2018 is just that, a Chrome Soft. IMO it has nothing to do with the other two balls and is in a category unto itself. Soft, soft, soft is the only way I can describe it. Not noting this in a negative way, it's just completely different. I was impressed with this particular Chrome Soft ball off the driver. It doesn't spin much and subsequently has a very nice decent angle. All irons and through the wedges were stellar. edit: Definitely saw the extra "softness" come out of it around the green. To me it feels exquisite. image/good.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':good:' />




    Thanks! Might have to give it a try. I play the 17 XV myself and have a few sleeves of the TP5X left. The XV is definitely a firmer ball but like you said you get used to it since it does everything well.
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  • sirparalotsirparalot Members Posts: 706 ✭✭
    kermitm wrote:


    Am I correct in saying that the CSX will provide more spin around the green? If so, how is this possible. Thanks for your help


    The cover material on the X is softer allowing it to grab the grooves a bit more and spin a bit higher around the green. Here is the info straight off Callaway's site:



    Which Ball Should You Play?


    Chrome Soft and Chrome Soft X both deliver the same core performance attributes for fast ball speeds, soft feel and great short game control. But if you want an easy way to differentiate between the two, here it is:


    Chrome Soft: Softest feel, best forgiveness, straight flight


    Chrome Soft X: Soft feel, high forgiveness, workable flight
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    God how I love marketing!! image/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' /> image/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />
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  • MorryMorry Posts: 822 ✭✭
    sirparalot wrote:

    Konklifer wrote:

    sirparalot wrote:


    Saw the ball and hit the ball at the PGA show. They were only allowing you to hit with irons into net at demo day image/sad.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':(' /> They were doing comparison to proV vs CS to show ball speed improvement. Ball speed was a solid 2-3 mph better vs. proV for just about every golfer who was doing the challenge. They were posting results on a scoreboard. They are really hyping the ball speed with irons as the true differentiator. Ball felt great (similar to CS16 feel). I also spent some time with the head of ball R&D and he said CS and CSX are very close in performance tee to green and most people will not see a difference between the 2 if they carry a SS of 95-105 so you could play either ball without worrying about distance/performance loss. The difference will be seen around the green where the softer cover of the CSX will create more spin. They gave me a couple of CS and a CSX to try out on the course. Should be giving them a go early next week.




    Interesting that X versions of balls (CSX, ProV1x, TP5x) are all of a sudden the spinnier versions. From what you are saying, I would want the CSX as my SS is between 95 & 100 and prefer a spinnier ball.


    Yes he told me I would not tell the difference tee to green (I have 97mph ss). If 1 hop and stop is your style of short game play than X is what he recommended. He was very adamant that their goal was to create the balls so that there was little difference between them for most golfers tee to green. They focused on spin slope in the short game as the differentiating factor.




    This differentiating factor is Excellent news

    It does, however, seem to contradict the statement on the website



    which is it then?

    since not being able to tell the difference tee to green outside of pitch/chip and "workable flight" are 2 very different animals



    any more insight appreciated
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  • nsxguynsxguy Just anudder user FloridaMembers Posts: 5,299 ✭✭
    sirparalot wrote:




    The cover material on the X is softer allowing it to grab the grooves a bit more and spin a bit higher around the green. Here is the info straight off Callaway's site:



    Which Ball Should You Play?

    Chrome Soft and Chrome Soft X both deliver the same core performance attributes for fast ball speeds, soft feel and great short game control. But if you want an easy way to differentiate between the two, here it is:

    Chrome Soft: Softest feel, best forgiveness, straight flight

    Chrome Soft X: Soft feel, high forgiveness, workable flight




    Translation



    spins less



    spins more



    image/hi.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':hi:' />




    Morry wrote:

    sirparalot wrote:

    Konklifer wrote:

    sirparalot wrote:


    Saw the ball and hit the ball at the PGA show. They were only allowing you to hit with irons into net at demo day image/sad.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':(' /> They were doing comparison to proV vs CS to show ball speed improvement. Ball speed was a solid 2-3 mph better vs. proV for just about every golfer who was doing the challenge. They were posting results on a scoreboard. They are really hyping the ball speed with irons as the true differentiator. Ball felt great (similar to CS16 feel). I also spent some time with the head of ball R&D and he said CS and CSX are very close in performance tee to green and most people will not see a difference between the 2 if they carry a SS of 95-105 so you could play either ball without worrying about distance/performance loss. The difference will be seen around the green where the softer cover of the CSX will create more spin. They gave me a couple of CS and a CSX to try out on the course. Should be giving them a go early next week.




    Interesting that X versions of balls (CSX, ProV1x, TP5x) are all of a sudden the spinnier versions. From what you are saying, I would want the CSX as my SS is between 95 & 100 and prefer a spinnier ball.


    Yes he told me I would not tell the difference tee to green (I have 97mph ss). If 1 hop and stop is your style of short game play than X is what he recommended. He was very adamant that their goal was to create the balls so that there was little difference between them for most golfers tee to green. They focused on spin slope in the short game as the differentiating factor.




    This differentiating factor is Excellent news

    It does, however, seem to contradict the statement on the website



    which is it then?

    since not being able to tell the difference tee to green outside of pitch/chip and "workable flight" are 2 very different animals



    any more insight appreciated




    See above.

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  • MorryMorry Posts: 822 ✭✭
    thanks - I understand, but You sure can notice more spin tee to green though

    so I would still like a little more insight into the difference for these if any outside on just spin overall



    I find the tp5 has a lot more spin tee to green (outside of pitch/chip) than the tp5x for instance

    wondering if this is the same or different profile

    appreciated
    Ping G400 10.5 - EvenFlow Blue 6.0 / TPT 17 MKP
    Callaway Fusion 3W - Fuji Evo III S
    Srixon U65 18* - EvenFlow Blue 85 6.0
    Taylormade 790 4-P - Modus 105-S
    Cleveland RTX-4 50, 56, 60 - Modus wedge 115,115,125
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  • neild76neild76 Members Posts: 322 ✭✭
    sirparalot wrote:

    kermitm wrote:


    Am I correct in saying that the CSX will provide more spin around the green? If so, how is this possible. Thanks for your help


    The cover material on the X is softer allowing it to grab the grooves a bit more and spin a bit higher around the green. Here is the info straight off Callaway's site:



    Which Ball Should You Play?

    Chrome Soft and Chrome Soft X both deliver the same core performance attributes for fast ball speeds, soft feel and great short game control. But if you want an easy way to differentiate between the two, here it is:

    Chrome Soft: Softest feel, best forgiveness, straight flight

    Chrome Soft X: Soft feel, high forgiveness, workable flight





    Can we use this as a general rule for all premium balls using the regular and X markings?



    It seems like all of the manufacturers are trying to line up on that, which makes sense. But I'm still fairly confused.
  • StumpnavStumpnav Members Posts: 141 ✭✭
    I've had a chance to test the CSX18 for about a month. It spins less off the driver and I have been getting about 10 yds more with it than the CS17. The shorter the club, the more spin it seems to have. Stops better on pitches and chips than the CS17 or CSX17.
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    Epic 3W
    Epic Heavenwood
    (or Callaway UT XForged 18*)
    Callaway XForged 4-6
    Callaway MB 7-A
    Callaway MD Forged 56, 60
    Odyssey RSX001
    Chrome Soft X 18
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