Yellow Balls have a different feel?

halliedoghalliedog Members Posts: 2,384 ✭✭
Sorry all you pervs, just needed a catchy title!



I'm really liking the Titleist AVX balls, but have only played the White. I bought a dozen recently and traded one sleeve of White for a sleeve of "Yellow". I haven't actually "hit" the Yellow yet, but the cover just seems different than the Whites - more of a hard plastic than a thin urethane feeling. I've noticed this on other Yellow balls in the past as well.



So question is, do they use a different mix on the yellow covers, does the yellow dye so something to make the cover harder, or is this all in my mind?
WITB:
Mizuno GT/ST-180 Dr w/ EvenFlow White 6.0 75
Mizuno GT-180 3wd w/ Tensei CK White 75
TM UDI 1, 3 w/ KBS C-Taper Lite S
TM P770 4-PW w/ TT Tour Concept Satin
TM Milled Grind 52* LB and 58* SB
Odyssey O-Works 7S Tank

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  • JagpilotohioJagpilotohio 45+ inch drivers are evil. Columbus, OHMembers Posts: 7,243 ✭✭
    edited Jun 14, 2018 #2
    Ask Dean Snell. He’s the resident expert on Golf balls.



    Email or Instagram him. I’m sure he’d tell you.
    9.5* Cobra LTD, Old school Grafalloy Blue, 43.5"
    14* Cally 815 alpha fuji 665 X 42"
    16* Cally 815 alpha fuji 665 X, 41.5" (set to 17*)
    19* Titleist 816 H2 fuji 8.8X TS 40.0"
    4-7 2016 Hogan PTx, KBS Tour V, 120X.  
    Ping i210 8 & 9 Proto 125 F5 hardstepped 1x.
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  • halliedoghalliedog Members Posts: 2,384 ✭✭


    Ask Dean Snell. He's the resident expert on Golf balls.



    Email or Instagram him. I'm sure he'd tell you.




    Good point, and thanks for the advice!
    WITB:
    Mizuno GT/ST-180 Dr w/ EvenFlow White 6.0 75
    Mizuno GT-180 3wd w/ Tensei CK White 75
    TM UDI 1, 3 w/ KBS C-Taper Lite S
    TM P770 4-PW w/ TT Tour Concept Satin
    TM Milled Grind 52* LB and 58* SB
    Odyssey O-Works 7S Tank
  • hwturner17hwturner17 Members Posts: 349 ✭✭


    Ask Dean Snell. He's the resident expert on Golf balls.



    Email or Instagram him. I'm sure he'd tell you.




    We don't deserve him lol
    Driver: Ping G410 Plus
    FW: Ping Anser 4 wood
    Irons: Ping i210 4-U
    Wedges: 54/58 Raw Hi-Toes
    Putter: Odyssey #7

    Ball: revolving door
  • JagpilotohioJagpilotohio 45+ inch drivers are evil. Columbus, OHMembers Posts: 7,243 ✭✭
    halliedog wrote:



    Ask Dean Snell. He's the resident expert on Golf balls.



    Email or Instagram him. I'm sure he'd tell you.




    Good point, and thanks for the advice!




    Ask him to post here or post what he tells you. I’m curious as well. I only play yellow occasionally so I can’t say I’d noticed anything.
    9.5* Cobra LTD, Old school Grafalloy Blue, 43.5"
    14* Cally 815 alpha fuji 665 X 42"
    16* Cally 815 alpha fuji 665 X, 41.5" (set to 17*)
    19* Titleist 816 H2 fuji 8.8X TS 40.0"
    4-7 2016 Hogan PTx, KBS Tour V, 120X.  
    Ping i210 8 & 9 Proto 125 F5 hardstepped 1x.
    Ping glide 2 46-12, 50-12, 54-14 (at 55) stealth, Vokey SM6 60M (61). Wedges Recoil Proto 125 F5
    33.5" Ghost spider slant neck.
    Srixon Z-star XV
    Jones Trouper Bag
  • North ButteNorth Butte Members Posts: 10,143 ✭✭
    Pretty sure in the Snell thread Dean commented that there should not be any difference (feel or otherwise) between the yellow and white versions of the MTB Red. If it wasn't in that thread on GolfWRX it was on a FAQ on his company web page or on that other forum which should not be named.
    “1lb beefstak, with
    1pt bitter beer
    every 6 hours.
    1 ten-mile walk every morning.
    1 bed at 11 sharp every night.
    And don't stuff your head with things you don't understand.” 
  • tatertottatertot Members Posts: 4,463 ✭✭
    It's the power of optics on our definition of "feel".
    Driver: Adams Speedline Fast 11, 9.5*
    Hybrid: Titleist 816H1, 19*
    Long Iron: Ping iE1, 26*
    Mid Iron: Ping iE1, 32*
    Short Iron: Ping iE1, 41*
    Wedge: Ping iE1, 45*
    Gap: Ping Glide SS, 52*
    Lob: Ping Glide ES, 60*
    Putter: Yes Callie Mid, 41"
    Ball: Bridgestone Tour B XS
    Bag: Sun Mountain Swift X
  • North ButteNorth Butte Members Posts: 10,143 ✭✭
    tatertot wrote:


    It's the power of optics on our definition of "feel".




    I got a couple of Vokey wedges that came with those white paint-fill Tour Velvet grips. I can't even describe how much softer and cushier those felt than the usual hard and uncomfortable Tour Velvets. Yet there is in fact no difference in texture or firmness, just the power of optics. Darndest thing.
    “1lb beefstak, with
    1pt bitter beer
    every 6 hours.
    1 ten-mile walk every morning.
    1 bed at 11 sharp every night.
    And don't stuff your head with things you don't understand.” 
  • Bad9Bad9 Members Posts: 4,236 ✭✭
    I can say that the original Duo in white, yellow and orange feel exactly the same to me.
    Ping G400 10.5°/Xcaliber SL r flex
    Callaway Heavenwood Xcaliber SL r flex
    Maltby KE4 Tour 25°/Xcaliber HY r flex

    Maltby KE4 Tour 28°/Xcaliber HY r flex
    Ping I200 5-G/CFS70 r flex
    Maltby Tricept 54°/Xcaliber r flex
    Maltby Tricept 58°/Xcaliber r flex
    Mizuno Bettinardi C06
  • citizenforecitizenfore Members Posts: 323 ✭✭
    I’m sure it’s psychological, but I love the feel of the Yellow Gamer compared to other golf balls- including The same Gamers in white.
    Modern bag:
    Nike vr str8 fit tour set at 11
    Ping rapture v2 4 wood
    Nike vr_s 3 and 4 hybrids
    Maltby mmb 5-pw
    Carnahan 52/56/60 wedge
    Rotating door of putters

    Sunday/quick nine walker:
    Callaway warbird deuce 2 wd
    Callaway warbird 4 wd
    Hogan apex pro 4-E
    Ping eye 2 W and S
    Ping cushin putter

    Classic bag:
    Palmer Chattanooga driver
    Hogan Slotline 4 wd
    Palmer Standard 85 3-pw
    Same ping eye 2 sw
    Wilson professional 600 putter
  • Tanner25Tanner25 Members Posts: 6,248 ✭✭
    Bad9 wrote:


    I can say that the original Duo in white, yellow and orange feel exactly the same to me.




    Hmm, I bought the orange Wilson 50's and thought they didn't feel as good as the white ones. Perhaps, there will be a thread for the colored ball illusion, lol.
  • JustsomeguyJustsomeguy Members Posts: 1,049 ✭✭
    I don't think it's psychological at all. Yellow and most other tinted balls feel harsher, less cushioned.

    Maybe the dye hardens the materials?

    Or maybe it really is mental...
    Cobra F9 10.5* Project X Evenflow Blue 65 - CAMO!
    Titleist 915F 15* Diamana S+ Blue 70, R
    Titleist 915H 20* Diamana S+ Blue 70, R
    Titleist 716 AP1 4-W52, Kuro Kage Tini 65, S
    Cleveland CBX, 56*/12, Rotex Graphite Wedge Flex
    Cleveland Smart Square Blade
  • monks66monks66 Members Posts: 602 ✭✭
    maybe the paint has something to do with it...I feel the same, i dont play colored, but have noticed difference in feel when I did
  • deadsolid...shankdeadsolid...shank ClubWRX Posts: 14,685 ClubWRX
    I've been playing the Snell Reds this year. I just received my two dozen yellow ones. Hopefully I'll get out today and put one in play.



    I'll report back if they feel any different to me.
    Titleist 910 8.5
    Titleist 910 15*
    Titleist 910H 17*
    2-6 Mizuno MP-60, 7-PW MP-67
    SC GoLo
    Vokey SM5 52,58,62
  • BY#99BY#99 Members Posts: 325 ✭✭
    From what I understand their are 2 types of urethane. The overwhelming one is cast and the other is TPU or thermoplastic urethane. The TPU from my experience is shinier and is used for yellow balls typically as it takes the coloring better than cast. If you look at the MTB Red the cover is clearly shinier than the Black even in the white versions of both. So a yellow ball may be a TPU cover which for you may feel different.
  • North ButteNorth Butte Members Posts: 10,143 ✭✭
    BY#99 wrote:


    From what I understand their are 2 types of urethane. The overwhelming one is cast and the other is TPU or thermoplastic urethane. The TPU from my experience is shinier and is used for yellow balls typically as it takes the coloring better than cast. If you look at the MTB Red the cover is clearly shinier than the Black even in the white versions of both. So a yellow ball may be a TPU cover which for you may feel different.




    Cast is not necessarily more commonly used than TPU. Only to the extent all Titleist Urethane balls are cast makes it seem the most widely used. The majority of non-Titleist Urethane balls are not cast thermoset.
    “1lb beefstak, with
    1pt bitter beer
    every 6 hours.
    1 ten-mile walk every morning.
    1 bed at 11 sharp every night.
    And don't stuff your head with things you don't understand.” 
  • deadsolid...shankdeadsolid...shank ClubWRX Posts: 14,685 ClubWRX


    I've been playing the Snell Reds this year. I just received my two dozen yellow ones. Hopefully I'll get out today and put one in play.



    I'll report back if they feel any different to me.




    Lame, quoting my own post. I know.



    But, I thought the yellow Snell Red felt softer than the white. It actually felt closer to the black to me. I loved it Red performance with a softer feel.
    Titleist 910 8.5
    Titleist 910 15*
    Titleist 910H 17*
    2-6 Mizuno MP-60, 7-PW MP-67
    SC GoLo
    Vokey SM5 52,58,62
  • BY#99BY#99 Members Posts: 325 ✭✭

    BY#99 wrote:


    From what I understand their are 2 types of urethane. The overwhelming one is cast and the other is TPU or thermoplastic urethane. The TPU from my experience is shinier and is used for yellow balls typically as it takes the coloring better than cast. If you look at the MTB Red the cover is clearly shinier than the Black even in the white versions of both. So a yellow ball may be a TPU cover which for you may feel different.




    Cast is not necessarily more commonly used than TPU. Only to the extent all Titleist Urethane balls are cast makes it seem the most widely used. The majority of non-Titleist Urethane balls are not cast thermoset.




    Some are and some are not. I know TaylorMade and Snell do cast balls. Snell does both types now with the Red version.
  • North ButteNorth Butte Members Posts: 10,143 ✭✭
    As I understand it, all Titleist, all TM, the MTB Black and white label balls from two specific Asian contract manufacturers are cast. I think everything else is TPU or other non-cast materials.
    “1lb beefstak, with
    1pt bitter beer
    every 6 hours.
    1 ten-mile walk every morning.
    1 bed at 11 sharp every night.
    And don't stuff your head with things you don't understand.” 
  • spartanglfrspartanglfr Members Posts: 373 ✭✭
    edited Jun 16, 2018 #20
    The Srixon Z Star yellow cover feels a bit harder and different (utilizing the ol' fingernail test) compared with the white version. But the yellow performance on the course is the same as the white. And I don't notice a difference in feel off the clubface.
  • JagpilotohioJagpilotohio 45+ inch drivers are evil. Columbus, OHMembers Posts: 7,243 ✭✭
    edited Jun 16, 2018 #21
    Just rewatched Snells video on common ball questions.



    Cast urethane yellow balls use a different paint color and different pigment in the actual urethane. It doesn’t sound like it should do anything to feel but he doesn’t address that specifically.



    Good video if you haven’t seen it. I love the question about low compression golf balls. He says unequivocally that no one hits a low compression ball farther than a high compression ball no matter what your swing speed is. If you enjoy the feel of a low compression ball that’s great, but it doesn’t go farther for slow swing speed players.



    Here’s the link if you have time.



    9.5* Cobra LTD, Old school Grafalloy Blue, 43.5"
    14* Cally 815 alpha fuji 665 X 42"
    16* Cally 815 alpha fuji 665 X, 41.5" (set to 17*)
    19* Titleist 816 H2 fuji 8.8X TS 40.0"
    4-7 2016 Hogan PTx, KBS Tour V, 120X.  
    Ping i210 8 & 9 Proto 125 F5 hardstepped 1x.
    Ping glide 2 46-12, 50-12, 54-14 (at 55) stealth, Vokey SM6 60M (61). Wedges Recoil Proto 125 F5
    33.5" Ghost spider slant neck.
    Srixon Z-star XV
    Jones Trouper Bag
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