True Temper Elevate - Iron Shafts

So it looks like there is a new iron shaft on tour, that supposed to help launch higher and land steeper with the new ultra low spin balls. I think they are lighter than a dg-x100 as well by around 9/10 grams, so that puts them at what right around 120grams?



hopefully we can get some more info on these asap...



*there are pics on true tempers instagram
JBeam J3 Tour 10* - Syncagraphite Loop Prototype IP X
A Grind FW #3 14* - Tensei Pro White 80 TX
Mizuno JPX 900 Tour #3 GF Forged
Kyoei Prototype MB #4-PW
(Nippon LSL Proto X Flex in 3-PW)
Wedge Rotation; Crazy, GrindStudio, SDJ 115, Artisan
(Shimada Tour Wedge Black Shaft)
(DG Onyx Black Tour Issue DGS400)
Benock Okuda Putter (JSS/SUS316L) 009 head shape
Elite Y360*SH Black/Black
Elite Geron Type N2 Putter Black
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  • pga43pga43 GolfWRX.com's Tour Photographer Nashville,_ TNMarshals Posts: 9,232 mod
  • GC70GC70 What's Next? ClubWRX Posts: 7,529 ✭✭
    Do we know what other flex profiles will be available or will it only come in x100’s?
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    XR Steelhead 15* Atmos Red 7S
    818 H1 Atmos Blue 8S
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  • Diamana_StingerDiamana_Stinger Members Posts: 270 ✭✭
    GC70 wrote:


    Do we know what other flex profiles will be available or will it only come in x100's?




    I think there is "S" and "X" available on tour right now, but I dont think they are using the weighting like s300,s400,x100 etc. on these.
    JBeam J3 Tour 10* - Syncagraphite Loop Prototype IP X
    A Grind FW #3 14* - Tensei Pro White 80 TX
    Mizuno JPX 900 Tour #3 GF Forged
    Kyoei Prototype MB #4-PW
    (Nippon LSL Proto X Flex in 3-PW)
    Wedge Rotation; Crazy, GrindStudio, SDJ 115, Artisan
    (Shimada Tour Wedge Black Shaft)
    (DG Onyx Black Tour Issue DGS400)
    Benock Okuda Putter (JSS/SUS316L) 009 head shape
    Elite Y360*SH Black/Black
    Elite Geron Type N2 Putter Black
  • poppman2142poppman2142 Members Posts: 1,145 ✭✭
    Vss on the band=vibration dampening? I hope so!
    Callaway Epic Flash SZ triple diamond 10.5* with Tensei Pro Orange 70 stiff untipped
    Ping G400 Max 10.5* with Tensei Pro Orange 70 stiff untipped
    Callaway Epic Flash SZ 15* with Tensei Pro White 70 stiff tipped 1/2"
    Callaway Apex 19' 18* with Diamana Thump 90 stiff tipped 1/4"
    Callaway Apex Pro dot 4-P with Shimada Tour X-Stiff SS 1X
    Mizuno T7 51,56,61 with Shimada Tour X-Stiff 
    Epon Zen 34.75" with Grip Master leather wrap
    Toulon Azalea 34.75" with Stability putter shaft
    2018 Callaway Chrome Soft X/Taylormade tp5x
    Golf Pride Multicompound Black/Black +1/64"
    Ogio Silencer bag
  • SirHoselRocketSirHoselRocket Members Posts: 275
    I hope they release some more info on how the shaft helps with decent angle and whatever else they are claiming...
  • Diamana_StingerDiamana_Stinger Members Posts: 270 ✭✭
    I found this press release, courtesy Jonathan Wall/PGA Tour;



    MEMPHIS, Tenn. — The introduction of solid-core construction golf balls has been a massive benefit for players on the PGA TOUR — particularly when it comes to the driver where low spin qualities equate to more distance off the tee.


    But decreasing spin with the driver can sometimes come at a cost, especially in the iron department for those players who don't fall in the high swing speed category.


    "We've seen a lot of guys, as they are going to low-spin golf balls to reduce the spin with the driver, they are struggling with the launch on their irons," said Don Brown, Project X's director of innovation. "We noticed there was a small hole in our lineup where we could help a player get the ball in the air."


    The solution is True Temper's Elevate shaft. The new part comes in at 121 grams, roughly nine grams lighter than the popular Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100 part.


    Going lighter can help boost swing speed, however, True Temper wanted to fix launch at the same time. Engineers were able to add an additional two degrees of launch via a thinner .370-inch diameter section just below the last step — Dynamic Gold is .395 inches — that activates the tip section.


    "During testing, the TOUR guys with the lower clubhead speeds are seeing the benefits of what this shaft can do," said True Temper Tour rep Paul Loegering. "Getting the apex and landing angle optimized are critical to ensuring the ball isn't spinning too much but is still stopping on the green."


    Loegering mentioned that while players are going to get more height with Elevate, it's designed to not balloon on shots that need to be flighted through the wind.


    "If a player is challenged getting that height, he's going to get more elevation but not too much spin," Loegering said. "It keeps things in a good sweet spot so you can still flight the ball if necessary and not have to worry about it spinning out of control."




    Another new addition is a Vibration Suppression System (VSS) housed inside the shaft that helps reduce unwanted vibrations at impact. Similar to the company's Sensicore insert, it's roughly 75 percent lighter than its predecessor.


    "The VSS is a benefit for the pro and the amateur," Brown said. "It was built for Elevate but can be applied to other products we're working on at the moment."


    True Temper Tour reps confirmed a 95-gram part is also in the works. For now, the shaft is available at 121 grams in two flexes (S and X) on TOUR.
    JBeam J3 Tour 10* - Syncagraphite Loop Prototype IP X
    A Grind FW #3 14* - Tensei Pro White 80 TX
    Mizuno JPX 900 Tour #3 GF Forged
    Kyoei Prototype MB #4-PW
    (Nippon LSL Proto X Flex in 3-PW)
    Wedge Rotation; Crazy, GrindStudio, SDJ 115, Artisan
    (Shimada Tour Wedge Black Shaft)
    (DG Onyx Black Tour Issue DGS400)
    Benock Okuda Putter (JSS/SUS316L) 009 head shape
    Elite Y360*SH Black/Black
    Elite Geron Type N2 Putter Black
  • GoIrish17GoIrish17 Members Posts: 5,599 ✭✭
    From the above, it sounds like this shaft is going to fit a very small niche of tour pros but would be very beneficial to many amateurs who are better golfers without high clubhead speed.
    Driver: Ping G400 LST 8.5° | Evenflow HC Black 65
    vs.
    Cobra F9 9° | Atmos Tour Spec Black 6
    Fairway: M4 Tour 15° | Kuro Kage XT 70
    Hybrid: Callaway X2Hot Pro 18° | Speeder HB 8.8
    Driving Iron: Apex X-Forged Utility 21° | AD-DI 105
    Irons: Srixon 785 5-pw | Recoil 110
    Wedges: Vokey SM7 raw 48° F (Handground S), 54° S, 58° V | KBS 610
    Putter: Tad Moore Pro 1S prototype
    Putter: Scotty AOP Newport oil can
    Putter: Piretti Potenza II black 
    Putter: Byron Morgan DH89 oil can

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  • nova6868nova6868 Members Posts: 4,692 ✭✭
    Sounds interesting. I wonder how different it would be from DG 120 x100 though. I guess this is a slightly different profile with a softer tip.
  • kobes31kobes31 EFF Members Posts: 792 ✭✭
    I'm listening TT...
  • johnnylongballz72johnnylongballz72 Members Posts: 545 ✭✭
    I don't have to wait for a fitter to tell me that this will be perfect for me. These will be right up my alley!
    Callaway Epic Flash 10.5* with GD AD IZ 7X
    Callaway Epic Flash 15* with Tensei Blue 7X
    Callaway Epic Flash 18* with Tensei Blue 7X
    Callaway X-Forged UT 24*
    Callaway Apex Pro 5-AW with Project X LZ 6.5 SS 1X
    Callaway PM Grind 2.0 54* and 60* with Project X LZ 6.0
    Toulon Las Vegas with Stroke Lab
  • mesegrnmesegrn mesegrn Members Posts: 1,138 ✭✭
    Sounds like everything I want in a shaft! I was going to build a set of Project x 5.5 with wooden dowels in the tip, but upon reading this I think I'll wait. I like this idea True Temper!!
  • bazinkybazinky Members Posts: 1,654 ✭✭
    Good lord, those things sound like they were designed for me!



    Glad I decided to put off getting new irons off till the fall. Hopefully these will be more widely available by then.
    Cobra LTD @10.5 - UST Elements Chrome 6F4
    Titleist 917 F2 16.5 @C1 (15.75) - MRC D+ Limited 80 S
    Callaway X2Hot Pro @20 - Aldila Tour Green 75 S
    Callaway X2Hot Pro @23 - Aldila Tour Green 75 S or Ping i20 4i - KBS Tour S - Yellow Dot
    Ping i20 5i-UW - KBS Tour S - Yellow Dot
    Ping Glide 54 SS - CFS Wedge S - Blue Dot
    Ping Glide 58 ES - CFS Wedge S - Black Dot
    Taylormade Spider Tour Red Half-Sightline - 35"
  • Shanks2424Shanks2424 Members Posts: 240 ✭✭
    i want a set.
    Brad's Bag 2019
    Driver- Titleist 910 D3 8.5 Fujikura Speeder Pro TS Stiff
    3 Wood- Titleist 909 F3 15* Matrix HD9 Stiff
    Hybrid- Adams A12 Pro 18* Project X PXI 6.0
    3-PW- Mizuno MP57 3-PW TT Dynamic Gold S300
    Wedges-Cleveland 588 Forged Raw 54/58 TT Dynamic Gold S300
    Putter- Odyssey Tank 1 34 Inches Super Stroke Flatso 1.0
    Ball- Titleist Pro V1
    Bag Ogio Woode Stand Bag
     Grips Lamkin Crossline 58 Round 2 Wraps of Tape

    Gavin's Bad 9 Year old son
    Driver- Cobra Fly Z 12.5 Junior Cobra Shaft
    4Wood- Cobra Amp 16.5 Cobra Junior Shaft[/background]
    Hybrid- ???????
    6-PW Cobra Max Apollo Junior Steel Shaft
    Wedges- Cobra Max 50*  Cobra Pur 56* Apollo Junior Steel Shaft
    Putter- Odyssey Metal X Rossie Super Stroke Ultra Slim 1.0
    Ball- Titleist DTtru Soft.
    Bag- Maxfli Black and Blue Junior Bag
    Winn Dritec on Driver and 3 Wood
    Golf Pride Junior Tour Velvet On Irons and Wedges.
  • ThayneilThayneil Members Posts: 530 ✭✭
    bazinky wrote:


    Good lord, those things sound like they were designed for me!



    Glad I decided to put off getting new irons off till the fall. Hopefully these will be more widely available by then.




    I reckon its better to play weak lofted irons with shafts that are stiffer than normal



    When the shaft kicks through impact you better have to kick straight and not exenuate any swing flaws.



    I lose balls to the left with weak or tip weak shafts



    Just my thoughts over the last weeks or so?
  • phatchrisrulesphatchrisrules Members Posts: 1,850 ✭✭
    nova6868 wrote:


    Sounds interesting. I wonder how different it would be from DG 120 x100 though. I guess this is a slightly different profile with a softer tip.




    DG120 and DG105 are supposed to be the same profile as the full weight DG. They do play a hair softer though, which is interesting, because the DGSL played stiffer than a standard DG. At any rate, I'd assume this is kind of a re-branding of the DG Pro, which was aimed to get the ball a bit higher with a touch more spin. It didn't stay around for very long for whatever reason, but it felt fantastic. IMO it was miles better feeling and performing than the DG120 and DG AMT, but obviously TT thought differently. I only saw it for about a year or so before it almost completely vanished.
    Taylormade M5 9* - Trying a couple of shafts
    Callaway Rogue SZ 13.5* - Diamana Thump 75F
    Callaway Rogue SZ 18* - Diamana Thump 85F
    Mizuno CLK 21* - Tensei CK Pro White 90H
    New Level 1031 Black 5-PW - Dynamic Gold 105 Black Onyx
    Ping Glide 2.0 Stealth 50/SS, 54/ES, 58/ES - Dynamic Gold 105 Black Onyx
    Bettinardi BB0 "Gotta Sting" Prototype 1 of 1 - Stability
  • jonn443jonn443 Jonnystx Members Posts: 4,596 ✭✭

    nova6868 wrote:


    Sounds interesting. I wonder how different it would be from DG 120 x100 though. I guess this is a slightly different profile with a softer tip.




    DG120 and DG105 are supposed to be the same profile as the full weight DG. They do play a hair softer though, which is interesting, because the DGSL played stiffer than a standard DG. At any rate, I'd assume this is kind of a re-branding of the DG Pro, which was aimed to get the ball a bit higher with a touch more spin. It didn't stay around for very long for whatever reason, but it felt fantastic. IMO it was miles better feeling and performing than the DG120 and DG AMT, but obviously TT thought differently. I only saw it for about a year or so before it almost completely vanished.




    I think the VPC, VP and J15CBs all were stock with those DG Pros...I greatly preferred the Modus 3 125.



    Remember the Black Gold TT shafts?
    AB TP 10.5*/ DI6X
    AB TP 3HL / 757
    XTD 19*/ Fubuki Ax
    DWS 24*/ VS Proto
    J15 CB 5-PW/ Modus 3 125S
    X-Forged MD (50*, 56* 60*)
    Spider Si/ SS Mid SLim 2.0
  • phatchrisrulesphatchrisrules Members Posts: 1,850 ✭✭
    jonn443 wrote:


    nova6868 wrote:


    Sounds interesting. I wonder how different it would be from DG 120 x100 though. I guess this is a slightly different profile with a softer tip.




    DG120 and DG105 are supposed to be the same profile as the full weight DG. They do play a hair softer though, which is interesting, because the DGSL played stiffer than a standard DG. At any rate, I'd assume this is kind of a re-branding of the DG Pro, which was aimed to get the ball a bit higher with a touch more spin. It didn't stay around for very long for whatever reason, but it felt fantastic. IMO it was miles better feeling and performing than the DG120 and DG AMT, but obviously TT thought differently. I only saw it for about a year or so before it almost completely vanished.




    I think the VPC, VP and J15CBs all were stock with those DG Pros...I greatly preferred the Modus 3 125.



    Remember the Black Gold TT shafts?




    It was stock in the Nike VPC, the Wilson V4, and the Bridgestone J15. As for no-charge stock, it was pretty much only available in Callaway as Srixon and Mizuno completely ignored it. It's a shame, it was a solid shaft. I haven't hit the 125, but I've tried the Super Peening Blue (which is supposedly the 125 profile) and it felt super boardy and heavy to me. I remember the Black Golds, same thing as the SPB, very stout and harsh (at least to me!)
    Taylormade M5 9* - Trying a couple of shafts
    Callaway Rogue SZ 13.5* - Diamana Thump 75F
    Callaway Rogue SZ 18* - Diamana Thump 85F
    Mizuno CLK 21* - Tensei CK Pro White 90H
    New Level 1031 Black 5-PW - Dynamic Gold 105 Black Onyx
    Ping Glide 2.0 Stealth 50/SS, 54/ES, 58/ES - Dynamic Gold 105 Black Onyx
    Bettinardi BB0 "Gotta Sting" Prototype 1 of 1 - Stability
  • Belmont148Belmont148 Members Posts: 1,487 ✭✭
    Wouldn't the same player that these are aimed at really benefit more from a set of graphite shafts? To me it just sounds like a steel shaft to try and meet the properties of graphite for those that have an issue going that route.
    Current Bag:

    G400 SFT 10* Aldila Rogue 125 Silver 60TS
    F8+ 4W- HZRDUS Black 75 Stiff
    Ping G25 3H and 4H Stock R Flex
    Ping I200 5-UW Project X LZ 5.5
    Glide Stealth 54SS and 58ES Project X LZ 5.5
    Scotty Studio Stainless Newport 2
  • SirHoselRocketSirHoselRocket Members Posts: 275
    Hit this against a nippon modus 120 X today....both clubs were built to identical specs. Only real difference was the feel/ feedback for me. Performance was very similar The feedback felt like a KBS Tour. Which to me gives a softer feed back compared to dynamic gold..... Which I prefer......But some else may feel something different.
  • 03trdblack03trdblack ClubWRX Posts: 1,847 ClubWRX
    edited Jun 13, 2018 #21
    These smell an awful lot like a rebranded Dynalight Gold with Sensicore shaft.
  • DRRicksDRRicks Banned Posts: 2,444 ✭✭
    03trdblack wrote:


    These smell an awful lot like a rebranded Dynalight Gold with Sensicore shaft.




    It’s sounds exactly NOTHING like that.
  • phatchrisrulesphatchrisrules Members Posts: 1,850 ✭✭
    Belmont148 wrote:


    Wouldn't the same player that these are aimed at really benefit more from a set of graphite shafts? To me it just sounds like a steel shaft to try and meet the properties of graphite for those that have an issue going that route.




    Not necessarily. Your heavy-weight graphites like Recoil 110 & 125, Aerotech 110 & 125, Fuji Pro 115, and Aldila RIP 115 are all low/low in design, for the player with an aggressive transition but wants to shave some weight. These sound like they are for your better player who needs something like a Modus 105 or XP105 in terms of launch characteristics, but overpowers them a bit due to how light they are. I mean we already have the Nippon 130, but it's so butt stiff it's insane...fits very few people really well. There's also the XP115, but it's a bit soft feeling for your "tour" speeds that these seem to be going after.



    In all honesty, it sounds like they are targeting the average KBS player with this...a little smoother, a touch higher launch and spin. They have to been losing a bit of money to KBS that they want to re-establish.
    Taylormade M5 9* - Trying a couple of shafts
    Callaway Rogue SZ 13.5* - Diamana Thump 75F
    Callaway Rogue SZ 18* - Diamana Thump 85F
    Mizuno CLK 21* - Tensei CK Pro White 90H
    New Level 1031 Black 5-PW - Dynamic Gold 105 Black Onyx
    Ping Glide 2.0 Stealth 50/SS, 54/ES, 58/ES - Dynamic Gold 105 Black Onyx
    Bettinardi BB0 "Gotta Sting" Prototype 1 of 1 - Stability
  • LithovtLithovt LithoVT Bristol, TNMembers Posts: 94 ✭✭
    edited Oct 9, 2018 #24
    Any updates on these shafts? Anyone tested or switched to these that can provide some feedback/comparisons to other shafts?
    Driver: Cobra F7+ 10.5 Graphite Design Tour AD TP-7 S
    Fairway: Cobra F7 (5/6) 18.5 Diamana D+ 80 Stiff
    Hybrid: Cobra F7 (3/4) 20.5, Diamana D+ 90 Stiff
    Irons: 4-pw Wilson FG Tour V6, TT DG AMT TI S400
    Wedges: 50 (Cleveland RTX4, stock s400 shaft), 56 (Vokey SM6 m-grind, stock wedge flex shaft), 62 (Vokey SM6, stock wedge flex shaft)
    Putter Ping Anser 2 35"
  • elwhippyelwhippy Members Posts: 3,114 ✭✭
    I am interested. PX shafts and modern tour quality balls equal low flight for me. Used a Nike PD on Sunday and got a much better trajectory. These shafts could be the answer. TM demo day this week so will ask their fitter if he knows when they will offered to retail.
  • trhodetrhode Fitter / Builder Members Posts: 1,961 ✭✭
    These are part of the PFC program, so they might not come to retail in any OEM any time soon. I have them in R,S,and X demo's. They launch similar to the XP115's. Definitely feel stiffer in the handle. Not sure about the VSS tech making a difference for my feel. Not really sure what to compare them to. Maybe a heavier PXi???
  • beluga99beluga99 I can't avenge my partner's death with this pea shooter Members Posts: 901 ✭✭
    Interesting review by TXG which shows not a lot of difference for the tester between the Modus 120 x and the Elevate x. Test before you buy is the takeaway for me.



    G400
    917 F2
    Anser 18 + 23
    Fli-Hi
    919T 6-P
    Glide 51, 56, 60 ES
    Odyssey
  • PapaJohickPapaJohick ShortKnocker Bombs Charleston, SCMembers Posts: 4,475 ✭✭
    I will have a set soon in some jpx 919 tours
    Forever Changing at this point.......
  • rymail00rymail00 Members Posts: 6,704 ✭✭
    beluga99 wrote:


    Interesting review by TXG which shows not a lot of difference for the tester between the Modus 120 x and the Elevate x. Test before you buy is the takeaway for me.



    https://www.youtube....h?v=ITk-GbBJY90




    Yeah if I remember correctly both Modus and Elevate launched the same but Modus 120 actually spun more than the Elevate (like mentioned above, for the guy in the review).
    rymail00 2018 WITB http://www.golfwrx.c...witb-pic-heavy/

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    Titleist 917 F3 15* D+ 80s
    Titleist 915H 21* D+ 90s
    Titleist 915H 24* D+ 90s
    Titleist AP2 718, 5-50* Steelfiber i95s
    Scratch TD DW 54* 58* KBS HiRev
    Odyssey Metal X Milled 330M (current gamer)

    Ping Scottsdale TR B60
    TP Mills Heritage 349g
    Byron Morgan 006 355g
    Byron Morgan Makers Proof #4/5 solid copper
    C&L CL1 368g
    Scotty Cameron Newport Studio Style
  • JagpilotohioJagpilotohio 45+ inch drivers are evil. Columbus, OHMembers Posts: 7,223 ✭✭
    Never sell to this crowd.



    Nearly Everyone on this site seems to think they hit the ball too high and spin too much.



    Very few people that I play with seem to understand what the height of a well struck iron should look like.



    Most stronger more accomplished players should hit their irons with at least a 100 foot Apex. That’s up there.
    9.5* Cobra LTD, Old school Grafalloy Blue, 43.5"
    14* Cally 815 alpha fuji 665 X 42"
    16* Cally 815 alpha fuji 665 X, 41.5" (set to 17*)
    19* Titleist 816 H2 fuji 8.8X TS 40.0"
    4-7 2016 Hogan PTx, KBS Tour V, 120X.  
    Ping i210 8 & 9 Proto 125 F5 hardstepped 1x.
    Ping glide 2 46-12, 50-12, 54-14 (at 55) stealth, Vokey SM6 60M (61). Wedges Recoil Proto 125 F5
    33.5" Ghost spider slant neck.
    Srixon Z-star XV
    Jones Trouper Bag
  • QuigleyDUQuigleyDU Members Posts: 6,580 ✭✭


    Never sell to this crowd.



    Nearly Everyone on this site seems to think they hit the ball too high and spin too much.



    Very few people that I play with seem to understand what the height of a well struck iron should look like.



    Most stronger more accomplished players should hit their irons with at least a 100 foot Apex. That’s up there.




    Not the highest spin player right here.
    Driver: Callaway Epic SubZero 3D 10.5*, Fujikura Ventus 7X
    Fairway: NIKE VAPOR 13*
    3-4 IRON: MIZZY MP18MMC FLIHI
    5-9 IRONS: MP5 DG AMT X100
    WEDGES; CLEVELAND RTX4: 48, 53, 58, 64
    PUTTER; Directed Force 2.1
    BALL; various, ask me that day.
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