Tiger Woods' new T/M wedges - shot @ 2018 US Open

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  • king6king6 Members Posts: 167 ✭✭
    The 60* looks like a vokey l-grind to me!
  • swgolf12swgolf12 Members Posts: 924 ✭✭
    Interesting that someone mentioned TM gave him wedges with blank faces to have the grooves cut into, and that the faces of his wedges look like someone took a groove sharpener to with the scratching extending from each groove out onto the toe.
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  • CallawayLeftyCallawayLefty Lefty Boomers Posts: 1,997 ✭✭
    56 = Artisan. Qmany has that same grind on his 60 and it makes me get all warm and fuzzy every time I see it. I'm all about that shallow bevel. Praying that Artisan ends up with lefty heads!!!!
  • mackepamackepa #TheWRX Members Posts: 3,597 ✭✭
    swgolf12 wrote:


    Interesting that someone mentioned TM gave him wedges with blank faces to have the grooves cut into, and that the faces of his wedges look like someone took a groove sharpener to with the scratching extending from each groove out onto the toe.




    That’s definitely not what those lines are from. Every raw wedge I’ve ever owned has had marks like that from bunker shots
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  • seve1972seve1972 Members Posts: 1,052 ✭✭
    Those tour velvet cords look nothing like the ones I get image/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />..... I wish they would release these....(ones with less cord)..
  • ExzaklyExzakly ClubWRX Posts: 412 ClubWRX
    Artisan does have lefty heads. Will be released later this year to the gen public. I had MT make one for my buddy.
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  • ignitewvuignitewvu Members Posts: 2,061 ✭✭
    Those arn't TaylorMade Wedges those are Mike Taylor Wedges...........PERIOD.



    I 100% agree with the guy who said TM sent Blanks to Artisan.......
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  • GoIrish17GoIrish17 Members Posts: 5,650 ✭✭
    mackepa wrote:

    swgolf12 wrote:


    Interesting that someone mentioned TM gave him wedges with blank faces to have the grooves cut into, and that the faces of his wedges look like someone took a groove sharpener to with the scratching extending from each groove out onto the toe.




    That’s definitely not what those lines are from. Every raw wedge I’ve ever owned has had marks like that from bunker shots




    Beat me to it.



    I wish TM would release that grind on his 60° in their lob wedges.
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  • 2putttom2putttom # 1 Oregon Duck fan Members Posts: 10,003 ✭✭
    those wear marks are a groove to high ....tighten it up Tiger..lol
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  • nogamejamesnogamejames Members Posts: 1,171 ✭✭
    edited Jun 12, 2018 #11
    Maybe TM will do this but they would make a pile of money if they released a TW grind milled wedge. Even if it was just a 60 Degree, money being left on the table.
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  • mctrees02mctrees02 Lefty Boomers Posts: 1,278 ✭✭


    Maybe TM will do this but they would make a pile of money if they released a TW grind milled wedge. Even if it was just a 60 Degree, money being left on the table.
    considering it’s not their grind, they would have to pay Artisan to do the heavy lifting
  • TheMoneyShotTheMoneyShot ***FIGJAM/Twirl of Doom*** Members Posts: 30,590 ✭✭
    TW grinds. Release the beasts!!!!
  • TinkerGolfManTinkerGolfMan Tinker Golf Man Members Posts: 1,239 ✭✭
    Is this a Mike Taylor situation?
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  • CallawayLeftyCallawayLefty Lefty Boomers Posts: 1,997 ✭✭


    Is this a Mike Taylor situation?




    As noted above, the grind on the 56 is unmistakably Mike Taylor, so I would assume all the rest are as well. It's the coolest grind I've ever seen. I'll be showing up in Ft. Worth the minute they tell me they'll allow me to.
  • 1jcwallace1jcwallace Members Posts: 169 ✭✭
    It's still crazy to me that he jumps from a PW to a 56 and then to 60 with nothing in between the PW and 56. It also baffles me he plays so much bounce but then again, those grinds are truly amazing so.... I would also have to agree those are Mike Taylor wedges with some TM stamping on them.
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  • Diamana_StingerDiamana_Stinger Members Posts: 276 ✭✭
    1jcwallace wrote:


    It's still crazy to me that he jumps from a PW to a 56 and then to 60 with nothing in between the PW and 56. It also baffles me he plays so much bounce but then again, those grinds are truly amazing so.... I would also have to agree those are Mike Taylor wedges with some TM stamping on them.




    I am pretty sure Tiger's PW is 50* so really only a 6* gap to the SW.
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  • 1jcwallace1jcwallace Members Posts: 169 ✭✭

    1jcwallace wrote:


    It's still crazy to me that he jumps from a PW to a 56 and then to 60 with nothing in between the PW and 56. It also baffles me he plays so much bounce but then again, those grinds are truly amazing so.... I would also have to agree those are Mike Taylor wedges with some TM stamping on them.




    I am pretty sure Tiger's PW is 50* so really only a 6* gap to the SW.


    Yes, I think I have read where his lofts are soft of standard...Yet he still smashes it. Just Crazy!
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  • PigemsPigems Members Posts: 10,888 ✭✭
    edited Jun 12, 2018 #19
    Those are some well used “New” wedges, I think Tiger needs to start a BST dispute thread. image/wink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' />
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  • ValtielValtiel Konica-Minolta Bizhub Members Posts: 2,139 ✭✭
    1jcwallace wrote:


    1jcwallace wrote:


    It's still crazy to me that he jumps from a PW to a 56 and then to 60 with nothing in between the PW and 56. It also baffles me he plays so much bounce but then again, those grinds are truly amazing so.... I would also have to agree those are Mike Taylor wedges with some TM stamping on them.




    I am pretty sure Tiger's PW is 50* so really only a 6* gap to the SW.


    Yes, I think I have read where his lofts are soft of standard...Yet he still smashes it. Just Crazy!




    Yeah Tiger has always been either a 49* or 50* PW guy. I have the same 6* gap between my 48* PW and 54* SW. Tiger has said that he prefers manufacturing all kinds of different shots with his PW as opposed to adding another club in there so it makes sense.
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  • 1jcwallace1jcwallace Members Posts: 169 ✭✭
    Pigems wrote:


    Those are some well used "New" wedges, I think Tiger needs to start a BST dispute thread. image/wink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' />


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    Valtiel wrote:

    1jcwallace wrote:


    1jcwallace wrote:


    It's still crazy to me that he jumps from a PW to a 56 and then to 60 with nothing in between the PW and 56. It also baffles me he plays so much bounce but then again, those grinds are truly amazing so.... I would also have to agree those are Mike Taylor wedges with some TM stamping on them.




    I am pretty sure Tiger's PW is 50* so really only a 6* gap to the SW.


    Yes, I think I have read where his lofts are soft of standard...Yet he still smashes it. Just Crazy!




    Yeah Tiger has always been either a 49* or 50* PW guy. I have the same 6* gap between my 48* PW and 54* SW. Tiger has said that he prefers manufacturing all kinds of different shots with his PW as opposed to adding another club in there so it makes sense.


    Yes. I guess if anyone can, it would be him.
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  • DizzDizz J.W. Members Posts: 14,258
    edited Jun 12, 2018 #22
    seve1972 wrote:


    Those tour velvet cords look nothing like the ones I get image/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />..... I wish they would release these....(ones with less cord)..




    Golf Pride used to call them “tour buffs”... they’re amazing grips. When I was in the golf business my rep used to get these and the Victory Cord grips for me whenever I would run low. That was back before they brought out the Victory Cord again in a limited release like they did 1-2 years ago... at that time they were only making small amounts for Vijay and a couple other big time players that still requested them. The Golf Pride Tour Velvet Cord “tour buffs” were perfect though- they basically felt like a Tour Velvet with just enough cord to give you some extra grab.



    I had 5 of them left over one year that I wasn’t gonna use because I started playing the Victory Cord again and I listed them for sale on here... 5 brand new never installed “tour buffs” for $35 and someone said they’d take them in literally seconds. That person didn’t pay and I told him right away that if he didn’t pay in a timely manner that I was gonna go to the next person in line... well I ended up having several people offer me $100 for the 5 grips once I told them they were already sold pending payment. Wild.
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  • Jc0Jc0 ChicagoMembers Posts: 1,888 ✭✭



    Is this a Mike Taylor situation?




    As noted above, the grind on the 56 is unmistakably Mike Taylor, so I would assume all the rest are as well. It's the coolest grind I've ever seen. I'll be showing up in Ft. Worth the minute they tell me they'll allow me to.




    I don't think these are technically Artisan grinds because they still have the mill marks on the sole. It almost looks like TM either sent a wedge to them or took one of Tigers old wedges, laser scanned it, and had the grind milled onto their wedge.
  • DTown3011DTown3011 #DTown3011 ClubWRX Posts: 3,592 ClubWRX
    Jc0 wrote:




    Is this a Mike Taylor situation?




    As noted above, the grind on the 56 is unmistakably Mike Taylor, so I would assume all the rest are as well. It's the coolest grind I've ever seen. I'll be showing up in Ft. Worth the minute they tell me they'll allow me to.




    I don't think these are technically Artisan grinds because they still have the mill marks on the sole. It almost looks like TM either sent a wedge to them or took one of Tigers old wedges, laser scanned it, and had the grind milled onto their wedge.




    They aren’t Artisan grinds. You can’t grind mill marks into a wedge. TaylorMade took Mike Taylor’s work, put into into CAD and milled the grinds on a CNC machine. The great news is the grinds are repeatable time and time again for whenever he wants replacements.



    Also, I don’t understand why people are so in love with these grinds when they fit Tiger and may not fit you. The 56 is a fairly standard trailing edge ribbon with heel relief and a beveled leading edge. Now I’d certainly be enamored with whatever grinds Mike Taylor fit me personally with if I had a chance to work with him, but falling in love with someone else’s grinds you’ve never even hit just based on looks (let alone Tigers!) is silly at best.
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  • bladehunterbladehunter Rain rain go the hell away ! south carolinaMembers Posts: 26,673 ✭✭
    DTown3011 wrote:

    Jc0 wrote:




    Is this a Mike Taylor situation?




    As noted above, the grind on the 56 is unmistakably Mike Taylor, so I would assume all the rest are as well. It's the coolest grind I've ever seen. I'll be showing up in Ft. Worth the minute they tell me they'll allow me to.




    I don't think these are technically Artisan grinds because they still have the mill marks on the sole. It almost looks like TM either sent a wedge to them or took one of Tigers old wedges, laser scanned it, and had the grind milled onto their wedge.




    They aren’t Artisan grinds. You can’t grind mill marks into a wedge. TaylorMade took Mike Taylor’s work, put into into CAD and milled the grinds on a CNC machine. The great news is the grinds are repeatable time and time again for whenever he wants replacements.



    Also, I don’t understand why people are so in love with these grinds when they fit Tiger and may not fit you. The 56 is a fairly standard trailing edge ribbon with heel relief and a beveled leading edge. Now I’d certainly be enamored with whatever grinds Mike Taylor fit me personally with if I had a chance to work with him, but falling in love with someone else’s grinds you’ve never even hit just based on looks (let alone Tigers!) is silly at best.




    I think you are correct on the process. But you never know who owns that cad program. They maybe artisan on rent to TM.



    Heck. It wouldn’t shock me to know that artisan had the capability to mill these themselves.
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  • jonn443jonn443 Jonnystx Members Posts: 4,610 ✭✭

    DTown3011 wrote:

    Jc0 wrote:




    Is this a Mike Taylor situation?




    As noted above, the grind on the 56 is unmistakably Mike Taylor, so I would assume all the rest are as well. It's the coolest grind I've ever seen. I'll be showing up in Ft. Worth the minute they tell me they'll allow me to.




    I don't think these are technically Artisan grinds because they still have the mill marks on the sole. It almost looks like TM either sent a wedge to them or took one of Tigers old wedges, laser scanned it, and had the grind milled onto their wedge.




    They aren’t Artisan grinds. You can’t grind mill marks into a wedge. TaylorMade took Mike Taylor’s work, put into into CAD and milled the grinds on a CNC machine. The great news is the grinds are repeatable time and time again for whenever he wants replacements.



    Also, I don’t understand why people are so in love with these grinds when they fit Tiger and may not fit you. The 56 is a fairly standard trailing edge ribbon with heel relief and a beveled leading edge. Now I’d certainly be enamored with whatever grinds Mike Taylor fit me personally with if I had a chance to work with him, but falling in love with someone else’s grinds you’ve never even hit just based on looks (let alone Tigers!) is silly at best.




    I think you are correct on the process. But you never know who owns that cad program. They maybe artisan on rent to TM.



    Heck. It wouldn’t shock me to know that artisan had the capability to mill these themselves.




    Exactly... and let's not forget that the MT (Artisan) stamp is on not one but BOTH wedges.
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  • kcsfkcsf Members Posts: 1,079 ✭✭
    mctrees02 wrote:



    Maybe TM will do this but they would make a pile of money if they released a TW grind milled wedge. Even if it was just a 60 Degree, money being left on the table.
    considering it's not their grind, they would have to pay Artisan to do the heavy lifting




    I'm not sure I follow your statement. Why couldn't TM just offer these milled to the public?
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  • QuigleyDUQuigleyDU Members Posts: 6,908 ✭✭
    I think you are correct on the process. But you never know who owns that cad program. They maybe artisan on rent to TM. Heck. It wouldn’t shock me to know that artisan had the capability to mill these themselves. Exactly... and let's not forget that the MT (Artisan) stamp is on not one but BOTH wedges.



    lets also not forget that anyone with a decent milling machine and software could do this. You guys all act like there is only one person in the world that know how to grind a wedge.... jeez.
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  • DizzDizz J.W. Members Posts: 14,258
    DTown3011 wrote:

    Jc0 wrote:




    Is this a Mike Taylor situation?




    As noted above, the grind on the 56 is unmistakably Mike Taylor, so I would assume all the rest are as well. It's the coolest grind I've ever seen. I'll be showing up in Ft. Worth the minute they tell me they'll allow me to.




    I don't think these are technically Artisan grinds because they still have the mill marks on the sole. It almost looks like TM either sent a wedge to them or took one of Tigers old wedges, laser scanned it, and had the grind milled onto their wedge.




    They aren’t Artisan grinds. You can’t grind mill marks into a wedge. TaylorMade took Mike Taylor’s work, put into into CAD and milled the grinds on a CNC machine. The great news is the grinds are repeatable time and time again for whenever he wants replacements.



    Also, I don’t understand why people are so in love with these grinds when they fit Tiger and may not fit you. The 56 is a fairly standard trailing edge ribbon with heel relief and a beveled leading edge. Now I’d certainly be enamored with whatever grinds Mike Taylor fit me personally with if I had a chance to work with him, but falling in love with someone else’s grinds you’ve never even hit just based on looks (let alone Tigers!) is silly at best.




    I’m glad you said it, I was thinking the same thing. I know people go crazy for Tiger’s gear but that grind is pretty much as basic as possible. **** there are several retail wedges out there with something very similar. It’s like people just have to have “tour issue” even if it’s just retail stuff that’s given to a tour player.
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  • DTown3011DTown3011 #DTown3011 ClubWRX Posts: 3,592 ClubWRX
    Jonathan Wall literally details how it all works in the PGATour.com article, so there shouldn't be any confusion:


    Working directly with master craftsman Mike Taylor — who worked at Nike Golf with Woods — Demkowski received numerous grinds to study before settling on a grind for both wedges that was machined in-house.

    Once the heads were complete, Demkowski sent the wedges back to Taylor, who built them to Woods' specifications. While the entire process took four weeks, it was only within the last week-and-a-half that Woods began working the wedges at home.



    "The cool thing for us is his excitement to play our wedges," Demkowski said, "because he sees the value in the Milled Grind."




    -Mike Taylor sent numerous grinds for TaylorMade to study and select for Tiger

    -Once chosen, the grinds were milled in-house at TaylorMade (hence the milled grind)

    -Wedges were sent back to Taylor to be built to Woods' specs



    I'm sure the Artisan serial numbers were added after the fact to track Woods' build specs. That doesn't necessarily mean the heads were created by Mike.
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