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  • McgeenoMcgeeno Advanced Members Posts: 1,927 ✭✭
    I'm still rocking the F7 one lengths which were all the same lie/length.



    I don't know if I can wrap my head around the newer sets and the changing lie angles that increase from PW-4.



    I'm firmly in the SL crowd though. Havent even flirted with switching in 2 years.
  • RohlioRohlio Advanced Members Posts: 2,290 ✭✭
    Cobra Forged OL same lie 4-P



    I see no reason to have changing lies in the set.
    WITB:
    Driver: Ping G400 LST 8.5* Kuro Kage Silver TINI 70s
    FW: Ping G25 4 wood Kuro Kage Silver TINI 80s
    Utility: 20* King Forged Utility One Length C Taper Lite S
    Irons: King Forged One Length 4-PW C Taper Lite S
    Wedges: Cleveland 588 RTX 2.0 Black Satin 50, 54, 58
    Putter: Custom Directed Force Reno 2.0 48" 80* Lie Side Saddle
  • GalangaGalanga Advanced Members Posts: 699 ✭✭
    edited March 10
    “It’s not a lot of lie angle change in the F8/9 OL, but there is some. There to combat toe droop in the lower lofted irons, as Cobra has found that people swing those clubs faster, even at the same length.”



    Ok - that does make sense. Interesting. In variable length clubs you see that too where often folks have longer irons more upright than the lie progression would dictate. Thank you.
    Post edited by Unknown User on
    • Ping G400 Max 10.5; GD Tour AD DI 6S; 45.25"; D5+
    • Ping G400 14.5; GD AD-F 65 Stiff-Regular; 43"; D4
    • Ping G400 17.5; GD AD-F 65 Stiff-Regular; 42.5"; D3.5
    • Ping G400 19 and 22; GD AD HY 85 Stiff (SS1); D3
    • Ping i210, 50-4i; black dot; +1/2; GD Tour AD 85S graphite shaft; D3.5-4.5
    • Ping Glide 2.0 Stealth 52SS, 54/58ES and 58WS; +1/2; Paderson TS-W shaft (115 gm); D4.5-D5.5
    • Argolf Pendragon; BGT Stability; 34.5/70*
  • wkndhackwkndhack Advanced Members Posts: 908
    Norboo wrote:
    Anyone play their reg set up to 7 iron and add the one length from 6, 5 and 4 irons?


    I play out of 2 bags. My main bag is OL 4-GW. My other bag that I keep at my vacation place is going to be 4-7 OL and the rest VL. I've only done practice and simulator so far and it's been fine, but I'll be alternating between the two this summer and hoping it turns out alright. I switched to OL in the fall but just couldn't justify the expense of replacing a whole other bag with all OL so I cheaped out and did the half set. Long irons were my main issue so I think I'll be alright.
    Cobra King F7+ Evenflow Black 65 6.0
    Cobra King F7 3W Oban Isawa Red 75-04
    Cobra King F6 Baffler Aldila Tour Blue 85S
    Cobra King Utility ONE 21.5 C Taper Lite 110S
    Cobra King Forged Tec Black ONE 5-GW C Taper Lite 110S
    Cobra King Pur 54V, 58V DG S200
    Bettinardi QB8
    Srixon Q-Star Tour
  • HertsjoatmonHertsjoatmon Advanced Members Posts: 165 ✭✭
    Just purchased a few one length fitting irons to try out. will be interesting. f7 9i. f8 7i and f8 5i. Blending one length into my minimalist set.
    [font=courier new,courier,monospace]14 - Mini Dr - Bertha Mini 1.5 - Motore 70 R @42.5" - D2.5
    19 - Fairway - Big Bertha - Kuru Kage Silver 70 R @ 40.5" - D2
    22 - Hybrid - Big Bertha - Kuru Kage Silver 80 R 39" D1.5
    25 - Hybrid - Adams Idea (14) - Ozik X-con 8h R 38.25" - D2
    28 - hybrid iron - Adams Idea (14) - Ping AWT 2.0 R - D2.5
    32 & 36 - hybrid iron - Adams Idea (14) - Ping AWT 2.0 R - D3
    40 & 45- cavity back - Adams Idea (14) - Ping AWT 2.0 R - D3.5
    50 - wedge - Cleveland RTX 2.0 CB - 6 bounce - D4
    55 - wedge - Cleveland RTX 2.0 CB - 11 bounce- D4
    60 - wedge - Ping Tour-W - 8 bounce - D5
    56 - wedge - Cleveland Smart Sole 3.0 - 8 bounce - D4
    Odyssey 2 Ball fang - e6 soft - Sun Mountain Combo Cart / Bag

    On the naughty step - Driver - Callaway GBB (animal style) - Speeder 665 R @ 43.5" - D3

    90mph SS - longest drive 2018 (measured with GameGolf) - 264 yards
    [/font]
  • BtbthfBtbthf Advanced Members Posts: 45
    Rohlio wrote:

    Norboo wrote:


    Anyone play their reg set up to 7 iron and add the one length from 6, 5 and 4 irons?


    somebody in this thread is doing that...had a long conversation about and he seems quite pleased with that type of setup.




    That may have been me but its been a while and I thought my post was a different thread specifically about this setup.



    Anyway, I have 4-7OL in x100 and 8-pw VL in x100 dg pro in the Cobra Forged models. Played like that for back half of last season and have no plans to try anything else unless ping or srixon release a single length set(I can dream lol)



    Reason I like this setup is I hit a lot of flighted and partial shots with the 8-pw and couldn't get the feel with those swings with OL.



    Best part to top it all off was I bought the set for $285 on here last year which was an absolute steal for the forged version of these clubs as they were going for $450 at the time.



    Let me know if you guys have any specific questions as there seem to be a lot of interest in this type of setup.
  • Pack7483Pack7483 Advanced Members Posts: 602 ✭✭


    Just purchased a few one length fitting irons to try out. will be interesting. f7 9i. f8 7i and f8 5i. Blending one length into my minimalist set.




    Great setup for minimal set. I just ordered f9 OL 5i,7i,9i,gw just for a minimalist set.
  • HertsjoatmonHertsjoatmon Advanced Members Posts: 165 ✭✭
    Pack7483 wrote:



    Just purchased a few one length fitting irons to try out. will be interesting. f7 9i. f8 7i and f8 5i. Blending one length into my minimalist set.




    Great setup for minimal set. I just ordered f9 OL 5i,7i,9i,gw just for a minimalist set.




    Thanks. Trying to decide if I want to add a 3 hybrid to that as well but worry I don't have the swing speed to get the gapping with it. I hit a 7 iron 150.



    I have an es14 monitor coming this week so I will test my distances
    [font=courier new,courier,monospace]14 - Mini Dr - Bertha Mini 1.5 - Motore 70 R @42.5" - D2.5
    19 - Fairway - Big Bertha - Kuru Kage Silver 70 R @ 40.5" - D2
    22 - Hybrid - Big Bertha - Kuru Kage Silver 80 R 39" D1.5
    25 - Hybrid - Adams Idea (14) - Ozik X-con 8h R 38.25" - D2
    28 - hybrid iron - Adams Idea (14) - Ping AWT 2.0 R - D2.5
    32 & 36 - hybrid iron - Adams Idea (14) - Ping AWT 2.0 R - D3
    40 & 45- cavity back - Adams Idea (14) - Ping AWT 2.0 R - D3.5
    50 - wedge - Cleveland RTX 2.0 CB - 6 bounce - D4
    55 - wedge - Cleveland RTX 2.0 CB - 11 bounce- D4
    60 - wedge - Ping Tour-W - 8 bounce - D5
    56 - wedge - Cleveland Smart Sole 3.0 - 8 bounce - D4
    Odyssey 2 Ball fang - e6 soft - Sun Mountain Combo Cart / Bag

    On the naughty step - Driver - Callaway GBB (animal style) - Speeder 665 R @ 43.5" - D3

    90mph SS - longest drive 2018 (measured with GameGolf) - 264 yards
    [/font]
  • extrastiffextrastiff Advanced Members Posts: 855 ✭✭
    edited March 13
    Btbthf wrote:

    Rohlio wrote:

    Norboo wrote:


    Anyone play their reg set up to 7 iron and add the one length from 6, 5 and 4 irons?


    somebody in this thread is doing that...had a long conversation about and he seems quite pleased with that type of setup.




    That may have been me but its been a while and I thought my post was a different thread specifically about this setup.



    Anyway, I have 4-7OL in x100 and 8-pw VL in x100 dg pro in the Cobra Forged models. Played like that for back half of last season and have no plans to try anything else unless ping or srixon release a single length set(I can dream lol)



    Reason I like this setup is I hit a lot of flighted and partial shots with the 8-pw and couldn't get the feel with those swings with OL.



    Best part to top it all off was I bought the set for $285 on here last year which was an absolute steal for the forged version of these clubs as they were going for $450 at the time.



    Let me know if you guys have any specific questions as there seem to be a lot of interest in this type of setup.


    i opined back and forth with someone earlier in the thread as well. In the back and forth i ended up linking the thread Btbthf mentions, as it included many members seeing promising results with the approach. i am very happy with the setup.



    Could I add a tiny bit of length to my 4 and 5 iron and appreciate the few extra yards and bigger gaps? sure.

    Would I enjoy the consistency that a full OL set would bring to my setup? I bet I would.



    my consensus is a good swing will translate to any club. YMMV
    g400 max 9* | hzrdus black 75 6.5
    f8 15* | hzrdus black 75 6.5
    p790 4i | steelfiber 95x
    black utility onelength 22.5*, 26* | steelfiber 110x
    forged onelength 6i | steelfiber 110x
    p730 7i-pw | steelfiber 110x
    hi-toe 52*9, 56*8, 62*5 | steelfiber 110x
    columbus
    jumbomax tour medium grips
  • HertsjoatmonHertsjoatmon Advanced Members Posts: 165 ✭✭
    I with the gapping issues in the 4 and 5, could you bend one either a little strong or weak to get proper gapping from your 6 iron and then have room for another club elsewhere in your bag? extra wood / hybrid or wedge may be?
    [font=courier new,courier,monospace]14 - Mini Dr - Bertha Mini 1.5 - Motore 70 R @42.5" - D2.5
    19 - Fairway - Big Bertha - Kuru Kage Silver 70 R @ 40.5" - D2
    22 - Hybrid - Big Bertha - Kuru Kage Silver 80 R 39" D1.5
    25 - Hybrid - Adams Idea (14) - Ozik X-con 8h R 38.25" - D2
    28 - hybrid iron - Adams Idea (14) - Ping AWT 2.0 R - D2.5
    32 & 36 - hybrid iron - Adams Idea (14) - Ping AWT 2.0 R - D3
    40 & 45- cavity back - Adams Idea (14) - Ping AWT 2.0 R - D3.5
    50 - wedge - Cleveland RTX 2.0 CB - 6 bounce - D4
    55 - wedge - Cleveland RTX 2.0 CB - 11 bounce- D4
    60 - wedge - Ping Tour-W - 8 bounce - D5
    56 - wedge - Cleveland Smart Sole 3.0 - 8 bounce - D4
    Odyssey 2 Ball fang - e6 soft - Sun Mountain Combo Cart / Bag

    On the naughty step - Driver - Callaway GBB (animal style) - Speeder 665 R @ 43.5" - D3

    90mph SS - longest drive 2018 (measured with GameGolf) - 264 yards
    [/font]
  • HertsjoatmonHertsjoatmon Advanced Members Posts: 165 ✭✭
    A lot of talk on here about options in the irons (Single Length (SL) all the way through, Variable Length (VL) wedges, SL from 7up but VL below that), but not seen much about what people do above their longest iron.



    Do you use a VL hybrid or SL hybrid? at what iron do you switch it up at due to gapping and what is your swing speed / 150 yard club



    Do you use VL woods or SL Woods? If SL,what length and lofts?



    Does your driver length match your woods?
    [font=courier new,courier,monospace]14 - Mini Dr - Bertha Mini 1.5 - Motore 70 R @42.5" - D2.5
    19 - Fairway - Big Bertha - Kuru Kage Silver 70 R @ 40.5" - D2
    22 - Hybrid - Big Bertha - Kuru Kage Silver 80 R 39" D1.5
    25 - Hybrid - Adams Idea (14) - Ozik X-con 8h R 38.25" - D2
    28 - hybrid iron - Adams Idea (14) - Ping AWT 2.0 R - D2.5
    32 & 36 - hybrid iron - Adams Idea (14) - Ping AWT 2.0 R - D3
    40 & 45- cavity back - Adams Idea (14) - Ping AWT 2.0 R - D3.5
    50 - wedge - Cleveland RTX 2.0 CB - 6 bounce - D4
    55 - wedge - Cleveland RTX 2.0 CB - 11 bounce- D4
    60 - wedge - Ping Tour-W - 8 bounce - D5
    56 - wedge - Cleveland Smart Sole 3.0 - 8 bounce - D4
    Odyssey 2 Ball fang - e6 soft - Sun Mountain Combo Cart / Bag

    On the naughty step - Driver - Callaway GBB (animal style) - Speeder 665 R @ 43.5" - D3

    90mph SS - longest drive 2018 (measured with GameGolf) - 264 yards
    [/font]
  • extrastiffextrastiff Advanced Members Posts: 855 ✭✭
    edited March 14


    A lot of talk on here about options in the irons (Single Length (SL) all the way through, Variable Length (VL) wedges, SL from 7up but VL below that), but not seen much about what people do above their longest iron.



    Do you use a VL hybrid or SL hybrid? at what iron do you switch it up at due to gapping and what is your swing speed / 150 yard club



    Do you use VL woods or SL Woods? If SL,what length and lofts?



    Does your driver length match your woods?


    I switch between a VL 3 hybrid or a VL 4iron as my club above the SL 4iron. I get 10-20 yards more from my VL p790. 7-LW is VL. 150 club is usually 9 iron or PW



    VL woods. VL driver. Swing speed of 118+ with driver. I got my grandad SL hybrids (7 iron length) and with his swing speed I'm trying to convince him to add some length cause he struggles to elevate them
    g400 max 9* | hzrdus black 75 6.5
    f8 15* | hzrdus black 75 6.5
    p790 4i | steelfiber 95x
    black utility onelength 22.5*, 26* | steelfiber 110x
    forged onelength 6i | steelfiber 110x
    p730 7i-pw | steelfiber 110x
    hi-toe 52*9, 56*8, 62*5 | steelfiber 110x
    columbus
    jumbomax tour medium grips
  • HertsjoatmonHertsjoatmon Advanced Members Posts: 165 ✭✭
    edited March 14
    Just don't add too much length. 24/38 rule... Average golfers can't hit an iron longer than 38" with any consistency and or have the club head speed to make use of an loft lower than 24*.
    Post edited by Unknown User on
    [font=courier new,courier,monospace]14 - Mini Dr - Bertha Mini 1.5 - Motore 70 R @42.5" - D2.5
    19 - Fairway - Big Bertha - Kuru Kage Silver 70 R @ 40.5" - D2
    22 - Hybrid - Big Bertha - Kuru Kage Silver 80 R 39" D1.5
    25 - Hybrid - Adams Idea (14) - Ozik X-con 8h R 38.25" - D2
    28 - hybrid iron - Adams Idea (14) - Ping AWT 2.0 R - D2.5
    32 & 36 - hybrid iron - Adams Idea (14) - Ping AWT 2.0 R - D3
    40 & 45- cavity back - Adams Idea (14) - Ping AWT 2.0 R - D3.5
    50 - wedge - Cleveland RTX 2.0 CB - 6 bounce - D4
    55 - wedge - Cleveland RTX 2.0 CB - 11 bounce- D4
    60 - wedge - Ping Tour-W - 8 bounce - D5
    56 - wedge - Cleveland Smart Sole 3.0 - 8 bounce - D4
    Odyssey 2 Ball fang - e6 soft - Sun Mountain Combo Cart / Bag

    On the naughty step - Driver - Callaway GBB (animal style) - Speeder 665 R @ 43.5" - D3

    90mph SS - longest drive 2018 (measured with GameGolf) - 264 yards
    [/font]
  • longofftheteeslongoffthetees Advanced Members Posts: 965
    Update on the Cobra F9 SL irons



    Much easier to hit in 5&6 iron. Doesn’t have near the feel of the Edel SLS irons and while I much prefer the look of the Edel irons, the F9 SL irons are solid and easy to play all the way throughout the set.



    Going to keep hanging with the experiment. I think scoring will improve with the Cobras. My home course requires several long iron shots so I’m excited to see the playing difference between the two sets.

    Cobra F9 10.5* Atmos Blue TS 6S
    Cleveland Hi-Bore 12* 2W TA Steel "The Unicorn"
    Cobra F9 14.5* 3W Atmos Blue TS 7S
    Cobra F9 17* 2H Atmos Black TS 7S
    Cobra F9 OL 5-SW KBS Tour S
    TaylorMade Hi Toe 60* Aldila Lobster
    Scotty Cameron 5W Custom Weld-Neck
    Scotty Cameron MOTO 5W
    Odyssey PT82
    Slighter Custom Stubby
    TP5x
  • RohlioRohlio Advanced Members Posts: 2,290 ✭✭


    A lot of talk on here about options in the irons (Single Length (SL) all the way through, Variable Length (VL) wedges, SL from 7up but VL below that), but not seen much about what people do above their longest iron.



    Do you use a VL hybrid or SL hybrid? at what iron do you switch it up at due to gapping and what is your swing speed / 150 yard club



    Do you use VL woods or SL Woods? If SL,what length and lofts?



    Does your driver length match your woods?




    18* utility iron single length 37.5"

    15* 4wood 41.5"

    8.5* driver 43.5"



    150 yard club is an 8 iron.
    WITB:
    Driver: Ping G400 LST 8.5* Kuro Kage Silver TINI 70s
    FW: Ping G25 4 wood Kuro Kage Silver TINI 80s
    Utility: 20* King Forged Utility One Length C Taper Lite S
    Irons: King Forged One Length 4-PW C Taper Lite S
    Wedges: Cleveland 588 RTX 2.0 Black Satin 50, 54, 58
    Putter: Custom Directed Force Reno 2.0 48" 80* Lie Side Saddle
  • Pack7483Pack7483 Advanced Members Posts: 602 ✭✭
    The f9 single length 5iron is amazing. I didn't think the f9 would be a big upgrade over my f7s, and I was wrong. The only thing I am struggling with is the irons with the kbs 90 shafts. Weird that I love the 5i with the kbs 80, but seem to struggle with dispersion on all the irons with kbs90. The f9 wedges have the kbs120 and I have always loved and hit that shaft well. Thinking of reshafting the irons with kbs 90 to the tour 120s.
  • HertsjoatmonHertsjoatmon Advanced Members Posts: 165 ✭✭
    I've been offered a great deal on a second hand set of f8 irons 5-GW with an option of the 22* hybrid as well.



    My question is, is the 4 hybrid @ 22* much longer than the 5 iron @ 22.5* at the same shaft length (although 4 hybrid is graphite and iron steel)? with a 85mph driver swing speed I imagine my gapping will be an issue above the 6 iron. May be the 4 hybrid would be instead of the 5 iron for me rather than as well as... thoughts?



    I wont get to demo them prior to purchase
    [font=courier new,courier,monospace]14 - Mini Dr - Bertha Mini 1.5 - Motore 70 R @42.5" - D2.5
    19 - Fairway - Big Bertha - Kuru Kage Silver 70 R @ 40.5" - D2
    22 - Hybrid - Big Bertha - Kuru Kage Silver 80 R 39" D1.5
    25 - Hybrid - Adams Idea (14) - Ozik X-con 8h R 38.25" - D2
    28 - hybrid iron - Adams Idea (14) - Ping AWT 2.0 R - D2.5
    32 & 36 - hybrid iron - Adams Idea (14) - Ping AWT 2.0 R - D3
    40 & 45- cavity back - Adams Idea (14) - Ping AWT 2.0 R - D3.5
    50 - wedge - Cleveland RTX 2.0 CB - 6 bounce - D4
    55 - wedge - Cleveland RTX 2.0 CB - 11 bounce- D4
    60 - wedge - Ping Tour-W - 8 bounce - D5
    56 - wedge - Cleveland Smart Sole 3.0 - 8 bounce - D4
    Odyssey 2 Ball fang - e6 soft - Sun Mountain Combo Cart / Bag

    On the naughty step - Driver - Callaway GBB (animal style) - Speeder 665 R @ 43.5" - D3

    90mph SS - longest drive 2018 (measured with GameGolf) - 264 yards
    [/font]
  • Rory McilwoodsRory Mcilwoods Advanced Members Posts: 182 ✭✭
    edited March 15
    Loved the idea of a 7 iron length 4 iron. Hated a gap wedge at 7 iron length. Just felt wrong and had no feel at all.



    Honestly, if one fool with a name similar to being kicked in the balls didn't use them..we would be discussing them.



    Just a passing fad and will be relegated to the annals of golf history like balata
  • TarheelTH50TarheelTH50 Members Posts: 10 ✭✭


    I've been offered a great deal on a second hand set of f8 irons 5-GW with an option of the 22* hybrid as well.



    My question is, is the 4 hybrid @ 22* much longer than the 5 iron @ 22.5* at the same shaft length (although 4 hybrid is graphite and iron steel)? with a 85mph driver swing speed I imagine my gapping will be an issue above the 6 iron. May be the 4 hybrid would be instead of the 5 iron for me rather than as well as... thoughts?



    I wont get to demo them prior to purchase




    Hope this helps.



    I use the F7 irons 5-GW. However, after a few rounds I acquired the 22* F8 hybrid and dropped the F7 5 iron. Never looked back. The hybrid provided me with more acceptable height, but didnt cause me any gapping issues at all.
  • HertsjoatmonHertsjoatmon Advanced Members Posts: 165 ✭✭



    I've been offered a great deal on a second hand set of f8 irons 5-GW with an option of the 22* hybrid as well.



    My question is, is the 4 hybrid @ 22* much longer than the 5 iron @ 22.5* at the same shaft length (although 4 hybrid is graphite and iron steel)? with a 85mph driver swing speed I imagine my gapping will be an issue above the 6 iron. May be the 4 hybrid would be instead of the 5 iron for me rather than as well as... thoughts?



    I wont get to demo them prior to purchase




    Hope this helps.



    I use the F7 irons 5-GW. However, after a few rounds I acquired the 22* F8 hybrid and dropped the F7 5 iron. Never looked back. The hybrid provided me with more acceptable height, but didnt cause me any gapping issues at all.




    That does help. I'm anticipating that I will keep the 22 hybrid and drop the 5 iron and gap wedge out of the set.



    Top of the bag will be cobra f7 7-8, cally big bertha 5w and a big bertha mini 1.5 14* until I get confident enough to put the driver back in play.



    I don't think one length is perfect (I think an off the shelf 1/4" length set of irons would be a better suit for most from around 36" in the wedges to 38" in the long irons) , but as someone who only gets to play once or twice a month with a few range sessions in between, being able to reduce the variables for practice is a no brainer
    [font=courier new,courier,monospace]14 - Mini Dr - Bertha Mini 1.5 - Motore 70 R @42.5" - D2.5
    19 - Fairway - Big Bertha - Kuru Kage Silver 70 R @ 40.5" - D2
    22 - Hybrid - Big Bertha - Kuru Kage Silver 80 R 39" D1.5
    25 - Hybrid - Adams Idea (14) - Ozik X-con 8h R 38.25" - D2
    28 - hybrid iron - Adams Idea (14) - Ping AWT 2.0 R - D2.5
    32 & 36 - hybrid iron - Adams Idea (14) - Ping AWT 2.0 R - D3
    40 & 45- cavity back - Adams Idea (14) - Ping AWT 2.0 R - D3.5
    50 - wedge - Cleveland RTX 2.0 CB - 6 bounce - D4
    55 - wedge - Cleveland RTX 2.0 CB - 11 bounce- D4
    60 - wedge - Ping Tour-W - 8 bounce - D5
    56 - wedge - Cleveland Smart Sole 3.0 - 8 bounce - D4
    Odyssey 2 Ball fang - e6 soft - Sun Mountain Combo Cart / Bag

    On the naughty step - Driver - Callaway GBB (animal style) - Speeder 665 R @ 43.5" - D3

    90mph SS - longest drive 2018 (measured with GameGolf) - 264 yards
    [/font]
  • HertsjoatmonHertsjoatmon Advanced Members Posts: 165 ✭✭
    Got a demo 5 f7 one length to try out at the range... I really don't have the club speed to make use of it. Think I'm decided on sw-6i one length. 22* hybrid one length.
    [font=courier new,courier,monospace]14 - Mini Dr - Bertha Mini 1.5 - Motore 70 R @42.5" - D2.5
    19 - Fairway - Big Bertha - Kuru Kage Silver 70 R @ 40.5" - D2
    22 - Hybrid - Big Bertha - Kuru Kage Silver 80 R 39" D1.5
    25 - Hybrid - Adams Idea (14) - Ozik X-con 8h R 38.25" - D2
    28 - hybrid iron - Adams Idea (14) - Ping AWT 2.0 R - D2.5
    32 & 36 - hybrid iron - Adams Idea (14) - Ping AWT 2.0 R - D3
    40 & 45- cavity back - Adams Idea (14) - Ping AWT 2.0 R - D3.5
    50 - wedge - Cleveland RTX 2.0 CB - 6 bounce - D4
    55 - wedge - Cleveland RTX 2.0 CB - 11 bounce- D4
    60 - wedge - Ping Tour-W - 8 bounce - D5
    56 - wedge - Cleveland Smart Sole 3.0 - 8 bounce - D4
    Odyssey 2 Ball fang - e6 soft - Sun Mountain Combo Cart / Bag

    On the naughty step - Driver - Callaway GBB (animal style) - Speeder 665 R @ 43.5" - D3

    90mph SS - longest drive 2018 (measured with GameGolf) - 264 yards
    [/font]
  • pbr2121pbr2121 Advanced Members Posts: 439
    I hit my f9 hybrid yesterday and it's higher-launching than the f8. At 19 degrees it's a legit 200 yard club that can hold a green. I thought about switching to VL this year but after one range session I'm reminded about the ease of OL
    PING Rapture V2 with BB
    PING Crossover - 3
    PING Eye 2 + Becu 3-W with DG AMT S300
    PING Eye 2 XG Sand and Lob wedges
    PING Chipo!
    PING Pal - Karsten
  • Pack7483Pack7483 Advanced Members Posts: 602 ✭✭


    Got a demo 5 f7 one length to try out at the range... I really don't have the club speed to make use of it. Think I'm decided on sw-6i one length. 22* hybrid one length.




    The f9 5i with the stock kbs 80 is much easier to launch and play than the stock f7 5i. You could always get it vs a one length hybrid and still play 6-sw f7.
  • HertsjoatmonHertsjoatmon Advanced Members Posts: 165 ✭✭
    Pack7483 wrote:



    Got a demo 5 f7 one length to try out at the range... I really don't have the club speed to make use of it. Think I'm decided on sw-6i one length. 22* hybrid one length.




    The f9 5i with the stock kbs 80 is much easier to launch and play than the stock f7 5i. You could always get it vs a one length hybrid and still play 6-sw f7.




    The set i will have next week is 22* f8 hybrid and then 5-GW F8 all one length. I think my swing speed will have me dropping the 5 iron and i think ill end up still using my regular gap wedge, but we shall see. I found standing over a 37.25 9 irons weird enough!
    [font=courier new,courier,monospace]14 - Mini Dr - Bertha Mini 1.5 - Motore 70 R @42.5" - D2.5
    19 - Fairway - Big Bertha - Kuru Kage Silver 70 R @ 40.5" - D2
    22 - Hybrid - Big Bertha - Kuru Kage Silver 80 R 39" D1.5
    25 - Hybrid - Adams Idea (14) - Ozik X-con 8h R 38.25" - D2
    28 - hybrid iron - Adams Idea (14) - Ping AWT 2.0 R - D2.5
    32 & 36 - hybrid iron - Adams Idea (14) - Ping AWT 2.0 R - D3
    40 & 45- cavity back - Adams Idea (14) - Ping AWT 2.0 R - D3.5
    50 - wedge - Cleveland RTX 2.0 CB - 6 bounce - D4
    55 - wedge - Cleveland RTX 2.0 CB - 11 bounce- D4
    60 - wedge - Ping Tour-W - 8 bounce - D5
    56 - wedge - Cleveland Smart Sole 3.0 - 8 bounce - D4
    Odyssey 2 Ball fang - e6 soft - Sun Mountain Combo Cart / Bag

    On the naughty step - Driver - Callaway GBB (animal style) - Speeder 665 R @ 43.5" - D3

    90mph SS - longest drive 2018 (measured with GameGolf) - 264 yards
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  • HertsjoatmonHertsjoatmon Advanced Members Posts: 165 ✭✭
    Just thought. I have a xp85 7 iron shaft in my loft that I pulled from an adams idea iron. I could use that on an iron to help with gapping
    [font=courier new,courier,monospace]14 - Mini Dr - Bertha Mini 1.5 - Motore 70 R @42.5" - D2.5
    19 - Fairway - Big Bertha - Kuru Kage Silver 70 R @ 40.5" - D2
    22 - Hybrid - Big Bertha - Kuru Kage Silver 80 R 39" D1.5
    25 - Hybrid - Adams Idea (14) - Ozik X-con 8h R 38.25" - D2
    28 - hybrid iron - Adams Idea (14) - Ping AWT 2.0 R - D2.5
    32 & 36 - hybrid iron - Adams Idea (14) - Ping AWT 2.0 R - D3
    40 & 45- cavity back - Adams Idea (14) - Ping AWT 2.0 R - D3.5
    50 - wedge - Cleveland RTX 2.0 CB - 6 bounce - D4
    55 - wedge - Cleveland RTX 2.0 CB - 11 bounce- D4
    60 - wedge - Ping Tour-W - 8 bounce - D5
    56 - wedge - Cleveland Smart Sole 3.0 - 8 bounce - D4
    Odyssey 2 Ball fang - e6 soft - Sun Mountain Combo Cart / Bag

    On the naughty step - Driver - Callaway GBB (animal style) - Speeder 665 R @ 43.5" - D3

    90mph SS - longest drive 2018 (measured with GameGolf) - 264 yards
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  • Rich DouglasRich Douglas Advanced Members Posts: 315 ✭✭


    Loved the idea of a 7 iron length 4 iron. Hated a gap wedge at 7 iron length. Just felt wrong and had no feel at all.



    Honestly, if one fool with a name similar to being kicked in the balls didn't use them..we would be discussing them.



    Just a passing fad and will be relegated to the annals of golf history like balata




    Balata was not a fad; it reigned king for the entire 20th centruy. It wasn't shunted aside; better technologies (urethane, combined with multi-layered balls) were developed. I would be curious what better technologies you're anticipating that will set aside single-length clubs.



    I adopted single-length irons almost a year before BDC won anything on Tour. I hadn't even heard of the guy yet.
    Driver: Titleist 917 D3 (Aldila Rogue MAX 65)
    2W: TM Mini Driver
    3I: Ping Driving Iron
    Irons: Wishon Sterling Single Length 4I-SW
    Wedge: Callaway Mack Daddy LW (64 degrees)
    Putter: Happy by Brainstorm Golf (Mallet)
    Ball: Snell MTB Red
  • LobberLobber Advanced Members Posts: 2,368 ✭✭


    Just got a set of Forged Tec Black One at 38 inches with stock DG AMt White Stiff. One round and not too terrible to get used to EXCEPT I am hitting line drives with the 5 and 6 and not elevating like my normal variable length irons. Is this normal?
  • RohlioRohlio Advanced Members Posts: 2,290 ✭✭
    Lobber wrote:




    Just got a set of Forged Tec Black One at 38 inches with stock DG AMt White Stiff. One round and not too terrible to get used to EXCEPT I am hitting line drives with the 5 and 6 and not elevating like my normal variable length irons. Is this normal?




    At first while you are still over thinking it, yes.
    WITB:
    Driver: Ping G400 LST 8.5* Kuro Kage Silver TINI 70s
    FW: Ping G25 4 wood Kuro Kage Silver TINI 80s
    Utility: 20* King Forged Utility One Length C Taper Lite S
    Irons: King Forged One Length 4-PW C Taper Lite S
    Wedges: Cleveland 588 RTX 2.0 Black Satin 50, 54, 58
    Putter: Custom Directed Force Reno 2.0 48" 80* Lie Side Saddle
  • Sparky14Sparky14 Advanced Members Posts: 334 ✭✭
    Lobber wrote:


    Just got a set of Forged Tec Black One at 38 inches with stock DG AMt White Stiff. One round and not too terrible to get used to EXCEPT I am hitting line drives with the 5 and 6 and not elevating like my normal variable length irons. Is this normal?


    Absolutely normal. Shorter shafts, so the loft has to be lower for the same distance.
  • P.E.P.E. Members Posts: 68 ✭✭
    Sparky14 wrote:

    Lobber wrote:


    Just got a set of Forged Tec Black One at 38 inches with stock DG AMt White Stiff. One round and not too terrible to get used to EXCEPT I am hitting line drives with the 5 and 6 and not elevating like my normal variable length irons. Is this normal?


    Absolutely normal. Shorter shafts, so the loft has to be lower for the same distance.




    I am not an expert in SL but I do know that the stock Sterling Irons are only 1/2 degree stronger than stock Ping G400 Irons for the 5/6.



    Perhaps the OP is having some difficulty in ball position for his 5/6 iron shots which would be normal.
  • LobberLobber Advanced Members Posts: 2,368 ✭✭
    OK so where would I position the 4/5 to get a bit more elevation? Further up in my stance. Appreciate the input and suggestions. Thanks everyone
  • P.E.P.E. Members Posts: 68 ✭✭
    Lobber wrote:


    OK so where would I position the 4/5 to get a bit more elevation? Further up in my stance. Appreciate the input and suggestions. Thanks everyone




    Without knowing all your personal swing characteristics the only suggestion I could make is put the ball in the same position that works for all your other SL irons.



    My brief experience with Cobra SLI was that I achieved the best results with my 7 iron setup for the GW,7, and 5 irons with the same swing.



    if I tried to significantly increase my swing speed for the 5 iron to help the distance I had horrible results.
  • LobberLobber Advanced Members Posts: 2,368 ✭✭
    P.E. wrote:

    Lobber wrote:


    OK so where would I position the 4/5 to get a bit more elevation? Further up in my stance. Appreciate the input and suggestions. Thanks everyone




    Without knowing all your personal swing characteristics the only suggestion I could make is put the ball in the same position that works for all your other SL irons.



    My brief experience with Cobra SLI was that I achieved the best results with my 7 iron setup for the GW,7, and 5 irons with the same swing.



    if I tried to significantly increase my swing speed for the 5 iron to help the distance I had horrible results.




    I hear you. I really went after a couple of shots with the 4 and 5 and hooked them badly
  • AhotrainAhotrain Members Posts: 54 ✭✭
    Just started the single length journey. 2 rounds in I'm enjoying the irons. Low ball flight with 4 and 5 as well but gw has given me the most trouble so far
  • HertsjoatmonHertsjoatmon Advanced Members Posts: 165 ✭✭
    Initial test with a 9i and 5i only 20 range balls as I was short of time, no warm up and about 7*c temperature.



    9i. club speed 67. ball speed 80. launch 24.7*. spin 6159. total yards 104

    5i. club speed 73. ball speed 92. launch 17.6*. spin 3599. total yards 140.



    not my proudest of numbers, but I really just wanted to get a feel for hitting a long short iron and a short long iron.

    Numbers taken with a es14.



    With more time, a warm up and more practice with the set, ill post some numbers up again...
    [font=courier new,courier,monospace]14 - Mini Dr - Bertha Mini 1.5 - Motore 70 R @42.5" - D2.5
    19 - Fairway - Big Bertha - Kuru Kage Silver 70 R @ 40.5" - D2
    22 - Hybrid - Big Bertha - Kuru Kage Silver 80 R 39" D1.5
    25 - Hybrid - Adams Idea (14) - Ozik X-con 8h R 38.25" - D2
    28 - hybrid iron - Adams Idea (14) - Ping AWT 2.0 R - D2.5
    32 & 36 - hybrid iron - Adams Idea (14) - Ping AWT 2.0 R - D3
    40 & 45- cavity back - Adams Idea (14) - Ping AWT 2.0 R - D3.5
    50 - wedge - Cleveland RTX 2.0 CB - 6 bounce - D4
    55 - wedge - Cleveland RTX 2.0 CB - 11 bounce- D4
    60 - wedge - Ping Tour-W - 8 bounce - D5
    56 - wedge - Cleveland Smart Sole 3.0 - 8 bounce - D4
    Odyssey 2 Ball fang - e6 soft - Sun Mountain Combo Cart / Bag

    On the naughty step - Driver - Callaway GBB (animal style) - Speeder 665 R @ 43.5" - D3

    90mph SS - longest drive 2018 (measured with GameGolf) - 264 yards
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  • g-offg-off Advanced Members Posts: 284 ✭✭
    played a couple rounds last week in mb, actually tried it with only 5 irons and may be seriously going minimalist single length, the sand wedge actually works a bit better than I expected, absolutely love it for full shots also, now if I can just find a putter I can get along with.....
    epic flash driver

    steelhead xr heavenwood

    steelhead xr 9 wood

    hogan ft worth hi 22

    edel sls 01 5-s

    hogan tk 58

    putter rotates daily

    always hoing the next best thing
  • Sparky14Sparky14 Advanced Members Posts: 334 ✭✭
    Got my first two range sessions in with my new F7 OL.  First one was off mats - 8i and GW no problem. GW was flying high as expected. 5i was much higher than expected and had some wicked fade on it. Second day the grass was open. Real happy with the turf interaction. Again, 8i and GW were easy to hit. 5i still had more fade than I like, but it was super consistent, hitting the range green 3/4 of the time.
    Nothing earth shattering in the range results. 

    Stopped off at a golf store on the way back to the office, and darned if there wasn't a nice used F7 OL SW in the bucket for $29.99. MINE!

    36 holes planned for Monday - we'll see how they do. Will also be testing out an new F9 driver against my F8 that day.
  • rjr25rjr25 Advanced Members Posts: 242 ✭✭
    I've been offered a great deal on a second hand set of f8 irons 5-GW with an option of the 22* hybrid as well.



    My question is, is the 4 hybrid @ 22* much longer than the 5 iron @ 22.5* at the same shaft length (although 4 hybrid is graphite and iron steel)? with a 85mph driver swing speed I imagine my gapping will be an issue above the 6 iron. May be the 4 hybrid would be instead of the 5 iron for me rather than as well as... thoughts?



    I wont get to demo them prior to purchase
    last year was my first year playing OL, used the F7 5-GW. I added the 22 hybrid late in the year and have really only hit in in the sims. I was thinking even though the lofts were close the graphite shaft and the hybrid head might over a bigger gap. Unfortunately, while I do hit it longer, its not a whole lot longer to warrant taking up a space in the bag. I did just grab a Cobra OL Utility (adjustable loft, graphite shaft) so hoping that might be a better option for that spot since I can turn it down to 21 or so. I think with your speed you could probably ditch the 5 iron and just go hybrid, or vice versa.
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    [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Cobra F8 OL Hybrid 22 [/font]
    [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Cobra F7 OL 5-GW (On Trial)[/font]
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    [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Cleveland RTX-2 CB Std Bounce 52/56/60[/font]
    [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]TaylorMade TP Black Copper Ardmore 3 - 34[/font]
  • ChazbChazb Advanced Members Posts: 900 ✭✭
    Would the f9 ol be a improvement over the F8s ol and what about graphite shafts.would they be worth the upcharge?
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