The Stock Tour Swing by Tyler Ferrell – Excellent Swing Instruction Book!

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  • ShipwreckShipwreck Members Posts: 3,728 ✭✭
    Bought it last night and should be delivered on Sunday. Looking forward to seeing what it’s all about.

    Bag as of 14MAY2019
    Driver - Cobra F9 Speedback w/ Evenflow White 76x
    3w - Cobra F8 w/ HZRDS RED 6.5
    Hybrid - Cobra F7 w/ Fuji VTS Silver Stiff
    Irons - Titleist 718 AP2 w/ AMT S300 Tour White 4-9
    Wedges Titleist SM7 w/ AMT S300 Tour White 46/50/54/60
    Putter - Odyssey O-Works #7

  • carreracarrera Members Posts: 2,548 ✭✭
    larson92 wrote:


    My one complaint about the book is that all of the pictures are black and white, and they are sometimes not labeled very well. However, you can figure things out with some thought.




    Agree with this. Also, there are some layout/editing problems that were overlooked in final proofreading. Otherwise, I am really enjoying this book.
    Cobra F9 Tour Length - Hzrdus Smoke 70 stiff
    Cobra F9 14.5 - Atmos Blue Stiff
    Callaway Epic Hybrid - Recoil 780 stiff
    Cobra King 3/4 Utility - Recoil 780 Smacwrap F4
    Cobra King Forged TEC Black - Recoil 95 F4 5-PW
    Cobra King Black wedges 54/58 versatile grinds - Recoil 110 F4
    Odyssey 2Ball
    TM TP5X
  • TheWoatTheWoat Members Posts: 550
    Random thoughts...I like that he recommends skimming the book first, then waiting a week before diving in... that was my plan.

    Yeah, the B&W images arent ideal, but Id rather pay $25 for B&W than $40 for color.



    Im really liking this book.
  • fore_lifefore_life Swung too hard, hit it too pure. Members Posts: 10,352 ✭✭
    Bought one last night
    Ping G400 LST Ust Attas Earth 9f5
    M4 15* with bimatrix rocket X
    Titleist 21* H2 evenflow blue 6.5
    718 tmb 4 iron
    718 cb 5-pw amt x100 tour
    Vokeys
    Cleveland TA milled 1i


    Various other putters currently in the closet,
    thinking about what they've done wrong,
    and how they've hurt me so.
  • GolfbeatGolfbeat Swing Lessee Members Posts: 1,656 ✭✭
    It's a good book but I prefer the paid website which is an absolute goldmine.
  • ShipwreckShipwreck Members Posts: 3,728 ✭✭
    Just came in the mail and I’m starting Section 1 right now. I appreciate his approach to the swing and how he instructs. Can’t wait to see what it does.

    Bag as of 14MAY2019
    Driver - Cobra F9 Speedback w/ Evenflow White 76x
    3w - Cobra F8 w/ HZRDS RED 6.5
    Hybrid - Cobra F7 w/ Fuji VTS Silver Stiff
    Irons - Titleist 718 AP2 w/ AMT S300 Tour White 4-9
    Wedges Titleist SM7 w/ AMT S300 Tour White 46/50/54/60
    Putter - Odyssey O-Works #7

  • carreracarrera Members Posts: 2,548 ✭✭
    Golfbeat wrote:


    It's a good book but I prefer the paid website which is an absolute goldmine.




    Agree - the website is great. Happy with my book purchase also.
    Cobra F9 Tour Length - Hzrdus Smoke 70 stiff
    Cobra F9 14.5 - Atmos Blue Stiff
    Callaway Epic Hybrid - Recoil 780 stiff
    Cobra King 3/4 Utility - Recoil 780 Smacwrap F4
    Cobra King Forged TEC Black - Recoil 95 F4 5-PW
    Cobra King Black wedges 54/58 versatile grinds - Recoil 110 F4
    Odyssey 2Ball
    TM TP5X
  • dasamsdasams Members Posts: 248 ✭✭
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  • TheWoatTheWoat Members Posts: 550
    carrera wrote:

    Golfbeat wrote:


    It's a good book but I prefer the paid website which is an absolute goldmine.




    Agree - the website is great. Happy with my book purchase also.




    How was the YT live thing from today?
  • carreracarrera Members Posts: 2,548 ✭✭
    I think his YouTube Q&A's would be better if he did separate ones for "Swing Nerds" and "Regular Folks". On today's YT there were some interesting questions that went unanswered due to time constraints (they will be answered in the next YT), but time was spent on some technical questions (COM, some other things) that were over my head. In the book he carves out a few short sections that are for Swing Nerds, and guys like me can skip over them.



    Having separate YT's would allow him to dive into the technical for those with that interest, while going over less-technical things for others.
    Cobra F9 Tour Length - Hzrdus Smoke 70 stiff
    Cobra F9 14.5 - Atmos Blue Stiff
    Callaway Epic Hybrid - Recoil 780 stiff
    Cobra King 3/4 Utility - Recoil 780 Smacwrap F4
    Cobra King Forged TEC Black - Recoil 95 F4 5-PW
    Cobra King Black wedges 54/58 versatile grinds - Recoil 110 F4
    Odyssey 2Ball
    TM TP5X
  • WedgefromhereWedgefromhere Members Posts: 378 ✭✭
    TheWoat wrote:

    carrera wrote:

    Golfbeat wrote:


    It's a good book but I prefer the paid website which is an absolute goldmine.




    Agree - the website is great. Happy with my book purchase also.




    How was the YT live thing from today?




    I thought it was great and anyone not watching is really missing out. A lot of the topics were very timely for me and he even answered my question.
  • dblindendblinden Members Posts: 107 ✭✭
    wedgefromhere said: I thought it was great and anyone not watching is really missing out. A lot of the topics were very timely for me and he even answered my question.



    I concur 100%. Regarding the other poster's concern, there was only one "technical" question about center of mass out of all the issues he addressed from listeners. Hardly a fair criticism and not a justification to change the format in any way. Ferrell is an excellent educator and I don't think his writings or presentation could be any better. My wife, who has never swung a golf club, enjoyed watching the entire Q&A program last night and said he explained topic points extremely well.
  • GolfbeatGolfbeat Swing Lessee Members Posts: 1,656 ✭✭
    Tyler's teaching method is based on science and facts very much in line with the AMG guys. He does an excellent job in translating the technical aspects into simple to understand language and moves like: the Motorcycle, the Wipe, the Jackson Five etc. Superb communicator.
  • carreracarrera Members Posts: 2,548 ✭✭
    dblinden wrote:


    Regarding the other poster's concern, there was only one "technical" question about center of mass out of all the issues he addressed from listeners. Hardly a fair criticism and not a justification to change the format in any way.




    There were a number of questions that went unanswered, and the discussion closed with a KM spinal engine discussion - I consider Kelvin's stuff in the same category.



    If every post on this board was just "That was great!", this would be a boring board. Hence my comments about the YT and the editing issues with the book. I've paid for the book and for Tyler's site, so I am not commenting about something I haven't paid for.
    Cobra F9 Tour Length - Hzrdus Smoke 70 stiff
    Cobra F9 14.5 - Atmos Blue Stiff
    Callaway Epic Hybrid - Recoil 780 stiff
    Cobra King 3/4 Utility - Recoil 780 Smacwrap F4
    Cobra King Forged TEC Black - Recoil 95 F4 5-PW
    Cobra King Black wedges 54/58 versatile grinds - Recoil 110 F4
    Odyssey 2Ball
    TM TP5X
  • nevets88nevets88 Members Posts: 784 ✭✭
    edited Mar 19, 2018 #46
    I'd agree that the formatting in the book, the text placement, organization, can be better, for example bullet point list split apart into two pages, but I'm sure he'll address that in future printings.
  • Unassuming Local GuyUnassuming Local Guy Members Posts: 32 ✭✭
    After a 5 year hiatus(main golfing buddy moved for job, was very sad but I'm picking it back up going solo) I first wanted to re-educate myself about the golf swing before just jumping back onto the range. I have the advantage of not really having a grooved, consistent swing so starting out with a "clean slate" will be helpful.



    I'm about halfway through the book(also recently re-read Hogan's, Tiger's, and a few others) and I'm loving the technical breakdown of body movements and how it affects swing path/club face.



    "Commit to yourself right now that every tip you try from this day forward will change the face, the path, or both"



    Seems like such a simple statement but can be easily lost when working on WHAT you are trying to do and accomplish with your swing. Also loved the steeps/shallows explanation and how different body movements affect the path of the club. I'm definitely feeling much more confident about understanding the golf swing and my own. The Jackson 5 drill paired with Monte's drop the ball I feel have really hammered home the weight shift/transition feel for me.



    Speaking of Monte, from watching your old grainy videos in 2012 I was really happy for you as I came back saw you've "made it big." Always loved your instruction and glad to see it's helping many others.
  • ShipwreckShipwreck Members Posts: 3,728 ✭✭
    So what’s been everyone’s experience so far when implementing these moves? Have any of you seen a significant amount of improvement in any parts of your game?

    Bag as of 14MAY2019
    Driver - Cobra F9 Speedback w/ Evenflow White 76x
    3w - Cobra F8 w/ HZRDS RED 6.5
    Hybrid - Cobra F7 w/ Fuji VTS Silver Stiff
    Irons - Titleist 718 AP2 w/ AMT S300 Tour White 4-9
    Wedges Titleist SM7 w/ AMT S300 Tour White 46/50/54/60
    Putter - Odyssey O-Works #7

  • TheWoatTheWoat Members Posts: 550
    Shipwreck wrote:


    So what's been everyone's experience so far when implementing these moves? Have any of you seen a significant amount of improvement in any parts of your game?




    Well, heres my plan, to be implemented once it stops raining:

    Swing issue: low point issues, flippy, get steep in transition, upper body moves toward target in transition

    Swing Fix: Add Jackson 5 move, motorcycle move, and shallowing move (the Sasho?)

    Results... TBD.



    I may not do the J5 move, and replace it by kicking out my lead knee (external rotation/squat/drop the basket type move)... in practice swings it seems to keep my upper body back while allowing a nice front knee post up when swing is done.
  • WedgefromhereWedgefromhere Members Posts: 378 ✭✭
    Shipwreck wrote:


    So what's been everyone's experience so far when implementing these moves? Have any of you seen a significant amount of improvement in any parts of your game?


    I didn't think people are going to see significant improvement a few days (or several weeks) after reading a book no matter how good it is and I'm pretty sure that was not Tyler's intention. For many of us it's going to be a process of determining what needs to change and ingrain new movements in order to take a better swing to the golf course.
  • jimmymac50jimmymac50 Members Posts: 54 ✭✭
    Here are some of my thoughts thus far about the book. With my lifelong tendency to stand up on the backswing (left shoulder going up), the concept of left side bend, spine extension incorporated with a solid turn puts me into an ideal backswing that I have been searching for. I guess I am good enough athlete where I was able to hit the ball fairly straight, but with considerable loss of power. It is very frustrating to hit the ball solid with a driver, yet still be 15 yards+ shorter than my golfing buddies.



    My mindset is to take my time and go through the book in detail. What I have found, is the website is the perfect compliment for the book. The book can be a little too detailed at times (or perhaps my current limited knowledge), but going through the videos ties everything together. I highly recommend the book along with the use of the website.



    A week ago, I had never heard of Tyler Ferrell or his book. I am very thankful to this site for mentioning him. Trying his concepts with much success in the simulator. Northwest Ohio has not blessed us with the perfect swing. March 21 and I look out the window to see snow. Best of luck.
  • ShipwreckShipwreck Members Posts: 3,728 ✭✭

    Shipwreck wrote:


    So what's been everyone's experience so far when implementing these moves? Have any of you seen a significant amount of improvement in any parts of your game?


    I didn't think people are going to see significant improvement a few days (or several weeks) after reading a book no matter how good it is and I'm pretty sure that was not Tyler's intention. For many of us it's going to be a process of determining what needs to change and ingrain new movements in order to take a better swing to the golf course.




    I wasn’t thinking immediate improvement more so just any improvement since determining any faults. I am still going through the book and need to figure out where my faults are but I’m excited to see where it takes me.

    Bag as of 14MAY2019
    Driver - Cobra F9 Speedback w/ Evenflow White 76x
    3w - Cobra F8 w/ HZRDS RED 6.5
    Hybrid - Cobra F7 w/ Fuji VTS Silver Stiff
    Irons - Titleist 718 AP2 w/ AMT S300 Tour White 4-9
    Wedges Titleist SM7 w/ AMT S300 Tour White 46/50/54/60
    Putter - Odyssey O-Works #7

  • nevets88nevets88 Members Posts: 784 ✭✭
    I would think Ferrell would say improvement is gradual and I think he lists how to gauge it although I'm not sure if that's my memory of the book or his video. Do it on the range, the range in front of someone, on a practice round, etc...



    My recommendation for anyone who wants to dive deeper is to subscribe to his site, and take an online lesson. His rate is very reasonable.
  • ShipwreckShipwreck Members Posts: 3,728 ✭✭
    So in your opinion (speaking to those who subscribe to his site) it’s worth the $147/year one time fee vs the $240 spread out over the year?

    Bag as of 14MAY2019
    Driver - Cobra F9 Speedback w/ Evenflow White 76x
    3w - Cobra F8 w/ HZRDS RED 6.5
    Hybrid - Cobra F7 w/ Fuji VTS Silver Stiff
    Irons - Titleist 718 AP2 w/ AMT S300 Tour White 4-9
    Wedges Titleist SM7 w/ AMT S300 Tour White 46/50/54/60
    Putter - Odyssey O-Works #7

  • glkglk send it in jerome Members Posts: 3,319 ✭✭
    edited Mar 21, 2018 #55
    Shipwreck wrote:


    So in your opinion (speaking to those who subscribe to his site) it's worth the $147/year one time fee vs the $240 spread out over the year?


    Yes to $147 unless you only expect to be a member for 7 months or less.



    On improvement, I had a lesson from Monte last Oct. and then with iteach in February. Focus was transition/downswing. Going from steep to shallow.

    Joined Tyler's site late Spring. Focused on shallowing and motorcycle with a bit of jackson 5. Zorro loops, hands high/club head low, more relaxed arms, motorcycle (for me from p3-p4 - tried during transition but just isn't me). Once I started to shallow (and incorporated his driver swing drill ) I gained around 30 yards off the tee and at least one club with my irons.

    This year I've started in the last month to work on improved transition - so left tilt, AMG guys step drill. I started to actually take divots - want to improve low point control this year - where as before I was a classic picker - steep, EE, extend right arm at ball, pick it clean .



    So I had a natural place to start. I've made some little tweaks to my takeaway/backswing but more in line with the transition work I'm doing now - I used to have a very flat backswing with little left side bend so it's a process adding it in - and I'm starting ulnar deviation - delivery& go, and pump delivery.



    Just looking for more consistency and better low point control this year.
  • cmbdrxcmbdrx Members Posts: 33
    Shipwreck wrote:


    So in your opinion (speaking to those who subscribe to his site) it's worth the $147/year one time fee vs the $240 spread out over the year?




    An emphatic YES from me. The amount of quality content he provides is mind boggling.
  • ShipwreckShipwreck Members Posts: 3,728 ✭✭
    Alright! I’m convinced. I’ll get it tonight and hopefully be on tour in the next few weeks! Lmao

    Bag as of 14MAY2019
    Driver - Cobra F9 Speedback w/ Evenflow White 76x
    3w - Cobra F8 w/ HZRDS RED 6.5
    Hybrid - Cobra F7 w/ Fuji VTS Silver Stiff
    Irons - Titleist 718 AP2 w/ AMT S300 Tour White 4-9
    Wedges Titleist SM7 w/ AMT S300 Tour White 46/50/54/60
    Putter - Odyssey O-Works #7

  • glkglk send it in jerome Members Posts: 3,319 ✭✭
    Shipwreck wrote:


    Alright! I'm convinced. I'll get it tonight and hopefully be on tour in the next few weeks! Lmao


    You've got Masters tickets!
  • OldnavycdrOldnavycdr Members Posts: 907 ✭✭
    Can someone describe the Jackson 5 drill?
  • TheWoatTheWoat Members Posts: 550
    edited Mar 21, 2018 #60
    Oldnavycdr wrote:


    Can someone describe the Jackson 5 drill?




    There may be some missing details, but it's basically a hip bump in transition.



    Edit....found it



    https://golfsmartacademy.com/golf-instruction/jackson-5-drill1/

  • MPStratMPStrat Members Posts: 944 ✭✭
    The Jackson 5 is a hip bump forward while the head stays back early in transition. This move is only for those who lunge forward excessively with the upper body.



    If you watch his videos you will see that he is very well educated on 3D but does not teach the pelvis and upper body working forward together as has been proven to happen on 3D and is advocated by some 3D analysts as something that should be a conscious move. He was asked about this and his answer was interesting.. I’m paraphrasing but he said that he sees an excessive upper body lunge/cast among his students far more often than he sees those with too much tilt and hang back. He also said neither is ideal, but if he had to choose between the two, he would prefer the tilt back/ee move. I suspect with that student he would not recommend the Jackson 5.

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