Anyone else dread being announced as the low handicap?

Cpm881Cpm881 RookiePosts: 169 ✭✭
edited Jun 23, 2018 in General Golf Talk #1
Whether you're a 0 playing with some 10s, or a 10 playing with some 20s, anyone else dread being low handicap man in a group? Nothing kills a score like your buddy announcing to the group how "good" you are, how far you hit it, or that you are a "__" handicap.



And why do so many people start the round asking everyone's handicap? Unless we're betting w/ strokes, lets all shoot 10 over our handicaps in peace.



Maybe just me



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  • SocratesSocrates How can it be so *&#% hard to make a shoulder turn? WinnipegClubWRX Posts: 9,172 ClubWRX
    Nope. I'm often the lowest hcp in a group. If I've joined a group and someone asks what my hcp is, I usually just say I'm about a 10.
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  • boxerjoe2011boxerjoe2011 Oh Billy!!! Posts: 957 ✭✭
    Not normally, but I also post my scores accurately and honestly so I know that I will most likely play to my handicap. What's frustrating however is when people ask after the round "So you are a 3 handicap but you shot an 80? You must have played really bad today huh?" Uhh no, I normally shoot high 70's low 80's and you don't know how the handicap system works.
  • JagpilotohioJagpilotohio 45+ inch drivers are evil. Columbus, OHMembers Posts: 7,167 ✭✭
    edited Jun 23, 2018 #4
    Socrates wrote:


    Nope. I'm often the lowest hcp in a group. If I've joined a group and someone asks what my hcp is, I usually just say I'm about a 10.




    Hahaha. Yeah. 98% of the time I’m the lowest in the group and I usually sandbag my skill level up a bit if there’s no betting or team play going on.



    No one wants to be “the stick” in the group on the first tee and have a crummy day. I like to just say something like, “I might break 80 if I have a good day”.





    Edit.....ok...I’ll admit it. It’s sort of fun to say “I might break 80” and then surprise people with a 69 or 70 now and then. LOL!!
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  • RSinSGRSinSG ClubWRX Posts: 3,027 ClubWRX
    ... you don't know how the handicap system works.




    This. Most people think having a 5 hdcp means you should shoot 77 every time.
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  • MadGolfer76MadGolfer76 Admiration is the state furthest from understanding. Members Posts: 19,850 ✭✭
    It doesn't bother me. I've been awesome for a long time, so I've had a chance to get used to it.
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  • CwebbCwebb Members Posts: 5,847 ClubWRX


    It doesn't bother me. I've been awesome for a long time, so I've had a chance to get used to it.




    Don't sell yourself short. You're a transcendent player in the Maine area
  • MadGolfer76MadGolfer76 Admiration is the state furthest from understanding. Members Posts: 19,850 ✭✭
    edited Jun 23, 2018 #8
    Cwebb wrote:



    It doesn't bother me. I've been awesome for a long time, so I've had a chance to get used to it.




    Don't sell yourself short. You're a transcendent player in the Maine area




    I'm the best player no one gives a **** hearing about! image/wink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' />







    edit: That was more a joke post, if anyone didn't get that.
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  • FLOGMRFLOGMR Members Posts: 1,265 ✭✭
    Doesn't bother me....I have been 3 or less for years and I get used to it....but....funny experience a few years ago. I went out to play a local course as a single and get paired out with a group of 3 guys who are all around 10-15 'caps. goods guys and good fun.....on the 8th hole I am -1 and stripe a drive up the center of the fairway. One of these guys says to me.... "Man, you are hitting it good today....what's your handicap?" I reply that I am a 2.....he looks at me and says "Really? I thought you would be better than that" image/taunt.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':taunt:' />

    I asked him how many 2's he knew or ever played with...he just shrugged and walked off towards his ball....almost no conversation for the rest of the round. image/stink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':stink:' />
  • JagpilotohioJagpilotohio 45+ inch drivers are evil. Columbus, OHMembers Posts: 7,167 ✭✭
    FLOGMR wrote:


    Doesn't bother me....I have been 3 or less for years and I get used to it....but....funny experience a few years ago. I went out to play a local course as a single and get paired out with a group of 3 guys who are all around 10-15 'caps. goods guys and good fun.....on the 8th hole I am -1 and stripe a drive up the center of the fairway. One of these guys says to me.... "Man, you are hitting it good today....what's your handicap?" I reply that I am a 2.....he looks at me and says "Really? I thought you would be better than that" image/taunt.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':taunt:' />

    I asked him how many 2's he knew or ever played with...he just shrugged and walked off towards his ball....almost no conversation for the rest of the round. image/stink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':stink:' />




    And that’s why it’s often best not to even talk about it.

    There are basically 3 types of people when it comes to this.

    1. Those that love the idea of playing with a low cap. Enjoy the good play. Maybe learn something.

    2. Those that couldn’t care less one way or the other. Who cares. It’s just a game.

    3. Those that really get truly upset at playing with a stranger that’s far better than they are. Jealous, insecure, or both.



    You obviously ran into number 3.
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  • Carl Spackler3Carl Spackler3 Posts: 911 ✭✭
    I will be sure to let you know,In the unlikely event I ever am
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  • BNGLBNGL Members Posts: 1,561 ✭✭
    No. Theres some notoriety being the best player in the area, because people wanna play with good players. I have gotten to meet some people I would never have met before but because they heard/knew I could play they wanted to play with me. It is a nice feeling knowing that people want to play with you, I never have to worry about finding a group.
  • Frisco KidFrisco Kid Members Posts: 150 ✭✭
    Played with a twosome today at a course I stunk up a few years ago...they asked my cap and I said it’s trending at 10.5 they said they were much higher. I proceed to shoot my worst round, probably since I played there. Shot a 98 and I’m sure they thought I was lying about my HC. Funny though, my HC didn’t change after I entered today’s disaster round?
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  • dgarlanddgarland So I got that going for me... which is nice. Members Posts: 115 ✭✭
    Doesn’t really bother me except when guys are like, “you’re a 4 so you should shoot 76 today”. Then they proceed to jack it up in the rough all day and pick up 6 footers for bogey because they’re “out of the hole”. At the end of the day the 15 shoots a 78 and doesn’t post it.
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  • JagpilotohioJagpilotohio 45+ inch drivers are evil. Columbus, OHMembers Posts: 7,167 ✭✭
    Frisco Kid wrote:


    Played with a twosome today at a course I stunk up a few years ago...they asked my cap and I said it’s trending at 10.5 they said they were much higher. I proceed to shoot my worst round, probably since I played there. Shot a 98 and I’m sure they thought I was lying about my HC. Funny though, my HC didn’t change after I entered today’s disaster round?




    Index is calculated using the lowest 10 out of your last 20 rounds. That disaster round obviously didn’t get used.



    It’s also why it isn’t “easy” to shoot your handicap. Your index is not your average score. It’s quite a bit lower than the average.
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  • wrmillerwrmiller Members Posts: 1,569 ✭✭
    When I'm asked, I tell them I'm probably somewhere around a 15. I usually got a lot of eye rolls from those I've played with before when I say that though. Especially when I seldom ever shot above 80 back then.



    Now I just tell people that I don't keep score anymore so I really have no idea. image/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />
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  • 118811118811 Posts: 161 ✭✭
    Haha, I love being the low cap in the group, but hate having to give out strokes!

    I generally will give my partners the full difference in our strokes as long as they agree to play...junk too!

    Sandies par or better, birdies, and greenies. Yeah I'm hedging but it usually works out pretty fairly...��

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  • Sean2Sean2 #TheWRX (Callaway Trip) Members Posts: 30,826 ✭✭

    Frisco Kid wrote:


    Played with a twosome today at a course I stunk up a few years ago...they asked my cap and I said it’s trending at 10.5 they said they were much higher. I proceed to shoot my worst round, probably since I played there. Shot a 98 and I’m sure they thought I was lying about my HC. Funny though, my HC didn’t change after I entered today’s disaster round?




    Index is calculated using the lowest 10 out of your last 20 rounds. That disaster round obviously didn’t get used.



    It’s also why it isn’t “easy” to shoot your handicap. Your index is not your average score. It’s quite a bit lower than the average.




    Yes...it's a gauge of your potential. Though it can be difficult living up to your potential. :-)
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  • MtlJeffMtlJeff MontrealMembers Posts: 28,199 ✭✭
    It can be fun too.....i've been invited to play several times by people i work with because of my low index. It can be a good way to make connections in business



    I understand some aspects of what the OP says though, i lot of people don't understand how indexes work. So you say you're a 1 they expect you to shoot like 70-72. I mean it's possible but not likely
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  • daegyudaegyu Members Posts: 236 ✭✭
    Yup I never pull my weight in team events and I usually feel pretty bad about it. Sticking to failing at individual events now.
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    Iʻve noticed the guyʻs who are sticks usually donʻt care about that and rarely blow up. If iʻm playing with a few hi-handicappers and they sense iʻm a decent player iʻll just say " play well guys." I make no excuses before or after the round, whatever i shot.
  • EKELLYEKELLY Posts: 2,593 ✭✭
    It can go both ways, depending on the guys you play with. I have 1 group where I'm middle of the pack, and another where I am the only low handicapper. As one of the guys said earlier, there are several groups of guys out there, and most have never seen anyone shoot low. I play a course with a high slope/rating (74.2/130), so a round in the 72-75 range, which is most of my decent days, adjusts my handicap accordingly. But I am NOT the guy that will go to any muni, play from 6200 and beat the rating, which is usually around 68. Most guys think I'll need to shoot 66, but it doesn't work that way. The system is misunderstood, and misinterpreted.
  • ago33ago33 Members Posts: 2,152 ✭✭
    I’m the low handicap at our corporate events. It bothers me because even if I play well, I can’t win because someone with a 28 handicap will have a good day, shoot 20 over where as I would have to shoot -8 to beat them

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  • scottazscottaz ClubWRX Posts: 1,900 ClubWRX
    edited Jun 24, 2018 #24
    I play in a lot of flighted 2 or 3 better ball tourneys (just did this morning) and there's always a few remarks early, usually on the first tee, about carrying the team. I'm not sure why people need to do this but I use it to focus a bit more, knowing I can't take a hole off. I like it.



    What I don't like is when the B player, usually a 7-10 hc, doesn't hold up. That's where I sometimes to see the vanity cappers. The C's and D's tend to help more.
  • NJpatbeeNJpatbee Posts: 1,485 ✭✭
    I have never had to worry about it.
  • Frisco KidFrisco Kid Members Posts: 150 ✭✭
    Frisco Kid wrote:


    Played with a twosome today at a course I stunk up a few years ago...they asked my cap and I said it’s trending at 10.5 they said they were much higher. I proceed to shoot my worst round, probably since I played there. Shot a 98 and I’m sure they thought I was lying about my HC. Funny though, my HC didn’t change after I entered today’s disaster round?




    Index is calculated using the lowest 10 out of your last 20 rounds. That disaster round obviously didn’t get used.



    It’s also why it isn’t “easy” to shoot your handicap. Your index is not your average score. It’s quite a bit lower than the average.




    Thanks for the explanation, I never knew that and it clears up a lot.
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  • Bonneville85308Bonneville85308 Members Posts: 1,629 ✭✭
    A club I used to belong to didn't have very many low single digit players (and I wasn't one of them). For many years I'd play in the annual "opening day" ABCD random pairing scramble tournament in the spring. I'd always end up as an "A" player even when my handicap was 11-12. Since I didn't take many trips to warmer climates during winter at that time in my life, my game was always really rusty around the time of that tournament, I'd play like ****, and always felt like I was letting everyone down vs. their expectations of the "A" player in the group. I stopped playing in the tournament, even though it's just a silly scramble, just because I didn't want to be seen as the better player of the group.



    Whenever someone in a random public course pairing asks me what my handicap is, I usually say "around 10" even though it's 6-7 right now. I do agree with the other posters that many of those not familiar with the handicap system seem to think a 10 handicap, for example, is likely to shoot around 10 over par every time, whereas that is actually supposed to be his potential and not a typical score. My GHIN card has a 1-over par score on a higher than average rating/slope pulling down my index calculation right now, but that's like a once every five year occurrence for me to shoot that kind of score.
  • FLOGMRFLOGMR Members Posts: 1,265 ✭✭
    Another "Low cap" incident about 10 years ago......my wife and I were on holidays in Thailand and I went to a lovely course that I knew well. I was at the desk in the shop talking to the golf pro (Who I knew) and was discussing getting out as a single when I heard a woman behind me say "My husband and I would like to get out too...what is your handicap?" I replied that I was a 1 to which she said "I don't think we want to play with you....all you low 'cap guys are so serious" They were a very British middle aged couple. I told them I was on holidays and was just looking for a fun round. "OK...let's play together"

    I shot 1 under and they both shot, what they said were, very good rounds for them and we all had a great time....my wife took pictures and we all got together for dinner later in the evening. They later said they had a great time and apologized for their handicap comment but at their club in the UK all the low caps were full of themselves and serious about every part of the game all the time.

    We played again later in the week and have become long distance friends over the years.
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    Has my boss the other day asked if I golfed, I said “yeah, a fair bit”. He asked if I was any good, the dreaded question.



    I’ve found the best answer is just saying that I can keep pace and not slow the group down. That’s the most important thing about a good day on the course with someone. I don’t care if you shoot 90 or 68, if you don’t dilly dally or lose balls, you’re a good enough golfer to play with anyone
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  • ljrad1995ljrad1995 Members Posts: 96
    I get this a lot these days, being a +3 at a pretty small club lends itself to these situations. 90% of the time people are fine and a lot of people say they enjoy playing with a low cap cause to them I'm "the tour pro" quality golfer (far from it in reality but they don't know that). Mind you, the other 10% seem to think i should shoot 65 every game somehow, and anything less is a disappointment. Matter of fact just last week, one of our members asked me to play in his group to try and impress a client of his. At the end of the day he said to me "you just didn't have your magic today, its a shame, those guys were keen to see some really good golf". When.i informed him that I'd just had a 67 (-5) and that i was really stoked with how I'd played, he just said yeah i guess and left. Lesson learned, don't expect anything in return for helping out....
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  • The BeavThe Beav Posts: 421 ✭✭
    edited Jun 25, 2018 #31
    My old man always feels the need to announce to the group how great I am and how far I hit it, and it's annoying trying to live up to it because a) I suck at this game and b ) I dont hit the ball very far. He only does it to deflect any pressure off himself since he cant handle playing with strangers.
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