Breakthrough Golf Technology (CEO Barney Adams) Stability putter shafts

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  • chadillac65chadillac65 FloridaPosts: 310 ✭✭
    T-3 wrote:



    The odyssey shaft has its similarities. Its much lighter then your average putter shaft but also stable like the BGT. I have used the new odyssey 7 with the shaft in question and it performs exactly how my BGT does for the most part.




    Is this the putter shaft Mickelson used in the Match?


    No this is not the same shaft Phil used.
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  • DfwgolfdudeDfwgolfdude Posts: 87 ✭✭
    I really want to try these!
    My bag
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  • RedWings1RedWings1 Members Posts: 327 ✭✭
    edited Dec 4, 2018 #304
    DFwgolfdude,



    Go for it! Go to the nearest Club Champion shop and get it done! I have 2 and really like it on both of my putters.
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    TaylorMade M4 3w 15* - Fuji Pro TS 73s
    TaylorMade M1 5w 19* - Fuji Pro TS 83s
    TourEdge CBX20* Hybrid Kuro Kage 70s (testing)
    Mizuno MP18 FliHi 3i - 20.5* CTaper 110s
    Bridgestone J15CB 4-PW (graphite shaft testing for 2019).
    TaylorMadeMG HiToe Wedges 55*, 50* KBS Hi-Rev, 60*ATV,
    Bettinardi KM1 Standard w/ BGT Stability shaft @33.25"
    Toulon Long Island w/ BGT Stability shaft @33.25"
    Srixon Z Star, BStone tourBX, TM TP5x
  • EaglesGolf99EaglesGolf99 (.... Formerly Known As RaidersGolf99) Foxboro, MAMembers Posts: 2,362 ✭✭
    Tried it this past weekend.



    There IS something THERE.



    Can't quite put my finger on it. But this thing has potential to be special. I want to get it outdoors, on the green, and see if I feel the same.
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  • TBD203TBD203 Members Posts: 492 ✭✭
    RedWings1 wrote:


    DFwgolfdude,



    Go for it! Go to the nearest Club Champion shop and get it done! I have 2 and really like it on both of my putters.


    Do all club champions have these? The closest one is a hour away but I do wanna go see and possibly get one of these. Wonder what their turnover time is
  • dre72dre72 Members Posts: 484 ✭✭
    TBD203 wrote:

    RedWings1 wrote:


    DFwgolfdude,



    Go for it! Go to the nearest Club Champion shop and get it done! I have 2 and really like it on both of my putters.


    Do all club champions have these? The closest one is a hour away but I do wanna go see and possibly get one of these. Wonder what their turnover time is


    My local club champion ordered one for me and it took a couple days to arrive. Dropped my putter off today and I’m picking it up tomorrow
  • Green ValleyGreen Valley Posts: 770 ✭✭
    RedWings1 wrote:


    DFwgolfdude,



    Go for it! Go to the nearest Club Champion shop and get it done! I have 2 and really like it on both of my putters.




    Review?
  • RedWings1RedWings1 Members Posts: 327 ✭✭
    Real frustrated trying to reply to your posts. I select the reply box in the lower right corner but your posts will no show up in my posts.



    TBD203 - I don't know about all the Club Champion shops, you need to call the one nearest to you.



    GreenValley - Myself and a few others have posted our experiences/reviews throughout this thread.



    Over the last few months before the golf season ended here in Michigan. I started with my Toulon, Adam from my Club Champion had a Toulon LI like mine already equipped with the BGT shaft. I tried it out, liked what I felt & saw. So I went for it because I already did my research before tying it out.



    After many hours putting from varied distances from 2' to 50' on multiple practice greens & courses, I could see a big enough difference (better then a standard putter shaft) in the average distance from the hole my putts stopped or made that I'm sold!

    I went ahead an had my Bettinardi done also.



    Disclaimer here: I did not measure each & every putt, nor did I plot out my results in a scientific analytical matter as some in this thread demand before they think it's not a gimmick. That being said, I understand the shortcoming from the BGT site. But I know what I see, feel and the fact I've made more putts then before is enough for me. I do think its more noticeable with heavier headed putters. Hopefully you have great results like me if you go the BGT route!
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    TaylorMade M4 3w 15* - Fuji Pro TS 73s
    TaylorMade M1 5w 19* - Fuji Pro TS 83s
    TourEdge CBX20* Hybrid Kuro Kage 70s (testing)
    Mizuno MP18 FliHi 3i - 20.5* CTaper 110s
    Bridgestone J15CB 4-PW (graphite shaft testing for 2019).
    TaylorMadeMG HiToe Wedges 55*, 50* KBS Hi-Rev, 60*ATV,
    Bettinardi KM1 Standard w/ BGT Stability shaft @33.25"
    Toulon Long Island w/ BGT Stability shaft @33.25"
    Srixon Z Star, BStone tourBX, TM TP5x
  • halliedoghalliedog Members Posts: 2,292 ✭✭
    Did the guy who was going to try a C-Taper X ever post any results? I think this shaft "seems interesting", but not ready to shell out $200. I just ordered a new putter that I'm going to either extend or put a new shaft in, so curious about the C-Taper experiment. $40 for a C-Taper 2 iron shaft seems like a better experiment at this point than a $200 putter shaft that no data has still come out on?
    WITB:
    Mizuno GT/ST-180 Dr w/ EvenFlow White 6.0 75
    Mizuno GT-180 3wd w/ Tensei CK White 75
    TM UDI 1, 3 w/ KBS C-Taper Lite S
    TM P770 4-PW w/ TT Tour Concept Satin
    TM Milled Grind 52* LB and 58* SB
    Odyssey O-Works 7S Tank
  • KRW59KRW59 Hoarder Members Posts: 827 ✭✭
    edited Dec 26, 2018 #311
    I'm not the C-Taper X guy , but I do have C-Taper S 120 3 and 4 iron shafts in 4

    of my no insert , plumber's hosel , moderately deep milled face putters.



    I did the first one for cosmetic reasons , they look really good with a brushed

    satin finish putter head. I found them to feel softer than the TT shafts they

    came with. For install I have tipped them about 1" , to remove the .355" taper

    and counter weighted the butt end with sugar in the last 12" to 14" to get the

    balance to feel right with my 350 to 365 gram heads / 58 gram grips. I'm pretty

    sure the sugar held in place with backing rod contributes to the softer feel.



    I'm seeing alot of the converts to the BGT shafts are using the very soft

    feeling Toulon , Bettinardi , and insert putters , with the stability shaft.

    To add feel / feedback to a putter that had very little. I achieved the same

    thing with installing the Accra FxP300 in my Betti Studio Stock #14 , carbon ,

    deep milled , fit face putter , It felt mushy , with no feed back , and my

    distance control suffered. The. Accra , a heavy , stable tipped , graphite

    shaft , added feel / feedback , and was a completely different putter after

    the swap...sorry for the off topic response...but my opinion as to why the

    Stability shaft is working for some people needed to be shared..YMMV...
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  • TBD203TBD203 Members Posts: 492 ✭✭
    I haven’t gotten mine on grass yet cause it’s New England but just waggling it around I like the feel of it so far.
  • halliedoghalliedog Members Posts: 2,292 ✭✭
    KRW59 wrote:


    I'm not the C-Taper X guy , but I do have C-Taper S 120 3 and 4 iron shafts in 4

    of my no insert , plumber's hosel , moderately deep milled face putters.



    I did the first one for cosmetic reasons , they look really good with a brushed

    satin finish putter head. I found them to feel softer than the TT shafts they

    came with. For install I have tipped them about 1" , to remove the .355" taper

    and counter weighted the butt end with sugar in the last 12" to 14" to get the

    balance to feel right with my 350 to 365 gram heads / 58 gram grips. I'm pretty

    sure the sugar held in place with backing rod contributes to the softer feel.



    I'm seeing alot of the converts to the BGT shafts are using the very soft

    feeling Toulon , Bettinardi , and insert putters , with the stability shaft.

    To add feel / feedback to a putter that had very little. I achieved the same

    thing with installing the Accra FxP300 in my Betti Studio Stock #14 , carbon ,

    deep milled , fit face putter , It felt mushy , with no feed back , and my

    distance control suffered. The. Accra , a heavy , stable tipped , graphite

    shaft , added feel / feedback , and was a completely different putter after

    the swap...sorry for the off topic response...but my opinion as to why the

    Stability shaft is working for some people needed to be shared..YMMV...




    Thanks for the reply. Just received my SS Mid-Slim 2 with the 50g weight today, putter should arrive Monday. I think I'll just extend, put the new grip on, and see how it feels/rolls. Today was really our last good day for getting out playing anyway - 60* today dropping into low 30*s tomorrow image/sad.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':(' />
    WITB:
    Mizuno GT/ST-180 Dr w/ EvenFlow White 6.0 75
    Mizuno GT-180 3wd w/ Tensei CK White 75
    TM UDI 1, 3 w/ KBS C-Taper Lite S
    TM P770 4-PW w/ TT Tour Concept Satin
    TM Milled Grind 52* LB and 58* SB
    Odyssey O-Works 7S Tank
  • golf9596golf9596 Members Posts: 2,076 ✭✭
    waiting on the shaft to install it in a Newport. Shaft should be in by Thursday. very excited to try the new shaft. I'll give a review as soon as possible.
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  • Duffer222Duffer222 Members Posts: 365 ✭✭
    I see a lot of pros have great things to say about Odyssey’s new Stability shaft. I’ll probably try one of those. Barney Adams created some great hybrids and fairways, but I think I’ll trust the #1 putter manufacturer in golf with technology related to strictly putters.

    I’m doubting it will be $200 either.
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    Wedge - Titleist Vokey WedgeWorks 60° w/ Mitsubishi OT 100
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  • FairwayFredFairwayFred Sponsors Posts: 3,983 ✭✭
    edited Jan 7, 2019 7:56pm #316
    The Odyssey shaft is about weight and weight distribution not stability or resisting twisting. It's in the 70g range and the idea is to take weight out of the middle and redistribute more to the head and grip area for balance purposes.





    Other than being multi material they aren't close to the same concept.
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  • MorryMorry Posts: 822 ✭✭


    The Odyssey shaft is about weight and weight distribution not stability or resisting twisting. It's in the 70g range and the idea is to take weight out of the middle and redistribute more to the head and grip area for balance purposes.





    Other than being multi material they aren't close to the same concept.


    Total agreement here

    let's set the record straight

    moving weight around to try to optimize balance is nowhere near what this shaft does - apples and oranges
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  • n_ronesn_rones Members Posts: 500 ✭✭
    Morry wrote:



    The Odyssey shaft is about weight and weight distribution not stability or resisting twisting. It's in the 70g range and the idea is to take weight out of the middle and redistribute more to the head and grip area for balance purposes.





    Other than being multi material they aren't close to the same concept.


    Total agreement here

    let's set the record straight

    moving weight around to try to optimize balance is nowhere near what this shaft does - apples and oranges




    Best Descriptions i have seen here explaining the differences between these shafts.
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    Srixon Z H85 19° Project X HZRDUS Black 6.0 85
    Srixon Z565 4 KBS Tour FLT S
    Srixon Z745 5-PW KBS Tour R+
    Titleist Vokey SM4 50°
    Titleist Vokey SM4 54°
    Taylormade HI-Toe 58°
    Scotty Cameron California Monterey 1.5 Stability Shaft
  • TBD203TBD203 Members Posts: 492 ✭✭
    I have seen a couple starting to pop up on the Web.com tour in the Bahamas this week. Seems to be gaining traction
  • bladehunterbladehunter Today was a good day.... Members Posts: 25,049 ✭✭
    From what I see you can’t just order one. You have to send your putter in for them to install it ? That ain’t happening. I’d love to try one. Buy they need to put it in a box and ship it. Lol.
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  • RedWings1RedWings1 Members Posts: 327 ✭✭
    bladehunter, Club Champion at Hilton Head can do the installation in a day or two.
    TaylorMade M4 Driver 8.5* - Tensei Pro White 60TX (shaft testing)
    TaylorMade M4 3w 15* - Fuji Pro TS 73s
    TaylorMade M1 5w 19* - Fuji Pro TS 83s
    TourEdge CBX20* Hybrid Kuro Kage 70s (testing)
    Mizuno MP18 FliHi 3i - 20.5* CTaper 110s
    Bridgestone J15CB 4-PW (graphite shaft testing for 2019).
    TaylorMadeMG HiToe Wedges 55*, 50* KBS Hi-Rev, 60*ATV,
    Bettinardi KM1 Standard w/ BGT Stability shaft @33.25"
    Toulon Long Island w/ BGT Stability shaft @33.25"
    Srixon Z Star, BStone tourBX, TM TP5x
  • TBD203TBD203 Members Posts: 492 ✭✭
    I had one ordered to a shop that has done work for me in the past. They did the install while I was there. I'm sure you can do the same even if your usual store doesn't have them in stock.
  • TBD203TBD203 Members Posts: 492 ✭✭
    Brandon Grace has one in his putter as well at the Farmers I believe.
  • bladehunterbladehunter Today was a good day.... Members Posts: 25,049 ✭✭
    edited Jan 24, 2019 12:55pm #324
    RedWings1 wrote:


    bladehunter, Club Champion at Hilton Head can do the installation in a day or two.




    Thanks.



    I’m about 4 hours from them though. Just not comfortable sending my 009 away to anyone who isn’t prepared to replace it.

    Besides. A blind monkey could glue a putter shaft on and install a grip. Yet the sighted monkeys at any big chain I’ve dealt with have issues doing so. Lol
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    Titleist Tour Proto MB 3-pw Modus 130X
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    Cameron GSS 009 1.5 tungsten sole weights, sound slot
  • bladehunterbladehunter Today was a good day.... Members Posts: 25,049 ✭✭
    edited Jan 24, 2019 12:58pm #325
    TBD203 wrote:


    I had one ordered to a shop that has done work for me in the past. They did the install while I was there. I'm sure you can do the same even if your usual store doesn't have them in stock.




    Maybe that’s the angle. I’ll just have my shop order it for me. And I’ll pick it up. That works. Good idea ! Thanks.



    Either that or I’ll send my red spider in ( same hosel ) and have it installed in it and then pull it and try it in both. Nobody cares if the spider gets lost.
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    TM Tour 17 M1 14.5* Graphite Design ADDI 8x
    Titleist Tour Proto MB 3-pw Modus 130X
    Ping Glide Forged   54 60 S400
    Cameron GSS 009 1.5 tungsten sole weights, sound slot
  • RedWings1RedWings1 Members Posts: 327 ✭✭
    Good luck bladehunter, After seeing the wok done on my Bettinardi this is a job you don't want rushed!

    Totally understand not wanting your favorite to be lost in the mail.
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    TaylorMade M4 3w 15* - Fuji Pro TS 73s
    TaylorMade M1 5w 19* - Fuji Pro TS 83s
    TourEdge CBX20* Hybrid Kuro Kage 70s (testing)
    Mizuno MP18 FliHi 3i - 20.5* CTaper 110s
    Bridgestone J15CB 4-PW (graphite shaft testing for 2019).
    TaylorMadeMG HiToe Wedges 55*, 50* KBS Hi-Rev, 60*ATV,
    Bettinardi KM1 Standard w/ BGT Stability shaft @33.25"
    Toulon Long Island w/ BGT Stability shaft @33.25"
    Srixon Z Star, BStone tourBX, TM TP5x
  • MaximilianMaximilian Members Posts: 1,336 ✭✭
    TBD203 wrote:


    Brandon Grace has one in his putter as well at the Farmers I believe.


    Is he not playing the Stroke Lab shaft in his putter? I haven't seen him this week, but being a Callaway guy I would just presume he was using it. They look similar.
  • swgolf12swgolf12 Members Posts: 873 ✭✭
    Finally got to try one in the wild. If you're in CT or the North East, Chris Cote's golf shop in Portland CT stocks them and can install while you wait. As others have said, I can't quite put my finger on "what" the difference is, but I can say that I think there's something to it. My putts on the practice green finished closer to the hole than with the same putter without the shaft.
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  • larciellarciel I play for eagle Members Posts: 2,202 ✭✭
    peopls club has it. 15% off today coupon stability



    https://thepeoplesclubs.com/stability.html
  • vmanvman Members Posts: 1,221 ✭✭
    I'm going to wait until Dechambeau puts one in his putter........then I'll know it's legit. image/derisive.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':derisive:' />
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  • Getting one installed by Will this week. $200 for a putter shaft is nothing compared to the amount I’ve spent on drivers. I’ve also yet to read a review saying the stability shaft made their putting worse. Only heard about improvements or no change.
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