Authenticity of Miura wedges

marks21marks21 Members Posts: 162 ✭✭
Can anyone help fill me in on verifying the authenticity of Miura wedges? Should there be serial numbers? The hose of the wedge says genuine, shafts have no marking except the True temper stamp, the seller states they are the S300 shaft.
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  • halliedoghalliedog Members Posts: 2,378 ✭✭
    As long as it says "Genuine" on the hose, you should be good (the fakes usually say "Geniune" or "Jenuine"). Just don't pay with Friends and Family.
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  • GoIrish17GoIrish17 Members Posts: 5,668 ✭✭
    marks21 wrote:


    Can anyone help fill me in on verifying the authenticity of Miura wedges? Should there be serial numbers? The hose of the wedge says genuine, shafts have no marking except the True temper stamp, the seller states they are the S300 shaft.




    There's no definitive "tell" to any counterfeit product generally, besides the well known and obvious ones. You have to share pictures and info of a particular example, or else you're just rolling the dice.



    Your best bet if you don't want to/ care to put in the effort of doing your diligence for every product you're looking at and and every seller you're considering - buy from a reputable seller, consider buying new, and never take a chance on "too good to be true".
  • marks21marks21 Members Posts: 162 ✭✭
    edited Jun 11, 2018 #4
    They’re for sale through local Craigslist. I am meeting the seller Wednesday at a local course to get a look at them. I have a buddy who has a set, I’ll take a look at his to get a better idea of what to look for. I appreciate the help!
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  • GoIrish17GoIrish17 Members Posts: 5,668 ✭✭
    marks21 wrote:


    They're for sale through local Craigslist. I am meeting the seller Wednesday at a local course to get a look at them. I have a buddy who has a set, I'll take a look at his to get a better idea of what to look for. I appreciate the help!




    Why not just share the pictures here? If they’re decent pictures you’ll have your answer in minutes. If they’re not decent pictures, you’ll be given the good advice to get better pictures.
  • BB28403BB28403 Members Posts: 3,734 ✭✭
    edited Jun 11, 2018 #6
    marks21 wrote:
    They’re for sale through local Craigslist. I am meeting the seller Wednesday at a local course to get a look at them. I have a buddy who has a set, I’ll take a look at his to get a better idea of what to look for. I appreciate the help!




    Under the circumstances where someone inspects something in person it is highly unlikely they are fake.



    Now online they might try to get one over on you.



    And just FYI Miura have a dull shine to them

    And a very solid sound if you tap them. A very pure metal, ground by mr. Miura or his son themselves.
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  • GoIrish17GoIrish17 Members Posts: 5,668 ✭✭
    BB28403 wrote:

    marks21 wrote:
    They’re for sale through local Craigslist. I am meeting the seller Wednesday at a local course to get a look at them. I have a buddy who has a set, I’ll take a look at his to get a better idea of what to look for. I appreciate the help!




    Under the circumstances where someone inspects something in person it is highly unlikely they are fake.



    Now online they might try to get one over on you.




    Suggesting that Craigslist (or sites like it) is safer from counterfeits because the transaction is face-to-face is absolutely horrible advice. In this situation and for anyone reading who may encounter something similar in the future.
  • marks21marks21 Members Posts: 162 ✭✭
    had him send me some addt photos

    let mew know your thoughts. asking 375 for the set. seems like a good deal if legit
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    Toulon Portland H3
    Titleist ProV1X
  • BB28403BB28403 Members Posts: 3,734 ✭✭
    GoIrish17 wrote:
    BB28403 wrote:

    marks21 wrote:
    They’re for sale through local Craigslist. I am meeting the seller Wednesday at a local course to get a look at them. I have a buddy who has a set, I’ll take a look at his to get a better idea of what to look for. I appreciate the help!




    Under the circumstances where someone inspects something in person it is highly unlikely they are fake.



    Now online they might try to get one over on you.




    Suggesting that Craigslist (or sites like it) is safer from counterfeits because the transaction is face-to-face is absolutely horrible advice. In this situation and for anyone reading who may encounter something similar in the future.




    It’s not really advice , it is common sense . Manufacturers and dealers of fake products usually hide within the safe confines of the internet.

    Why? You know where the guy lives and you could contact the local authorities, not to mention state authorities.

    You have to think in common sense here, if someone is not being shady and they are being open with you. Then they more than likely are being honest .

    If they will not answer your emails or texts then you have clues that this person is not to be trusted.
  • BB28403BB28403 Members Posts: 3,734 ✭✭
    edited Jun 11, 2018 #10
    marks21 wrote:
    had him send me some addt photos

    let mew know your thoughts. asking 375 for the set. seems like a good deal if legit




    So hmmm interesting...



    #1 all Miura wedges made after 2010 should have a tiny “SL” after the “Miura”



    So either those are fake or non confirming according to the USGA 2010 rule



    In 2010 the USGA ruled that players were having a too easy time getting out of the rough. It was not penalizing them enough. So they remade wedge specifications.



    After this Miura added the “SL”



    “ = quotes



    Look on eBay you can see examples
  • GoIrish17GoIrish17 Members Posts: 5,668 ✭✭
    BB28403 wrote:

    GoIrish17 wrote:
    BB28403 wrote:

    marks21 wrote:
    They’re for sale through local Craigslist. I am meeting the seller Wednesday at a local course to get a look at them. I have a buddy who has a set, I’ll take a look at his to get a better idea of what to look for. I appreciate the help!




    Under the circumstances where someone inspects something in person it is highly unlikely they are fake.



    Now online they might try to get one over on you.




    Suggesting that Craigslist (or sites like it) is safer from counterfeits because the transaction is face-to-face is absolutely horrible advice. In this situation and for anyone reading who may encounter something similar in the future.




    It’s not really advice , it is common sense . Manufacturers and dealers of fake products usually hide within the safe confines of the internet.

    Why? You know where the guy lives and you could contact the local authorities, not to mention state authorities.

    You have to think in common sense here, if someone is not being shady and they are being open with you. Then they more than likely are being honest .

    If they will not answer your emails or texts then you have clues that this person is not to be trusted.




    It's terrible advice and garbage common sense. You're operating under the assumption that every single counterfeit club being sold out there is being done knowingly by the producer or someone close to them. If you want to assume that internet flea markets such as Craigslist, Offer Up, etc. are populated with upright citizens selling 100% authentic product purchased only from authorized retailers, that's on you. To everyone else out there, those sites are no more safe than eBay and such. Use just as much caution.
  • BB28403BB28403 Members Posts: 3,734 ✭✭
    GoIrish17 wrote:
    BB28403 wrote:

    GoIrish17 wrote:
    BB28403 wrote:

    marks21 wrote:
    They’re for sale through local Craigslist. I am meeting the seller Wednesday at a local course to get a look at them. I have a buddy who has a set, I’ll take a look at his to get a better idea of what to look for. I appreciate the help!




    Under the circumstances where someone inspects something in person it is highly unlikely they are fake.



    Now online they might try to get one over on you.




    Suggesting that Craigslist (or sites like it) is safer from counterfeits because the transaction is face-to-face is absolutely horrible advice. In this situation and for anyone reading who may encounter something similar in the future.




    It’s not really advice , it is common sense . Manufacturers and dealers of fake products usually hide within the safe confines of the internet.

    Why? You know where the guy lives and you could contact the local authorities, not to mention state authorities.

    You have to think in common sense here, if someone is not being shady and they are being open with you. Then they more than likely are being honest .

    If they will not answer your emails or texts then you have clues that this person is not to be trusted.




    It's terrible advice and garbage common sense. You're operating under the assumption that every single counterfeit club being sold out there is being done knowingly by the producer or someone close to them. If you want to assume that internet flea markets such as Craigslist, Offer Up, etc. are populated with upright citizens selling 100% authentic product purchased only from authorized retailers, that's on you. To everyone else out there, those sites are no more safe than eBay and such. Use just as much caution.




    Seems like you have an axe to grind. You can be scared of the world if you like. I have had great success buying used items.



    Stand up on your couch and yell into the golf forum if it makes you feel better. Lol



    To the OP, I would avoid those miuras .
  • DrJetDrJet Members Posts: 284 ✭✭
    2nd swing has used Miura wedges at a good price. I would suggest you take a look at the site before taking plunges.
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  • endyendy Members Posts: 3,200 ✭✭
    Was going to add, I picked up an identical set to this for less than $300 in similar condition
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  • BB28403BB28403 Members Posts: 3,734 ✭✭
    edited Jun 16, 2018 #15
    They either fake or non conforming . They have to have SL in a little circle now a days. A lot of fake china crap is coming over with Miura stamped on it
  • kaaayelllkaaayelll Members Posts: 802 ✭✭
    edited Jun 18, 2018 #16
    BB28... Your information is partly correct. Miura put the SL stamp primarily on models that pre-dated the score lines rule to denote conformity (vs unstamped, older, non-conforming versions). This includes Tournament Blades, Baby Blades (formerly stamped similarly to TB prior to taking in the 1957 moniker), and several other models. More recently introduced models never had the SL stamp because there were no older versions that might establish confusion. So, MB001, MC-501, Tour Wedge, the New Wedge Series (subject of the OP’s question), and several others never had the SL stamp (see below for examples). The wedges pictured by the OP look real to me.



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  • BB28403BB28403 Members Posts: 3,734 ✭✭
    Ok yeah, I’m def no expert. Try to find a dealer of Miura to spend your hard earned money at.

    Chip Usher out of Savannah is knowledgeable and has been a Miura dealer a long time. Also I think Continental Golf in Raleigh, NC is a dealer.
  • 1t2golf1t2golf Marshals Posts: 3,238 mod
    They look authentic to me.



    You can always contact Miura directly. They've been pretty good about answering my inquiries in the past.
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  • themule08themule08 RochesterMembers Posts: 42 ✭✭
    So I have 4 wedges built by usher golf.. 46,52,56,60..



    Buy from a builder.. I bought used and was not happy..



    As for real and fake hit one of your friends and then hit theirs.. the feel should be identical..



    If the faces are beat up just buy new.. I bought 2 and then 1 and 1 in last 3 years.. they are 210 shipped anyway you shaft them..



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  • BB28403BB28403 Members Posts: 3,734 ✭✭
    themule08 wrote:
    So I have 4 wedges built by usher golf.. 46,52,56,60..



    Buy from a builder.. I bought used and was not happy..



    As for real and fake hit one of your friends and then hit theirs.. the feel should be identical..



    If the faces are beat up just buy new.. I bought 2 and then 1 and 1 in last 3 years.. they are 210 shipped anyway you shaft them..




    That’s really not a bad deal at all. How do the Miura wedges perform versus off the rack from your experience? What did you notice?



    If you don’t mind answering. I use Cleveland RTx 2.0 atm
  • kaaayelllkaaayelll Members Posts: 802 ✭✭
    themule08 wrote:


    As for real and fake hit one of your friends and then hit theirs.. the feel should be identical..


    If they have the same shafts, etc...
  • themule08themule08 RochesterMembers Posts: 42 ✭✭
    kaaayelll wrote:
    themule08 wrote:


    As for real and fake hit one of your friends and then hit theirs.. the feel should be identical..


    If they have the same shafts, etc...
    The feel of the face is the same, I have got multiple with different shafts, but the face feels the same at contact.. i can tell around the green chipping best
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  • themule08themule08 RochesterMembers Posts: 42 ✭✭
    BB28403 wrote:
    themule08 wrote:
    So I have 4 wedges built by usher golf.. 46,52,56,60..



    Buy from a builder.. I bought used and was not happy..



    As for real and fake hit one of your friends and then hit theirs.. the feel should be identical..



    If the faces are beat up just buy new.. I bought 2 and then 1 and 1 in last 3 years.. they are 210 shipped anyway you shaft them..




    That’s really not a bad deal at all. How do the Miura wedges perform versus off the rack from your experience? What did you notice?



    If you don’t mind answering. I use Cleveland RTx 2.0 atm
    I will never use another wedge.. so hard to explain, but the feel is fantastic! I use k grind on 52,56,60 my 46 is basically a c grind..



    They are so smooth.. buy one and give it a try..if you dont like it they are easy to sell. You will sell your Clevelands and wish you had the cash for the baby blades
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  • themule08themule08 RochesterMembers Posts: 42 ✭✭
    This wedge is from usher golf, have 3 others.. hosel says genuine as well.e4ba56cb79bf4b0d3cf0ea36ab5d24e6.jpg
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  • nitramnitram Take Dead Aim Members Posts: 5,177 ✭✭
    They're real. Got get 'em, hit 'em, and enjoy 'eml
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  • BB28403BB28403 Members Posts: 3,734 ✭✭
    themule08 wrote:
    This wedge is from usher golf, have 3 others.. hosel says genuine as well.e4ba56cb79bf4b0d3cf0ea36ab5d24e6.jpg




    Oh mannn that’s pretty
  • BB28403BB28403 Members Posts: 3,734 ✭✭
    edited Jun 21, 2018 #27
    themule08 wrote:
    This wedge is from usher golf, have 3 others.. hosel says genuine as well.e4ba56cb79bf4b0d3cf0ea36ab5d24e6.jpg




    You made me take the leap! Got an older style brand new Miura wedge from the Ush man. Just to play around with
  • themule08themule08 RochesterMembers Posts: 42 ✭✭
    BB28403 wrote:
    themule08 wrote:
    This wedge is from usher golf, have 3 others.. hosel says genuine as well.e4ba56cb79bf4b0d3cf0ea36ab5d24e6.jpg




    You made me take the leap! Got an older style brand new Miura wedge from the Ush man. Just to play around with
    I love him due to the fact i can buy a head, head and shaft, or whole club with grip..



    My 46 is non chrome and is turning bronze.. but has the same feel as my wedges.. enjoy I will never play another wedge in my life

    BB28403 wrote:
    themule08 wrote:
    This wedge is from usher golf, have 3 others.. hosel says genuine as well.e4ba56cb79bf4b0d3cf0ea36ab5d24e6.jpg




    You made me take the leap! Got an older style brand new Miura wedge from the Ush man. Just to play around with
    Please post picture too!
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  • St JimmySt Jimmy Members Posts: 421 ✭✭
    How about these:







    Real or fake?
    Ping G400
    Ping G SFT 3W
    Mizuno HM 4 iron bent to 19 degrees
    Miura CB-57 3-PW
    Miura Y Grind 51
    Miura K Grind 56
    Scotty Golo 3
  • D0ch0l1d4yD0ch0l1d4y Members Posts: 1,047 ✭✭
    St Jimmy wrote:


    How about these:







    Real or fake?




    Looks like a legit 2018 wedge that had black paintfill added.
  • St JimmySt Jimmy Members Posts: 421 ✭✭
    D0ch0l1d4y wrote:

    St Jimmy wrote:


    How about these:







    Real or fake?




    Looks like a legit 2018 wedge that had black paintfill added.




    Thank you.

    I was worried about the Miura on the hosel instead of forged or genuine.
    Ping G400
    Ping G SFT 3W
    Mizuno HM 4 iron bent to 19 degrees
    Miura CB-57 3-PW
    Miura Y Grind 51
    Miura K Grind 56
    Scotty Golo 3
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