Ric Shiels- Lumine pro am score

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  • peterman22peterman22 Members Posts: 43
    rockinar wrote:


    Dude is a driving range pro. Probably a 7 handicap at best.




    In a vlog from last year sometime (I can't remember which), he said he was "hanging on" to scratch. Unverified, but that's what he said.
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  • LondonerLondoner Posts: 1,166 ✭✭
    Barfolomew wrote:


    So he shot in the 80s for 3 days....happens lol!



    So do you 10 caps who are baggin on him wiliing to put your money up against him??...no...thought so cause don't mean a thing!!


    I cant ever remember being 17 over, net. Let alone 2 days on the trot.
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  • Z1ggy16Z1ggy16 Members Posts: 7,170 ✭✭
    edited Feb 13, 2018 #124
    I notice a lot of his recent vlogs aren't really posting scores either. Hey, I'm not a RS lover or hater, but he's allll about entertaining now it seems. I hope this is because Fried Eggs guy did the video and this isn't the norm. I like golfing vlogs where I see real guys playing courses I'll probably never get to enjoy. This definitely wasn't it.





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  • JagpilotohioJagpilotohio 45+ inch drivers are evil. Columbus, OHMembers Posts: 7,143 ✭✭
    88,88,79 is pretty darn wretched but I am honestly more amazed by how many people on this site actually care so much.



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  • AnserAnser ClubWRX Posts: 2,207 ✭✭


    I think he's much better than the scores he shot in this event. Most here have no idea how much time and work goes into keeping a social media profile like his. People who don't understand it criticize it as "fake" business but I assure you that it's real work. My daughter does the same for her business on several platforms and the poor kid works 14 hours a day, seven days a week at it....with six employees/interns also working at it. She, like Shiels, has a very successful business but her real social/family life does suffer as a result. It's what it takes these days to run a successful internet based business. That doesn't even consider the actual logistics of running the business and all that entails. Who has time to play serious golf? I give Shiels props for putting himself out there for criticism. He could just stay away from competition and let everyone just assume that he's a great player but he doesn't. I admire the **** out of him for creating international recognition and a big business out of absolute thin air....how can you criticize that? It's remarkable.




    Honest question



    Why? Why do you think he's better. Because he has a good swing on youtube videos? What has he done to prove golf skill? Business skill, sure, but actual golf ability?
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  • North ButteNorth Butte Members Posts: 9,762 ✭✭
    Anser wrote:



    I think he's much better than the scores he shot in this event. Most here have no idea how much time and work goes into keeping a social media profile like his. People who don't understand it criticize it as "fake" business but I assure you that it's real work. My daughter does the same for her business on several platforms and the poor kid works 14 hours a day, seven days a week at it....with six employees/interns also working at it. She, like Shiels, has a very successful business but her real social/family life does suffer as a result. It's what it takes these days to run a successful internet based business. That doesn't even consider the actual logistics of running the business and all that entails. Who has time to play serious golf? I give Shiels props for putting himself out there for criticism. He could just stay away from competition and let everyone just assume that he's a great player but he doesn't. I admire the **** out of him for creating international recognition and a big business out of absolute thin air....how can you criticize that? It's remarkable.




    Honest question



    Why? Why do you think he's better. Because he has a good swing on youtube videos? What has he done to prove golf skill? Business skill, sure, but actual golf ability?




    That’s what I keep asking.
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  • iteachgolfiteachgolf Members Posts: 16,590 ✭✭

    Anser wrote:



    I think he's much better than the scores he shot in this event. Most here have no idea how much time and work goes into keeping a social media profile like his. People who don't understand it criticize it as "fake" business but I assure you that it's real work. My daughter does the same for her business on several platforms and the poor kid works 14 hours a day, seven days a week at it....with six employees/interns also working at it. She, like Shiels, has a very successful business but her real social/family life does suffer as a result. It's what it takes these days to run a successful internet based business. That doesn't even consider the actual logistics of running the business and all that entails. Who has time to play serious golf? I give Shiels props for putting himself out there for criticism. He could just stay away from competition and let everyone just assume that he's a great player but he doesn't. I admire the **** out of him for creating international recognition and a big business out of absolute thin air....how can you criticize that? It's remarkable.




    Honest question



    Why? Why do you think he's better. Because he has a good swing on youtube videos? What has he done to prove golf skill? Business skill, sure, but actual golf ability?




    That’s what I keep asking.




    You both must have missed the post where he averaged just over 72 for 12 events a few years ago. He’s certainly better than the score he posted in this event
  • LondonerLondoner Posts: 1,166 ✭✭
    iteachgolf wrote:


    Anser wrote:



    I think he's much better than the scores he shot in this event. Most here have no idea how much time and work goes into keeping a social media profile like his. People who don't understand it criticize it as "fake" business but I assure you that it's real work. My daughter does the same for her business on several platforms and the poor kid works 14 hours a day, seven days a week at it....with six employees/interns also working at it. She, like Shiels, has a very successful business but her real social/family life does suffer as a result. It's what it takes these days to run a successful internet based business. That doesn't even consider the actual logistics of running the business and all that entails. Who has time to play serious golf? I give Shiels props for putting himself out there for criticism. He could just stay away from competition and let everyone just assume that he's a great player but he doesn't. I admire the **** out of him for creating international recognition and a big business out of absolute thin air....how can you criticize that? It's remarkable.




    Honest question



    Why? Why do you think he's better. Because he has a good swing on youtube videos? What has he done to prove golf skill? Business skill, sure, but actual golf ability?




    That’s what I keep asking.




    You both must have missed the post where he averaged just over 72 for 12 events a few years ago. He’s certainly better than the score he posted in this event


    Is he? Because he was a few years ago?
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  • North ButteNorth Butte Members Posts: 9,762 ✭✭
    I mean what is it that’s in any way impressive about the swing and the game he shows in his videos. Or do people watch the videos because he supposedly used to be a pretty solid player? I can only go by what I’ve seen.
    Everything has its drawbacks, as the man said when his mother-in-law died, and they came down upon him for the funeral expenses.
  • tyorke1tyorke1 Members Posts: 2,166 ✭✭
    His swing creates speed easy to see that, it is a good golf swing, who cares what he shoot's I was liking the fact he was trying to get in the open. I like his reviews and his matches with Peter. It's just entertainment nothing more or nothing less.
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  • iteachgolfiteachgolf Members Posts: 16,590 ✭✭
    Londoner wrote:

    iteachgolf wrote:


    Anser wrote:



    I think he's much better than the scores he shot in this event. Most here have no idea how much time and work goes into keeping a social media profile like his. People who don't understand it criticize it as "fake" business but I assure you that it's real work. My daughter does the same for her business on several platforms and the poor kid works 14 hours a day, seven days a week at it....with six employees/interns also working at it. She, like Shiels, has a very successful business but her real social/family life does suffer as a result. It's what it takes these days to run a successful internet based business. That doesn't even consider the actual logistics of running the business and all that entails. Who has time to play serious golf? I give Shiels props for putting himself out there for criticism. He could just stay away from competition and let everyone just assume that he's a great player but he doesn't. I admire the **** out of him for creating international recognition and a big business out of absolute thin air....how can you criticize that? It's remarkable.




    Honest question



    Why? Why do you think he's better. Because he has a good swing on youtube videos? What has he done to prove golf skill? Business skill, sure, but actual golf ability?




    That’s what I keep asking.




    You both must have missed the post where he averaged just over 72 for 12 events a few years ago. He’s certainly better than the score he posted in this event


    Is he? Because he was a few years ago?


    He said, what has he done to prove any golfing ability or skill? Averaging 72.4 for the year in 2016 absolutely proves he has skill and golfing ability. How good do you expect him to be? I’ve watched great players put up huge scores in events and miss cuts by miles. Only to win relatively shortly after.
  • What a bunch of BS. Pathetic arm chair quarterbacks on this thread. No one should be criticizing anybody about the humble nature of golf, especially tournament golf. I think anyone who is kicking Rick Shields about his performance, put up or shut up. Put up some significant money and challenge him. I know he would enjoy taking your money. Then you can post that on here.
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  • DoglegRightDoglegRight Members Posts: 1,126
    I check out his YouTube channel regularly and don't care if he shot under par or well over par in a tournament. His stuff is entertaining.
  • LondonerLondoner Posts: 1,166 ✭✭
    Londoner wrote:

    iteachgolf wrote:


    Anser wrote:









    Honest question



    Why? Why do you think he's better. Because he has a good swing on youtube videos? What has he done to prove golf skill? Business skill, sure, but actual golf ability?




    That’s what I keep asking.




    You both must have missed the post where he averaged just over 72 for 12 events a few years ago. He’s certainly better than the score he posted in this event


    Is he? Because he was a few years ago?


    He said, what has he done to prove any golfing ability or skill? Averaging 72.4 for the year in 2016 absolutely proves he has skill and golfing ability. How good do you expect him to be? I’ve watched great players put up huge scores in events and miss cuts by miles. Only to win relatively shortly after.


    The reason i started this thread was because in my experience the lower the handicap the more consistent the golfer. I dont know any of my friends or single figure players in my club who have hit 17 over, net, 2 days in succession. Ever.
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  • LondonerLondoner Posts: 1,166 ✭✭


    What a bunch of BS. Pathetic arm chair quarterbacks on this thread. No one should be criticizing anybody about the humble nature of golf, especially tournament golf. I think anyone who is kicking Rick Shields about his performance, put up or shut up. Put up some significant money and challenge him. I know he would enjoy taking your money. Then you can post that on here.


    I dont know what youve been reading but it dosent sound like this thread.
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  • Jordan SpeethJordan Speeth ClubWRX Posts: 1,084 ClubWRX
    I'm still convinced that he'd normally shoot in the mid to high 70's on most courses. He's far from a terrible player. At least he was man enough not to throw up a WD for some phony ailment. He took it like a man. It'd be hard on the ego for at least 267,511 people to know that you shot an 88. That's how many followers he's got on YouTube alone, with another 42,471 on Facebook, and 72,000 on Instagram. I'm not sure that too many of us would like advertising to a half million "friends" that we shot an 88 and came DFL. Again, props to Shiels.
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    edited Feb 13, 2018 #139
    iteachgolf wrote:


    Anser wrote:



    I think he's much better than the scores he shot in this event. Most here have no idea how much time and work goes into keeping a social media profile like his. People who don't understand it criticize it as "fake" business but I assure you that it's real work. My daughter does the same for her business on several platforms and the poor kid works 14 hours a day, seven days a week at it....with six employees/interns also working at it. She, like Shiels, has a very successful business but her real social/family life does suffer as a result. It's what it takes these days to run a successful internet based business. That doesn't even consider the actual logistics of running the business and all that entails. Who has time to play serious golf? I give Shiels props for putting himself out there for criticism. He could just stay away from competition and let everyone just assume that he's a great player but he doesn't. I admire the **** out of him for creating international recognition and a big business out of absolute thin air....how can you criticize that? It's remarkable.




    Honest question



    Why? Why do you think he's better. Because he has a good swing on youtube videos? What has he done to prove golf skill? Business skill, sure, but actual golf ability?




    That’s what I keep asking.




    You both must have missed the post where he averaged just over 72 for 12 events a few years ago. He’s certainly better than the score he posted in this event




    Exactly. If he's man enough to put up an 88 in front of a half million followers, I believe every other score he's posted, including his competitive 72 stroke average for the year. Again, I have a pretty good idea of how much time and effort goes into what he's presenting every day. Add that to a wife and kids....that doesn't leave too much time to practice, believe me. If David Duval can throw up an 81, which is a stroke a hole higher than his best score at Pebble, Shiels' 88 sure doesn't make me doubt that he can play well...at times.
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  • AnserAnser ClubWRX Posts: 2,207 ✭✭
    As someone averaging that scoring range, it'd put him #2 on a lot of High School teams.



    But those kids don't have money generating youtube channels so he's lucky to live in a world where people will pay money to watch others play video games or do golf club tests image/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />
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    I wonder what his playing partners were thinking....

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  • North ButteNorth Butte Members Posts: 9,762 ✭✭
    edited Feb 13, 2018 #142
    Guess that makes two huge subcultures I’d have never been aware of if not for GolfWRX. One is Costco members and the other is people who get their entertainment from YouTube. Both as hard for me to comprehend as Revolutionary War reenactors or fans of Benny Hill.



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    He was obviously testing equipment so wanted as many shots with them as possible to verify their on course performance.

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  • Bingo1976Bingo1976 Posts: 2,493 ClubWRX
    tyorke1 wrote:


    His swing creates speed easy to see that, it is a good golf swing, who cares what he shoot's I was liking the fact he was trying to get in the open. I like his reviews and his matches with Peter. It's just entertainment nothing more or nothing less.




    Isn't the whole point of golf to shoot low scores? Especially if you are trying to qualify for a strokeplay tournament?



    You can see from his videos that he can hit the ball all over the park, so he's never going to score well consistently. Cross field, whilst not a bomber, at least has a consistent swing and a self confessed abysmal short game.




    Guess that makes two huge subcultures I'd have never been aware of if not for GolfWRX. One is Costco members and the other is people who get their entertainment from YouTube. Both as hard for me to comprehend as Revolutionary War reenactors or fans of Benny Hill.



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    O/T but I think you'll find YouTube becoming a digital disruptor to the existing broadcast channels along with Netflix and Amazon. They've already launched live sports streaming in the US.
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  • sirparalotsirparalot Members Posts: 706 ✭✭
    I'm in the camp of I really couldn't care less what he shoots and it does not change my thoughts on the relevance of his reviews. Honestly the only persons review that is relevant when it comes to equipment for me is ME!!! All these online reviewers are windbags who figured out how to get paid...thats their most impressive accomplishment and good on them for making it work. So many people however do take these guys opinions as gospel and make poor buying decisions every year leading to no improvement in their game and a readiness to continue to open their wallets to buy something else after the next on-line review(manufacturers dream). If I was a manufacturer I would be paying the top review guys big $$ (under the table of course:) ) for favorable reviews. Today these reviewers sell more clubs than any PGA pro on the payroll.
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    I wonder what his playing partners were thinking....

    "This guys sponsored by Nike?!?!"




    His clothes were under par.
  • jimsmithleedsjimsmithleeds Posts: 81 ✭✭
    Embarassing scores for sure but look at what the guys missing the cut on the Europro tour in the UK shoot, mid 80's and above in some cases, and these guys are paying £250 an event to enter so must be practicing and taking it seriously so it happens



    That said, I'm off 7 and two 88's in a row would upset me a lot, but it could happen LOL
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  • jacobEDGE wrote:




    Also, when looking up "Shiels" on GHIN's website, nothing comes up. So maybe he actually doesn't hold a handicap for some odd reason?




    You do realize that he is english and most certainly has never even considered getting a USGA handicap. And the odd reason you mention is simple: he‘s a pro. Pros do not have handicaps under EGA regulations.
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    Rick 100% has a vanity cap. He plays terribly in a lot of his vlogs. He said he had a great back 9 at sawgrass and had 4 birdies, but in his video he didn' make a single putt. Says he got a par on 17 but his first putt might have gone in the water. He also got an 8 on 18.




    I don't even know who the guy is but I can't stop re-reading and laughing at this sentence, "says he got a par on 17 but his first putt might have gone in the water"...thank you for this




    And like I already mentioned above, if you were to actually watch the video and listen, he immediately follows that by saying, " If you believe that, you'll believe anything, ha ha ha "



    Actually see him as quite a humble guy, and yes I'm a daily viewer of his YT channel along with Finch, great course vlogs with awesome banter, and some impressive shots made while being filmed. Of course you take any thing you read or hear with an objective viewpoint, I don't see his review as the end all, but its quite entertaining and he doesn't claim any bias as far as I'm concerned.
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  • herbygolf21herbygolf21 Members Posts: 1,337 ✭✭
    Hawkeye77 wrote:


    jacobEDGE wrote:


    Also, he's definitely not a "hack". I think he's just not been focusing on tournament golf as of late. Here are his stats from 2016.



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    Making 11 cuts from 12 events. Averaging 72.4 in tournament conditions. Yeah, I doubt many people on here can do the same.




    Um, those appear to be one day events. 12 events, 12 rounds.



    Not too many 1 day events have cuts. I've yet to play in one. Maybe that's something they do over on that side of the pond.




    They also appear to be actual scores.



    And yes, Monday events. Over on this side of the pond PGA sections have Monday events, at least where we live, all throughout the season - that's when folks have some time to actually play.




    We have Monday events over here as well. My point was that there are no cuts in one day events. It was pointed out that he made 11 out of 12 cuts. I was questioning that statistic.
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    Driver: PING G400 LST 8.5* at 7.9* w/ Project X HZRDUS Yellow 75X
    3 Wood: Cobra F8+ 3 w/ Fujikura Motore Speeder Tour Spec 7.2X)
    5 Wood: VACANT
    Driving Iron: TM Tour Preferred 18* UDI with KBS Prototype 105X
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    Putter: Directed Force Reno at 34 inches and 66* lie angle (Stability Tour Only blacked out putter shaft)

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