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Are we really not going to talk about how fast Tiger was swinging it this week or how incredible that is for someone his age on tour with his injury history? It even woke Brandel up, he looked like ghost talking about it. My mind is blown that he can still move it that fast, he's now tied for 4th on tour in clubbed speed and thats ahead of Rory, DJ, and JB and Bubba.
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  • ebrasmus21ebrasmus21 Serial Shanker CAMembers  6174WRX Points: 1,910Handicap: 2.7Posts: 6,174 Titanium Tees
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    As Tiger would say he “has his speed back” <br />
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    Pretty **** impressive for old man Tiger.
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  • thevaporzthevaporz Members  3326WRX Points: 443Handicap: 13Posts: 3,326 Titanium Tees
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    JB and fast is an oxymoron.
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    I want to see him swing 128 with max smash factor, 192 BS would be pretty cool to see.
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    Where's the proof for 128?<br />
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    Tiger has stuck to his guns about "getting stronger" and "getting my speed back." No choice but to respect it. <br />
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    He's a great student of the game and knows it's been a hitters game for a while now.<br />
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    I am really impressed with how fast he is swinging it. His proximity was pretty insane this week.<br />
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    Hope he stays healthy.
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    It’s simply him being healthy.. If the guy is injury free he’s always had crazy clubhead speed.
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    Awesome to see him hammering the ball like this BUT I'm a little skeptical of that 128mph. He's had his clubhead and ballspeed measured on 9 drives this year. If you look at his max ball speed, it really doesn't line up with anything near 128, much more like 120-122mph (still insane). Looking over the max clubhead speed numbers over the last few years, you will note some numbers far beyond the standard deviation for certain players. I think trackman, as awesome as it is, delivers bad data from time to time.<br />
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    Hoping he can back it up with a few more 128mph swings to prove me wrong.
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  • jus711jus711 Members  78WRX Points: 71Posts: 78 Fairways
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    Where's the proof for 128?<br />
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    jus711 wrote:
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    Where's the proof for 128?<br />
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    Yeah and this (see max measured speed): https://www.pgatour.com/stats/stat.02401.html<br />
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    Golf Channel is a little misleading (purposefully I'm sure), his clubhead speed would be the highest since 2007 if he averaged 128mph for the season. A good handful of guys have been clocked at 128mph or more before.
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    OnOff wrote:
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    Awesome to see him hammering the ball like this BUT I'm a little skeptical of that 128mph. He's had his clubhead and ballspeed measured on 9 drives this year. If you look at his max ball speed, it really doesn't line up with anything near 128, much more like 120-122mph (still insane). Looking over the max clubhead speed numbers over the last few years, you will note some numbers far beyond the standard deviation for certain players. I think trackman, as awesome as it is, delivers bad data from time to time.<br />
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    Hoping he can back it up with a few more 128mph swings to prove me wrong.<br />
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    I think there’s some truth to that but he was the fastest on 3 of the 4 days, today Rory was 122 club speed and 180 ball speed on 3 which is pretty standard numbers for him and Tiger was 127, if the radar was putting out inflated numbers it would be doing it for everyone. Also, the 3rd hole was in to the wind all week and Tiger was playing a low cut, his angle of attack was -4 and -5, that’s going to reduce your ball speed and your carry.
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    jus711 wrote:
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    OnOff wrote:
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    Awesome to see him hammering the ball like this BUT I'm a little skeptical of that 128mph. He's had his clubhead and ballspeed measured on 9 drives this year. If you look at his max ball speed, it really doesn't line up with anything near 128, much more like 120-122mph (still insane). Looking over the max clubhead speed numbers over the last few years, you will note some numbers far beyond the standard deviation for certain players. I think trackman, as awesome as it is, delivers bad data from time to time.<br />
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    Hoping he can back it up with a few more 128mph swings to prove me wrong.<br />
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    I think there’s some truth to that but he was the fastest on 3 of the 4 days, today Rory was 122 club speed and 180 ball speed on 3 which is pretty standard numbers for him and Tiger was 127, if the radar was putting out inflated numbers it would be doing it for everyone. Also, the 3rd hole was in to the wind all week and Tiger was playing a low cut, his angle of attack was -4 and -5, that’s going to reduce your ball speed and your carry.<br />
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    Didn't know he put up 127 on 3 today. That definitely supports it being real.
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    jus711 wrote:
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    Are we really not going to talk about how fast Tiger was swinging it this week or how incredible that is for someone his age on tour with his injury history? It even woke Brandel up, he looked like ghost talking about it. I only have the numbers for round 1 and 2 but on the weekend he was up to 128 and 127, he was playing low cuts into the wind so it hurt the overall distance and ball speed, but my mind is blown that he can still move it that fast, he's now tied for 4th on tour in clubbed speed and thats ahead of Rory, DJ, and JB and Bubba.<br />
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    Do you have to have special credentials to access that data you posted in your screenshot? Looks like data I would drool over all day.
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    OnOff wrote:
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    Didn't know he put up 127 on 3 today. That definitely supports it being real.<br />
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    They discussed it on Golf Central after the tournament tonight, Brandel was going over the numbers and mentioned how a lot of people were questioning them so he looked at all of them. I heard Rory’s for today on pgatour live during his round. I was skeptical too since he was “only” 119 last week in LA, but there was an interview from back in January when he was testing clubs that said he was hitting 126/126 consistently that day. He’s always hit down on the driver especially when he plays a cut and so he doesn’t get the most out of it and the swing speed would probably go down a tad if he hit up on it but still I’m amazed he’s got that kind of speed still in the tank and it’s very encouraging for him going forward, it’s hard to dominate and be consistently competitive if you aren’t long.
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    OnOff wrote:
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    Do you have to have special credentials to access that data you posted in your screenshot? Looks like data I would drool over all day.<br />
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    I got that screenshot off Twitter, I tried to go to that shot link site and you do need a login and password, I agree I wish they’d post links to that stuff on the Pga tour site.
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    https://www.pgatour.com/stats/stat.02401.html<br />
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    #4 overall and his fastest of 128.4 second only to Kevin Tway at 129.0. Impressive for sure. Not to state the obvious but I'm pretty sure CHS isn't going to be the issue in this return--no "old man golf" here.
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    No comments from all the "experts" on here that said he was going to have to learn to play Pavin type golf? Dink it off the tee and get it done in other ways?? HMMM <img src='http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />
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    CBS showed a stat that Tiger was 2nd in distance off the tee for the week. That is incredible.
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    mosesgolf wrote:
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    CBS showed a stat that Tiger was 2nd in distance off the tee for the week. That is incredible.<br />
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    Particularly since he seemed to hit driving iron off most tees!
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    He put his career and the rest of the life on the line with surgery and swinging as he does.<br />
    However he is a contender now in Masters.
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    755 wrote:
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    No comments from all the "experts" on here that said he was going to have to learn to play Pavin type golf? Dink it off the tee and get it done in other ways?? HMMM <img src='http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' /><br />
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    Yeah, I think that ship has sailed...
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    Two things:<br />
    1) How do they actually account for the fact that he was hitting 3W or 5W a lot of the time? and,<br />
    2) It's crazy that in his interview with Dottie Pepper after the round, he mentioned his priority before Augusta was "getting back to the gym and building strength." Maybe that's intended to prevent back injury, but he looked hella strong out there. Dare I say, linebacker-ish? Kidding, of course...
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    They only measure 2 holes per round. <br />
    The precision of most of his iron shots was also impressive. <br />
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    i will be honest, i am skeptical of all the trackman data that is shown ( for every player ).
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    I'm 41 years old and had spinal fusion surgery 2 months ago.<br />
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    Needless to say, I've been following Tiger's return closely. It makes me cringe seeing him swing so hard - but I love that he his playing well and returning to form. Gives me some hope that I will be able to play again myself.
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    His smash factor ranked 110th or so. Not a recipe for great contact. He should swing 116-118 like Rahm and Justin Thomas and then he'd actually hit fairways
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    The Trackman data the tour measures is flawed due to how they measure it. The unit isn’t directly behind the player like how it’s traditionally used as they have to be able to cover all shots from anywhere on the tee. So you get soon very poor launch angle and spin readings and some bad clubhead speed readings as a result
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    Watching him with driver was pretty impressive this week, but it was also somewhat nerve-wracking. To be honest, I’d rather see him use 3 wood on every hole as it seems to give him more shots at birdie. Now if he can get more consistent with his driver and avoid trouble- stand by.
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    Benkross wrote:
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    His smash factor ranked 110th or so. Not a recipe for great contact. He should swing 116-118 like Rahm and Justin Thomas and then he'd actually hit fairways<br />
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    You could be right, but I'd say tempo is more important than just slowing it down an arbitrary amount. Obviously no one should be swinging out their shoes on every drive, but some of my worst drives happen when I focus too much on slowing down.<br />
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    I do think Tiger's driving has been slowly improving week by week since playing at Torrey. I thought this week was better than Riviera.
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    cvvorst wrote:
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    Benkross wrote:
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    His smash factor ranked 110th or so. Not a recipe for great contact. He should swing 116-118 like Rahm and Justin Thomas and then he'd actually hit fairways<br />
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    You could be right, but I'd say tempo is more important than just slowing it down an arbitrary amount. Obviously no one should be swinging out their shoes on every drive, but some of my worst drives happen when I focus too much on slowing down.<br />
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    I do think Tiger's driving has been slowly improving week by week since playing at Torrey. I thought this week was better than Riviera.<br />
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    By April can Tiger: <br />
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    1. Figure out how to hit it in the middle of the face and,<br />
    2. Hit some more fairways with that speed<br />
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    Could make a very interesting Masters.
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    Benkross wrote:
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    His smash factor ranked 110th or so. Not a recipe for great contact. He should swing 116-118 like Rahm and Justin Thomas and then he'd actually hit fairways<br />
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    To get to 116mph, JT swings out of his shoes, literally. I am a big fan of JT but as a guy with slight body he will be susceptible for the same kinda injuries that are starting to pile up on Day & Rory.<br />
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    I am convinced that longevity of the current generation of players is going to much shorter than previous generations but I think that is fine considering how much money they make.
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    iteachgolf wrote:
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    The Trackman data the tour measures is flawed due to how they measure it. The unit isn't directly behind the player like how it's traditionally used as they have to be able to cover all shots from anywhere on the tee. So you get soon very poor launch angle and spin readings and some bad clubhead speed readings as a result<br />
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    ^^^^ This. Pro A stands on the right side of a tee box to hit a fade while Pro B stands on the left side of the tee box to hit a draw. Pro A and Pro B each swing 117.5 mph, but Trackman is going to spit out very different numbers top to bottom for the two shots, and neither set of numbers will say 117.5.<br />
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    Don't put too much weight into those numbers. His swing passes the eye test better than it has in many years, and he just led the field in proximity to the hole after saying iron distance control was his big weakness last week. Those are the parts that are really encouraging--and of course him being able to play a few tournaments without any injury WDs.<br />
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    Could be a very interesting Masters this year....
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