Nick Faldo's Equipment

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  • The GachetThe Gachet Members Posts: 3,451 ✭✭
    edited Dec 19, 2009 #182
    mat562 wrote on Dec 20 2009, 01:27 AM:
    Speaking of Adams, I remember seeing him at an Open Championship one year when he was sporting a big Adams bag with what looked like his Masters-winning Mizuno irons from a couple of years earlier in it. The lone Adams club was the driver, one of those neutral-faced things, which he was hitting like a dog. It may have been a heat of the moment thing, but he came out with some most uncomplementary words about the quality of Adams clubs as he thumped it into the bag after another wide one. Not long afterwards, they parted company.


    Not a great copy and my name isn't John but this was an Adams promotional photocard for Faldo and it has blatantly got a full set of Mizuno TP-19 irons sticking out of the bag as you witnessed at The Open. Absolutely ridiculous !!!



    Mind you they did try and make some effort in disguising them by plastering lead tape over the Tour Proven stamping..................had us all well fooled considering Adams didn't even produce a set of blades !?! image/rolleyes.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':rolleyes:' />



    FaldoAdamsBag.jpg
  • mat562mat562 My ex had an irrational phobia of salad cream. Honestly. Members Posts: 10,952 ✭✭
    That looks about right. To be fair, the much heralded Faldo-designed Adams irons never materialised and, at that time, Adams simply didn't have any irons for him to play. From memory they signed up Anthony Wall at about the same time and he was bagging a set of Zing 2s and a trio of Cleveland wedges for the time he was with them.



    I don't remember Big Nick even playing the Faldo-monickered Adams wedges for more than five minutes either. As with his Wilson days, he was never a great advert for his sponsor's tackle unless you were talking about Mizuno.
  • leadlead Members Posts: 168
    The Gachet wrote on Dec 19 2009, 07:45 PM:
    FaldoPGA.jpg




    That looks like a Ping bag without the logotype.



    /lead
  • fore_lifefore_life Swung too hard, hit it too pure. Members Posts: 10,372 ✭✭
    Im sitting here at work reading his "swing For Life" book, waiting to go play in the morning. When I get a littel quick, I always think of Els, freddy, and Faldo for tempo inspiration. Wish he was still out there playing. Any thruth to the rumor that he's replacing Daniel Craig as the new 007?
    Ping G400 LST Ust Attas Earth 9f5
    M4 15* with bimatrix rocket X
    Titleist 21* H2 evenflow blue 6.5
    718 tmb 4 iron
    718 cb 5-pw amt x100 tour
    Vokeys
    Cleveland TA milled 1i


    Various other putters currently in the closet,
    thinking about what they've done wrong,
    and how they've hurt me so.
  • The GachetThe Gachet Members Posts: 3,451 ✭✭
    The Gachet wrote on Dec 20 2009, 01:16 AM:
    That photo was taken at the 2001 Volvo PGA Championship at Wentworth when he was out of contract and I think still going through that complicated situation with Adams. Notice the blank bag, glove and headcovers with the Mizuno Staff towel and TP-19's half covered in lead !



    Under those headcovers was a Titleist 975 driver and 975F 3-wood.



    His putter was a Scotty Cameron Del Mar 3.5 Tour in black.


    NickFaldoScottyCameronDelMar35Tour.jpg



    NickFaldoScottyCameronDelMar35Tour1.jpg



    NickFaldoScottyCameronDelMar35Tour2.jpg
  • The GachetThe Gachet Members Posts: 3,451 ✭✭
    Two of the grips Faldo has used in his career. On the left the Golf Pride Pro Only Cord used in the late eighties and early nineties. On the right the Lamkin Crossline Cord used throughout the last decade originally fitted the right way up but reversed over the latter years.



    FaldoGrips.jpg
  • The GachetThe Gachet Members Posts: 3,451 ✭✭
    edited Aug 30, 2010 #188
    The Gachet wrote on Dec 20 2009, 11:42 AM:
    The Gachet wrote on Dec 20 2009, 01:16 AM:
    That photo was taken at the 2001 Volvo PGA Championship at Wentworth when he was out of contract and I think still going through that complicated situation with Adams. Notice the blank bag, glove and headcovers with the Mizuno Staff towel and TP-19's half covered in lead !



    Under those headcovers was a Titleist 975 driver and 975F 3-wood.



    His putter was a Scotty Cameron Del Mar 3.5 Tour in black.


    NickFaldoScottyCameronDelMar35Tour.jpg



    NickFaldoScottyCameronDelMar35Tour1.jpg



    NickFaldoScottyCameronDelMar35Tour2.jpg


    Actually it appears that he was using the old Taylor Made TPA XVIII at the 2001 Volvo PGA and for a few years previously occasionally switching to the Odyssey Dual Force Rossie II and then upgraded to the Scotty Cameron Del Mar 3.5 Tour later in 2001. I guess Scotty developed this putter after some sort of request or just seeing Nick go back to a putter that he had had so much success with over ten years earlier !?



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  • Roland Roland Back Hacking.. Members Posts: 714 ✭✭
    Great pictures and info from both of you image/clapping.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':clapping:' />



    the Augusta pic is now my wallpaper!
    Driver: M1 2016
    Fairway: Jet Speed Tour
    Hybrid: Adams Tour Proto 19˚
    DI: Mizuno FliHi 18º
    Irons: 714 AP2 4-PW
    Wedges: Callaway Tour Grind 52˚ & 58˚
    Putter: Spider CS Original
  • NPVWhizNPVWhiz Members Posts: 1,976 ✭✭
    edited Dec 20, 2009 #190
    The Gachet wrote on Dec 18 2009, 09:40 AM:
    Below is a couple of pictures of Nick Faldo's Mizuno TP-19 irons. They were different from the released retail version as shown at the very bottom with there being no TP-19 stamping visible on the side of the hosel, his had TP-19 NF stamped on the back of each hosel and his also came with the bold solid 'MP style' numbering on the sole rather than the outlined European style numbering which was present on most TP models.



    FaldoTP-19Close-Up.jpg



    NickFaldoMizunoTP-19.jpg NickFaldoMizunoTP-19Soles.jpg



    RetailMizunoTP-19.jpg RetailMizunoTP-19a.jpg






    I've been mulling this idea over for years, but haven't really had the opportunity to trot it out, so here goes.



    Faldo's TP-19s were not TP-19s.....they were really the Japanese MS-203 model with different markings. The MS-203 had the longest hosel of any of the Mizunos I've ever run across. Look at the iron that he's holding in the picture...how much shorter the hosel is than the full set just to the lower left. That set on the lower left, along with the sole shots are a dead giveaway...those are the MS-203 with the European market tour proven stampings.



    I've played 203s for years and at one point I thought that the TP-19 was just a re-marked model of the 203, but I bought a TP-19 5 iron off Ebay last year just to compare, and they aren't quite the same. Very similar, but with some very subtle design changes. The overall design motif is there, but they're different.





    Interestingly, the Mizuno Super-11 looks similar to both, and is a slightly different version as well, with a really unusual amount of sole grind and shaping.



    I've owned 10 different models of Mizuno irons from the various markets, and in my seriously range rat opinion, the MS-203 stands head and shoulders above the rest of them for the way the ball feels at impact.
    Taylormade r11s 9 Penley Stealth 70x 44.5" D-3
    > Taylormade 16 M1 8.5 GD AD TP6x 44.0" D3 PX Hzrdus Black 75 6.0 44.5" D-3
    Nickent 3DX Pro 14 MRC Diamana WB 83s
    Hybrid: Adams Idea Pro 18 Grafalloy CNote ProtoX
    Mizuno MP62 DG x-100 Sensicore D-4 3-pw
    > Ping i200 DG120 S3 D-3 +1/4" Red 4-U.
    Vokey SM6 56-14/60-04M DG x-100 Sensicore 1xss D-5
    > Vokey SM6 56/10 60/4M DG 120 S300 35" D-5
    Scotty Golo
  • The GachetThe Gachet Members Posts: 3,451 ✭✭
    edited Dec 20, 2009 #191
    NPVWhiz wrote on Dec 20 2009, 02:46 PM:
    The Gachet wrote on Dec 18 2009, 09:40 AM:
    Below is a couple of pictures of Nick Faldo's Mizuno TP-19 irons. They were different from the released retail version as shown at the very bottom with there being no TP-19 stamping visible on the side of the hosel, his had TP-19 NF stamped on the back of each hosel and his also came with the bold solid 'MP style' numbering on the sole rather than the outlined European style numbering which was present on most TP models.



    FaldoTP-19Close-Up.jpg



    NickFaldoMizunoTP-19.jpg NickFaldoMizunoTP-19Soles.jpg



    RetailMizunoTP-19.jpg RetailMizunoTP-19a.jpg






    I've been mulling this idea over for years, but haven't really had the opportunity to trot it out, so here goes.



    Faldo's TP-19s were not TP-19s.....they were really the Japanese MS-203 model with different markings. The MS-203 had the longest hosel of any of the Mizunos I've ever run across. Look at the iron that he's holding in the picture...how much shorter the hosel is than the full set just to the lower left. That set on the lower left, along with the sole shots are a dead giveaway...those are the MS-203 with the European market tour proven stampings.



    I've played 203s for years and at one point I thought that the TP-19 was just a re-marked model of the 203, but I bought a TP-19 5 iron off Ebay last year just to compare, and they aren't quite the same. Very similar, but with some very subtle design changes. The overall design motif is there, but they're different.





    Interestingly, the Mizuno Super-11 looks similar to both, and is a slightly different version as well, with a really unusual amount of sole grind and shaping.



    I've owned 10 different models of Mizuno irons from the various markets, and in my seriously range rat opinion, the MS-203 stands head and shoulders above the rest of them for the way the ball feels at impact.


    Many thanks for the interesting information as I can totally relate to what you are saying and have actually heard this theory before that they were basically the Japanese MS-203's which were normally satin basically chromed up and stamped as TP-19's. Therefore it had some relation to the European market in line with what was being released there, the TP-19's.



    This would explain the solid type sole numbering and also the difference in head shape which is very noticible as I play the TP-19's and they do look a different shape to his.



    The only strange thing now which I never noticed before but since we are all now staring at hosels is why would the one he is holding in the photo be different to the ones shown directly below with the longer hosels since they are both actually his clubs !?



    Thanks again for posting !
  • NPVWhizNPVWhiz Members Posts: 1,976 ✭✭
    edited Dec 20, 2009 #192
    I bet the promotional photo was with the production version of the Euro-market TP-19. He was so influential at that stage that he could have had about anything he wanted. He may well have had sets of the "prototype" TP-19, if you could refer to the MS-203 that way, and later had sets of the production version of the TP-19. But after looking at the photos of the set below, they just look completely familiar to me as the MS-203. The short irons on the 203s were really deep in the heel, and the longer irons starting with the 7 were a little more traditional looking.



    The thing that really amazes me about Mizuno over the years is that they had such a huge variety of forged models, especially in the Japan market. Many models had similar design characteristics, yet each were different in some aspect.



    I think that the 203 has such a unique feel to me because of the long hosel. Mine had a hosel depth of almost 1.75 inches, much deeper than you find on many modern irons. Over the years I have come to think that has something to do with the fabulous trajectory they produce and the way they feel at impact.



    I've made 15 sets of irons, maybe more, in the last few years to identical specs to my 203s, and I just haven't found a set that feels as good. But the short hosel, short hosel depth irons really feel off to me in general. I was REALLY lucky last year to have found a Japan based Ebayer who found a pristine set of MS 203s last fall.
    Taylormade r11s 9 Penley Stealth 70x 44.5" D-3
    > Taylormade 16 M1 8.5 GD AD TP6x 44.0" D3 PX Hzrdus Black 75 6.0 44.5" D-3
    Nickent 3DX Pro 14 MRC Diamana WB 83s
    Hybrid: Adams Idea Pro 18 Grafalloy CNote ProtoX
    Mizuno MP62 DG x-100 Sensicore D-4 3-pw
    > Ping i200 DG120 S3 D-3 +1/4" Red 4-U.
    Vokey SM6 56-14/60-04M DG x-100 Sensicore 1xss D-5
    > Vokey SM6 56/10 60/4M DG 120 S300 35" D-5
    Scotty Golo
  • The GachetThe Gachet Members Posts: 3,451 ✭✭
    edited Aug 30, 2010 #193
    Very interesting stuff and logical, thank you NPVWhiz ! Not sure that the one he is holding is a production model TP-19 though as it appears to be alot more compact with softer lines especially around the toe and it does not have the stamping on the side of the hosel like retail version !?



    I have attached some photos below comparing the MS-203 and the TP-19's so other readers can see what we are actually talking about.



    MS-203a.jpg



    TP-19b.jpg



    MS203.jpg



    MS203a.jpg



    Faldo's Irons below

    MizunoTP19NF3.jpg



    TP-19Line-1.jpg
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  • The GachetThe Gachet Members Posts: 3,451 ✭✭
    edited Aug 30, 2010 #194
    I think the real answer to this iron mystery is that Faldo's Mizuno irons were not MS-203's and not actually TP-19's, well not the production model anyway. They were obviously an iron knocked up by Mizuno especially for him with his input, grinds, shape and look which was coincidently similar and could have in fact been based on the already manufactured MS-203 irons. His iron was then stamped with a Tour Proven stamping in the most prominent place and one that had never been used before on any of their straight muscle production blades (directly on the back of the muscle) and then named it TP-19 in line with what was going to be their latest TP offering. This was then later produced and released to the European market in conjunction with their newest and biggest signing Faldo who being considered as the number one player in the world using a set of their irons and now readily available to the public. I can remember when I first saw him using them, everyone wanted a set and they were the first TP model to be released for some while as their existing models had been around for a while. This TP-19 production model looked very similar to Faldo's in where the Tour Proven stamping was located and the overall shape and finish but on closer inspection were actually very different.



    In history, every Mizuno iron he used prior to these personalised TP-19's were basically prototype or customised what with the blank TP-9's used in 1989 and the blank TN-87's used in 1990 and he wasn't even a contracted staff player back then and since his departure from Mizuno they have been different again, as below with a set of MP-33's without the 'Grain Flow Forged' stamping on the neck and his PW which looks like an MP-29 model in shape but just has the Tour Proven style 'M' stamped on the muscle. I'm sure that they too are very different from the production MP-33's and MP-29 PW in both shape and design.



    To answer why the iron he is holding in the picture appears different to the set shown directly below, I believe that the lower photo is of a very early set of these so called TP-19's which do appear to be more MS-203 shaped and the top photo is definitely a good few years later. Chances are is that the design may have been tweaked over the years, shortening the hosel, thinning the sole or whatever the other requested changes may have been just creating a slightly different appearance and shape preference for his swing but were still kept visually as a TP-19 as it was the model initially released by Mizuno when he became a contracted staff player as the 'Faldo Blade' made especially for him and gave us mortals an opportunity of owning as well.



    FaldoMP-33-1.jpg



    FaldoMP-29-2.jpg
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  • turtlekcturtlekc 1995 MN PGA WisconsinClubWRX Posts: 12,781 ClubWRX
    Fascinating information The Gachet. Thank you for sharing your expertise!



    Kevin
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  • jebbjebb Unregistered Posts: 1,647 ✭✭
    I absolutely love this thread!! Big thanks to all.
    That Aint Billy Bob!!
  • jebbjebb Unregistered Posts: 1,647 ✭✭
    To think what he could have achieved had Stack and Tilt been around back in the day... image/wink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' />
    That Aint Billy Bob!!
  • kiwidavekiwidave Members Posts: 802
    He played a driver with no loft at St Andrews? That would be a cool driver too see.
  • The GachetThe Gachet Members Posts: 3,451 ✭✭
    edited Dec 23, 2009 #201
    kiwidave wrote on Dec 23 2009, 08:16 AM:
    He played a driver with no loft at St Andrews? That would be a cool driver too see.


    I'm pretty sure that this has been discussed before and is seen as possibly a slight exageration with it actually being closer to 7 or 8 degrees !?



    It would be nice to hear further some information or details on it !?
  • The GachetThe Gachet Members Posts: 3,451 ✭✭
    edited Aug 30, 2010 #202
    Fifegolfer wrote on Apr 25 2008, 10:19 AM:
    villa wrote on Apr 22 2008, 12:02 PM:
    Nick was always a blade player and apart from a set of Spaldings when he first turned pro (which he ground to his specs himself) he always used Mizuno (even when he was with Wilson). He used various different models over the years as stated above. For a short period towards the end of his time with Mizuno, Nick even had spells with the T-Zoid Pro and T-Zoid True irons. He used to use a Wilson sand wedge (with 4 port holes in the back) until Mizuno released the Faldo line of wedges.



    Mizuno used to have a clubmaker called Turbo who personally ground all of Nick's clubs for him during the late 80's / early 90's. As Jebb rightly said, Nick used a Macgregor wooden driver and Mizuno Hot Metal 3 wood up until the point when Mizuno released the T-Zoid range. He then went on to use the T-Zoid T3 woods (notably at his Masters win in 1996). He also used a 5 wood that week but because of the difference in lofts compared to modern clubs, he still carried the 2 iron.



    Nick then had a short spell with Adams in the late 90's. They spent a fortune getting him and even released their own line of Faldo wedges and a Faldo driver (which I owned, it was rubbish) though he still had Mizuno irons in the bag. He then had a break before joining Nike where as someone pointed out, he used the Pro-Combo irons. I read in an article that he left one of these companies because they were forcing him to use a driver that he didn't like. Not sure who it is though.



    Since then he's played whatever he wants (MP-60's, i3 blades, TM TP's etc). He said he liked to use Ping because he could phone them from home and they would deliver exactly what he wanted the following day.



    I've heard both said about the TPA putter that he used to use. I don't think anyone's sure whether it was a Taylor Made or Wilson. He also used the Ping B60 to good affect for some years but most notibly, the Odyssey Rossie Dual Force was possibly the one he's most famous for. I've heard people from Odyssey say that they don't know where they'd be without the sales boom that came from Nick's wins with that putter. It was shortly after this that Callaway bought Odyssey. All he asked of them was to make him a gold one like Ping did when he won with the B60.




    Not quite true.



    When Faldo's game went south in the mid eighties and he lost his contracts Glynwed engineering etc he played with a set of Be copper Pings for many months In fact he played for England at the Dunhill team championship with a blank bag with Pings in it .

    Faldo also won majors using a Mizuno Driver which is in the Golf Museum in St Andrews. Regarding his putter it was a Taylor Made which Wilson bought the copyright to later


    Based on this quote earlier in the thread I thought it would be worth a crack to give the British Golf Museum a call but unfortunately they confirmed that they do not have any of his drivers currently in their collection. Only item they mentioned was his blue Pringle polo shirt that he wore when he won at Muirfied in 1992.



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  • AscanAscan Members Posts: 465 ✭✭
    This is an awesome thread. Thanks for posting the vintage pics, guys!
    WITB:
    Driver: Taylormade M2 10.5*
    3 Wood: Titleist 915f 15*
    Hybrid: Titleist 816 H2 19*
    Irons: Mizuno Mp-32
    Wedges: Vokey sm6 52, 56, 60
    Putter: Scotty Cameron Newport with 3x Black Finish
  • Virginia hackerVirginia hacker Members Posts: 47
    +1. Best thread going IMHO image/clapping.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':clapping:' />
  • The GachetThe Gachet Members Posts: 3,451 ✭✭
    Here is a photo of Faldo using a Mizuno TP-522 (52°) Pitching Wedge made out of Aluminum Bronze which he referred to as his 'middle softest wedge'. As you can make out he had three large portholes drilled out of the back which were then filled with lead adding weight. He used this periodically throughout the early nineties substituting the lob wedge to keep a three wedge combination in play out of four available options as listed below depending on the respective course yardages.



    This information was quoted in one of his instructional videos so you could say it was 'straight from the horse's mouth'.



    Standard PW (49°) = 125 yards

    Middle Wedge (52°) = 110 yards

    Sand Wedge (55°) = 95 yards

    Lob Wedge (60°) = 75 yards



    FaldoTP-522Wedge.jpg



    A production Mizuno TP-522 Pitching Wedge.



    MizunoTP-522.jpg
  • CNCSQUAREDCNCSQUARED Members Posts: 312
    GET ME A BOX OF REXTAR GOLF BALLS!!!
  • sevenfouratesevenfourate Devotee of OCD ENGLAND.Members Posts: 1,882 ✭✭
    CNCSQUARED wrote on Dec 25 2009, 06:51 AM:
    GET ME A BOX OF REXTAR GOLF BALLS!!!




    OMG - Bridgestone Rextar Pro Model's.



    Those things used to come with a length of elastic attatched ! First ball i ever got some reasonably controlled and genuine backspin with. Might come in handy again with the new groove rule......
    Regards - 'Shuv'

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    BRIDGESTONE J33 (15) - Grafalloy ProLaunch Red - X
    MIZUNO Fli-Hi (17+20) - Grafalloy ProLaunch Red - X
    TAYLORMADE UDi No 4 (23 degree) - Project X - 6.5
    CALLAWAY X22 Tour Irons (5 - PW) - Project X - 6.5
    CALLAWAY MD3 Black (52+58 deg) - DG PRO S300
    ODYSSEY White Hot Pro 2 - (Rossie) - 343g  / 34.5"
    TAYLORMADE TP5 Golf Ball ←NEW 2019 Version→

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  • The GachetThe Gachet Members Posts: 3,451 ✭✭
    edited Aug 30, 2010 #208
    sevenfourate wrote on Dec 25 2009, 06:57 AM:
    CNCSQUARED wrote on Dec 25 2009, 06:51 AM:
    GET ME A BOX OF REXTAR GOLF BALLS!!!




    OMG - Bridgestone Rextar Pro Model's.



    Those things used to come with a length of elastic attatched ! First ball i ever got some reasonably controlled and genuine backspin with. Might come in handy again with the new groove rule......


    RextarProModel.jpg



    RextarProModel1.jpg



    RextarProModelFaldoSleeve.jpg
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  • sevenfouratesevenfourate Devotee of OCD ENGLAND.Members Posts: 1,882 ✭✭
    Ohhh your such a tease image/good.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':good:' />



    Exactly as i remember them.Even the packaging had class. I can recall now my dad buying me two dozen for a Birthday present,and the anticipation in waiting for them to come (Mail order).



    I had my TP-19's in the Wilson Staff bag then too.I was such a wanna-be !
    Regards - 'Shuv'

    PING G20 - 9.5  degree - Grafalloy ProLaunch Red - X
    BRIDGESTONE J33 (15) - Grafalloy ProLaunch Red - X
    MIZUNO Fli-Hi (17+20) - Grafalloy ProLaunch Red - X
    TAYLORMADE UDi No 4 (23 degree) - Project X - 6.5
    CALLAWAY X22 Tour Irons (5 - PW) - Project X - 6.5
    CALLAWAY MD3 Black (52+58 deg) - DG PRO S300
    ODYSSEY White Hot Pro 2 - (Rossie) - 343g  / 34.5"
    TAYLORMADE TP5 Golf Ball ←NEW 2019 Version→

    SHUV'S WITB: http://www.golfwrx.c...l-and-now-2016/
  • leadlead Members Posts: 168
    edited Dec 25, 2009 #210
    sevenfourate wrote on Dec 25 2009, 06:02 AM:
    Ohhh your such a tease image/good.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':good:' />



    Exactly as i remember them.Even the packaging had class. I can recall now my dad buying me two dozen for a Birthday present,and the anticipation in waiting for them to come (Mail order).



    I had my TP-19's in the Wilson Staff bag then too.I was such a wanna-be !




    So I wasn't alone...

    As a kid I had the the TP-9's, Mizuno bag (the big one), and of course Rextar golf balls.

    The clubs were too difficult, the balls went to short and that bag was a b#tch to carry around. You never listen to your parents as a kid... Finally when I came to my senses I switched clubs and to a lighter bag and my index dropped to 1. Only positive is you really learn to hit the irons when you start with forged stuff.
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  • The GachetThe Gachet Members Posts: 3,451 ✭✭
    edited Aug 30, 2010 #211
    Faldo won the 1996 US Masters using the Bridgestone Precept Tour Double Cover ball which was actually the world's first four piece golf ball.



    PreceptTour.jpg



    PreceptTour1.jpg



    He then changed to the Precept MC Tour Premium ball in 1999 which was the world's first multi-layered three piece urethane covered golf ball.



    PreceptMC.jpg



    PreceptMC1.jpg
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