PGA of America President Charged with DUI

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Paul Levy charged with misdemeanor DUI in California.



https://golfweek.com/2018/06/13/pga-of-america-president-paul-levy-is-charged-with-dui/



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  • gvogelgvogel Members Posts: 7,470 ✭✭
    "Paul Levy has accepted responsibility for his terrible lapse in judgment last Thursday. He has expressed deep regret and fully understands how irresponsible his actions were. The PGA of America will support Paul as he seeks counseling, faces the consequences of his actions and works through the legal process in the months ahead.”



    Counseling? He'll be back at the bar in a couple of months. Sometimes it just isn't necessary to issue a statement.
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  • MountainGoatMountainGoat Mid-MarylandMembers Posts: 1,784 ✭✭
    I guess golf doesn't teach high character after all.
  • FergusonFerguson Members Posts: 4,918 ✭✭
    I think driving with a lampshade on his head gave it away.
  • golfandfishinggolfandfishing Members Posts: 3,528 ✭✭
    For once the PGA of America has a president that its vast class of apprentices can relate to.
  • JagpilotohioJagpilotohio 45+ inch drivers are evil. Columbus, OHMembers Posts: 7,243 ✭✭
    74000 block of 111? Hummm. Wonder if he was leaving the Kaiser Grill. Great steak house.



    Drove off the road into a sign at 11:30 pm. Must’ve had a snort full to do that. It’s not a tricky stretch of road. Straight as an arrow.



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    In before jokes about Diana Murphy...
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  • JagpilotohioJagpilotohio 45+ inch drivers are evil. Columbus, OHMembers Posts: 7,243 ✭✭


    For once the PGA of America has a president that its vast class of apprentices can relate to.




    Ummm. A bit harsh.
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  • YuckYuck Fore! Members Posts: 2,464 ✭✭
    edited Jun 14, 2018 #9
    Zero tolerence and a resignation would send the right message. Fortunately nobody was hurt, but if you are so drunk, you miss the road, you are drunk enough to kill someone.
  • golfandfishinggolfandfishing Members Posts: 3,528 ✭✭
    Yuck wrote:


    Zero tolerence and a resignation would send the right message. Fortunately nobody was hurt, but if you are so drunk, you miss the road, you are drunk enough to kill someone.




    DUI isn’t usually a fireable offense in a white collar job unless it happens while on the job. He appears to have been on personal time here.



    Agree on the missing the road notion.
  • MtlJeffMtlJeff MontrealMembers Posts: 28,494 ✭✭

    Yuck wrote:


    Zero tolerence and a resignation would send the right message. Fortunately nobody was hurt, but if you are so drunk, you miss the road, you are drunk enough to kill someone.




    DUI isn’t usually a fireable offense in a white collar job unless it happens while on the job. He appears to have been on personal time here.



    Agree on the missing the road notion.




    I think some jobs have clauses that would allow them to fire you for a criminal offense. No idea about the PGA. I have seen people fired for DUI though
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  • HoffTTMHoffTTM Members Posts: 2,120


    I guess golf doesn't teach high character after all.




    The culture around golf inherently encourages/enables DUIs imo. As an estimate 15-20% of people will have 2 pints or more after a round and drive here.
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  • BlackDiamondPar5BlackDiamondPar5 Members Posts: 5,306 ✭✭
    edited Jun 14, 2018 #13
    HoffTTM wrote:



    I guess golf doesn't teach high character after all.




    The culture around golf inherently encourages/enables DUIs imo. As an estimate 15-20% of people will have 2 pints or more after a round and drive here.


    Maybe 2 or 3 pints will put someone over, depending on timing and strength of brew etc, but your not going to be driving off the road.



    I agree with you about the 19th hole culture.



    Regardless, I don't think he should be fired.
  • ray9898ray9898 Members Posts: 786 ✭✭
    HoffTTM wrote:




    The culture around golf inherently encourages/enables DUIs imo. As an estimate 15-20% of people will have 2 pints or more after a round and drive here.






    Two pints isn't putting the normal person anywhere near DUI level.
  • FergusonFerguson Members Posts: 4,918 ✭✭
    Heard he was possibly drinking with Judy Rankin. No one can keep up with her.
  • dcmidnightdcmidnight Marshals, BST Volunteer Mods Posts: 11,856 mod
    MtlJeff wrote:


    I think some jobs have clauses that would allow them to fire you for a criminal offense. No idea about the PGA. I have seen people fired for DUI though




    Definitely could be a "conduct unbecoming" type clause in there - especially at his level. Not sure what the guys salary is but it always peeves me off in cases like this that he cant take a **** Uber home. So drunk you cant stay on the road, could have easily killed someone/s.



    And I guess it still always baffles me in cases like this that being so drunk you drive off the road and crash into a sign is only a misdemeanor.
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    dcmidnight wrote:

    MtlJeff wrote:


    I think some jobs have clauses that would allow them to fire you for a criminal offense. No idea about the PGA. I have seen people fired for DUI though




    Definitely could be a "conduct unbecoming" type clause in there - especially at his level. Not sure what the guys salary is but it always peeves me off in cases like this that he cant take a **** Uber home. So drunk you cant stay on the road, could have easily killed someone/s.



    And I guess it still always baffles me in cases like this that being so drunk you drive off the road and crash into a sign is only a misdemeanor.






    In order to keep his job he will need to admit he's an alcoholic. This way the PGA can state it was "the addiction" that led to poor judgement.
  • MtlJeffMtlJeff MontrealMembers Posts: 28,494 ✭✭
    HoffTTM wrote:



    I guess golf doesn't teach high character after all.




    The culture around golf inherently encourages/enables DUIs imo. As an estimate 15-20% of people will have 2 pints or more after a round and drive here.




    Drinking and driving from golf courses is borderline epidemic.



    I refuse to jog on roads near my golf course , as it's an area with 2-3 courses nearby. I used to do it after rounds. A couple of years ago a jogger got killed. There have been other injuries. This is only over a 4-5 year period.
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  • Night trainNight train Members Posts: 2,835 ✭✭
    Many have made the same mistake..........many more have been fortunate to never have been caught.



    Hope he learns from his mistake and changes his ways!
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  • mgholdamgholda Tour Issues Indianapolis, INMembers Posts: 750 ✭✭
    Remove the “Lil drunk boy” from office. Not a good look for the PGA.
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  • FergusonFerguson Members Posts: 4,918 ✭✭
    Robert Allenby was seen leaving the same bar. Someone stuck a PGA bumper sticker to his back.
  • JagpilotohioJagpilotohio 45+ inch drivers are evil. Columbus, OHMembers Posts: 7,243 ✭✭


    Many have made the same mistake..........many more have been fortunate to never have been caught.



    Hope he learns from his mistake and changes his ways!




    Very true. I drove that same stretch of road hammered hundreds of times when I lived out there and never drove into a sign or got caught.



    That was before I realized I had a problem and quit. I honestly don’t think I ever played a round of golf back in those days and didn’t get drunk afterwards.



    There were no Ubers or Lyfts back then and very few took cabs. The Dark ages.
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  • golfandfishinggolfandfishing Members Posts: 3,528 ✭✭
    Ferguson wrote:

    dcmidnight wrote:

    MtlJeff wrote:


    I think some jobs have clauses that would allow them to fire you for a criminal offense. No idea about the PGA. I have seen people fired for DUI though




    Definitely could be a "conduct unbecoming" type clause in there - especially at his level. Not sure what the guys salary is but it always peeves me off in cases like this that he cant take a **** Uber home. So drunk you cant stay on the road, could have easily killed someone/s.



    And I guess it still always baffles me in cases like this that being so drunk you drive off the road and crash into a sign is only a misdemeanor.






    In order to keep his job he will need to admit he's an alcoholic. This way the PGA can state it was "the addiction" that led to poor judgement.




    This is a good point - if he’s an addict he’s going to be in a protected class.
  • sandysandy ClubWRX Posts: 4,996
    edited Jun 14, 2018 #25
    Yuck wrote:


    Zero tolerence and a resignation would send the right message. Fortunately nobody was hurt, but if you are so drunk, you miss the road, you are drunk enough to kill someone.




    Or if you are on your way home from “LA” while you sit motionless in the road with a damaged vehicle in Florida. Maybe he can get the sweetheart deal El Tigre got. Something like DUI diversion program. One might conclude the Tiger was in motion before he decided the road was a parking lot. Funny not much ever came out on the vehicle damage.. Zero tolerance...not for the golden child.. in the U.S. you can continue to drive impaired until you kill someone. Unlike Europe, still never forget Ian Woosnam driving drunk into someones cornfield. Lost his license, not sure he ever got it back.
  • golfandfishinggolfandfishing Members Posts: 3,528 ✭✭
    sandy wrote:

    Yuck wrote:


    Zero tolerence and a resignation would send the right message. Fortunately nobody was hurt, but if you are so drunk, you miss the road, you are drunk enough to kill someone.




    Or if you are on your way home from “LA” while you sit motionless in the road with a damaged vehicle in Florida. Maybe he can get the sweetheart deal El Tigre got. Something like DUI diversion program.




    According to several here the police were actually at fault for that. They should have taken him home, stopped for White Castle and tucked him safely into Amanda Dufner’s bed.
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    Enjoy the chase.
  • JagpilotohioJagpilotohio 45+ inch drivers are evil. Columbus, OHMembers Posts: 7,243 ✭✭
    McCann1 wrote:


    0.0 BAC




    True but completely irrelevant. Ripped on sleeping pills, prescription pain pills and THC is still driving while impaired. He was almost certainly more dangerous than if he just had a few drinks.
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  • FergusonFerguson Members Posts: 4,918 ✭✭

    McCann1 wrote:


    0.0 BAC




    True but completely irrelevant. Ripped on sleeping pills, prescription pain pills and THC is still driving while impaired. He was almost certainly more dangerous than if he just had a few drinks.






    As is the topic of TW in this thread.







    Levy is a manager and leader, and apparently really stupid.
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    dcmidnight wrote:

    MtlJeff wrote:


    I think some jobs have clauses that would allow them to fire you for a criminal offense. No idea about the PGA. I have seen people fired for DUI though




    Definitely could be a "conduct unbecoming" type clause in there - especially at his level. Not sure what the guys salary is but it always peeves me off in cases like this that he cant take a **** Uber home. So drunk you cant stay on the road, could have easily killed someone/s.



    And I guess it still always baffles me in cases like this that being so drunk you drive off the road and crash into a sign is only a misdemeanor.




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  • duffer987duffer987 Don't feed the Choo. Canadian in CaliforniaMembers Posts: 9,118 ✭✭
    edited Jun 14, 2018 #31


    In before jokes about Diana Murphy...




    Diana Murphy:

    DUI? Pfft.Hold my drink...

    ...no really someone hold one of my drinks, this double-fisting gets tiring.
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