NCAA Div 1 women's final is today

bogeyprobogeypro The Original BogeyproALClubWRX Posts: 3,253 ClubWRX
I didn't see golfwrx mention it, but the women have been playing all week. Finals are today - Bama vs Arizona.



Roll Tide!



full disclosure here - I am currently a student at Alabama finishing up my degree (better late than never, right?).
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  • WarrickWarrick ClubWRX Posts: 10,369 ClubWRX
    edited May 23, 2018 #2
    I have been watching all week, have enjoyed it. I was happy for Kupcho, was a brutal loss last year.



    Bama is a machine, love watching Lauren Stephenson hit the ball, but I am all in for the underdog. When Bianca dropped the eagle on the 72nd to get Zona in a playoff, was all in with them. My Noles could not quit get in, had to pick one of the 8 to root for.



    Hope to see a good finals match.



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  • 2putttom2putttom # 1 Oregon Duck fan Members Posts: 10,003 ✭✭
    lol I already have BAMA in the win bracket
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  • FlyingLaw1FlyingLaw1 MOMembers Posts: 864 ✭✭
    Been watching as well. Some very talented players in college these days! Look forward to working with the final on in the back ground today.
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  • WarrickWarrick ClubWRX Posts: 10,369 ClubWRX
    2putttom wrote:


    lol I already have BAMA in the win bracket




    Good chance of that, but I bet a lot had UCLA, and or Stanford beating Zona also. Gotta ride that mo.....



    I like watching Haley Moore, streaky player, can get hot. I am not sure of the lineup today but would love to see Bianca and Lauren battle it out in the final match for the win.
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  • cardoustiecardoustie haha, we don't play for 5's Members Posts: 12,025 ✭✭
    edited May 23, 2018 #6
    When I watch ladies golf I am always amazed at how poor their short games are compared to the guys



    You think it would be the opposite but I've heard hand strength is a big factor



    NB there are some long lady players putting up some solid ball speeds !!!



    Also, not a fan of the poor attitude or the larger girl .. too much pouting
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  • 2putttom2putttom # 1 Oregon Duck fan Members Posts: 10,003 ✭✭
    cardoustie wrote:


    When I watch ladies golf I am always amazed at how poor their short games are compared to the guys



    You think it would be the opposite but I've heard hand strength is a big factor



    NB there are some long lady players putting up some solid ball speeds !!!



    Also, not a fan of the poor attitude or the larger girl .. too much pouting
    so whats ur over all take of the tournament ?
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  • Dustin_JDustin_J St. Louis, MOMembers Posts: 154 ✭✭
    I've been watching this in the background over the last few days, and it's been a lot of fun. It would be wonderful if more of these sorts of events would be televised - c'mon Golf Channel!
  • NJpatbeeNJpatbee Members Posts: 1,515 ✭✭
    I did watch enough of the singles championship to watch the golfer from Wake Forest (Kupcho) win since my daughter and a lot of my money went there (as well as Arnie).
  • daegyudaegyu Members Posts: 236 ✭✭
    Really enjoy watching these events. The East Lake Cup last year was fun to watch. That Muni He is quite the looker
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  • Redjeep83Redjeep83 Members Posts: 5,185 ✭✭
    I enjoy watching college golf too, like to see the raw swings. Can't stand listening to the commentator billy ray brown though, fat guy pudging around the course.
  • bogeyprobogeypro The Original Bogeypro ALClubWRX Posts: 3,253 ClubWRX
    Great final, but didn't win.... lost in a playoff hole. Bama had a couple missteps down the stretch on the last 2 matches. Still a great showing and I know they are reloading.



    Now, time for the Bama men's team to finish it.
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  • Golf DinoGolf Dino Members Posts: 146 ✭✭
    Some other LPGA members that played collegiate golf include:



    Azaraha Muñoz

    Beatriz Recari

    Belen Mozo

    Austin Ernst

    Gaby Lopez

    Emma Talley

    Brittany Marchand

    Anne-Catherine Tanguay

    Danielle Kang

    Maude-Aimee Leblanc

    Bronte Law

    Carlotta Ciganda

    Holly Clyburn

    Michelle Wie*

    Brittany Lang



    Wie attended Stanford but was already a member of the LPGA. Most of the names above are right off of the LPGA leaderboard for the Volvik Tournament in Ann Arbour, MI.





    Of course two recent notables include Annika Sorenstam and Lorena Ochoa ... both of whom played for the University of Arizona Wildcats ... the team that just won the NCAA championships.



    The main point though, about whether the collegiate system is a good system for developing future professionals, is valid. There are some players that just need more time to develop physically and mentally, and in doing so develop their games to the point that they can qualify for and compete on the LPGA.
  • WidespreadPanicWidespreadPanic Wizard in the Corner Members Posts: 4,862 ✭✭
    edited May 24, 2018 #14
    I kind of enjoyed watching it, but these girls were painfully slow. Almost 6 hour rounds. I don't know what the coaches are teaching them, but Alabamas putting routines are insane. Cheyenne Knight took almost 3 minutes to hit a 4ft putt. I get that it's a big event, but jeez it was hard to watch at times. Not even to mention Moore pouting like a 6 year old. I probably sound harsh, but I'm not sure how good of an advertisement that was for women's college golf.
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  • 4waymiss4waymiss Members Posts: 1,019 ✭✭
    Some argument is that stroke play ( before GC start airing it in 2015) is the best way to determine the national champion. UCLA and Alabama are arguably two of the best teams this year and they finished 1 and 2 in stroke play portion.



    Match play can be volatile and you are done if your big stars have a slightly off day while running into a hot opponent. 8th seed Arizona beat them both. But I have to admit it was incredibly exciting TV.



    I doubt GC would ever have signed on if not for match play. No doubt TV exposure will push the sport. And when the alumni see their school on TV they will open their wallet, which in turn benefit the whole student body.



    I know it is backward, but this is America.
  • WarrickWarrick ClubWRX Posts: 10,369 ClubWRX
    For me, I give Hayley a pass. She is an emotional player, but she was not out throwing clubs in the water, or snapping a driver, or screaming. She wears her emotions on her sleeve, and yes gets frustrated, and a bit pouty, but is passionate.



    I had a more difficult time watching Knight on the greens, just brutal.



    There was a lot of good and bad from most all involved in the whole thing, but it is college sports, and we will get that.
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  • WarrickWarrick ClubWRX Posts: 10,369 ClubWRX
    KBong wrote:

    4waymiss wrote:


    And when the alumni see their school on TV they will open their wallet, which in turn benefit the whole student body.


    Yes, there are alumni donations that can be significant, but don't you think most university athletic programs are mainly funded by the money brought in by the football and basketball revenues....obviously I can be totally out of line....I don't fully comprehend US collegiate athletic financing.

    All I know is that there is virtually no money in Canadian university athletic programs....heck I don't even know how the CFL can stay afloat.




    Yes, big time Football programs fund a lot of other University sports
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  • Golf DinoGolf Dino Members Posts: 146 ✭✭
    The increased television exposure that comes about from the Golf Channel now broadcasting live play of the NCAA Championships is good for collegiate golf. The match play format is far more interesting to watch and has more drama in it than a regular stroke play event -- and as such, has the potential to appeal to less traditional golfers/audience.



    While I completely agree with the sentiment that stroke play tends to produce the best player(s) over 4 rounds of tournament golf, there is something top be said for match play and the drama that it can bring to the event.
  • Golf DinoGolf Dino Members Posts: 146 ✭✭
    Warrick wrote:


    For me, I give Hayley a pass. She is an emotional player, but she was not out throwing clubs in the water, or snapping a driver, or screaming. She wears her emotions on her sleeve, and yes gets frustrated, and a bit pouty, but is passionate.



    I had a more difficult time watching Knight on the greens, just brutal.



    There was a lot of good and bad from most all involved in the whole thing, but it is college sports, and we will get that.




    I agree with you on both counts. I think Hayley was just extremely nervous and she does "wear her emotions on her sleeve". Plus, as was noted throughout the broadcast, both her and her Alabama competitor like to play quickly and being in the last group, having to wait on nearly every shot probably heightened the emotions and nervousness in both of them.



    I recall a fiery Spaniard who took the golf world by storm at the British Open (or The Open Championship) in 1976 and he was most definitely known for his "pouting" and his passion, etc. image/taunt.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':taunt:' />
  • rushfan96rushfan96 Members Posts: 595 ✭✭
    Golf Dino wrote:


    Some other LPGA members that played collegiate golf include:



    Azaraha Muñoz

    Beatriz Recari

    Belen Mozo

    Austin Ernst

    Gaby Lopez

    Emma Talley

    Brittany Marchand

    Anne-Catherine Tanguay

    Danielle Kang

    Maude-Aimee Leblanc

    Bronte Law

    Carlotta Ciganda

    Holly Clyburn

    Michelle Wie*

    Brittany Lang



    Wie attended Stanford but was already a member of the LPGA. Most of the names above are right off of the LPGA leaderboard for the Volvik Tournament in Ann Arbour, MI.





    Of course two recent notables include Annika Sorenstam and Lorena Ochoa ... both of whom played for the University of Arizona Wildcats ... the team that just won the NCAA championships.



    The main point though, about whether the collegiate system is a good system for developing future professionals, is valid. There are some players that just need more time to develop physically and mentally, and in doing so develop their games to the point that they can qualify for and compete on the LPGA.





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  • Seamus_McDuffSeamus_McDuff ChicagoMembers Posts: 908 ✭✭
    KBong wrote:


    I'm not not convinced a newly minted Duke grad, Leona Macguire, will become a LPGA star....she WD from 2017 LPGA Q school maybe knowing she still wasn't ready for the LPGA???






    She did not WD from Q-school.



    She did not participate in Stage III because she wanted to finish school and Stage II gave her the Symetra status she wanted.





    Category F: Players at Stage II of the 2017 LPGA Qualifying Tournament who advance to Stage III, but either elect to not participate in or do not complete Stage III. Players will be ranked based on the order of their finish at Stage II. Ties will be broken in the following order: lowest final round; lowest 3rd round; lowest 2nd round; lowest 1st round; match of score cards beginning with the 18th hole of the final round and working backwards.

    181. Leona Maguire (a) 183. Fumika Kawagishi 185. Cheyenne Knight (a)

    182. Amy Ruengmateekhun * 184. Youngin Chun





    Katelyn Dambaugh did the same thing last year and ended up in the top 10 on the Symetra money list.
  • oldschooltarheeloldschooltarheel Members Posts: 173 ✭✭
    Really enjoyed this event. The Final match was fabulous. Can’t wait for the men next week.
  • Seamus_McDuffSeamus_McDuff ChicagoMembers Posts: 908 ✭✭
    KBong wrote:


    KBong wrote:


    I'm not not convinced a newly minted Duke grad, Leona Macguire, will become a LPGA star....she WD from 2017 LPGA Q school maybe knowing she still wasn't ready for the LPGA???






    She did not WD from Q-school.



    She did not participate in Stage III because she wanted to finish school and Stage II gave her the Symetra status she wanted.





    Category F: Players at Stage II of the 2017 LPGA Qualifying Tournament who advance to Stage III, but either elect to not participate in or do not complete Stage III. Players will be ranked based on the order of their finish at Stage II. Ties will be broken in the following order: lowest final round; lowest 3rd round; lowest 2nd round; lowest 1st round; match of score cards beginning with the 18th hole of the final round and working backwards.

    181. Leona Maguire (a) 183. Fumika Kawagishi 185. Cheyenne Knight (a)

    182. Amy Ruengmateekhun * 184. Youngin Chun





    Katelyn Dambaugh did the same thing last year and ended up in the top 10 on the Symetra money list.


    http://www.lpga.com/news/2016-maguire-withdraws-from-qschool-will-not-pursue-lpga-membership-in-2017



    Maguire WD in 2016.....so twice she didn't want to go into final stage in 2016 & 2017....I don't follow her closely...so I was a bit confused when she WD.

    If her main intention(s) were to go 4 full years at Duke...why bother registering for Q school.



    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/29/sports/golf/lpga-hannah-osullivan-duke-ana-inspiration.html

    Didn't Hannah O'Sullivan also do the same thing and WD from Q school maybe knowing she really didn't have the game to compete on the LPGA.

    Now at Duke, her golf game is struggling and she's a shadow of her past success.




    Ok, I guess she technically WD in 2016 because she actually registered for Stage III, but I think she did it before play started.



    In 2017 she didn’t register for Stage III. She knew she wanted to finish school and join Symetra after the season. I expect to see her playing one of the next two Symetra events.



    Maybe she really wanted her degree.

    Maybe she wanted to honor her commitment to Duke.

    Maybe she didn’t want to leave her twin sister, who’s also on the team.





    I think O’Sullivan was only a Freshman this year and I see no record of her playing Q-school last Fall.



  • Seamus_McDuffSeamus_McDuff ChicagoMembers Posts: 908 ✭✭
    The Maguire sisters are playing Shoprite LPGA this week and Cheyenne Knight and Lakareber Abe are playing Symetra. All are playing as pros.
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