True Temper Elevate - Iron Shafts

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Diamana_StingerDiamana_Stinger  285WRX Points: 117Handicap: +3.2Members Posts: 285 Greens
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So it looks like there is a new iron shaft on tour, that supposed to help launch higher and land steeper with the new ultra low spin balls. I think they are lighter than a dg-x100 as well by around 9/10 grams, so that puts them at what right around 120grams?



hopefully we can get some more info on these asap...



*there are pics on true tempers instagram
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JBeam J3 Tour 10* - Syncagraphite Loop Prototype IP X
A Grind FW #3 14* - Tensei Pro White 80 TX
PRGR Tune 01 CB #3 Iron
Kyoei Prototype MB #4-PW
(Nippon LSL Proto X Flex in 3-PW)
Wedge Rotation; Crazy, GrindStudio, SDJ 115, Artisan
(Shimada Tour Wedge Black Shaft)
(DG Onyx Black Tour Issue DGS400)
Benock Okuda Putter (JSS/SUS316L) 009 head shape
Elite Y360*SH Black/Black
Elite Geron Type N2 Putter Black
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    Do we know what other flex profiles will be available or will it only come in x100’s?
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    GC70 wrote:


    Do we know what other flex profiles will be available or will it only come in x100's?




    I think there is "S" and "X" available on tour right now, but I dont think they are using the weighting like s300,s400,x100 etc. on these.
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    JBeam J3 Tour 10* - Syncagraphite Loop Prototype IP X
    A Grind FW #3 14* - Tensei Pro White 80 TX
    PRGR Tune 01 CB #3 Iron
    Kyoei Prototype MB #4-PW
    (Nippon LSL Proto X Flex in 3-PW)
    Wedge Rotation; Crazy, GrindStudio, SDJ 115, Artisan
    (Shimada Tour Wedge Black Shaft)
    (DG Onyx Black Tour Issue DGS400)
    Benock Okuda Putter (JSS/SUS316L) 009 head shape
    Elite Y360*SH Black/Black
    Elite Geron Type N2 Putter Black
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    Vss on the band=vibration dampening? I hope so!
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    I hope they release some more info on how the shaft helps with decent angle and whatever else they are claiming...
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  • Diamana_StingerDiamana_Stinger  285WRX Points: 117Handicap: +3.2Members Posts: 285 Greens
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    I found this press release, courtesy Jonathan Wall/PGA Tour;



    MEMPHIS, Tenn. — The introduction of solid-core construction golf balls has been a massive benefit for players on the PGA TOUR — particularly when it comes to the driver where low spin qualities equate to more distance off the tee.


    But decreasing spin with the driver can sometimes come at a cost, especially in the iron department for those players who don't fall in the high swing speed category.


    "We've seen a lot of guys, as they are going to low-spin golf balls to reduce the spin with the driver, they are struggling with the launch on their irons," said Don Brown, Project X's director of innovation. "We noticed there was a small hole in our lineup where we could help a player get the ball in the air."


    The solution is True Temper's Elevate shaft. The new part comes in at 121 grams, roughly nine grams lighter than the popular Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100 part.


    Going lighter can help boost swing speed, however, True Temper wanted to fix launch at the same time. Engineers were able to add an additional two degrees of launch via a thinner .370-inch diameter section just below the last step — Dynamic Gold is .395 inches — that activates the tip section.


    "During testing, the TOUR guys with the lower clubhead speeds are seeing the benefits of what this shaft can do," said True Temper Tour rep Paul Loegering. "Getting the apex and landing angle optimized are critical to ensuring the ball isn't spinning too much but is still stopping on the green."


    Loegering mentioned that while players are going to get more height with Elevate, it's designed to not balloon on shots that need to be flighted through the wind.


    "If a player is challenged getting that height, he's going to get more elevation but not too much spin," Loegering said. "It keeps things in a good sweet spot so you can still flight the ball if necessary and not have to worry about it spinning out of control."




    Another new addition is a Vibration Suppression System (VSS) housed inside the shaft that helps reduce unwanted vibrations at impact. Similar to the company's Sensicore insert, it's roughly 75 percent lighter than its predecessor.


    "The VSS is a benefit for the pro and the amateur," Brown said. "It was built for Elevate but can be applied to other products we're working on at the moment."


    True Temper Tour reps confirmed a 95-gram part is also in the works. For now, the shaft is available at 121 grams in two flexes (S and X) on TOUR.
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    JBeam J3 Tour 10* - Syncagraphite Loop Prototype IP X
    A Grind FW #3 14* - Tensei Pro White 80 TX
    PRGR Tune 01 CB #3 Iron
    Kyoei Prototype MB #4-PW
    (Nippon LSL Proto X Flex in 3-PW)
    Wedge Rotation; Crazy, GrindStudio, SDJ 115, Artisan
    (Shimada Tour Wedge Black Shaft)
    (DG Onyx Black Tour Issue DGS400)
    Benock Okuda Putter (JSS/SUS316L) 009 head shape
    Elite Y360*SH Black/Black
    Elite Geron Type N2 Putter Black
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  • GoIrish17GoIrish17 Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio  6207WRX Points: 989Handicap: 8Members Posts: 6,207 Titanium Tees
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    From the above, it sounds like this shaft is going to fit a very small niche of tour pros but would be very beneficial to many amateurs who are better golfers without high clubhead speed.
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    3wd: Titleist TS2 15° (C1) | Diamana D+ LTD 70
    Hybrid: Callaway Apex 18°| AD-DI 95
    Irons: Mizuno MP 20 HMB 4 iron | AD-DI 95 / MP 20 MMC 5-PW | PX Catalyst 100
    Wedges: Vokey SM7 raw 48°F (Handground S), 54°S, 58°V | KBS 610
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  • nova6868nova6868  4894WRX Points: 279Handicap: 2.1Members Posts: 4,894 Titanium Tees
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    Sounds interesting. I wonder how different it would be from DG 120 x100 though. I guess this is a slightly different profile with a softer tip.
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    I'm listening TT...
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  • johnnylongballz72johnnylongballz72  582WRX Points: 57Members Posts: 582 Golden Tee
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    I don't have to wait for a fitter to tell me that this will be perfect for me. These will be right up my alley!
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  • mesegrnmesegrn mesegrn Georgia 1152WRX Points: 132Members Posts: 1,152 Platinum Tees
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    Sounds like everything I want in a shaft! I was going to build a set of Project x 5.5 with wooden dowels in the tip, but upon reading this I think I'll wait. I like this idea True Temper!!
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  • bazinkybazinky  1708WRX Points: 187Members Posts: 1,708 Platinum Tees
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    Good lord, those things sound like they were designed for me!



    Glad I decided to put off getting new irons off till the fall. Hopefully these will be more widely available by then.
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    i want a set.
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    bazinky wrote:


    Good lord, those things sound like they were designed for me!



    Glad I decided to put off getting new irons off till the fall. Hopefully these will be more widely available by then.




    I reckon its better to play weak lofted irons with shafts that are stiffer than normal



    When the shaft kicks through impact you better have to kick straight and not exenuate any swing flaws.



    I lose balls to the left with weak or tip weak shafts



    Just my thoughts over the last weeks or so?
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    nova6868 wrote:


    Sounds interesting. I wonder how different it would be from DG 120 x100 though. I guess this is a slightly different profile with a softer tip.




    DG120 and DG105 are supposed to be the same profile as the full weight DG. They do play a hair softer though, which is interesting, because the DGSL played stiffer than a standard DG. At any rate, I'd assume this is kind of a re-branding of the DG Pro, which was aimed to get the ball a bit higher with a touch more spin. It didn't stay around for very long for whatever reason, but it felt fantastic. IMO it was miles better feeling and performing than the DG120 and DG AMT, but obviously TT thought differently. I only saw it for about a year or so before it almost completely vanished.
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    nova6868 wrote:


    Sounds interesting. I wonder how different it would be from DG 120 x100 though. I guess this is a slightly different profile with a softer tip.




    DG120 and DG105 are supposed to be the same profile as the full weight DG. They do play a hair softer though, which is interesting, because the DGSL played stiffer than a standard DG. At any rate, I'd assume this is kind of a re-branding of the DG Pro, which was aimed to get the ball a bit higher with a touch more spin. It didn't stay around for very long for whatever reason, but it felt fantastic. IMO it was miles better feeling and performing than the DG120 and DG AMT, but obviously TT thought differently. I only saw it for about a year or so before it almost completely vanished.




    I think the VPC, VP and J15CBs all were stock with those DG Pros...I greatly preferred the Modus 3 125.



    Remember the Black Gold TT shafts?
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  • phatchrisrulesphatchrisrules Southern Ontario, Canada 2130WRX Points: 391Handicap: 6.5Unregistered Posts: 2,130 Platinum Tees
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    jonn443 wrote:


    nova6868 wrote:


    Sounds interesting. I wonder how different it would be from DG 120 x100 though. I guess this is a slightly different profile with a softer tip.




    DG120 and DG105 are supposed to be the same profile as the full weight DG. They do play a hair softer though, which is interesting, because the DGSL played stiffer than a standard DG. At any rate, I'd assume this is kind of a re-branding of the DG Pro, which was aimed to get the ball a bit higher with a touch more spin. It didn't stay around for very long for whatever reason, but it felt fantastic. IMO it was miles better feeling and performing than the DG120 and DG AMT, but obviously TT thought differently. I only saw it for about a year or so before it almost completely vanished.




    I think the VPC, VP and J15CBs all were stock with those DG Pros...I greatly preferred the Modus 3 125.



    Remember the Black Gold TT shafts?




    It was stock in the Nike VPC, the Wilson V4, and the Bridgestone J15. As for no-charge stock, it was pretty much only available in Callaway as Srixon and Mizuno completely ignored it. It's a shame, it was a solid shaft. I haven't hit the 125, but I've tried the Super Peening Blue (which is supposedly the 125 profile) and it felt super boardy and heavy to me. I remember the Black Golds, same thing as the SPB, very stout and harsh (at least to me!)
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  • Belmont148Belmont148  1508WRX Points: 92Members Posts: 1,508 Platinum Tees
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    Wouldn't the same player that these are aimed at really benefit more from a set of graphite shafts? To me it just sounds like a steel shaft to try and meet the properties of graphite for those that have an issue going that route.
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  • SirHoselRocketSirHoselRocket  275WRX Points: 1Members Posts: 275 Greens
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    Hit this against a nippon modus 120 X today....both clubs were built to identical specs. Only real difference was the feel/ feedback for me. Performance was very similar The feedback felt like a KBS Tour. Which to me gives a softer feed back compared to dynamic gold..... Which I prefer......But some else may feel something different.
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  • 03trdblack03trdblack Wake Forest, NC 2069WRX Points: 307Handicap: 1.0ClubWRX Posts: 2,069 ClubWRX
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    These smell an awful lot like a rebranded Dynalight Gold with Sensicore shaft.
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    03trdblack wrote:


    These smell an awful lot like a rebranded Dynalight Gold with Sensicore shaft.




    It’s sounds exactly NOTHING like that.
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  • phatchrisrulesphatchrisrules Southern Ontario, Canada 2130WRX Points: 391Handicap: 6.5Unregistered Posts: 2,130 Platinum Tees
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    Belmont148 wrote:


    Wouldn't the same player that these are aimed at really benefit more from a set of graphite shafts? To me it just sounds like a steel shaft to try and meet the properties of graphite for those that have an issue going that route.




    Not necessarily. Your heavy-weight graphites like Recoil 110 & 125, Aerotech 110 & 125, Fuji Pro 115, and Aldila RIP 115 are all low/low in design, for the player with an aggressive transition but wants to shave some weight. These sound like they are for your better player who needs something like a Modus 105 or XP105 in terms of launch characteristics, but overpowers them a bit due to how light they are. I mean we already have the Nippon 130, but it's so butt stiff it's insane...fits very few people really well. There's also the XP115, but it's a bit soft feeling for your "tour" speeds that these seem to be going after.



    In all honesty, it sounds like they are targeting the average KBS player with this...a little smoother, a touch higher launch and spin. They have to been losing a bit of money to KBS that they want to re-establish.
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    Nickent Genex 3DX 21* - Dynamic Gold SL
    Titleist 660 4-P - Dynamic Gold
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    Scotty Cameron Teryllium

  • LithovtLithovt LithoVT Bristol, TN 102WRX Points: 36Handicap: 10.3Members Posts: 102 Fairways
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    Any updates on these shafts? Anyone tested or switched to these that can provide some feedback/comparisons to other shafts?
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  • elwhippyelwhippy  3377WRX Points: 334Members Posts: 3,377 Titanium Tees
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    I am interested. PX shafts and modern tour quality balls equal low flight for me. Used a Nike PD on Sunday and got a much better trajectory. These shafts could be the answer. TM demo day this week so will ask their fitter if he knows when they will offered to retail.
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  • trhodetrhode Fitter / Builder  2033WRX Points: 159Members Posts: 2,033 Platinum Tees
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    These are part of the PFC program, so they might not come to retail in any OEM any time soon. I have them in R,S,and X demo's. They launch similar to the XP115's. Definitely feel stiffer in the handle. Not sure about the VSS tech making a difference for my feel. Not really sure what to compare them to. Maybe a heavier PXi???
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  • beluga99beluga99 If Matrix was here, he'd laugh too...  998WRX Points: 164Handicap: 4.7Members Posts: 998 Golden Tee
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    Interesting review by TXG which shows not a lot of difference for the tester between the Modus 120 x and the Elevate x. Test before you buy is the takeaway for me.



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    I will have a set soon in some jpx 919 tours
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    beluga99 wrote:


    Interesting review by TXG which shows not a lot of difference for the tester between the Modus 120 x and the Elevate x. Test before you buy is the takeaway for me.



    https://www.youtube....h?v=ITk-GbBJY90




    Yeah if I remember correctly both Modus and Elevate launched the same but Modus 120 actually spun more than the Elevate (like mentioned above, for the guy in the review).
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    Never sell to this crowd.



    Nearly Everyone on this site seems to think they hit the ball too high and spin too much.



    Very few people that I play with seem to understand what the height of a well struck iron should look like.



    Most stronger more accomplished players should hit their irons with at least a 100 foot Apex. That’s up there.
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    Never sell to this crowd.



    Nearly Everyone on this site seems to think they hit the ball too high and spin too much.



    Very few people that I play with seem to understand what the height of a well struck iron should look like.



    Most stronger more accomplished players should hit their irons with at least a 100 foot Apex. That’s up there.




    Not the highest spin player right here.
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