Kevin Burns is the best

KonkliferKonklifer Thinkin' of a master plan...location, location.Members Posts: 7,813 ✭✭
No one has ever made better putters. Great insight and pulls no punches, regardless whether it's putter makers, golf companies, or tour players. Good Sergio story at 18:45.



http://www.golfwrx.com/514638/gear-dive-kevin-burns-explains-why-he-didnt-sell-out-and-he-opens-up-about-the-putter-industry
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  • vietnameehvietnameeh HIT BALL FAR NOT BALL STRAIGHT Members Posts: 1,898 ✭✭
    I remember when he was local to me (Santa Clara, CA)



    I use to love his putters... they could be had for decent now on ebay
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  • PeanutsDaddyPeanutsDaddy Members Posts: 8,658 ✭✭
    Are there transcripts available for these podcasts? Would rather read the exchange than listen to the banter. Call me old fashioned.
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  • KonkliferKonklifer Thinkin' of a master plan... location, location.Members Posts: 7,813 ✭✭
    There really isn't a lot banter. He is pretty direct.
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  • Nard_SNard_S Members Posts: 3,215 ✭✭
    Bought an NOS Kevin Burns mallet for $75 a few years ago. Great putter, used it 3 years but now have a BB2. If that one fails me, the KB is back in.
  • adam.byrneadam.byrne Members Posts: 219 ✭✭
    Listened today and was great! Loving the golfwrx podcasts!
  • Rob McHughRob McHugh Rob ClubWRX Posts: 976 ClubWRX
    I love my KB putters. I have some early blades 9303 - 9304 with the ‘hidden’ inserts - super cool and they really roll the rock. :-)



    Great thread!



    Rob
  • DrJACOBDrJACOB Members Posts: 170 ✭✭
    This was a good listen and interesting point of view from the manufacturing side. I owe two of Kevin Burns putters and believe he is very under rated considering the quality of the product. Burns has more integrity and less flash than other putter makers. He refused to pay pro player to roll his putter and always used the best materials. The Rodney Dangerfield of the putter maker ("I don't get no respect!").
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  • nova6868nova6868 Members Posts: 4,693 ✭✭
    He doesn't even have a website anymore?

  • warrio17warrio17 Members Posts: 371 ✭✭
    KB does give any F**ks! I love the part where they are speaking about companies paying players to play their equipment. KB mentioned that players feel that they are doing you a favor by playing your equipment, thus the company gaining the exposure and he calls BS on that saying that its actually him doing the players a favor.. He's doing so by providing a top end product that allows them to win all the money. He's a BEAST
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  • haakzillahaakzilla Haakzilla Members Posts: 379 ✭✭
    edited May 18, 2018 #11
    ...that was a nice, unfiltered podcast! Love the honest Kevin shared, glad to hear KBGolf.com (should launch by June) is making a big comeback and adapting to what the customers want vs denying it. Hopefully they will continue their rise back into the mainstream and tours image/clapping.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':clapping:' />
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  • nova6868nova6868 Members Posts: 4,693 ✭✭
    haakzilla wrote:


    glad to here KBGolf.com is making a big comeback




    The website isn't even working. But still, I liked a lot of his answers regarding player sponsorship. I can appreciate somebody who just makes the absolute best product they can and isn't willing to pay people to use it.
  • apexgrindsapexgrinds Members Posts: 188 ✭✭
    Listened on my way to work tonight. Seems like a straight shooter. Didn't he say something to the effect of "all the milled putters you can buy today are cast and then skim milled" ?



    Got me wondering who actually mills putters from billet and who just pretends they do.
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  • 03trdblack03trdblack ClubWRX Posts: 1,850 ClubWRX
    nova6868 wrote:


    He doesn't even have a website anymore?




    You must not have listened to the podcast. He says he is in the process of building the new site and that his old site was essentially worthless. He said the new site should be up within a month.
  • oneaugustaoneaugusta Members Posts: 3,016 ✭✭
    apexgrinds wrote:


    Listened on my way to work tonight. Seems like a straight shooter. Didn't he say something to the effect of "all the milled putters you can buy today are cast and then skim milled" ?



    Got me wondering who actually mills putters from billet and who just pretends they do.
    Would guess he's talking about the retail Camerons, TM's Clevelands etc. Byron, Mills, MannKrafted and Piretti are billet and others.
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  • ChadwickogChadwickog Members Posts: 296 ✭✭
    Was a pretty cool podcast... love my 9307
  • sandtrapsandtrap Members Posts: 823 ✭✭
    Whatever you do don’t play a drinking game to this using “you know”. You would be hammered 5 min in
  • nova6868nova6868 Members Posts: 4,693 ✭✭
    edited Nov 10, 2018 #18
    I'm not sure what's going on. I follow him on IG and it seems like he still doesn't have a website. However, he is making putters with custom eyes available. Haha. OK. I mean, I think his designs are great. He makes some really clean looking stuff. Just have no idea what's going on with the eyes. I actually find it a little creepy. Haha.







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  • Nard_SNard_S Members Posts: 3,215 ✭✭
    Nard_S wrote:


    Bought an NOS Kevin Burns mallet for $75 a few years ago. Great putter, used it 3 years but now have a BB2. If that one fails me, the KB is back in.




    Just to attest, I went back to the KB a month after my post, it's too good.
  • JabbathePuttJabbathePutt Members Posts: 37 ✭✭
    Kevin Burns putters were/are flawless. The lines were so clean at address, plus he had those models with the hidden insert which was a cool concept. As another person mentioned above, a few years ago a seller based in Hawaii had a bunch of NOS KB models for sale on the bay at very reasonable prices, I bought two of them, which I eventually resold to buy a set of irons, to this day I regret selling those putters. The milling on the faces was something to behold.
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  • haakzillahaakzilla Haakzilla Members Posts: 379 ✭✭
    nova6868 wrote:


    I'm not sure what's going on. I follow him on IG and it seems like he still doesn't have a website. However, he is making putters with custom eyes available. Haha. OK. I mean, I think his designs are great. He makes some really clean looking stuff. Just have no idea what's going on with the eyes. I actually find it a little creepy. Haha.







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    ...yes, clearly they didn't invest in a legit marketing/branding team here which is sad. I agree that it looks creepy and out of character for what should be a premium putter maker.



    And regarding there website, I build websites for a living and reached out them (Kevin's son) several months ago offering my assistance to accelerate the launch since it had already been a few stagnant months after the podcast aired with no website. They just keep saying that it's coming soon...coming soon...etc. Now as far as they've gotten is a landing page to capture your name and email here --> https://www.kevinburnsputters.com/ <-- this should have been up from day 1 of the podcast. It's also a Shopify based website so it really takes no time to offer a live store of products available...not sure what's going over there, but sadly they are missing the mark from a marketing standpoint.
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  • KonkliferKonklifer Thinkin' of a master plan... location, location.Members Posts: 7,813 ✭✭
    As a long time KB fan, I too am perplexed by what he's got coming. Why he has painted eyes is a mystery and yes, very creepy. He has always had contempt for the mainstream golf market and is a notorious control freak. It doesn't surprise me at all about the delays and doing it all himself. I'll say, I hope that new logo is not on all of what he's got coming. I'm sure you will be able to customize it.



    One thing I'm not worried about is the craftsmanship. He's a perfectionist and the quality is the best there is.
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  • nova6868nova6868 Members Posts: 4,693 ✭✭
    Someone stage an intervention. image/busted_cop.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':busted_cop:' />





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  • haakzillahaakzilla Haakzilla Members Posts: 379 ✭✭
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  • PeanutsDaddyPeanutsDaddy Members Posts: 8,658 ✭✭
    Can you order these heads without the 👀? Love the clean lines and adjustability. Not really sure about the eyes.
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  • FairwayFredFairwayFred Sponsors Posts: 4,020 ✭✭
    I'm gaming a KB putter atm Kevin makes a top notch product. The GSS w the diamond milled face adds up to one of my favorite putters as far as sound and feel at impact. That said I am not a big fan of the eyes thing either. Hope that's just an option.
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  • Scotty1140Scotty1140 Members Posts: 4,444 ✭✭
    Wow the eyes look awful. What a terrible brand logo. Doesn’t match the quality of the actual putter at all IMO.
  • SwingManSwingMan SwingMan Members Posts: 6,800
    I think the eye thing is funny - he's telling the hole "I only have eyes for you."
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  • Nard_SNard_S Members Posts: 3,215 ✭✭
    Yeah, surprised with the "eye thing". My KB is champagne finished with copper insert, it is done in exquisite good taste. Oh well.
  • airbusisamustairbusisamust Members Posts: 16 ✭✭
    Are the eyes sticker’s?
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  • nova6868nova6868 Members Posts: 4,693 ✭✭
    I feel like I have to keep updating this thread because he... just... won't... stop. Haha. This seems like the official brand image that he is now going with.



    The sad thing is that I think this putter head and hosel look fantastic.





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