Too much to ask? - Ebayers/Sellers

JuskoJusko Members Posts: 14
To fellow Ebayers or anyone selling equipment on any website:



Is it way too much to ask for sellers to offer pictures that show you the "top line or address" of a golf club? To me this is the most important part after I research a few manufacturers and narrow down what I may purchase. I end up spending loads of time searching for images online and go back and forth from ebay "or wherever" to google. It seems like this happens 90% of the time. Has anyone else had these issues? Do other golfers not care about that top line image? Just curious if I am alone here. Any feedback would be much appreciated.



I always do this when I sell and seem to have pretty quick buys with minimal to no questions.
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  • nsxguynsxguy Just anudder user FloridaMembers Posts: 5,600 ✭✭
    LOL



    It is especially annoying with drivers and putters. (irons not so much)

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  • disco111disco111 Members Posts: 990 ✭✭
    Any time I've had a question on an eBay item (golf) I asked the seller for additional specific pics. If I got no response, then it told me all I needed to know about both the item and seller.
  • JuskoJusko Members Posts: 14
    nsxguy wrote:


    LOL



    It is especially annoying with drivers and putters. (irons not so much)
    HaHa. I agree mostly although I do like to see the offset of an iron too. But, not showing the top line of a putter!!!! WOW!! it's absolutely crazy to me sometimes.
  • ChristopherMcDonaldChristopherMcDonald Members Posts: 2,396 ✭✭
    edited Jun 5, 2018 #5
    Yeah topline is super important. I think overall photos of the entire club should be provided. I want to know what the ENTIRE thing looks like before I make a decision, especially if it's a big ticket club.



    I think overall, people need to be more honest with their photos when selling a product. I bought a 3 wood head off ebay with a good 1/4" of shaft broken off in the hosel still. While I totally could drill it out but point is I don't want to and the ad didn't state it had a shaft broken off in there. They also didn't get good photos of how worn down the face or sole was.



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    Yeah topline is super important. I think overall photos of the entire club should be provided. I want to know what the ENTIRE thing looks like before I make a decision, especially if it's a big ticket club.



    I think overall, people need to be more honest with their photos when selling a product. I bought a 3 wood head off ebay with a good 1/4" of shaft broken off in the hosel still. While I totally could drill it out but point is I don't want to and the ad didn't state it had a shaft broken off in there. They also didn't get good photos of how worn down the face or sole was.



    Careful out there guys, there are people always trying to get ahead at your expense.
    Couldn't agree more. Even for the straight shooters the pictures are sometimes lacking on what I want to buy. I'm no expert in photography but it just seems like a golf club photo should show the playing position or top line. Simple really.
  • JDMRN81JDMRN81 PAMembers Posts: 438 ✭✭
    Top line of putters and woods so I can look for imperfections. Otherwise, topline on irons is kind of pointless since pictures can be deceiving depending on distance and angle the picture is being taken at. If the topline is that important to you, check them out in person first.
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  • ChristopherMcDonaldChristopherMcDonald Members Posts: 2,396 ✭✭
    Jusko wrote:



    Yeah topline is super important. I think overall photos of the entire club should be provided. I want to know what the ENTIRE thing looks like before I make a decision, especially if it's a big ticket club.



    I think overall, people need to be more honest with their photos when selling a product. I bought a 3 wood head off ebay with a good 1/4" of shaft broken off in the hosel still. While I totally could drill it out but point is I don't want to and the ad didn't state it had a shaft broken off in there. They also didn't get good photos of how worn down the face or sole was.



    Careful out there guys, there are people always trying to get ahead at your expense.
    Couldn't agree more. Even for the straight shooters the pictures are sometimes lacking on what I want to buy. I'm no expert in photography but it just seems like a golf club photo should show the playing position or top line. Simple really.




    My photo skills are severely lacking also BUT when I go to sell a club I think to myself:



    If I was selling to this guy face to face, he'd grab the club, likely look at it from address, then check for imperfections. So those are the photos I aim to provide to them
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  • JuskoJusko Members Posts: 14

    Jusko wrote:



    Yeah topline is super important. I think overall photos of the entire club should be provided. I want to know what the ENTIRE thing looks like before I make a decision, especially if it's a big ticket club.



    I think overall, people need to be more honest with their photos when selling a product. I bought a 3 wood head off ebay with a good 1/4" of shaft broken off in the hosel still. While I totally could drill it out but point is I don't want to and the ad didn't state it had a shaft broken off in there. They also didn't get good photos of how worn down the face or sole was.



    Careful out there guys, there are people always trying to get ahead at your expense.
    Couldn't agree more. Even for the straight shooters the pictures are sometimes lacking on what I want to buy. I'm no expert in photography but it just seems like a golf club photo should show the playing position or top line. Simple really.




    My photo skills are severely lacking also BUT when I go to sell a club I think to myself:



    If I was selling to this guy face to face, he'd grab the club, likely look at it from address, then check for imperfections. So those are the photos I aim to provide to them
    Exactly.
  • Huey222Huey222 Members Posts: 84 ✭✭
    edited Jun 5, 2018 #10
    I think with sites like WRX and ****, you should be able to find the top line of a club. IMO pics on BST/Ebay posts should show the condition of the club, pointing out whats good and bad. Sure, I want to see the top of a wood to avoid skymarks, but irons, meh.



    Edit: If you're worried about being 'duped/had' for a club thats a lesser quality than advertised, i suggest the higher volume/feedback sellers on ebay. I got my 915 off the bay and when I got it, there was a horrible skymark that missed the photoshoot apparently. He sent me half of my money back. I can do a skymark for a deal.
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  • Z1ggy16Z1ggy16 Members Posts: 7,260 ✭✭
    edited Jun 5, 2018 #11
    I always include top line photos when applicable. Usually do address, bottom, face on, then the club next to a tape measure to display playing length and to validate tipping or lack thereof.
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  • JuskoJusko Members Posts: 14
    JDMRN81 wrote:


    Top line of putters and woods so I can look for imperfections. Otherwise, topline on irons is kind of pointless since pictures can be deceiving depending on distance and angle the picture is being taken at. If the topline is that important to you, check them out in person first.
    Not all of us have that option of checking things out in person. This is strictly discussing online selling and purchases. If you can line up a putter and snap a shot of the top line then you should be able to do the same with an iron.
  • JuskoJusko Members Posts: 14
    Z1ggy16 wrote:


    I always include top line photos when applicable. Usually do address, bottom, face on, then the club next to a tape measure to display laying length and to validate tipping or lack thereof.
    Seems like this would make sense to most. I haven's been using a tape measure but that's something I should probably include as well. Appreciate your feedback.
  • PatsNationPatsNation Members Posts: 1,504 ✭✭
    edited Jun 5, 2018 #14
    How about all the buyers on here that say they will take a club send me your paypal and then they go MIA. Getting pretty bad I feel on here



    Its too bad there isnt a buy it now feature for instant payment like Ebay
  • JuskoJusko Members Posts: 14
    PatsNation wrote:


    How about all the buyers on here that say they will take a club send me your paypal and then they go MIA. Getting pretty bad I feel on here



    Its too bad there isnt a buy it now feature for instant payment like Ebay
    Buy it Now would be a great feature on here for sure.
  • JDMRN81JDMRN81 PAMembers Posts: 438 ✭✭
    Jusko wrote:

    JDMRN81 wrote:


    Top line of putters and woods so I can look for imperfections. Otherwise, topline on irons is kind of pointless since pictures can be deceiving depending on distance and angle the picture is being taken at. If the topline is that important to you, check them out in person first.
    Not all of us have that option of checking things out in person. This is strictly discussing online selling and purchases. If you can line up a putter and snap a shot of the top line then you should be able to do the same with an iron.




    I totally understand you're speaking about online purchasing only. I purchase all of my clubs online now, but that's only after I've checked them out/hit them in person first. If you cannot do the latter, then you're taking a risk regardless if you're getting topline pictures or not (been there, done that, learned my lesson). That being said, I would like to think most WRX (and eBay) sellers would oblige if you ask them to snap a topline of the irons they're selling.
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  • JuskoJusko Members Posts: 14
    Huey222 wrote:


    I think with sites like WRX and ****, you should be able to find the top line of a club. IMO pics on BST/Ebay posts should show the condition of the club, pointing out whats good and bad. Sure, I want to see the top of a wood to avoid skymarks, but irons, meh.



    Edit: If you're worried about being 'duped/had' for a club thats a lesser quality than advertised, i suggest the higher volume/feedback sellers on ebay. I got my 915 off the bay and when I got it, there was a horrible skymark that missed the photoshoot apparently. He sent me half of my money back. I can do a skymark for a deal.
    I hear you. I'm not speaking as much about getting "duped/had" as I am just about showing the playing position. Just want to see the club at set up. I don't really buy from the ones that post blurry pics or one single shot from long range.Lol. It's like some of these sellers are doing a fly by in a cessna and snapping a photo with a 2004 Motorola Razr. They also may use the same camera as the ones used for pics of the sasquatch. Very popular camera for the forest adventures I guess.
  • ZA206ZA206 Members Posts: 620 ✭✭
    I can't believe how many people either don't include head covers with the item.... I mean a **** hybrid or fairway headcover only fetches $10-$15 or so. Alot of times they could have gotten another $10+ for the item for just including the headcover.... so maybe all the hassle and a box and BS is worth $5? Really?



    The other thing that gets me is people who obviously don't use headcovers on woods/hybrids.... HOLY COW! Yea.... just let your club you say you have only used for "like 3 or 4 rounds" rattle around and get beaten and chipped to death so it looks terrible... I'm sure it'll sell fast. Seriously?



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  • Huey222Huey222 Members Posts: 84 ✭✭
    Jusko wrote:


    I hear you. I'm not speaking as much about getting "duped/had" as I am just about showing the playing position. Just want to see the club at set up. I don't really buy from the ones that post blurry pics or one single shot from long range.Lol. It's like some of these sellers are doing a fly by in a cessna and snapping a photo with a 2004 Motorola Razr. They also may use the same camera as the ones used for pics of the sasquatch. Very popular camera for the forest adventures I guess.




    Yea, I know what you mean. Unless you're looking for that unicorn of a clubdeal, you gotta just take your money elsewhere. Cash is king.



    The other thing I was thinking of; I've only dealt in small doses with selling on ebay. But I remember there being a limit of pics?



    consider this example...



    https://www.ebay.com/itm/Cobra-Amp-Cell-Pro-Irons-4-PW-True-Temper-Dynamic-Gold-S300-/332672568481?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&nma=true&si=yAtdVSxQWuuMKG3sxP%252F95z7tTKM%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc



    Kinda like I started saying above, I'd rather have the up-close pics of the faces than a pic looking down the shaft at address, which I could find here:



    https://pluggedingolf.com/cobra-amp-cell-pro-irons-review/



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  • DeCuchiDeCuchi Members Posts: 1,122
    For woods, hybrids, and putters, I get it. I’m looking for paint chips or dings. For irons, I already know what the address position looks like before I buy. Pics don’t tell me enough, I generally research or test the item in hand before I even search it up on eBay.
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  • MelloYelloMelloYello Upstate, SCMembers Posts: 3,269 ✭✭
    edited Jun 5, 2018 #21
    I'll play devil's advocate here...



    ...if the only photos of the clubs you're about to purchase are the ones from the Ebay ad, you're doing it wrong. There are a million pictures and reviews on clubs around the internet. You should've come across all that stuff before you go to purchase it. If you need to ask the seller for specific pictures because you don't know what a product looks like, you're not trying very hard. That suggests you're on Ebay WAAAAAAY too much, doing far too much shopping. The only thing that needs to be shown in photos is the condition. It's on the buyer to know what they're buying.
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  • JuskoJusko Members Posts: 14
    MelloYello wrote:


    I'll play devil's advocate here...



    ...if the only photos of the clubs you're about to purchase are the ones from the Ebay ad, you're doing it wrong. There are a million pictures and reviews on clubs around the internet. You should've come across all that stuff before you go to purchase it. If you need to ask the seller for specific pictures because you don't know what a product looks like, you're not trying very hard. That suggests you're on Ebay WAAAAAAY too much, doing far too much shopping. The only thing that needs to be shown in photos is the condition. It's on the buyer to know what they're buying.
    Agree to disagree. A lot of assumptions in your post on what I do. It's as simple as taking one shot of the top line. The whole point is to not make the buyer search those "million" other places for the pics. If you want to sell it, take the time to sell it. Ebay offers plenty of photos free to do so. I do plenty of research and I have a really good idea on what I want my clubs to look like.
  • bladehunterbladehunter Today was a good day.... Members Posts: 25,890 ✭✭
    edited Jun 5, 2018 #23
    Too funny. Most people b**** aboot no face pics when you show topline pics. Seems what you want is a 360 degree rotating video complete with hand models and happy ending. If you want brand new ... probably should pay for it. Assuming you are worried about dings.and if you are taking a view so that you can decide if you like the club. eBay or the bst isn’t there to “ sell “ you clubs. They are there to offer clubs “ for sale “. Huge difference. Oems make clubs and offer what you want in terms of sales. Contact them and pay for those pictures and reviews.
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  • MelloYelloMelloYello Upstate, SCMembers Posts: 3,269 ✭✭
    Jusko wrote:

    MelloYello wrote:


    I'll play devil's advocate here...



    ...if the only photos of the clubs you're about to purchase are the ones from the Ebay ad, you're doing it wrong. There are a million pictures and reviews on clubs around the internet. You should've come across all that stuff before you go to purchase it. If you need to ask the seller for specific pictures because you don't know what a product looks like, you're not trying very hard. That suggests you're on Ebay WAAAAAAY too much, doing far too much shopping. The only thing that needs to be shown in photos is the condition. It's on the buyer to know what they're buying.
    Agree to disagree. A lot of assumptions in your post on what I do. It's as simple as taking one shot of the top line. The whole point is to not make the buyer search those "million" other places for the pics. If you want to sell it, take the time to sell it. Ebay offers plenty of photos free to do so. I do plenty of research and I have a really good idea on what I want my clubs to look like.




    If you want reviews, browse GolfWRX.



    If you want to hold it in your hands go to GG, PGASS, DSG, etc.



    If you want cheap prices go to Ebay.



    If you want photos simply open another window in your browser and Google the club.







    Sorry bud, but it sure sounds like you want a faster, more streamlined process for purchasing clubs to which an appropriate response would be...



    ...just how many clubs are you buying!? image/wink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' />
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  • ZA206ZA206 Members Posts: 620 ✭✭
    I know when I have sold clubs on ebay, I ALWAYS have the following shots in the ad:

    Closeup of Face

    Closeup of Topline with the seam where the face meets the crown clearly visible and in focus

    Closeup of Sole/hosel

    Closeup of Backside

    Closeup of Shaft label/ID area

    Over-all picture of the entire club with the head cover



    Six pictures is all you need, but it needs to be the correct 6. Everything I've ever sold, I sold FAST. "Free shipping" and a solid "buy it now" price helps as well.



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  • erock9174erock9174 North Canton, OHMembers Posts: 3,943 ✭✭
    I often buy from Proclubs on ebay and while they do a good job normally of describing the crown on woods and hybrids they take the picture of the topline and not of the full crown and it drives me nuts. I know they have a boat load of listings but one more pic each would really make their listings the best around.

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  • PixlPutterman PixlPutterman Look At My Lefty J33R(hey I can wish) Members Posts: 8,248 ✭✭
    What is even worse are the sellers that post stock images and list a club in bargain/fair condition..........
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  • MelloYelloMelloYello Upstate, SCMembers Posts: 3,269 ✭✭


    What is even worse are the sellers that post stock images and list a club in bargain/fair condition..........




    There's a special place in ****...
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  • JuskoJusko Members Posts: 14
    ZA206 wrote:


    I know when I have sold clubs on ebay, I ALWAYS have the following shots in the ad:

    Closeup of Face

    Closeup of Topline with the seam where the face meets the crown clearly visible and in focus

    Closeup of Sole/hosel

    Closeup of Backside

    Closeup of Shaft label/ID area

    Over-all picture of the entire club with the head cover



    Six pictures is all you need, but it needs to be the correct 6. Everything I've ever sold, I sold FAST. "Free shipping" and a solid "buy it now" price helps as well.



    -ZA
    I'm the same way. I really don't sell on there to make a lot of money. I'm done with the club I'm selling so the buyer always gets a great deal with plenty of the clearest photos I can provide (Top Line at address included). Thanks for your feedback.
  • wrmillerwrmiller Members Posts: 1,569 ✭✭
    You can find a topline shot of any club on the makers website. I'm more interested in pics of the faces and soles of the clubs, but that's just me I guess.



    I've sold my share of clubs on Ebay, and will shortly be selling a couple more. Never have any problems.



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  • dunndunn Members Posts: 6,361 ✭✭
    Jist look at manufacturer pics or any of the other hundreds of pics on internet.....not like clubs are exclusive to certain people....there are multiple pages of info and pics on jist about every club in last 10 yrs...they don't change because your buying em from ebay



    If your in the market for that club you should already know everything you need to know about them.....



    Yeah it's kind of annoying when people ask.....especially when they ask questions that are already in description ( everytime somebody will ask this)



    Been long time since I sold anything but people are incredibly annoying in general.....



    Do your research b4 you buy and buying should be based off authenticity, condition and price .....



    AP2 looks same regardless of where you buy it from



    If it's an oddball club I could see adding pics....
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