As a higher capper, and urethane balls

Tanner25Tanner25 Members Posts: 6,218 ✭✭
edited Jun 30, 2018 in Golf Balls #1
After all of the urethane hype here and seeing the magic in action, I was bitten by the urethane bug. But, after several months, and being a high capper I have not seen any benefit. For every ball that bites near the hole, I have the same amount of shots, where the ball checks up too early.



I find the 3 piece surlyn balls are best, like Gamersoft or Wilson Spin. They have some bite and some roll out.
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  • Mikey5eMikey5e Members Posts: 728 ✭✭
    Okay, it sounds like a three piece ionomer ball is for you. In that level or category of golf balls there are many options.
  • MukkyMukky Members Posts: 363 ✭✭
    Your swing is inconsistent, hence you are a high handicap. Inconsistent swings end up with inconsistent results. I'm not sure what the surprise is here
  • Tanner25Tanner25 Members Posts: 6,218 ✭✭
    Mikey5e wrote:


    Okay, it sounds like a three piece ionomer ball is for you. In that level or category of golf balls there are many options.




    Cool, I will look out for ionomer balls. I was thinking something like the new Cut 3 piece matte balls could be interesting.
  • Mikey5eMikey5e Members Posts: 728 ✭✭
    Bridgestone e6 soft is a great ball. I confess, I go with TF D2+ Distance when I want a ball to go long and straight.
  • AllwaysinthewoodsAllwaysinthewoods Members Posts: 3
    I have a higher handicap and I play exclusively with urethane balls. I like the feel, and I can usually find some pretty affordable options. I am not the most consistent, but it is still nice when you see that well struck shot bounce and stop.
  • bigmoneypbigmoneyp MichiganMembers Posts: 3,287 ✭✭
    There is nothing wrong with playing what suits your game best. I also skip the urethane balls because I generally am a bump and run player. I hit the ball high and don't have any issues holding greens with suryln balls. Urethane also are generally more expensive and less durable. There is no right answer. Right now my favorite balls are Snell Get Sum, Cut White, Srixon Q-Star and TF Gamer.
  • Tanner25Tanner25 Members Posts: 6,218 ✭✭
    Mikey5e wrote:


    Bridgestone e6 soft is a great ball. I confess, I go with TF D2+ Distance when I want a ball to go long and straight.
    Mikey5e wrote:


    Bridgestone e6 soft is a great ball. I confess, I go with TF D2+ Distance when I want a ball to go long and straight.




    e6soft in yellow sounds like a good idea, 3 piece surlyn
  • JustsomeguyJustsomeguy Members Posts: 996 ✭✭
    TF Gamer Tour is urethane, but not crazy thick and is cheap. So it has that feel, but really won't kill you with spin.
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  • Mikey5eMikey5e Members Posts: 728 ✭✭
    Strange, but as much as I play in different venues I rarely see anybody spin the ball?
  • gpleonardgpleonard New Smyrna Beach, FloridaMembers Posts: 1,254 ✭✭
    Agree with the Bridgestone E6 Soft. Play it regularly and shoot low to mid 80's. When the bug hits me to play a premium ball I play the Bridgestone Tour B RX.
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  • Tanner25Tanner25 Members Posts: 6,218 ✭✭
    gpleonard wrote:


    Agree with the Bridgestone E6 Soft. Play it regularly and shoot low to mid 80's. When the bug hits me to play a premium ball I play the Bridgestone Tour B RX.




    Thanks, gpleonard. How's the green side spin on the E6 soft? Is it somewhere inbetween a distance ball and urethane?
  • gpleonardgpleonard New Smyrna Beach, FloridaMembers Posts: 1,254 ✭✭
    Tanner25 wrote:

    gpleonard wrote:


    Agree with the Bridgestone E6 Soft. Play it regularly and shoot low to mid 80's. When the bug hits me to play a premium ball I play the Bridgestone Tour B RX.




    Thanks, gpleonard. How's the green side spin on the E6 soft? Is it somewhere inbetween a distance ball and urethane?
    You will not get high spin but the ball is better than most. I have no real issues with it. Good distance and will hold the green on well struck shots. Plus with the 2 for 50 deal it is hard to pass up.
    Gil Leonard
  • Twism86Twism86 Members Posts: 397 ✭✭
    edited Jul 5, 2018 #14
    As a high capper I know hitting ProVs and Chrome Softs are not the best, as I lose a few too many and they are not doing me any good on miss hit shots or when they bounce off the cart path.



    My counter argument is that when I do hit my shots well, these balls perform excellent as they should! I would rather lose a few premium balls but also have them for those shots you hit pure, rather than have a mediocre ball that doesnt perform as well. That lost ball doesnt matter if it $45 a dozen or $20. That ball that sticks close to the pin and gives a chance at birdie does, I want to use that ball regardless of my skill because that ball will drop my score!



    Ill ask, and I know I know theres a thread for this but.... How about the Project (a)? Urethane for a cheap price but is the performance there?
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  • iKOH423iKOH423 Members Posts: 105 ✭✭
    I really want to move into this category of golf ball and really like the spin green side. I unfortunately lose the vast majority of my shots off the tee and am very hesitant to move into this range. I have tried the QSTs because of their lower price point and don't really like them as most do. They feel a bit too hard and I don't jive well with that feeling. I would rather go with the Bridgestone RX or Duo Urethane which I have tested and loved, just tired of losing them off the tee.
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  • brew4eaglebrew4eagle VAMembers Posts: 2,725 ✭✭
    Mikey5e wrote:


    Strange, but as much as I play in different venues I rarely see anybody spin the ball?




    Do you mean spin the ball back? I don't spin the ball back very often at all, but I still 'spin' the ball and find that a urethane tour ball spins more and thus doesn't run out as far as non-urethane balls. This provides better control around the greens for my game.
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  • Tanner25Tanner25 Members Posts: 6,218 ✭✭
    gpleonard wrote:

    Tanner25 wrote:

    gpleonard wrote:


    Agree with the Bridgestone E6 Soft. Play it regularly and shoot low to mid 80's. When the bug hits me to play a premium ball I play the Bridgestone Tour B RX.




    Thanks, gpleonard. How's the green side spin on the E6 soft? Is it somewhere inbetween a distance ball and urethane?
    You will not get high spin but the ball is better than most. I have no real issues with it. Good distance and will hold the green on well struck shots. Plus with the 2 for 50 deal it is hard to pass up.




    thx
  • Tanner25Tanner25 Members Posts: 6,218 ✭✭
    Twism86 wrote:


    As a high capper I know hitting ProVs and Chrome Softs are not the best, as I lose a few too many and they are not doing me any good on miss hit shots or when they bounce off the cart path.



    My counter argument is that when I do hit my shots well, these balls perform excellent as they should! I would rather lose a few premium balls but also have them for those shots you hit pure, rather than have a mediocre ball that doesnt perform as well. That lost ball doesnt matter if it $45 a dozen or $20. That ball that sticks close to the pin and gives a chance at birdie does, I want to use that ball regardless of my skill because that ball will drop my score!



    Ill ask, and I know I know theres a thread for this but.... How about the Project (a)? Urethane for a cheap price but is the performance there?




    Project A prior gen is a good value. The ball does stop on the green.
  • citizenforecitizenfore Members Posts: 323 ✭✭
    I’ll often by older generation urethane balls for cheap when I get the itch, but for the most part I play Bridgestone e6 or 7’s, top flite gamers and gamer tours (urethane as mentioned earlier) and D2 feels, Wilson duo’s or 50’s, slazenger Money Balls. I get along better with the distance and budget balls due to not having as much time to work on the finer points of my game right now until the kids get older. Plus when I was learning the game when I was younger I was taught more bump and run around the green, so I’ve always liked a little roll out.
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  • cane700cane700 Members Posts: 2,016 ✭✭
    Until you can keep a ball in play, have a reasonably decent short game and/or you are attacking flags a urethane ball will not give much benefit. I wasted a lot of money playing expensive balls as a high handicap. Control your driver and dial in your wedges then urethane balls become worth it. Feel should be an afterthought IMO. Just my humble opinion.
  • BeerPerHoleBeerPerHole Members Posts: 1,139 ✭✭
    Yeah...there is this (most) massive market of the bogey golfer. Frankly...the Project S is fantastic. I'm messing with the Q Star soon and have a couple boxes of Snell Get Sum on my desk to work through. My lowest scores (better than bogey golf) have been with the Get Sum. Go figure. Spin isn't a problem for me. It's just inconsistency.
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  • TsarBombaTsarBomba Members Posts: 698
    AVX. For the guys who really, really want to play the Pro V, but probably should not. But hey it's still a Titleist.
  • caniac6caniac6 Members Posts: 2,717 ✭✭
    I usually play Bridgestone RX, but the Project A is a good ball, and the Costco 3 piece is pretty good,too. I would think that what ever ball gives you the most control around the green would be a good choice to help lower your handicap,
  • tsecortsecor Loading........ Members Posts: 4,136 ✭✭
    project a balloons too much....the 2018 version is not = to all the hype you see.
  • john_gjohn_g Members Posts: 33 ✭✭
    Unless a golfer is willing to spend time practicing their short game, they are probably better off playing a Surlyn (ionomer) ball. They are more consistent, in that they will only hit and release; hence, that's the only shot you need to be familiar with. With a urethane ball; in order to put some check on the ball you need to hit it crisply. If you don't, then the ball will run out like a Surlyn ball. Unless you practice, you'll find that you'll occasionally hit it crisp and have it check when you don't want it to, leaving you well short of the hole, or hit it a bit "off" and have it run past the hole when you want it to check up.



    And yes, the e6 is a very good ball for amateurs looking for a non-urethane ball.
  • North ButteNorth Butte Members Posts: 9,912 ✭✭
    Or you be a sensible high handicapper and not trying to hit crisp low spinners in the first place!



    But the reason I only use Urethane balls is to keep well struck iron shots from bouncing over a rock-hard Bermuda green. With a bunker in front, a green that’s only 20 yards deep (with severe trouble over the green), standing on the 150 marker and hitting 6-iron if you give me a Surlyn ball I have no shot. It’s either lay up or play out to the left or right side of the green with a 7-iron to avoid the bunker.



    Give me a Urethane ball and that 6-iron lands in the middle of the green, rolls out 10-20 feet and stops.
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  • Bobb3rdownBobb3rdown Bothell, WAMembers Posts: 556 ✭✭
    Went urethane this year and wont turn back. I'm a 13hcp at the moment. Greenside spin has helped me massively.
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  • propmanpropman Members Posts: 1,725 ✭✭
    I'm a 14 capper. Like to bump/run wedge shots. I never see a difference in my scores based on what ball I play. Differences in my scores are based on how well/badly I'm hitting/putting the ball. Sorry if I am sounding like Captain Obvious here.



    I can't help but think many mid/high cappers are too concerned about what ball they play.



    When I do purchase balls, I look to get reasonably priced balls like the duo, e6, supersoft, qst. Often times I get AAAAA recycled balls. In fact, I think buying AAAAA is an excellent way to test different balls (if you think balls matter).
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  • BMCBMC Members Posts: 3,558 ✭✭
    The most important decision is to play the same ball all the time to develop consistency.



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  • North ButteNorth Butte Members Posts: 9,912 ✭✭
    BMC wrote:


    The most important decision is to play the same ball all the time to develop consistency.



    I play the Titleist Tour Soft.




    Do you find it scuffs up quicker than, say, a NXT or a ProV1. I found a like-new one and played it for several holes and it already had a couple of (very slight) marks on it. I wonder if they are upping the spin by using a very, very soft cover.
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  • adam667220adam667220 Members Posts: 861 ✭✭
    edited Jul 9, 2018 #31
    propman wrote:
    I'm a 14 capper. Like to bump/run wedge shots. I never see a difference in my scores based on what ball I play. Differences in my scores are based on how well/badly I'm hitting/putting the ball. Sorry if I am sounding like Captain Obvious here.



    I can't help but think many mid/high cappers are too concerned about what ball they play.



    When I do purchase balls, I look to get reasonably priced balls like the duo, e6, supersoft, qst. Often times I get AAAAA recycled balls. In fact, I think buying AAAAA is an excellent way to test different balls (if you think balls matter).


    Agreed. I'm a 6-8 cap and still play better golf with a 2 piece Top Flite than any 3 or 4 piece urethane. I've tried and every time I buy fancy new balls my scores go up. I lose more strokes tee to green with them than I gain in the couple instances I need more spin.



    I understand certain green or weather conditions requiring a ball with more spin but generally speaking, it's probably not helping you as much as you hope it does. If you're a high enough capper you can't consistently execute your shots anyway, a high performance ball is just putting that much more pressure on you.



    I prefer to enjoy my rounds. lol
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