Project X T1100 Even Flow White

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  • gioguy21gioguy21 NJMembers Posts: 7,451 ✭✭
    mrekalic wrote:
    gioguy21 wrote:

    mrekalic wrote:


    What other shaft is comparable spec but with higher ball speed? Tensei pro white?




    unless you're swinging drastically different club to club - your ballspeed numbers are going to almost always be in the same arena - assuming your clubface strike is similar with both shafts.



    what at you looking to gain exactly?




    My SS is pretty good (113-115 on smooth swings), so distance isn't really a huge issue. I want ultra low spin and would ideally like something that may help a bit with launch (I have a negative angle of attack unfortunately lol)



    I like the EF T1100 big time in terms of distance and feel, they just didn't have a Tensei Pro White or Orange in the fitting cart for comparison, so wanted to check with you if they are in the same ball park...i hear the orange has ball speed gains against most shaft



    thoughts? thanks in advance
    U could go pro white but, if u have an aggressive transition and hit down on it, there isnt a shaft out there that's going to remedy the swing faults. Closer u can get to even or positive AOA will give u much more options with regards to spin disparity and optimum launch.



    I mean, for ultra low spin shafts, your going to launch it crazy low and not get it airborne OR it will accentuate your issues and cause more spin.

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  • jlebeane13jlebeane13 Members Posts: 334 ✭✭
    edited Sep 10, 2018 #303
    gioguy21 wrote:

    mrekalic wrote:
    gioguy21 wrote:

    mrekalic wrote:


    What other shaft is comparable spec but with higher ball speed? Tensei pro white?




    unless you're swinging drastically different club to club - your ballspeed numbers are going to almost always be in the same arena - assuming your clubface strike is similar with both shafts.



    what at you looking to gain exactly?




    My SS is pretty good (113-115 on smooth swings), so distance isn't really a huge issue. I want ultra low spin and would ideally like something that may help a bit with launch (I have a negative angle of attack unfortunately lol)



    I like the EF T1100 big time in terms of distance and feel, they just didn't have a Tensei Pro White or Orange in the fitting cart for comparison, so wanted to check with you if they are in the same ball park...i hear the orange has ball speed gains against most shaft



    thoughts? thanks in advance
    U could go pro white but, if u have an aggressive transition and hit down on it, there isnt a shaft out there that's going to remedy the swing faults. Closer u can get to even or positive AOA will give u much more options with regards to spin disparity and optimum launch.



    I mean, for ultra low spin shafts, your going to launch it crazy low and not get it airborne OR it will accentuate your issues and cause more spin.


    I'm going to have to agree because I'm in the same boat as you. Negative AOA. I've worked so hard on hitting down and trying to compress the ball with my irons (I use to be a picker) that it carried over into my driver. Theres not a shaft in the world that will fix that issue for you. I've had to move the ball to the outside of my left foot to make sure I catch it on the way up. Theres also a drill I use with an empty ball sleeve to make sure I'm hitting up.

    If you want to reduce spin try the HZRDUS T1100 but with it being a swing issue (not going to say fault) theres no shaft or club that will change that.

    The EFW T1100 will reduce some spin for you. I tested it. It did for me, but not a lot. It's not a cure. You have to make swing changes.
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  • mwink822mwink822 Members Posts: 2,577 ✭✭
    Any word when the HC will be available for retail purchase?
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  • 03trdblack03trdblack ClubWRX Posts: 1,850 ClubWRX
    mwink822 wrote:


    Any word when the HC will be available for retail purchase?




    October according to their website.
  • pdaeropdaero Lefty Boomers Posts: 6,021 ✭✭
    gioguy21 wrote:

    mrekalic wrote:
    gioguy21 wrote:

    mrekalic wrote:


    What other shaft is comparable spec but with higher ball speed? Tensei pro white?




    unless you're swinging drastically different club to club - your ballspeed numbers are going to almost always be in the same arena - assuming your clubface strike is similar with both shafts.



    what at you looking to gain exactly?




    My SS is pretty good (113-115 on smooth swings), so distance isn't really a huge issue. I want ultra low spin and would ideally like something that may help a bit with launch (I have a negative angle of attack unfortunately lol)



    I like the EF T1100 big time in terms of distance and feel, they just didn't have a Tensei Pro White or Orange in the fitting cart for comparison, so wanted to check with you if they are in the same ball park...i hear the orange has ball speed gains against most shaft



    thoughts? thanks in advance
    U could go pro white but, if u have an aggressive transition and hit down on it, there isnt a shaft out there that's going to remedy the swing faults. Closer u can get to even or positive AOA will give u much more options with regards to spin disparity and optimum launch.



    I mean, for ultra low spin shafts, your going to launch it crazy low and not get it airborne OR it will accentuate your issues and cause more spin.




    I would give an Aldila X-Torsion Copper 60 or 70 TX a try - phenomenal shaft and could help you with what you're looking for. I'm a fairly neutral striker but get a higher launch, low spin performance from it.
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  • ago33ago33 Members Posts: 2,155 ✭✭
    edited Sep 25, 2018 #307
    gioguy21 wrote:

    mrekalic wrote:
    gioguy21 wrote:

    mrekalic wrote:


    What other shaft is comparable spec but with higher ball speed? Tensei pro white?




    unless you're swinging drastically different club to club - your ballspeed numbers are going to almost always be in the same arena - assuming your clubface strike is similar with both shafts.



    what at you looking to gain exactly?




    My SS is pretty good (113-115 on smooth swings), so distance isn't really a huge issue. I want ultra low spin and would ideally like something that may help a bit with launch (I have a negative angle of attack unfortunately lol)



    I like the EF T1100 big time in terms of distance and feel, they just didn't have a Tensei Pro White or Orange in the fitting cart for comparison, so wanted to check with you if they are in the same ball park...i hear the orange has ball speed gains against most shaft



    thoughts? thanks in advance
    U could go pro white but, if u have an aggressive transition and hit down on it, there isnt a shaft out there that's going to remedy the swing faults. Closer u can get to even or positive AOA will give u much more options with regards to spin disparity and optimum launch.



    I mean, for ultra low spin shafts, your going to launch it crazy low and not get it airborne OR it will accentuate your issues and cause more spin.




    Fubuki J is the only shaft I can think of



    Back to the t1100 EV. I hit it in the ts2 and hated it. Played nothing even close to the HZRDUS T1100 HC. The whole shaft felt loose and had bad feel

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  • trhodetrhode Fitter / Builder Members Posts: 1,963 ✭✭
    ago33 wrote:
    gioguy21 wrote:

    mrekalic wrote:
    gioguy21 wrote:

    mrekalic wrote:


    What other shaft is comparable spec but with higher ball speed? Tensei pro white?




    unless you're swinging drastically different club to club - your ballspeed numbers are going to almost always be in the same arena - assuming your clubface strike is similar with both shafts.



    what at you looking to gain exactly?




    My SS is pretty good (113-115 on smooth swings), so distance isn't really a huge issue. I want ultra low spin and would ideally like something that may help a bit with launch (I have a negative angle of attack unfortunately lol)



    I like the EF T1100 big time in terms of distance and feel, they just didn't have a Tensei Pro White or Orange in the fitting cart for comparison, so wanted to check with you if they are in the same ball park...i hear the orange has ball speed gains against most shaft



    thoughts? thanks in advance
    U could go pro white but, if u have an aggressive transition and hit down on it, there isnt a shaft out there that's going to remedy the swing faults. Closer u can get to even or positive AOA will give u much more options with regards to spin disparity and optimum launch.



    I mean, for ultra low spin shafts, your going to launch it crazy low and not get it airborne OR it will accentuate your issues and cause more spin.




    Fubuki J is the only shaft I can think of



    Back to the t1100 EV. I hit it in the ts2 and hated it. Played nothing even close to the HZRDUS T1100 HC. The whole shaft felt loose and had bad feel




    Why would you think it will feel like the Hzrdus T1100?
  • PixlPutterman PixlPutterman Look At My Lefty J33R(hey I can wish) Members Posts: 8,249 ✭✭
    Yeah, Evenflow and Hzrdus are very different profiles made for very different golfers.
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  • mister2coolmister2cool Members Posts: 3,713 ✭✭
    ago33 wrote:


    Back to the t1100 EV. I hit it in the ts2 and hated it. Played nothing even close to the HZRDUS T1100 HC. The whole shaft felt loose and had bad feel




    EF profile is nothing like HZRDUS so if you expected similar feel, you were definitely going to be disappointed. We discussed this a lot earlier in the thread, the entire EF line gives you a loose\soft feel comparing to HZRDUS but they definitely do not play loose. Those of us who love the shafts in this line is because the slightly looser feel give them such smooth feeling from loading all the way through impact.

    HZRDUS T1100 is a great shaft too so absolutely nothing wrong with sticking to what you like.
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  • MGFluFanMGFluFan Members Posts: 22 ✭✭
    I was fitted into them last week with the new Titleist TS3. Spin numbers went from 3k to 1600-1800. Phenomenal feel and not too boardy. It’s tip stiff with a smooth feel. You won’t have to stand on it to get it to work. I was able to get 153 ball speed with mid launch and great spin numbers. Feel - Spin - Launch - Distance - all the boxes got checked for me.
  • FlyOverFlyOver SoCalMembers Posts: 394 ✭✭

    liveagua wrote:

    liveagua wrote:


    After knowing how much the "handcrafters" drink and smoke, it's a crapshoot with the quality. Machines are always going to be more consistent. Period.




    speaking out your @ss or talking from experience? Cause my time meeting the people that work in the room where the handcrafted shafts are rolled was a completely different group of people you speak horribly about!
    I have 20+ years of building golf clubs and 10+ fitting, I never speak out of my a**. I meant no disparaging of them, just giving proper context. If I were disparaging them, I would simply offer a comparison between TT and it's competitors, which wouldn't do any favors to TT.



    The word "handcrafted" infers that these shafts are being made like the interior of a Rolls Royce, which couldn't be further from the truth. Human intervention with materials inherently causes inconsistency, this isn't difficult to understand. An automated, robotic process will produce much more consistent results than a human ever will. The fact that anyone would pay a premium for a line of shafts that inherently have more inconsistency, baffles me.




    So are you saying Rolls Royce are inferior comparing to a Ford? The people who pays up for RR, Bentley baffles you too?




    Another example: Is a hand built AMG engine inferior to a stock mercedes engine? I think not!
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  • pdaeropdaero Lefty Boomers Posts: 6,021 ✭✭
    edited Oct 8, 2018 #313
    FlyOver wrote:


    liveagua wrote:

    liveagua wrote:


    After knowing how much the "handcrafters" drink and smoke, it's a crapshoot with the quality. Machines are always going to be more consistent. Period.




    speaking out your @ss or talking from experience? Cause my time meeting the people that work in the room where the handcrafted shafts are rolled was a completely different group of people you speak horribly about!
    I have 20+ years of building golf clubs and 10+ fitting, I never speak out of my a**. I meant no disparaging of them, just giving proper context. If I were disparaging them, I would simply offer a comparison between TT and it's competitors, which wouldn't do any favors to TT.



    The word "handcrafted" infers that these shafts are being made like the interior of a Rolls Royce, which couldn't be further from the truth. Human intervention with materials inherently causes inconsistency, this isn't difficult to understand. An automated, robotic process will produce much more consistent results than a human ever will. The fact that anyone would pay a premium for a line of shafts that inherently have more inconsistency, baffles me.




    So are you saying Rolls Royce are inferior comparing to a Ford? The people who pays up for RR, Bentley baffles you too?




    Another example: Is a hand built AMG engine inferior to a stock mercedes engine? I think not!




    I understand the car references here, but I think it's much simpler than a hand-built AMG engine versus the stock Mercedes engine. Both shafts are made to the EXACT SAME SPECIFICATION - the only difference is that the Handcrafted version is just that, handcrafted. The materials *might* be placed in a *slightly* more consistent way, but it's the exact same shaft. Many people have commented that they could not tell a difference between the two.



    Ultimately, to most of us golfers who don't consider ourselves a +3 handicap or better, the chances of us noticing a difference is slim to none.
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  • mister2coolmister2cool Members Posts: 3,713 ✭✭
    pdaero wrote:


    ...
    liveagua wrote:

    liveagua wrote:


    After knowing how much the "handcrafters" drink and smoke, it's a crapshoot with the quality. Machines are always going to be more consistent. Period.




    speaking out your @ss or talking from experience? Cause my time meeting the people that work in the room where the handcrafted shafts are rolled was a completely different group of people you speak horribly about!
    I have 20+ years of building golf clubs and 10+ fitting, I never speak out of my a**. I meant no disparaging of them, just giving proper context. If I were disparaging them, I would simply offer a comparison between TT and it's competitors, which wouldn't do any favors to TT.



    The word "handcrafted" infers that these shafts are being made like the interior of a Rolls Royce, which couldn't be further from the truth. Human intervention with materials inherently causes inconsistency, this isn't difficult to understand. An automated, robotic process will produce much more consistent results than a human ever will. The fact that anyone would pay a premium for a line of shafts that inherently have more inconsistency, baffles me.


    ...

    I understand the car references here, but I think it's much simpler than a hand-built AMG engine versus the stock Mercedes engine. Both shafts are made to the EXACT SAME SPECIFICATION - the only difference is that the Handcrafted version is just that, handcrafted. The materials *might* be placed in a *slightly* more consistent way, but it's the exact same shaft. Many people have commented that they could not tell a difference between the two.



    Ultimately, to most of us golfers who don't consider ourselves a +3 handicap or better, the chances of us noticing a difference is slim to none.




    Agree 100%. However, Liveagua was trying to convince us something very different, that handcrafted is actually not as good as machine made.
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  • kcowgolfkcowgolf kcowgolf Members Posts: 302 ✭✭
    Does anyone know where or if you can buy a HC Evenflow White? I received an email saying the Evenflow White T1100 is now available but it didn't say anything about the HC versison. I have played both the HC Hzdrus Black and the HC Evenflow Black. The EF Black feels better but spins a bit too much, hoping the White might fit the bill.
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  • swanry30swanry30 Lights Out ClubWRX Posts: 4,532 ✭✭
    kcowgolf wrote:


    Does anyone know where or if you can buy a HC Evenflow White? I received an email saying the Evenflow White T1100 is now available but it didn't say anything about the HC versison. I have played both the HC Hzdrus Black and the HC Evenflow Black. The EF Black feels better but spins a bit too much, hoping the White might fit the bill.




    it sounds like the EFT1100 will be right up your alley. there are a few people on the board here that you might look to for the HC or you can contact Titleist. they have offered other HC versions and might have this off catalog.
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  • matgyvermatgyver Members Posts: 50
    This and the smoke will not be offered in handcrafted. Also, the handcrafted plant is moving to China.
  • TrueTemperTrueTemper Sponsors Posts: 1,238 ✭✭
    Due the HandCrafted volume having out grown our capacity and needing to expand our R&D capabilities in our San Diego facility we did have to shutdown the HandCrafted line here. We did transfer the process to our facility in China and are continuing to make the current HandCrafted product available but with capacity still being an issue in that facility the decision was made not to add EF White and Smoke to the HC line. We did make some early tour parts here in San Diego before that decision was made.



    Thanks-

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  • SPY ZINGERSPY ZINGER Members Posts: 3,313 ✭✭
    Hey TT, there are some issues with the Even Flow Blue breaking at the kick point of the shaft. Can you address that or is it an already known issue with that product? Thank you!
  • TPG1971TPG1971 Don't Get Rolled Members Posts: 959 ✭✭
    SPY ZINGER wrote:


    Hey TT, there are some issues with the Even Flow Blue breaking at the kick point of the shaft. Can you address that or is it an already known issue with that product? Thank you!




    Yes, and please send jgard320 a brand new unreleased prototype tour shaft to replace the one that broke, because he's really concerned about safety issues....
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  • mister2coolmister2cool Members Posts: 3,713 ✭✭
    TPG1971 wrote:

    SPY ZINGER wrote:


    Hey TT, there are some issues with the Even Flow Blue breaking at the kick point of the shaft. Can you address that or is it an already known issue with that product? Thank you!




    Yes, and please send jgard320 a brand new unreleased prototype tour shaft to replace the one that broke, because he's really concerned about safety issues....




    What did I miss?
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  • jgard320jgard320 ClubWRX Posts: 283 ClubWRX
    edited Oct 10, 2018 #322
    TPG1971 wrote:

    SPY ZINGER wrote:


    Hey TT, there are some issues with the Even Flow Blue breaking at the kick point of the shaft. Can you address that or is it an already known issue with that product? Thank you!




    Yes, and please send jgard320 a brand new unreleased prototype tour shaft to replace the one that broke, because he's really concerned about safety issues....




    Are you feeling better about yourself now? Sorry that things are going so badly for you that you have to lash out at someone you've never spoken to.
  • jgard320jgard320 ClubWRX Posts: 283 ClubWRX

    TPG1971 wrote:

    SPY ZINGER wrote:


    Hey TT, there are some issues with the Even Flow Blue breaking at the kick point of the shaft. Can you address that or is it an already known issue with that product? Thank you!




    Yes, and please send jgard320 a brand new unreleased prototype tour shaft to replace the one that broke, because he's really concerned about safety issues....




    What did I miss?




    Just a post that is sharing a negative customer service experience from Project X and an internet tough guy trying to stir an issue out of nothing.
  • stachoajstachoaj Cincinnati, OHMembers Posts: 307 ✭✭
    TrueTemper wrote:


    Due the HandCrafted volume having out grown our capacity and needing to expand our R&D capabilities in our San Diego facility we did have to shutdown the HandCrafted line here. We did transfer the process to our facility in China and are continuing to make the current HandCrafted product available but with capacity still being an issue in that facility the decision was made not to add EF White and Smoke to the HC line. We did make some early tour parts here in San Diego before that decision was made.



    Thanks-

    DB




    This is disappointing. Knowing that the shaft I was buying was being handmade in the USA was one of the major factors of why I purchased from you guys.
  • WarrickWarrick ClubWRX Posts: 10,332 ClubWRX
    Anyone playing these? Any more recent feedback?



    I just picked up a 75 and tested in an Epic SZ 3+, was very happy with the results. I went ahead and snagged a 65 for the driver to try this morning.



    still a low/low, but maybe a bit softer tip than the PO?



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  • DrRay81DrRay81 ClubWRX Posts: 35 ClubWRX
    i'm gaming a ts3 10.5 with an EF 75g 6.5 came from a g400 lst with ad-di. even flow is very smooth, doesn't feel boardy at all. very solid stable shaft. AOA is usually 0-3* swingspeed(108-112) for me is borderline going to an stiff but i sprayed it a little and didn't see any yardage gain so went with an X. the 6x i couldn't stay smooth enough with. currently testing against the AD-IZ and tour spec atmos blue. will report back with numbers off my gc2
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    I have a 65 6.5 coming to test in my M3. I really liked the feel of it when I was fitted for a TS2. The only thing I wish is that I could’ve hit the 75 6.5 when I was fitted. They didn’t have any at driver length since it was before they officially launched
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  • PixlPutterman PixlPutterman Look At My Lefty J33R(hey I can wish) Members Posts: 8,249 ✭✭
    I went back to my HZ yellow, just seemed to fit me better.
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    Mizuno MP Fli Hi 23° - C Taper 120
    Wilson Staff FG62 - S300
    Cobra Tour Trusty 52°/56°/62°- S300
    Mizuno TP Mills TP7 
    RZN Platinum
  • WarrickWarrick ClubWRX Posts: 10,332 ClubWRX
    I actually found a cheap new pull from a member (65g) today, that I am going to try in the driver.



    I have been wanting to try and drop back down to stock length, and have extra weighting if needed.
    TM Mini 11.5 Smoke 70
    F9 Tour 3w\13.5 - Smoke 70
    F9 Tour 5w\17.5- Smoke 70
    Epic hybrid - 22* Pro White 90
    Mizuno 919 combo 5-P - PX LZ 6.0
    Mizuno T7 - 48-53-58 - PX LZ 6.5
    Custom V-Line Fang
    TM TP5X
  • jdsuownerjdsuowner Members Posts: 230 ✭✭
    Does anyone know if the EvenFlow T1100 driver shafts coming with the Titleist drivers are being tipped from factory by default without requests to do so? Anyone have a the tip to graphics measurement for these handy for us? Thx
  • leomessi10leomessi10 Members Posts: 529 ✭✭
    Is the Evenflow T1100 counterbalanced like the Hzrdus T1100?
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