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  • Schley Schley Love ya don't tell ya enough! Kingdom of Saudi ArabiaMembers Posts: 1,154 ✭✭
    As I feared, it isn't the 4th or 5th starter that matters in the playoffs it is the relievers. Why the **** the Cubs got rid of Wade Davis is beyond me. Cheap a** move IMO. You can't have enough relief pitching and certainly with inevitable injuries (Marrow, Strop) it decimated their chances. Now they will have a VERY expensive starting rotation if they bring back Hamels and Quintana. Quintana should be a no brainer, **** they gave up Eloy Jimenez for him so they **** well better sign him for 10.5 million. Hamels is going to cost 20 million and I could see them letting him hit free agency as the 20m is a club option. I'd let him hit FA, then sign him for 2 years 30 million or thereabouts. Darvish isn't a sure thing and a year from now, who knows if he even pitches again. Pain free and being able to pitch at the big league level are two different things.



    Wilson is probably gone, but hope they keep Montgomery. They need to sign 2 relief guys, one lefty and one righty. I wouldn't mind them going Miller, Kimbrel!!!! We gotta also move on from Happ, IMO. However, with I HOPE THEY LET GO Addison Russell, Javy has to go to SS and Happ to 2nd in a platoon with Zobrist, who has 1 year left.



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    Got Happ/Bote/Caratini on the bench in that scenario. Relief, relief, relief!!!!
  • knock it closeknock it close Members Posts: 7,945 ✭✭
    This Red Sox bullpen is going to give me an ulcer
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  • Loomis13Loomis13 Members Posts: 182 ✭✭
    The Sox bullpen is the lone reason I don't think they can win it all. However, Go Sox!
  • Loomis13Loomis13 Members Posts: 182 ✭✭
    Impressive performance on both sides of the ball by Boston. Wasn't expecting that against Severino. 1 more to go (A little premature in the 7th). However if the yanks come back I'll glady eat my crow.
  • fillwelixfillwelix Members Posts: 1,226 ✭✭
    Life is meaningless and I hope the Yankees get some pitching next year. Go Dodgers?
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  • padgetpadget Members Posts: 561 ✭✭
    Are we finally ready to bring the DH to the national league?



    I used to be against it as a former player, but I think it was just because I pitched and hit when I played and was old school. Watching a mlb pitcher hit is miserable entertainment. They don't practice, they are awful at it, 90% of the time it's a free out, when you get to the playoffs one team is not built like the other.



    Seriously, the American league team may have their highest paid player as the DH, and the NL will put in a utility player if they make it to the postseason. The Dodgers have the money to keep some extra bats on the roster so that may help in this series, but most teams do not have that depth. Kurt Suzuki would have been the Braves DH, lol (I like that guy but gonna hit 220 with very little power).



    They aren't going to get rid of the AL DH, so may as well bring the National league in the fold with it. Pitchers hitting these days is just a bad product. Double switches, sac bunts, .056 batting averages don't equal the entertainment value of a good offensive hitter being added to the lineup.



    I've played baseball and been around the sport since I was 5. I'm not for changes just for the sake of change, or to make the game easier, but I think this one is overdue as I think it will improve the game.
  • scomac2002scomac2002 Inside the Starters' Hut Members Posts: 5,507 ✭✭
    Dave Roberts is the worst manager in baseball! 109 homeruns on the bench for the first two games. No wonder they lost!



    I used to think that a NL manager had an advantage because he was used to being more strategic with his player substitutions, but this guy is so swept up in his numbers that he's leaving his best hitters on the bench! image/fool.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':fool:' />
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  • tatertottatertot Members Posts: 4,376 ✭✭
    scomac2002 wrote:


    Dave Roberts is the worst manager in baseball! 109 homeruns on the bench for the first two games. No wonder they lost!



    I used to think that a NL manager had an advantage because he was used to being more strategic with his player substitutions, but this guy is so swept up in his numbers that he's leaving his best hitters on the bench! image/fool.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':fool:' />




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    scomac2002 wrote:


    Dave Roberts is the worst manager in baseball! 109 homeruns on the bench for the first two games. No wonder they lost!



    I used to think that a NL manager had an advantage because he was used to being more strategic with his player substitutions, but this guy is so swept up in his numbers that he's leaving his best hitters on the bench! image/fool.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':fool:' />




    Counsel made him look foolish when he started Miley and then immediately lifted him.



    So obsessed with the righty-lefty stuff he had a much weaker first baseman in Friese. Bellinger likely catchs Bett’s foul pop up (first batter of first game); and the complexion changes completely. Sox likely don’t score two right out if the gate.
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  • padgetpadget Members Posts: 561 ✭✭
    edited Oct 27, 2018 #131

    scomac2002 wrote:


    Dave Roberts is the worst manager in baseball! 109 homeruns on the bench for the first two games. No wonder they lost!



    I used to think that a NL manager had an advantage because he was used to being more strategic with his player substitutions, but this guy is so swept up in his numbers that he's leaving his best hitters on the bench! image/fool.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':fool:' />




    Counsel made him look foolish when he started Miley and then immediately lifted him.



    So obsessed with the righty-lefty stuff he had a much weaker first baseman in Friese. Bellinger likely catchs Bett’s foul pop up (first batter of first game); and the complexion changes completely. Sox likely don’t score two right out if the gate.




    The Dodgers won that game lol. Over managing on both sides but sometimes those calls come from the top. I don't love Roberts but he has gelled a team full of big time players, and he handles the staff pretty well. How you handle your pitching staff makes more of a difference I think, and both of these guys are pretty good with that.



    Cora bunting with 2 on and nobody out last night is overmanaging and analytics actually says it works out less than hitting away in that situation but managers still do it all the time. You've got major leaguers, let them hit. Only time to bunt is to squeeze or for a base hit, drives me crazy to see it all levels.



    Still a great game last night, can't believe I stayed up for the whole thing being on the east coast, definitely dragging today lol. Wonder what kind of effect a 19 inning game has on the series. Feels like it gave the dodgers momentum but I guess we will find out tonight.
  • Qqq123xxQqq123xx I wake up take a few steps and am in a haze the rest of the day. Members Posts: 6,209 ✭✭
    padget wrote:


    scomac2002 wrote:


    Dave Roberts is the worst manager in baseball! 109 homeruns on the bench for the first two games. No wonder they lost!



    I used to think that a NL manager had an advantage because he was used to being more strategic with his player substitutions, but this guy is so swept up in his numbers that he's leaving his best hitters on the bench! image/fool.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':fool:' />




    Counsel made him look foolish when he started Miley and then immediately lifted him.



    So obsessed with the righty-lefty stuff he had a much weaker first baseman in Friese. Bellinger likely catchs Bett's foul pop up (first batter of first game); and the complexion changes completely. Sox likely don't score two right out if the gate.




    The Dodgers won that game lol. Over managing on both sides but sometimes those calls come from the top. I don't love Roberts but he has gelled a team full of big time players, and he handles the staff pretty well. How you handle your pitching staff makes more of a difference I think, and both of these guys are pretty good with that.



    Cora bunting with 2 on and nobody out last night is overmanaging and analytics actually says it works out less than hitting away in that situation but managers still do it all the time. You've got major leaguers, let them hit. Only time to bunt is to squeeze or for a base hit, drives me crazy to see it all levels.



    Still a great game last night, can't believe I stayed up for the whole thing being on the east coast, definitely dragging today lol. Wonder what kind of effect a 19 inning game has on the series. Feels like it gave the dodgers momentum but I guess we will find out tonight.
    I agree. I was like WTF bunting serious. The pitcher was shaky at best and you bunt? Then makes a great play at third and gets supercharged. What a game though. I melted into my recliner.
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    edited Oct 27, 2018 #133
    padget wrote:


    scomac2002 wrote:


    Dave Roberts is the worst manager in baseball! 109 homeruns on the bench for the first two games. No wonder they lost!



    I used to think that a NL manager had an advantage because he was used to being more strategic with his player substitutions, but this guy is so swept up in his numbers that he's leaving his best hitters on the bench! image/fool.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':fool:' />




    Counsel made him look foolish when he started Miley and then immediately lifted him.



    So obsessed with the righty-lefty stuff he had a much weaker first baseman in Friese. Bellinger likely catchs Bett’s foul pop up (first batter of first game); and the complexion changes completely. Sox likely don’t score two right out if the gate.




    The Dodgers won that game lol. Over managing on both sides but sometimes those calls come from the top. I don't love Roberts but he has gelled a team full of big time players, and he handles the staff pretty well. How you handle your pitching staff makes more of a difference I think, and both of these guys are pretty good with that.



    Cora bunting with 2 on and nobody out last night is overmanaging and analytics actually says it works out less than hitting away in that situation but managers still do it all the time. You've got major leaguers, let them hit. Only time to bunt is to squeeze or for a base hit, drives me crazy to see it all levels.



    Still a great game last night, can't believe I stayed up for the whole thing being on the east coast, definitely dragging today lol. Wonder what kind of effect a 19 inning game has on the series. Feels like it gave the dodgers momentum but I guess we will find out tonight.




    I’ll have to respectfully disagree that he’s managed the pitching staff well. I’d say he’s grossly mismanaged the staff as well as the lineup day to day. You can’t sitt your best players in half (or more) of the WS games. Or pull starters that are still pitching well.



    Barring an extreme comeback I don’t expect him back next year.
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  • scomac2002scomac2002 Inside the Starters' Hut Members Posts: 5,507 ✭✭
    This isn't even close. You've got one guy making all the right moves at all the right times while the other guy is putting on a clinic of what not to do... image/nono.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':nono:' />
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  • tatertottatertot Members Posts: 4,376 ✭✭
    edited Oct 29, 2018 #135
    I like Dave Roberts, and I think the Red Sox win the Series regardless of who is managing the Dodgers ... But this managerial match-up looked like a little league dad vs. Joe Torre ... And Joey Cora ain't Joe Torre.
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  • Loomis13Loomis13 Members Posts: 182 ✭✭
    I think it was funny how the red sox were probably the least talked about team coming into the playoffs (by me included) and they got though the postseason pretty easily. Everyone seemed to forget how good they were in the regular season. Sure the bullpen issues were very real, but Joe Kelly stepped up big time. I also wasn't prepared for starters to be used like they were. overall a very impressive October from the Red Sox.
  • fillwelixfillwelix Members Posts: 1,226 ✭✭
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    I think it was funny how the red sox were probably the least talked about team coming into the playoffs (by me included) and they got though the postseason pretty easily. Everyone seemed to forget how good they were in the regular season. Sure the bullpen issues were very real, but Joe Kelly stepped up big time. I also wasn't prepared for starters to be used like they were. overall a very impressive October from the Red Sox.




    What do you mean least talked about? Sure the brewers had a great run but the Red Sox had the best record in baseball, rookie manager, Mookie Betts, JD Martinez, Sale, etc are some of the most talked about players in the game currently
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    tatertot wrote:


    I like Dave Roberts, and I think the Red Sox win the Series regardless of who is managing the Dodgers ... But this managerial match-up looked like a little league dad vs. Joe Torre ... And Joey Cora ain't Joe Torre.




    True. In Torre's first season as a manager, his Mets finished in last place in the NL East.
  • ImpImp Fueled Members Posts: 5,951 ✭✭
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    Loomis13 wrote:


    I think it was funny how the red sox were probably the least talked about team coming into the playoffs (by me included) and they got though the postseason pretty easily. Everyone seemed to forget how good they were in the regular season. Sure the bullpen issues were very real, but Joe Kelly stepped up big time. I also wasn't prepared for starters to be used like they were. overall a very impressive October from the Red Sox.
    Depends on the market, and I travel a lot... but outside of New England when I listen to local radio or the national media outlets, they talk more about the team playing the Sox, than the Sox themselves. Because "everyone knows about the Sox".



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    Imp wrote:

    Loomis13 wrote:


    I think it was funny how the red sox were probably the least talked about team coming into the playoffs (by me included) and they got though the postseason pretty easily. Everyone seemed to forget how good they were in the regular season. Sure the bullpen issues were very real, but Joe Kelly stepped up big time. I also wasn't prepared for starters to be used like they were. overall a very impressive October from the Red Sox.
    Depends on the market, and I travel a lot... but outside of New England when I listen to local radio or the national media outlets, they talk more about the team playing the Sox, than the Sox themselves. Because "everyone knows about the Sox".



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    Outside of New England I don't think people talk about baseball period anymore.
  • Loomis13Loomis13 Members Posts: 182 ✭✭
    fillwelix wrote:

    Loomis13 wrote:


    I think it was funny how the red sox were probably the least talked about team coming into the playoffs (by me included) and they got though the postseason pretty easily. Everyone seemed to forget how good they were in the regular season. Sure the bullpen issues were very real, but Joe Kelly stepped up big time. I also wasn't prepared for starters to be used like they were. overall a very impressive October from the Red Sox.




    What do you mean least talked about? Sure the brewers had a great run but the Red Sox had the best record in baseball, rookie manager, Mookie Betts, JD Martinez, Sale, etc are some of the most talked about players in the game currently




    Well when listening to most of the predictions on ESPN and other sources, it seemed like Astros and Indians were the favorites with the Yankees being a contender if their bats got hot. I guess I meant talked about in terms of coming out of the AL. Yeah, the Red Sox and there players/manager were talked about a lot during the regular season. They had a chance to have the MVP and Cy Young winners if Sale stays healthy.





    Chief, sadly thats pretty true. Football, basketball, and soccer have slowly been taking kids away from baseball and that means parents too. However, too some with me included, very little compares to Oct. Baseball when it rolls around.
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    Loomis13 wrote:


    I think it was funny how the red sox were probably the least talked about team coming into the playoffs (by me included) and they got though the postseason pretty easily. Everyone seemed to forget how good they were in the regular season. Sure the bullpen issues were very real, but Joe Kelly stepped up big time. I also wasn't prepared for starters to be used like they were. overall a very impressive October from the Red Sox.




    My sentimental favorite to win the 2018 WS was the Chicago Cubs. While they had a chance and on paper could have made it, the reality is that pitching was too thin, especially after Lester and Hamels. Relief pitching was too thin and several pitchers were unreliable. That said, this wasn't the Cubs year.



    Out of the gates the BoSox looked formidable. They looked terrific in Spring Training and were so dominant during the regular season. To me, it was almost a foregone conclusion they were going to win the WS with the Brewers throwing a possible **** wrench in the race to win the WS. The Brewers were peaking in September and October and nearly pulled it off. However, they were cooling off a bit during the NLDS and had they made it to the WS the Red Sox would still have been dominant.



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  • tatertottatertot Members Posts: 4,376 ✭✭
    raynorfan1 wrote:

    tatertot wrote:


    I like Dave Roberts, and I think the Red Sox win the Series regardless of who is managing the Dodgers ... But this managerial match-up looked like a little league dad vs. Joe Torre ... And Joey Cora ain't Joe Torre.




    True. In Torre's first season as a manager, his Mets finished in last place in the NL East.




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  • fillwelixfillwelix Members Posts: 1,226 ✭✭
    Loomis & Chief are right, baseball isn't necessarily what I'd call "dying", but kids definitely aren't as into it as they used to be. It's tough when you see teams just embracing the tank though, nobody wants to go to a game to watch your team stink it up. New England always goes nuts about the BoSox, New York is New York.



    On the bright side it does look like baseball is starting to do more to engage fans. Anybody been to the new Braves stadium in Atlanta? That place is electric sometimes and the whole campus they have around the stadium has some great restaurants and stuff for kids to do. Houston's another, their fanbase is still growing after 2017.



    Not to mention social media is huge in getting the fans connected to the players, hearing from them in their day to day life and realizing that they're actual people and not some prophetic god-man.



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