Good Player vs. Ok Player

golfer929golfer929 Members Posts: 231 ✭✭
In your mind, what specific shot or thought process separates a good player vs. an okay player.



In other words, what specific shot makes you think “Man, this guy/girl can play!”



IMO, I think a good indicator is the ability to hit a good lob shot or hit a flighted iron shot in the wind
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  • Fade to BlackFade to Black Members Posts: 3,776 ✭✭
    GIR
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  • llamontllamont Members Posts: 1,823 ✭✭
    ^^^GIR^^^ and ability to get up and down
    I love golf
  • dlygrissedlygrisse Members Posts: 13,132 ✭✭
    score/handicap.

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  • golfer929golfer929 Members Posts: 231 ✭✭
    dlygrisse wrote:


    score/handicap.




    What score/handicap do you look for?
  • dlygrissedlygrisse Members Posts: 13,132 ✭✭
    How do you measure yourself against other golfers?



    By height........

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  • Hateto3PuttHateto3Putt Smoking Makes You Look Cool! Members Posts: 6,277 ✭✭
    Not attempting a fruitless hero shot.
  • dlygrissedlygrisse Members Posts: 13,132 ✭✭
    golfer929 wrote:

    dlygrisse wrote:


    score/handicap.




    What score/handicap do you look for?




    Depends...

    Great

    Good

    Okay

    Average

    Sucky

    Crappy

    Duffer?

    Beginner

    Pro

    PGA pro

    Mini tour pro

    it's all relative.



    I don't think of things in terms of Good vs. Okay...what does it matter?..I ask..what is your handicap? thats all I need to know. If they don't have one I ask "what is your best score this year?" We then negotiate bets and play golf.

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  • dlygrissedlygrisse Members Posts: 13,132 ✭✭


    GIR
    What if they can't putt? That's almost 1/2 the game.

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  • sprcoopsprcoop Tucson, AZMembers Posts: 808 ✭✭
    Consistent center strike combined with decent direction control. The center strike pretty much guarantees distance control. Add direction control and you got a playa.



    Us hackers are all over the club face so distance is a crap shoot. I get a kick out of my buddies watch showing a 5 yard difference to the pin from my cell phone and him thinking that makes one bit of friggin' difference to us.

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  • dlygrissedlygrisse Members Posts: 13,132 ✭✭
    llamont wrote:


    ^^^GIR^^^ and ability to get up and down
    what if you are good at one and not the other?

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  • llamontllamont Members Posts: 1,823 ✭✭
    dlygrisse wrote:

    llamont wrote:


    ^^^GIR^^^ and ability to get up and down
    what if you are good at one and not the other?




    Then I guess that could be a viable difference between “good” and “okay...”
    I love golf
  • MilkyButterCutsMilkyButterCuts Members Posts: 848 ✭✭
    1) Consistency.

    2) How bad is your bad.
  • HiSpeed48HiSpeed48 Members Posts: 2,108 ✭✭
    edited May 14, 2018 #14
    Shape and trajectory control of their approach shots



    Edit: or a very repeatable stock shot. Since there are many who choose not to change their shape/trajectory.
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  • Nard_SNard_S Members Posts: 3,220 ✭✭
    Great directional control on full swings.

    Great distance control on short game.

    Unyielding, consistent rhythm.

    A mistake costs a stroke and that's it.
  • Fade to BlackFade to Black Members Posts: 3,776 ✭✭
    dlygrisse wrote:



    GIR
    What if they can't putt? That's almost 1/2 the game.


    True. But I've not come across too many players who are hitting lots of GIR that can't putt.
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  • dlygrissedlygrisse Members Posts: 13,132 ✭✭
    The correct answer is still your score.





    different ways to get it done.

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  • dlygrissedlygrisse Members Posts: 13,132 ✭✭

    dlygrisse wrote:



    GIR
    What if they can't putt? That's almost 1/2 the game.


    True. But I've not come across too many players who are hitting lots of GIR that can't putt.




    https://www.golfdigest.com/story/players-championship-2018-jason-dufners-sunday-18th-hole-three-putt-cost-him-gulp-dollar726000



    Yes, he is a great player, but relative to the tour he is just okay....if he could putt he would be top 5.

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  • TLUBulldogGolfTLUBulldogGolf Sasquatch Houston, TXMembers Posts: 2,419 ✭✭
    I think you need to define it more than good vs. ok. To me good is low single digit but to others it might be different. I would say an ok player can hit greens, a good player can control what part of the green they hit.
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  • heavy_hitterheavy_hitter Members Posts: 3,067 ✭✭


    I think you need to define it more than good vs. ok. To me good is low single digit but to others it might be different. I would say an ok player can hit greens, a good player can control what part of the green they hit.




    I agree that you have to define good vs. ok.
  • gioguy21gioguy21 NJMembers Posts: 7,451 ✭✭
    to me - it comes down to scrambling (including bunker play), FIRs and GIRs. putting is iffy at times for even the best - but hitting 50% fairways or more, or over 50% of greens and getting up and down at least 50% of the time makes you a good golfer in my eyes.

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  • RH2RH2 Members Posts: 113 ✭✭
    GIR and ability to get up and down from a variety of locations are 2 decent indicators
  • chippa13chippa13 Members Posts: 2,251 ✭✭
    A good player has already thought the hole from pin placement back to determine what part of the fairway he is aiming for. An OK player is aiming for the fairway.
  • elwhippyelwhippy Members Posts: 3,121 ✭✭
    The ability to hit it badly and score to, or even under their handicap. And the amount of close approaches they hit.
  • SixtySomePingSixtySomePing Members Posts: 5,117 ✭✭
    You said 'in your mind', so, let's take a 180 yd. par 3, only instead of a green at the end, there's a barn. An Ok golfer can't hit the broadside of the barn most of the time. A good player can not only hit the broadside of the barn, but pretty much hit it most of the time.
  • TLUBulldogGolfTLUBulldogGolf Sasquatch Houston, TXMembers Posts: 2,419 ✭✭
    edited May 14, 2018 #26
    chippa13 wrote:


    A good player has already thought the hole from pin placement back to determine what part of the fairway he is aiming for. An OK player is aiming for the fairway.




    I feel like this is high level player vs good player. I rarely think about what side of the fairway I want to hit, I would maybe on the most position based golf courses. And I would consider myself a pretty good player..
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  • FergusonFerguson Members Posts: 4,701 ✭✭
    OK - 2 or more double bogeys per 18 holes

    GOOD - 0-1 double bogey per 18 holes
  • breakingbadbreakingbad Members Posts: 112
    edited May 14, 2018 #28
    Well after reading the replies I got lost. So I read the OP again.

    Swing thoughts...



    The Good player---- play my miss so that it can be managed.







    The ok player---- Aim for the flag regardless of trouble





    Shots



    Good player ----45 feet radius of target from 150 yards



    Ok player 70 feet radius of target from 150 yards



    I dont care how the ball flight looks if its a repeatable distance then it wrx for me.





    4th edit...head scratcher
  • RobotDoctorRobotDoctor Senior Hacker ClubWRX Posts: 4,550 ClubWRX
    I'm at a point in my life I appreciate the company I keep on the course as opposed to how skilled a player is. Don't get me wrong, I still love playing with excellent players. As for myself, maybe my best golf, or potential, just may be behind me now. I am still aspiring to get back to scratch and believe this is a realistic possibility. Currently I am an OK player, one with potential and he ability to hit several very good shots in a round. I can putt well and my short game is getting better and better. I used to be a great player then became a good player. I'm working on shaking off the rust from my game. More importantly I am trying to act in a manner that is honerable and exhibits integrity. Honor, integrity, respect, exhibiting graciousness and class is what means more to me thank my skills.
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  • RobotDoctorRobotDoctor Senior Hacker ClubWRX Posts: 4,550 ClubWRX
    Ferguson wrote:


    OK - 2 or more double bogeys per 18 holes

    GOOD - 0-1 double bogey per 18 holes




    Wouldn't that be subjective to the quality of the course a golfer plays?
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  • FKA HBFKA HB Members Posts: 373
    When the round is over, a good player will always remove his hat to shake hands.



    A good player never looks like he's doing something for the first time.

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